Poll of the Day > Cop tackles A word that is banned boy to the ground thinking he was on drugs

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OmegaTomHank
09/22/17 11:20:41 PM
#102:


Baseline level cops not having guns is probably the biggest reason.

Amazing how much less of an asshole people will be when they don't feel all powerful
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Smarkil
09/22/17 11:34:51 PM
#103:


Terry Stop

A "Terry Stop" is a stop of a person by law enforcement officers based upon "reasonable suspicion" that a person may have been engaged in criminal activity, whereas an arrest requires "probable cause" that a suspect committed a criminal offense. The name comes from the standards established in a 1968 case, Terry v. Ohio.

The issue in the case was whether police should be able to detain a person and subject him to a limited search for weapons without probable cause for arrest. The Court held that police may conduct a limited search of a person for weapons that could endanger the officer or those nearby, even in the absence of probable cause for arrest and any weapons seized may be introduced in evidence.

When a police officer observes unusual conduct which leads him or her to reasonably suspect criminal activity may be occurring and that the persons with whom he is dealing may be armed and presently dangerous, the officer might approach and briefly detain the subjects for the purpose of conducting a limited investigation. The officer must identify himself or herself as a police officer and may make reasonable inquiries. If after initial investigation the officer still has a reasonable fear for the safety of himself and others, the officer may conduct a carefully limited search of the outer clothing in an attempt to discover weapons that might be used to assault him or her.


Jesus christ you people. Why do you ignore that this is what this was?
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Yellow
09/23/17 2:26:15 AM
#104:


What's your point? If it's in the rules then it's twice as shitty.
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Smarkil
09/23/17 4:00:35 AM
#105:


Yellow posted...
What's your point? If it's in the rules then it's twice as shitty.


Because you guys are shitting on the cop when he was doing exactly what he was supposed to and legally allowed to do.

Fight the law if you want, but at least fight the right one.
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Yellow
09/23/17 4:35:33 AM
#106:


Yeah, I'm legally allowed to be a dick too.

smh at thinking he was supposed to do that for legal reasons.

I think I understand that the US just has massive Stockholm Syndrome when it comes to everyone and everything in power.
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SunWuKung420
09/23/17 8:48:50 AM
#107:


Smarkil posted...
Yellow posted...
What's your point? If it's in the rules then it's twice as shitty.


Because you guys are shitting on the cop when he was doing exactly what he was supposed to and legally allowed to do.

Fight the law if you want, but at least fight the right one.


The kid was walking around having fun, not acting like a suspect. I'm not surprised you're taking the cops side since you're insensitive as fuck.
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OmegaTomHank
09/23/17 12:52:19 PM
#108:


Yes I'm sure everyone who watched the video would reasonably suspect this meek and afraid child was armed and dangerous.


Good point Gamefaqs user Smarkill
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OmegaTomHank
09/23/17 12:54:23 PM
#109:


Also the police officer can clearly stated he assumed the suspect was using drugs, not that he was armed and/or dangerous
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OmegaTomHank
09/23/17 1:00:40 PM
#110:


Also lmao at pointing what police are "allowed" to do.


US pigs routinely murder people and get slaps on the wrists.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Akai_Gurley

This hog murdered an innocent black man in his own housing complex just because he was spooky.

Oh no, big scary black man must fire gun!

Didn't see a day in jail
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Jen0125
09/23/17 1:05:13 PM
#111:


Dikitain posted...
Zikten posted...
Dikitain posted...
Zikten posted...
My_Unit posted...
How is the cop supposed to know hes autistic?

that doesn't excuse anything.


Yes it is, would people be this outraged at the cop if the kid had a gun and was intent on shooting up the playground? I wouldn't blame the kid or the cop for anything, I would blame the parents for letting their obviously autistic kid go out alone without supervision.

my biggest issue is about how it ended. the whole thing was fucked up, but he could have at least apologized when he found out the truth. he didn't. and he didn't even let the kid go for minutes still. the very moment he learned about the autism he should have let the kid go and said "I am sooooo sorry, kid."

Why would he be sorry? He was doing the job he was trained to do. That is why the parents should have been there, they could have told the officer that the kid has autism and none of this would have happened in the first place.


if he was supervised the police officer would never have stopped them in the first place. he wouldn't have thought the kid was on drugs if he was with his two parents. he likely would have assumed he was disabled if he was flanked by both his parents walking down the street.
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SkynyrdRocker
09/23/17 1:36:17 PM
#112:


I thought you wanted to use a racial slur in your title and that was why you couldn't use it...
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Smarkil
09/23/17 2:00:27 PM
#113:


SunWuKung420 posted...
The kid was walking around having fun, not acting like a suspect. I'm not surprised you're taking the cops side since you're insensitive as fuck.


