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1NfamousACE_2 09/22/17 8:10:56 PM #1:	Do the football players get more? Does the revenue from the football program pay for the golf players? Should all athletes get the same despite not bringing in the same amount? Should starting players get more than bench players? Has anyone ever thought about these questions other than saying student-athletes should be getting paid? --- #Free OJ Simpson <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:887107689] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote>Do the football players get more? Does the revenue from the football program pay for the golf players? Should all athletes get the same despite not bringing in the same amount? Should starting players get more than bench players? Has anyone ever thought about these questions other than saying student-athletes should be getting paid?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KainWind 09/22/17 8:11:47 PM #2:	The women should be paid equally. --- http://i.imgtc.com/pRZqu18C.gif http://i.imgtc.com/jccgiB1G.gif http://i.imgtc.com/WEkU41Yb.gif http://i.imgtc.com/dBcIyU2x.gif <cite>KainWind posted [p:887107728] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote>The women should be paid equally.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mortimerjames 09/24/17 7:41:24 AM #3:	how about just make whats done under the table legal? big time recruits would get millions and nobodies would get thousands --- Tell me the story about how people used to believe in the Bible - Future kid to their grandparents <cite>mortimerjames posted [p:887186826] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote>how about just make whats done under the table legal? big time recruits would get millions and nobodies would get thousands</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RE_expert44 09/24/17 8:18:08 AM #4:	mortimerjames posted... how about just make whats done under the table legal? big time recruits would get millions and nobodies would get thousands Today Mortimer james --- RESIDENT EVIL COMMUNITY BOARD http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1074-resident-evil-past-present-and-future <cite>RE_expert44 posted [p:887187539] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote><cite>mortimerjames posted...</cite> <quote>how about just make whats done under the table legal? big time recruits would get millions and nobodies would get thousands</quote> Today Mortimer james</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 09/24/17 8:21:02 AM #5:	Let Boosters do it. If the Boosters want to give the football team all of there money so be it. If they want give the girl's horse riding them all of the cash so be it. If the Boosters do it, it is out of the hands of the schools themselves . --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:887187610] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote>Let Boosters do it. If the Boosters want to give the football team all of there money so be it. If they want give the girl's horse riding them all of the cash so be it. If the Boosters do it, it is out of the hands of the schools themselves .</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 09/24/17 8:24:56 AM #6:	Colleges already make these decisions every day about their thousands of other employees. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:887187696] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote>Colleges already make these decisions every day about their thousands of other employees.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Twin3Turbo 09/24/17 8:27:56 AM #7:	Antifar posted... Colleges already make these decisions every day about their thousands of other employees. Also, I'm not really sure where the "you have to pay all athletes the same" comes from. Generally speaking, companies pay people what they feel they are worth. If that makes the swim team jealous of the football players, well too bad. That's literally how the real world works --- https://imgflip.com/gif/di4a4 <cite>Twin3Turbo posted [p:887187768] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Colleges already make these decisions every day about their thousands of other employees.</quote> Also, I'm not really sure where the "you have to pay all athletes the same" comes from. Generally speaking, companies pay people what they feel they are worth. If that makes the swim team jealous of the football players, well too bad. That's literally how the real world works</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs 09/24/17 8:41:57 AM #8:	Football players and male basketball players get more. All the other athletes can get a few bucks here and there. --- http://m.imgur.com/BtD5etN?r https://m.imgur.com/a/jclul http://i.imgtc.com/etNW2apANm.jpg <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:887188111] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote>Football players and male basketball players get more. All the other athletes can get a few bucks here and there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 09/24/17 8:49:02 AM #9:	Twin3Turbo posted... Also, I'm not really sure where the "you have to pay all athletes the same" comes from. Generally speaking, companies pay people what they feel they are worth. If that makes the swim team jealous of the football players, well too bad. That's literally how the real world works Title 9 maybe ? --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:887188292] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote> Also, I'm not really sure where the "you have to pay all athletes the same" comes from. Generally speaking, companies pay people what they feel they are worth. If that makes the swim team jealous of the football players, well too bad. That's literally how the real world works</quote> Title 9 maybe ?