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Kineth 09/22/17 1:17:20 PM #1:	Is the No Tolerance approach to reprimanding people the best option? Yes, law and order breaks down if there's no absolute consistency. Not in every single instance, but for the most part yes. It's no better or worse than alternative approaches. I don't give a shit because why would I ever get reprimanded? Only rarely is it the best course of action. There shouldn't be absolute/extremist punishment protocol. Because people get undeserved punishment, e.g. suspension because someone started a fight with you, it's not worth it. Absolutely the worst option. It usually ignores realistic inputs because the focus is so narrow. View Results Maybe I put too many options, but whatever. Also, I'd like to know to what your political inclinations are as well. This could prove me wrong (though this likely isn't the best polling pool), but I'd suspect that those with more social conservative political beliefs generally support No Tolerance policies more than centrists or social liberals. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:887084534] in What do yo... [t:75802650]...</cite> <quote> Is the No Tolerance approach to reprimanding people the best option? Yes, law and order breaks down if there's no absolute consistency. Not in every single instance, but for the most part yes. It's no better or worse than alternative approaches. I don't give a shit because why would I ever get reprimanded? Only rarely is it the best course of action. There shouldn't be absolute/extremist punishment protocol. Because people get undeserved punishment, e.g. suspension because someone started a fight with you, it's not worth it. Absolutely the worst option. It usually ignores realistic inputs because the focus is so narrow. View Results Maybe I put too many options, but whatever. Also, I'd like to know to what your political inclinations are as well. This could prove me wrong (though this likely isn't the best polling pool), but I'd suspect that those with more social conservative political beliefs generally support No Tolerance policies more than centrists or social liberals.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 09/22/17 1:18:14 PM #2:	they are wrong because they often end up doing more harm than good and punishing people who didn't really do anything bad <cite>Zikten posted [p:887084587] in What do yo... [t:75802650]...</cite> <quote>they are wrong because they often end up doing more harm than good and punishing people who didn't really do anything bad</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 09/22/17 1:18:20 PM #3:	libertarian/neoliberal I chose the second to last option --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:887084592] in What do yo... [t:75802650]...</cite> <quote>libertarian/neoliberal I chose the second to last option</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 09/22/17 1:19:09 PM #4:	I don't like absolute rules. everything should have caveats --- Hey what's going on in this thread http://i.imgur.com/6fpKRW8.gif http://i.imgur.com/RNZi0gk.gif <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:887084625] in What do yo... [t:75802650]...</cite> <quote>I don't like absolute rules. everything should have caveats</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 09/22/17 1:21:12 PM #5:	Zero tolerance policies tend to have mission creep that gives you ridiculous outcomes like children getting suspended from school for eating a poptart into the shape of a gun. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:887084741] in What do yo... [t:75802650]...</cite> <quote>Zero tolerance policies tend to have mission creep that gives you ridiculous outcomes like children getting suspended from school for eating a poptart into the shape of a gun.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 09/22/17 1:26:52 PM #6:	ThePrinceFish posted... Zero tolerance policies tend to have mission creep that gives you ridiculous outcomes like children getting suspended from school for eating a poptart into the shape of a gun. Right? I likely would have been suspended for a candle I made in grade school that looked like a cartoon bomb. Low effort, obviously, since all I did was mold the wax into a ball, but "omgggg it's a bombbbbb". That and making hand guns (not handguns) on the playground. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:887085104] in What do yo... [t:75802650]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote>Zero tolerance policies tend to have mission creep that gives you ridiculous outcomes like children getting suspended from school for eating a poptart into the shape of a gun.</quote> Right? I likely would have been suspended for a candle I made in grade school that looked like a cartoon bomb. Low effort, obviously, since all I did was mold the wax into a ball, but "omgggg it's a bombbbbb". That and making hand guns (not handguns) on the playground.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CircleOfManias 09/22/17 1:28:42 PM #7:	A nearly perfect inverse bell curve. Neat. --- Sick liaisons raise this monumental mark The sun sets forever over Blackwater Park <cite>CircleOfManias posted [p:887085202] in What do yo... [t:75802650]...