I'm siding with the cop because I happen know the law. My initial thought when I came into the thread was to assume the cop was in the wrong, because they frequently are. If you want a much more egregious situation with autism, how about latching on to this one?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-cop-charged-manslaughter-shooting-autistic-man-s-unarmed-therapist-n745716

Also, maybe the hypocrite fat shamer shouldn't come in calling people insensitive. I'm a fucking libertarian. I want less police involvement at all, but I happen to be aware of how things ACTUALLY work.

OmegaTomHank posted...
Also the police officer can clearly stated he assumed the suspect was using drugs, not that he was armed and/or dangerous


I'm genuinely unsure if you have a problem with being able to read because it says it clearly in the definition.

When a police officer observes unusual conduct which leads him or her to reasonably suspect criminal activity may be occurring

I'll try to break this down for you. It allows an officer to essentially do two things. It allows them to stop and question an individual if they have a reasonable suspicion that a crime has been committed. It ALSO allows them to perform a cursory search of an individual AFTER their line of questioning has not been satisfied.

The problem with people like yourself is that you never have any solutions other than "HURR PIGS R MEEN". Let me give you a blueprint for improving the police force. 1. Increase their pay. 2. Require a college degree. 3. Require more stringent training. 4. Have much more strict regulation around the system.

Unfortunately, none of that works without the first one. If you can't pay a dude more than 30 grand a year, you're gonna get a lot of shitheads. Teaching has a similar problem.
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yutterh
09/23/17 2:30:37 PM
#114:


Hahahaha y'all are overreacting lol I read through most of the comments before watching the video. I expected the cop to just tackle him randomly lol he did everything he was supposed to do. He approached in a calm manner, asked what he was doing. The kid got irradict, so the officer got him under control. Once the officer realized the situation he calmly got the kid up, but since the kid waa being irradict he want to make sure the kid wasn't gonna flail on him. The officer handled that situation well in my opinion.
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Zikten
09/23/17 4:24:49 PM
#115:


yutterh posted...
The kid got irradict, so the officer got him under control.

the kid was more out of control after the cop assaulted him. all the kid was take a few steps back to get some breathing room and the cop touched him. THAT is when the kid freaked out. I understand what he was doing because I myself have autism and maybe don't have the same level he does, but I understand not liking to be so close to a stranger who is acting aggressive.
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yutterh
09/23/17 5:44:44 PM
#116:


Zikten posted...
yutterh posted...
The kid got irradict, so the officer got him under control.

the kid was more out of control after the cop assaulted him. all the kid was take a few steps back to get some breathing room and the cop touched him. THAT is when the kid freaked out. I understand what he was doing because I myself have autism and maybe don't have the same level he does, but I understand not liking to be so close to a stranger who is acting aggressive.


The cop barely even grabbed him. He was not assaulted. The cop got control of him and made sure he wasn't hurting him too much. He asked if he could breath and waa pretty sincere in asking him. He didn't get overly aggressive at all. He was pretty calm through the whole thing.
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Zikten
09/23/17 5:46:20 PM
#117:


that's from the point of view of a normal person. to someone with autism, what the cop did was a nightmare to the kid. that's why he starts screaming when the cop touches him. he was just backing up. he was not running away. the cop was out of line. I might have done the same thing when I was a kid.
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Jen0125
09/23/17 5:53:15 PM
#118:


Zikten posted...
that's from the point of view of a normal person. to someone with autism, what the cop did was a nightmare to the kid. that's why he starts screaming when the cop touches him. he was just backing up. he was not running away. the cop was out of line. I might have done the same thing when I was a kid.


But no one knows the kid had autism until the lady shows up. We can't walk around assuming everyone is autistic.
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Zikten
09/23/17 5:56:26 PM
#119:


you also can't walk around assuming everyone is on drugs though
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Jen0125
09/23/17 6:02:36 PM
#120:


He obviously doesn't. He assumed a kid looking like he was tweaking out in public may have been on drugs.
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yutterh
09/23/17 6:04:57 PM
#121:


Zikten posted...
you also can't walk around assuming everyone is on drugs though


The cop had no idea what was going on and waa just trying to figure it out. I understand the kid was terrified. But the cop in no way handled that situation poorly. The kid flipping out was a sign he may endanger others or himself. He was gonna run off and probably cross the street or go where ever his mom is without paying attention to those around him. What if the kid ran off and got hit by a car? At that point the best option was to restrain him.
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