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RE_expert44 09/24/17 8:50:33 AM #10:	Twin3Turbo posted... Antifar posted... Colleges already make these decisions every day about their thousands of other employees. Also, I'm not really sure where the "you have to pay all athletes the same" comes from. Generally speaking, companies pay people what they feel they are worth. If that makes the swim team jealous of the football players, well too bad. That's literally how the real world works That and football players are gonna need that money more than swimmers to pay for those expensive doctors later in life, because all those years of head trauma and getting thrown to the ground turned them into a tomato --- RESIDENT EVIL COMMUNITY BOARD http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1074-resident-evil-past-present-and-future <cite>RE_expert44 posted [p:887188324] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Colleges already make these decisions every day about their thousands of other employees.</quote> Also, I'm not really sure where the "you have to pay all athletes the same" comes from. Generally speaking, companies pay people what they feel they are worth. If that makes the swim team jealous of the football players, well too bad. That's literally how the real world works</quote> That and football players are gonna need that money more than swimmers to pay for those expensive doctors later in life, because all those years of head trauma and getting thrown to the ground turned them into a tomato</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prettyprincess 09/24/17 8:51:36 AM #11:	football SAs care less than others wrt getting textbooks --- And in an infinite regress, tell me, why is the pain of birth lighter borne than the pain of death? <cite>prettyprincess posted [p:887188354] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote>football SAs care less than others wrt getting textbooks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 09/24/17 8:55:03 AM #12:	They already do. Not always with money. --- http://backloggery.com/devsbro/sig.gif http://i.imgur.com/kU5vu5N.png Never pepper popcorn <cite>DevsBro posted [p:887188436] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote>They already do. Not always with money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Twin3Turbo 09/24/17 9:17:26 AM #13:	cjsdowg posted... Twin3Turbo posted... Also, I'm not really sure where the "you have to pay all athletes the same" comes from. Generally speaking, companies pay people what they feel they are worth. If that makes the swim team jealous of the football players, well too bad. That's literally how the real world works Title 9 maybe ? You might have to refresh my memory there. --- https://imgflip.com/gif/di4a4 <cite>Twin3Turbo posted [p:887189076] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote><cite>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote> Also, I'm not really sure where the "you have to pay all athletes the same" comes from. Generally speaking, companies pay people what they feel they are worth. If that makes the swim team jealous of the football players, well too bad. That's literally how the real world works</quote> Title 9 maybe ?</quote> You might have to refresh my memory there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 09/24/17 9:20:09 AM #14:	Twin3Turbo posted... cjsdowg posted... Twin3Turbo posted... Also, I'm not really sure where the "you have to pay all athletes the same" comes from. Generally speaking, companies pay people what they feel they are worth. If that makes the swim team jealous of the football players, well too bad. That's literally how the real world works Title 9 maybe ? You might have to refresh my memory there. It covers a lot of things, however one is making sure that woman and guy sports are equal. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:887189131] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote> Also, I'm not really sure where the "you have to pay all athletes the same" comes from. Generally speaking, companies pay people what they feel they are worth. If that makes the swim team jealous of the football players, well too bad. That's literally how the real world works</quote> Title 9 maybe ?</quote> You might have to refresh my memory there.</quote> It covers a lot of things, however one is making sure that woman and guy sports are equal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 09/24/17 9:26:31 AM #15:	Sure, pay them. Then kill scholarships and easy A's for atheletes. College atheletes get paid, just not cash. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:887189297] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote>Sure, pay them. Then kill scholarships and easy A's for atheletes. College atheletes get paid, just not cash.