</cite> <quote>A nearly perfect inverse bell curve. Neat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 09/22/17 1:30:54 PM #8:	Balrog0 posted... libertarian/neoliberal I chose the second to last option Also thanks to @Balrog0 for being the only one to read my post and answer the follow up question. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:887085332] in What do yo... [t:75802650]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>libertarian/neoliberal I chose the second to last option</quote> Also thanks to @Balrog0 for being the only one to read my post and answer the follow up question.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Squidkids 09/22/17 1:31:22 PM #9:	Not in every single instance, but for the most part yes. Don't make a list of who uses what weapons for games in school. I got sent to the principal's office who said "we can't make exceptions for your or a gang banger... so yeah they can be really BS --- Be a team player, guard those super jump rings. See a team member inking a wall to swim up on? ink with them. Ink your foes into ash. http://tinyurl.com/z7hbzrr <cite>Squidkids posted [p:887085359] in What do yo... [t:75802650]...</cite> <quote>Not in every single instance, but for the most part yes. Don't make a list of who uses what weapons for games in school. I got sent to the principal's office who said "we can't make exceptions for your or a gang banger... so yeah they can be really BS</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Go_Totodile 09/22/17 1:32:04 PM #10:	They're fucking stupid. You can't fucking do things like that in absolutes. --- https://i.imgur.com/lBceXcB.png <cite>Go_Totodile posted [p:887085403] in What do yo... [t:75802650]...</cite> <quote>They're fucking stupid. You can't fucking do things like that in absolutes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 09/22/17 1:33:02 PM #11:	Judge everything on a case by case basis. If there's a clear instigator, don't punish the other person for standing up for themselves. --- #FeelTheBernieSanders <cite>lilORANG posted [p:887085456] in What do yo... [t:75802650]...</cite> <quote>Judge everything on a case by case basis. If there's a clear instigator, don't punish the other person for standing up for themselves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chama 09/22/17 1:36:03 PM #12:	Last option. I tend to lean toward conservative, on the Canadian spectrum. I don't know what your equivalent is. --- But the 9/11 buildings got destroyed in the 9/11 thing - xyphilia <cite>Chama posted [p:887085633] in What do yo... [t:75802650]...</cite> <quote>Last option. I tend to lean toward conservative, on the Canadian spectrum. I don't know what your equivalent is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Squidkids 09/22/17 1:36:32 PM #13:	lilORANG posted... Judge everything on a case by case basis. If there's a clear instigator, don't punish the other person for standing up for themselves. Even my friends dad was like "Oh it is from that game" Me thinking : I had no idea a splatterscope could be confused with a real gun name. luckily after some talking we where left off with a warning, guess they did not want to be a media headline --- Be a team player, guard those super jump rings. See a team member inking a wall to swim up on? ink with them. Ink your foes into ash. http://tinyurl.com/z7hbzrr <cite>Squidkids posted [p:887085660] in What do yo... [t:75802650]...</cite> <quote><cite>lilORANG posted...</cite> <quote>Judge everything on a case by case basis. If there's a clear instigator, don't punish the other person for standing up for themselves.</quote> Even my friends dad was like "Oh it is from that game" Me thinking : I had no idea a splatterscope could be confused with a real gun name. luckily after some talking we where left off with a warning, guess they did not want to be a media headline</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaname_Madoka 09/22/17 1:36:37 PM #14:	Second last option Canadian centrist --- Drawn for me by \| Popcorn_Fairy: https://i.imgtc.com/cvSNxRT.jpg \| Volkswagen_Bros: http://i.imgur.com/86XOVXb.jpg \| ShinobiNinjaX: https://imgur.com/bPb5vEV <cite>Kaname_Madoka posted [p:887085665] in What do yo... [t:75802650]...</cite> <quote>Second last option Canadian centrist</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 09/22/17 4:17:18 PM #15:	bump --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:887094902] in What do yo... [t:75802650]...</cite> <quote>bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 09/22/17 4:34:01 PM #16:	last option far left --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:887095830] in What do yo... [t:75802650]...</cite> <quote>last option far left</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 09/23/17 4:31:28 PM #17:	bump --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:887152820] in What do yo... [t:75802650]...</cite> <quote>bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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