Current Events > Healthcare vote officially scrapped

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/26/us/politics/mcconnell-obamacare-repeal-graham-cassidy-trump.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

Senator Mitch McConnell on Tuesday officially pulled the plug on the latest plan to repeal the Affordable Care Act, telling senators they will not vote on the measure and effectively admitting defeat in the last-gasp drive to fulfill a core promise of President Trump and Republican lawmakers.

Mr. McConnells announcement came less than 24 hours after a pivotal Republican senator, Susan Collins of Maine, declared firm opposition to the repeal proposal, all but ensuring that Republican leaders would be short of the votes they needed.

Senate Republicans already tried once this year to approve repeal legislation, an exercise that ended in defeat when Senator John McCain of Arizona gave a thumbs-down in July to kill that repeal proposal.

This time, Mr. McConnell, the majority leader, and his fellow Republicans were trying to make one more attempt at passing a bill, and a deadline was fast approaching: They have only until the end of this week to pass a repeal bill using special budget rules that shield it from a Democratic filibuster.

Mr. McConnell could afford to lose only two of his members. But when he conceded defeat on Tuesday, three members of his conference had already publicly declared their opposition: Ms. Collins, Mr. McCain and Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky.

None of the three senators seemed likely to drop their opposition: Mr. McCain detested the partisan process used to push the bill, Ms. Collins had broad concerns about the legislations effects on health care, and Mr. Paul objected to the fundamental architecture of the legislation.

At the White House on Tuesday, Mr. Trump expressed his displeasure.

At some point there will be a repeal and replace, but well see whether or not that point is now or will it be shortly thereafter, Mr. Trump said. But we are disappointed in certain so-called Republicans.

The failure in the Senate was also a disappointment to Republicans in the House, who managed to pass a repeal bill in May after their own struggles.

Were a little frustrated that the Senate has not acted on a seminal promise, Speaker Paul D. Ryan said.

Then he returned to talking up the next big goal for Republicans: overhauling the tax code.

Given that the method for passing it with only 50 votes expires at the end of the month, this is finally dead.
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*cackles*

Trump is going to have fun explaining to voters in 2020 why Obamacare hasn't gone anywhere.
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So people will be able to keep their health insurance? Wtf :(
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lol
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>Finally get elected after eight years
>Been promising to scrap ACA for six years
>Have no plan
>All plans you muster up are worse than what exists
>Your own party betrays you
>American public now likes the ACA because they know their healthcare is at risk
>The American people now think Democrats do better on healthcare
>Nothing happens
>Try to bribe Alaska and Maine
>Nothing happens
>Go into midterms accomplishing nothing on the biggest promise of your party after eight years

W H O K N E W P O L I T I C S C O U L D B E S O C O M P L I C A T E D
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Lmao

Just give us the public option. Jesus Christ it's just so god damn simple.
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Webmaster4531 posted...

Just give us the public option. Jesus Christ it's just so god damn simple.

Republicans don't care about people, only corporations and maintaining the white majority.

An impressive three and out, or will they go for the desperation fourth down?
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is anyone honestly surprised
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ThePieReborn posted...

An impressive three and out, or will they go for the desperation fourth down?

I'm sure Mitch McConnell will be in the dark corner of a restaurant somewhere this evening with his republican cronies trying to draft the fourth "for realz this time guys" version of their health care bill. :v
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This just in: Republicans can't govern.
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They should have the vote anyway.

Give most of their members a nice participation trophy for voting to repeal Obamacare.
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Lmfao

Literally 7 years to come up with something better

Republicans are such fucking failures
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Antifar posted...

Given that the method for passing it with only 50 votes expires at the end of the month, this is finally dead.

they will just use the budget to cut medicare and medicaid now, though
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Obamacare is the greatest wedge tool for House races since abortion. Why the fuck would they want to give it up? They would love to be able to hark on this for the next 30 years. Not calling conspiracy but . . . aliens.
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Balrog0 posted...

Antifar posted...

Given that the method for passing it with only 50 votes expires at the end of the month, this is finally dead.

they will just use the budget to cut medicare and medicaid now, though

That's the first thing that they tried and failed.
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Does Obamacare cover something to help with their impotence?
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Webmaster4531 posted...

That's the first thing that they tried and failed.

the budget is still live

http://www.aradvocates.org/house-budget-plan-would-hurt-arkansas-families/

$1.5 trillion in cuts to Medicaid and other health programs;
$487 billion in cuts to Medicare;
$150 billion in SNAP (formerly food stamps);
$200 billion in cuts to Pell grants and student loans;
$500 billion in unspecified cuts to income security programs, which could include disability benefits, the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) for low-income workers, Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF), the Child Tax Credit, and funding for children in foster care;
$700 billion in unrealistic savings from improper payments in programs such as the EITC, Child Tax Credit, Medicaid, Medicare, and other programs a target that is unlikely to be met.
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The failure in the Senate was also a disappointment to Republicans in the House, who managed to pass a repeal bill in May after their own struggles.

Wasn't that the bill they passed hoping it would never get past the Senate?
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OpheliaAdenade posted...

*cackles*

Trump is going to have fun explaining to voters in 2020 why Obamacare hasn't gone anywhere.