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs 09/24/17 9:30:21 AM #16:	And if they pay the athletes they should take away the scholarships and make those academic only. Why pay these athletes money and then let them go to school for free, live for free and eat for free when people who are actually going to classes and learning have to pay all sorts of money for everything. Wouldn’t make sense. --- http://m.imgur.com/BtD5etN?r https://m.imgur.com/a/jclul http://i.imgtc.com/etNW2apANm.jpg <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:887189410] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote>And if they pay the athletes they should take away the scholarships and make those academic only. Why pay these athletes money and then let them go to school for free, live for free and eat for free when people who are actually going to classes and learning have to pay all sorts of money for everything. Wouldn’t make sense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Twin3Turbo 09/24/17 9:42:53 AM #17:	gatorsPENSbucs posted... And if they pay the athletes they should take away the scholarships and make those academic only. Why pay these athletes money and then let them go to school for free, live for free and eat for free when people who are actually going to classes and learning have to pay all sorts of money for everything. Wouldn’t make sense. Why pay them money AND give perks? Cause no other employer has ever done that before right? --- https://imgflip.com/gif/di4a4 <cite>Twin3Turbo posted [p:887189797] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote>And if they pay the athletes they should take away the scholarships and make those academic only. Why pay these athletes money and then let them go to school for free, live for free and eat for free when people who are actually going to classes and learning have to pay all sorts of money for everything. Wouldn’t make sense.</quote> Why pay them money AND give perks? Cause no other employer has ever done that before right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 09/24/17 12:10:44 PM #18:	Twin3Turbo posted... gatorsPENSbucs posted... And if they pay the athletes they should take away the scholarships and make those academic only. Why pay these athletes money and then let them go to school for free, live for free and eat for free when people who are actually going to classes and learning have to pay all sorts of money for everything. Wouldn’t make sense. Why pay them money AND give perks? Cause no other employer has ever done that before right? Name an employer that houses, feeds, AND pays their employees. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:887195962] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote>And if they pay the athletes they should take away the scholarships and make those academic only. Why pay these athletes money and then let them go to school for free, live for free and eat for free when people who are actually going to classes and learning have to pay all sorts of money for everything. Wouldn’t make sense.</quote> Why pay them money AND give perks? Cause no other employer has ever done that before right?</quote> Name an employer that houses, feeds, AND pays their employees.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mortimerjames 09/24/17 12:36:16 PM #19:	Why should we even have a say on how an employer should compensate a worker? --- Tell me the story about how people used to believe in the Bible - Future kid to their grandparents <cite>mortimerjames posted [p:887197231] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote>Why should we even have a say on how an employer should compensate a worker?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Twin3Turbo 09/24/17 12:38:25 PM #20:	darkjedilink posted... Twin3Turbo posted... gatorsPENSbucs posted... And if they pay the athletes they should take away the scholarships and make those academic only. Why pay these athletes money and then let them go to school for free, live for free and eat for free when people who are actually going to classes and learning have to pay all sorts of money for everything. Wouldn’t make sense. Why pay them money AND give perks? Cause no other employer has ever done that before right? Name an employer that houses, feeds, AND pays their employees. I wasn't aware that perks could only be limited to what YOU want them to be. --- https://imgflip.com/gif/di4a4 <cite>Twin3Turbo posted [p:887197336] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote>And if they pay the athletes they should take away the scholarships and make those academic only. Why pay these athletes money and then let them go to school for free, live for free and eat for free when people who are actually going to classes and learning have to pay all sorts of money for everything. Wouldn’t make sense.</quote> Why pay them money AND give perks? Cause no other employer has ever done that before right?</quote> Name an employer that houses, feeds, AND pays their employees.</quote> I wasn't aware that perks could only be limited to what YOU want them to be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JamaalCharles39 09/24/17 12:54:31 PM #21:	darkjedilink posted... Twin3Turbo posted... gatorsPENSbucs posted... And if they pay the athletes they should take away the scholarships and make those academic only. Why pay these athletes money and then let them go to school for free, live for free and eat for free when people who are actually going to classes and learning have to pay all sorts of money for everything. Wouldn’t make sense. Why pay them money AND give perks? Cause no other employer has ever done that before right? Name an employer that houses, feeds, AND pays their employees. While Im not in favor of paying them If I were a university and had to pay my players Id give them all that so they could be at their best. --- Tony Gonzalez is the best TE ever, nobody is even close to being as great as him. http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/chiefs-celebration-11-12-12.gif <cite>JamaalCharles39 posted [p:887198183] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote>And if they pay the athletes they should take away the scholarships and make those academic only. Why pay these athletes money and then let them go to school for free, live for free and eat for free when people who are actually going to classes and learning have to pay all sorts of money for everything. Wouldn’t make sense.</quote> Why pay them money AND give perks? Cause no other employer has ever done that before right?</quote> Name an employer that houses, feeds, AND pays their employees.</quote> While Im not in favor of paying them If I were a university and had to pay my players Id give them all that so they could be at their best.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 09/24/17 12:56:57 PM #22:	If NCAA athletes got paid, essentially only football, basketball, baseball (in some southern and western schools), hockey (in some northeastern and midwestern schools), and an accompanying number of women's sports for Title IX reasons would remain. Every other non-money sport would be dropped faster than you could possibly imagine. And it'd likely kill all but maybe one or two sports per school at the Division II and III level. --- The poster formerly known as Kakarot181: July 2, 2002 - March 14, 2012. Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:887198306] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote>If NCAA athletes got paid, essentially only football, basketball, baseball (in some southern and western schools), hockey (in some northeastern and midwestern schools), and an accompanying number of women's sports for Title IX reasons would remain. Every other non-money sport would be dropped faster than you could possibly imagine. And it'd likely kill all but maybe one or two sports per school at the Division II and III level.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 09/24/17 1:06:38 PM #23:	Twin3Turbo posted... darkjedilink posted... Twin3Turbo posted... gatorsPENSbucs posted... And if they pay the athletes they should take away the scholarships and make those academic only. Why pay these athletes money and then let them go to school for free, live for free and eat for free when people who are actually going to classes and learning have to pay all sorts of money for everything. Wouldn’t make sense. Why pay them money AND give perks? Cause no other employer has ever done that before right? Name an employer that houses, feeds, AND pays their employees. I wasn't aware that perks could only be limited to what YOU want them to be. Except right now, at this moment, they get housed, fed, and tuition paid. Those are literally the 'perks' it's being argued they shouldn't get if they get a paycheck. What 'perks' do you think they should get, if not that? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:887198816] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote>And if they pay the athletes they should take away the scholarships and make those academic only. Why pay these athletes money and then let them go to school for free, live for free and eat for free when people who are actually going to classes and learning have to pay all sorts of money for everything. Wouldn’t make sense.</quote> Why pay them money AND give perks? Cause no other employer has ever done that before right?</quote> Name an employer that houses, feeds, AND pays their employees.</quote> I wasn't aware that perks could only be limited to what YOU want them to be.</quote> Except right now, at this moment, they get housed, fed, and tuition paid. Those are literally the 'perks' it's being argued they shouldn't get if they get a paycheck. What 'perks' do you think they should get, if not that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mortimerjames 09/24/17 1:33:53 PM #24:	darkjedilink posted... What 'perks' do you think they should get, if not that? Money --- Tell me the story about how people used to believe in the Bible - Future kid to their grandparents <cite>mortimerjames posted [p:887200361] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>What 'perks' do you think they should get, if not that? </quote> Money</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Twin3Turbo 09/24/17 1:44:07 PM #25:	darkjedilink posted... Twin3Turbo posted... darkjedilink posted... Twin3Turbo posted... gatorsPENSbucs posted... And if they pay the athletes they should take away the scholarships and make those academic only. Why pay these athletes money and then let them go to school for free, live for free and eat for free when people who are actually going to classes and learning have to pay all sorts of money for everything. Wouldn’t make sense. Why pay them money AND give perks? Cause no other employer has ever done that before right? Name an employer that houses, feeds, AND pays their employees. I wasn't aware that perks could only be limited to what YOU want them to be. Except right now, at this moment, they get housed, fed, and tuition paid. Those are literally the 'perks' it's being argued they shouldn't get if they get a paycheck. What 'perks' do you think they should get, if not that? Money. And if they really can't figure out a system to pay players, fine but at least take off all the dumb restrictions that players have in regards to receiving money from other sources. What employer do you know that has anywhere near the insane amount of restrictions on how you can make money as the NCAA does? --- https://imgflip.com/gif/di4a4 <cite>Twin3Turbo posted [p:887200919] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote>And if they pay the athletes they should take away the scholarships and make those academic only. Why pay these athletes money and then let them go to school for free, live for free and eat for free when people who are actually going to classes and learning have to pay all sorts of money for everything. Wouldn’t make sense.