Throw McConnell under the bus, claim he's trying to get things done but "the establishment" is fighting him, cheers of MAGA and drain the swamp.
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It sucks ass that we have to deal with this shit because the ACA itself isn't that good but we'll never be able to improve with these currently proposed shit tier alternatives.
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Webmaster4531 posted...

Just give us the public option. Jesus Christ it's just so god damn simple.

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Literally control the house and senate still cant get anything done nice shit ass government we have
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De Evolution posted...

Webmaster4531 posted...

Just give us the public option. Jesus Christ it's just so god damn simple.

And you thought a republican based bill would go for that when the public option couldn't even get unilateral democrat support?
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Go_Totodile posted...

It sucks ass that we have to deal with this shit because the ACA itself isn't that good but we'll never be able to improve with these currently proposed shit tier alternatives.

The only way to "repeal and replace" is to go Single Payer and let private insurance companies exist predominantly as a way for people with money to "cut the line" and get medical attention at private hospitals faster instead of the wait lists.
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redhats are furious that they still have healthcare
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mario2000 posted...

redhats are furious that they still have healthcare

The majority of people of both parties opposed this bill.
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The GOP continues to surprise me with just how incompetent they are at governing
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Antifar posted...

mario2000 posted...

redhats are furious that they still have healthcare

The majority of people of both parties opposed this bill.

Not the far right

Ex-Kefiroth posted...

It's not going to die. they'll just try again next year.

That would be a few months before mid-terms. Trotting out yet another Obamacare "repeal" bill with ~20% approval a month or two ahead of elections would torpedo their chances of picking up seats in the Senate. To say nothing of the effect on the House. It would be electoral suicide.

ElatedVenusaur posted...

Ex-Kefiroth posted...

It's not going to die. they'll just try again next year.

That would be a few months before mid-terms. Trotting out yet another Obamacare "repeal" bill with ~20% approval a month or two ahead of elections would torpedo their chances of picking up seats in the Senate. To say nothing of the effect on the House. It would be electoral suicide.

No it won't

Redhats gonna redhat no matter what dude.

Yeah, the only way they can pass a healthcare bill now is if they actually put together a good, bipartisan bill. Of course, Republicans think "bipartisan" is a four-letter word.
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Alabaster_Wings posted...

ElatedVenusaur posted...

Ex-Kefiroth posted...

It's not going to die. they'll just try again next year.

That would be a few months before mid-terms. Trotting out yet another Obamacare "repeal" bill with ~20% approval a month or two ahead of elections would torpedo their chances of picking up seats in the Senate. To say nothing of the effect on the House. It would be electoral suicide.

No it won't

Redhats gonna redhat no matter what dude.

I think we should stop calling them redhats and call them redasses, because that implies they are asses, which they are, and also references those baboons with red asses, because trump supporters are prone to baboonesque mentality.
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Trump's legacy is going to be "I CAN'T REPEAL THIS DAMN LAW".
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Dems just made a huge mistake giving King Master Trump a bad deal.
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McConnell's time as senate majority leader is not going to be looked at with a very positive lens, to put it lightly.
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Antifar posted...

But we are disappointed in certain so-called Republicans.

Trump said this? What an ass.
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I'm getting sick of all of this winning!
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Making America great again by not accomplishing anything.

I hope the wall is the next thing to get axed.
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Solid Sonic posted...

Making America great again by not accomplishing anything.

I hope the wall is the next thing to get axed.

It's basically been axed already. Trump and his cultists are just in denial about it.
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Whats to stop them trying to get a new proposal through next week? Isn't that what they've been doing since the first failed bill?

NibeIungsnarf posted...

Whats to stop them trying to get a new proposal through next week? Isn't that what they've been doing since the first failed bill?

After the end of the month (which is Saturday), the reconciliation period ends and they won't be able to pass it with a simple majority.
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NibeIungsnarf posted...

Whats to stop them trying to get a new proposal through next week? Isn't that what they've been doing since the first failed bill?

After this week, they need more votes to pass a bill than they have Republicans in Congress.
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UnholyMudcrab posted...

NibeIungsnarf posted...

Whats to stop them trying to get a new proposal through next week? Isn't that what they've been doing since the first failed bill?

After the end of the month (which is Saturday), the reconciliation period ends and they won't be able to pass it with a simple majority.

Lmao. Maybe this will give them some incentive to try and actually come up with something better than just going hard as fuck trying to simply get rid of it with no plan going forward

@ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

So people will be able to keep their health insurance? Wtf :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpa-5JdCnmo
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Axiom posted...

UnholyMudcrab posted...

NibeIungsnarf posted...

Whats to stop them trying to get a new proposal through next week? Isn't that what they've been doing since the first failed bill?

After the end of the month (which is Saturday), the reconciliation period ends and they won't be able to pass it with a simple majority.

Lmao. Maybe this will give them some incentive to try and actually come up with something better than just going hard as fuck trying to simply get rid of it with no plan going forward

I don't have any expectations that republicans in congress have any desire to work together to make something good for the people of this country.
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>.> I dunno about you, but I saw this coming
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Republicans don't seem to understand the value in taking small steps.

Rule of thumb: If you're trying to pass legislation, and it is overall better than what is currently in place, VOTE TO APPROVE IT, FFS. Don't wait for your absolute ideals to be met.
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