</quote> Why pay them money AND give perks? Cause no other employer has ever done that before right?</quote> Name an employer that houses, feeds, AND pays their employees.</quote> I wasn't aware that perks could only be limited to what YOU want them to be.</quote> Except right now, at this moment, they get housed, fed, and tuition paid. Those are literally the 'perks' it's being argued they shouldn't get if they get a paycheck. What 'perks' do you think they should get, if not that?</quote> Money. And if they really can't figure out a system to pay players, fine but at least take off all the dumb restrictions that players have in regards to receiving money from other sources. What employer do you know that has anywhere near the insane amount of restrictions on how you can make money as the NCAA does?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 09/24/17 2:53:43 PM #26:	Twin3Turbo posted... darkjedilink posted... Twin3Turbo posted... darkjedilink posted... Twin3Turbo posted... gatorsPENSbucs posted... And if they pay the athletes they should take away the scholarships and make those academic only. Why pay these athletes money and then let them go to school for free, live for free and eat for free when people who are actually going to classes and learning have to pay all sorts of money for everything. Wouldn’t make sense. Why pay them money AND give perks? Cause no other employer has ever done that before right? Name an employer that houses, feeds, AND pays their employees. I wasn't aware that perks could only be limited to what YOU want them to be. Except right now, at this moment, they get housed, fed, and tuition paid. Those are literally the 'perks' it's being argued they shouldn't get if they get a paycheck. What 'perks' do you think they should get, if not that? Money. And if they really can't figure out a system to pay players, fine but at least take off all the dumb restrictions that players have in regards to receiving money from other sources. What employer do you know that has anywhere near the insane amount of restrictions on how you can make money as the NCAA does? You do realize that the gifts clauses are to prevent cheating by throwing games, right? Not to mention THEY ARE BEING PAID WITH FOOD, HOUSING, AND TUITION. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:887204984] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote>And if they pay the athletes they should take away the scholarships and make those academic only. Why pay these athletes money and then let them go to school for free, live for free and eat for free when people who are actually going to classes and learning have to pay all sorts of money for everything. Wouldn’t make sense.</quote> Why pay them money AND give perks? Cause no other employer has ever done that before right?</quote> Name an employer that houses, feeds, AND pays their employees.</quote> I wasn't aware that perks could only be limited to what YOU want them to be.</quote> Except right now, at this moment, they get housed, fed, and tuition paid. Those are literally the 'perks' it's being argued they shouldn't get if they get a paycheck. What 'perks' do you think they should get, if not that?</quote> Money. And if they really can't figure out a system to pay players, fine but at least take off all the dumb restrictions that players have in regards to receiving money from other sources. What employer do you know that has anywhere near the insane amount of restrictions on how you can make money as the NCAA does?</quote> You do realize that the gifts clauses are to prevent cheating by throwing games, right? Not to mention THEY ARE BEING PAID WITH FOOD, HOUSING, AND TUITION.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Twin3Turbo 09/24/17 3:57:46 PM #27:	darkjedilink posted... Twin3Turbo posted... darkjedilink posted... Twin3Turbo posted... darkjedilink posted... Twin3Turbo posted... gatorsPENSbucs posted... And if they pay the athletes they should take away the scholarships and make those academic only. Why pay these athletes money and then let them go to school for free, live for free and eat for free when people who are actually going to classes and learning have to pay all sorts of money for everything. Wouldn’t make sense. Why pay them money AND give perks? Cause no other employer has ever done that before right? Name an employer that houses, feeds, AND pays their employees. I wasn't aware that perks could only be limited to what YOU want them to be. Except right now, at this moment, they get housed, fed, and tuition paid. Those are literally the 'perks' it's being argued they shouldn't get if they get a paycheck. What 'perks' do you think they should get, if not that? Money. And if they really can't figure out a system to pay players, fine but at least take off all the dumb restrictions that players have in regards to receiving money from other sources. What employer do you know that has anywhere near the insane amount of restrictions on how you can make money as the NCAA does? You do realize that the gifts clauses are to prevent cheating by throwing games, right? Not to mention THEY ARE BEING PAID WITH FOOD, HOUSING, AND TUITION. I'm not talking about gifts. I'm talking about being able to make ANY money. They can't even hold a part time job. --- https://imgflip.com/gif/di4a4 <cite>Twin3Turbo posted [p:887208936] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote>And if they pay the athletes they should take away the scholarships and make those academic only. Why pay these athletes money and then let them go to school for free, live for free and eat for free when people who are actually going to classes and learning have to pay all sorts of money for everything. Wouldn’t make sense.</quote> Why pay them money AND give perks? Cause no other employer has ever done that before right?</quote> Name an employer that houses, feeds, AND pays their employees.</quote> I wasn't aware that perks could only be limited to what YOU want them to be.</quote> Except right now, at this moment, they get housed, fed, and tuition paid. Those are literally the 'perks' it's being argued they shouldn't get if they get a paycheck. What 'perks' do you think they should get, if not that?</quote> Money. And if they really can't figure out a system to pay players, fine but at least take off all the dumb restrictions that players have in regards to receiving money from other sources. What employer do you know that has anywhere near the insane amount of restrictions on how you can make money as the NCAA does?</quote> You do realize that the gifts clauses are to prevent cheating by throwing games, right? Not to mention THEY ARE BEING PAID WITH FOOD, HOUSING, AND TUITION.</quote> I'm not talking about gifts. I'm talking about being able to make ANY money. They can't even hold a part time job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 09/24/17 4:33:29 PM #28:	Twin3Turbo posted... I'm not talking about gifts. I'm talking about being able to make ANY money. They can't even hold a part time job. And I'm saying that if we're going to pay them actual money to play football, fine. Just don't expect to dole out free schooling, food, and housing, too. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:887211286] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not talking about gifts. I'm talking about being able to make ANY money. They can't even hold a part time job.</quote> And I'm saying that if we're going to pay them actual money to play football, fine. Just don't expect to dole out free schooling, food, and housing, too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Twin3Turbo 09/24/17 4:45:44 PM #29:	darkjedilink posted... Twin3Turbo posted... I'm not talking about gifts. I'm talking about being able to make ANY money. They can't even hold a part time job. And I'm saying that if we're going to pay them actual money to play football, fine. Just don't expect to dole out free schooling, food, and housing, too. And I'm saying it's a perk like any other job so why not. And that gets away from the point we were just discussing like making money in other legit ways, like a job. That's nots "paying the players". At least not from the school or NCAA. --- https://imgflip.com/gif/di4a4 <cite>Twin3Turbo posted [p:887212096] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not talking about gifts. I'm talking about being able to make ANY money. They can't even hold a part time job.</quote> And I'm saying that if we're going to pay them actual money to play football, fine. Just don't expect to dole out free schooling, food, and housing, too.</quote> And I'm saying it's a perk like any other job so why not. And that gets away from the point we were just discussing like making money in other legit ways, like a job. That's nots "paying the players". At least not from the school or NCAA.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 09/24/17 4:57:29 PM #30:	They already get paid with free tuition, housing, meals, etc. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:887212758] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote>They already get paid with free tuition, housing, meals, etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 09/24/17 5:14:03 PM #31:	Twin3Turbo posted... darkjedilink posted... Twin3Turbo posted... I'm not talking about gifts. I'm talking about being able to make ANY money. They can't even hold a part time job. And I'm saying that if we're going to pay them actual money to play football, fine. Just don't expect to dole out free schooling, food, and housing, too. And I'm saying it's a perk like any other job so why not. And that gets away from the point we were just discussing like making money in other legit ways, like a job. That's nots "paying the players". At least not from the school or NCAA. It isn't a "perk." It's literally what's being offered to get them to play at that school. It is a compensation package, AKA pay. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:887213754] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not talking about gifts. I'm talking about being able to make ANY money. They can't even hold a part time job.</quote> And I'm saying that if we're going to pay them actual money to play football, fine. Just don't expect to dole out free schooling, food, and housing, too.</quote> And I'm saying it's a perk like any other job so why not. And that gets away from the point we were just discussing like making money in other legit ways, like a job. That's nots "paying the players". At least not from the school or NCAA.</quote> It isn't a "perk." It's literally what's being offered to get them to play at that school. It is a compensation package, AKA pay.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Twin3Turbo 09/24/17 5:19:10 PM #32:	darkjedilink posted... Twin3Turbo posted... darkjedilink posted... Twin3Turbo posted... I'm not talking about gifts. I'm talking about being able to make ANY money. They can't even hold a part time job. And I'm saying that if we're going to pay them actual money to play football, fine. Just don't expect to dole out free schooling, food, and housing, too. And I'm saying it's a perk like any other job so why not. And that gets away from the point we were just discussing like making money in other legit ways, like a job. That's nots "paying the players". At least not from the school or NCAA. It isn't a "perk." It's literally what's being offered to get them to play at that school. It is a compensation package, AKA pay. Ok, so what. Money can also be included. And that STILL gets away from the point we were discussing, for the second time. --- https://imgflip.com/gif/di4a4 <cite>Twin3Turbo posted [p:887214064] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not talking about gifts. I'm talking about being able to make ANY money. They can't even hold a part time job.</quote> And I'm saying that if we're going to pay them actual money to play football, fine. Just don't expect to dole out free schooling, food, and housing, too.</quote> And I'm saying it's a perk like any other job so why not. And that gets away from the point we were just discussing like making money in other legit ways, like a job. That's nots "paying the players". At least not from the school or NCAA.</quote> It isn't a "perk." It's literally what's being offered to get them to play at that school. It is a compensation package, AKA pay.</quote> Ok, so what. Money can also be included. And that STILL gets away from the point we were discussing, for the second time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 09/24/17 5:31:19 PM #33:	Twin3Turbo posted... darkjedilink posted... Twin3Turbo posted... darkjedilink posted... Twin3Turbo posted... I'm not talking about gifts. I'm talking about being able to make ANY money. They can't even hold a part time job. And I'm saying that if we're going to pay them actual money to play football, fine. Just don't expect to dole out free schooling, food, and housing, too. And I'm saying it's a perk like any other job so why not. And that gets away from the point we were just discussing like making money in other legit ways, like a job. That's nots "paying the players". At least not from the school or NCAA. It isn't a "perk." It's literally what's being offered to get them to play at that school. It is a compensation package, AKA pay. Ok, so what. Money can also be included. And that STILL gets away from the point we were discussing, for the second time. I already addressed that point - they aren't "gifts." It's quid pro quo. That quid pro quo is literally why it isn't allowed, because it used to be, and lead to people throwing games. And you still haven't actually answered my question - name one place that pays its employees in food, housing, education, AND money. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:887214770] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not talking about gifts. I'm talking about being able to make ANY money. They can't even hold a part time job.</quote> And I'm saying that if we're going to pay them actual money to play football, fine. Just don't expect to dole out free schooling, food, and housing, too.</quote> And I'm saying it's a perk like any other job so why not. And that gets away from the point we were just discussing like making money in other legit ways, like a job. That's nots "paying the players". At least not from the school or NCAA.</quote> It isn't a "perk." It's literally what's being offered to get them to play at that school. It is a compensation package, AKA pay.</quote> Ok, so what. Money can also be included. And that STILL gets away from the point we were discussing, for the second time.</quote> I already addressed that point - they aren't "gifts." It's quid pro quo. That quid pro quo is literally why it isn't allowed, because it used to be, and lead to people throwing games. And you still haven't actually answered my question - name one place that pays its employees in food, housing, education, AND money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Twin3Turbo 09/24/17 7:55:15 PM #34:	darkjedilink posted... I already addressed that point - they aren't "gifts." It's quid pro quo. That quid pro quo is literally why it isn't allowed, because it used to be, and lead to people throwing games. And you still haven't actually answered my question - name one place that pays its employees in food, housing, education, AND money. Dude, you literally didn't address my point. Here let me ask it a different way. Why aren't NCAA athletes allowed to make money in any other way. They literally can't have a job at a grocery store. They can't sign with Nike. They can't do anything for money. How will having a job a a grocery store affect competitive balance. I'll help you out. It doesn't. In regards to your second question, a couple of things. To answer it directly, plenty. For example, a coworker of mine has a husband works in some sort of IT field. He is out of town in Denver very often, for multiple weeks in a row for many weeks in the year, so much so that him and his co-workers that travel with him have an apartment that they share. Guess who pays for his expenses, including housing and food out there? I'll help you out, not him. On a broader note, who the hell are we to limit what they can receive as payment or perks? That's about as un-American as it gets. --- https://imgflip.com/gif/di4a4 <cite>Twin3Turbo posted [p:887222852] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>I already addressed that point - they aren't "gifts." It's quid pro quo. That quid pro quo is literally why it isn't allowed, because it used to be, and lead to people throwing games. And you still haven't actually answered my question - name one place that pays its employees in food, housing, education, AND money.</quote> Dude, you literally didn't address my point. Here let me ask it a different way. Why aren't NCAA athletes allowed to make money in any other way. They literally can't have a job at a grocery store. They can't sign with Nike. They can't do anything for money. How will having a job a a grocery store affect competitive balance. I'll help you out. It doesn't. In regards to your second question, a couple of things. To answer it directly, plenty. For example, a coworker of mine has a husband works in some sort of IT field. He is out of town in Denver very often, for multiple weeks in a row for many weeks in the year, so much so that him and his co-workers that travel with him have an apartment that they share. Guess who pays for his expenses, including housing and food out there? I'll help you out, not him. On a broader note, who the hell are we to limit what they can receive as payment or perks? That's about as un-American as it gets.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 09/24/17 8:03:20 PM #35:	They get housing, food, etc because preparation for games at that level is a job, takes all their mental and physical energy, and they cannot get other jobs because of the rules and the time commitment for the games. Without the non-cash payments, there's no way they could even be there without the payments. But that's still hideously under-compensating a lot of players. --- http://i.imgur.com/0Bi86cp.gif <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:887223301] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote>They get housing, food, etc because preparation for games at that level is a job, takes all their mental and physical energy, and they cannot get other jobs because of the rules and the time commitment for the games. Without the non-cash payments, there's no way they could even be there without the payments. But that's still hideously under-compensating a lot of players.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 09/24/17 8:05:16 PM #36:	Twin3Turbo posted... darkjedilink posted... I already addressed that point - they aren't "gifts." It's quid pro quo. That quid pro quo is literally why it isn't allowed, because it used to be, and lead to people throwing games. And you still haven't actually answered my question - name one place that pays its employees in food, housing, education, AND money. Dude, you literally didn't address my point. Here let me ask it a different way. Why aren't NCAA athletes allowed to make money in any other way. They literally can't have a job at a grocery store. They can't sign with Nike. They can't do anything for money. How will having a job a a grocery store affect competitive balance. I'll help you out. It doesn't. In regards to your second question, a couple of things. To answer it directly, plenty. For example, a coworker of mine has a husband works in some sort of IT field. He is out of town in Denver very often, for multiple weeks in a row for many weeks in the year, so much so that him and his co-workers that travel with him have an apartment that they share. Guess who pays for his expenses, including housing and food out there? I'll help you out, not him. On a broader note, who the hell are we to limit what they can receive as payment or perks? That's about as un-American as it gets. I applied for a position with a consulting firm. It involves tons of travel. To the point where you spend 4-6 days out of town per work week. The firm pays for everything associated with that because if they didn't, the job would make no sense financially. --- http://i.imgur.com/0Bi86cp.gif <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:887223395] in If the NCA... [t:75803936]...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>I already addressed that point - they aren't "gifts." It's quid pro quo. That quid pro quo is literally why it isn't allowed, because it used to be, and lead to people throwing games. And you still haven't actually answered my question - name one place that pays its employees in food, housing, education, AND money.</quote> Dude, you literally didn't address my point. Here let me ask it a different way. Why aren't NCAA athletes allowed to make money in any other way. They literally can't have a job at a grocery store. They can't sign with Nike. They can't do anything for money. How will having a job a a grocery store affect competitive balance. I'll help you out. It doesn't. In regards to your second question, a couple of things. To answer it directly, plenty. For example, a coworker of mine has a husband works in some sort of IT field. He is out of town in Denver very often, for multiple weeks in a row for many weeks in the year, so much so that him and his co-workers that travel with him have an apartment that they share. Guess who pays for his expenses, including housing and food out there? I'll help you out, not him. On a broader note, who the hell are we to limit what they can receive as payment or perks? That's about as un-American as it gets.</quote> I applied for a position with a consulting firm. It involves tons of travel. To the point where you spend 4-6 days out of town per work week. The firm pays for everything associated with that because if they didn't, the job would make no sense financially.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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