Current Events > Why do current veterans think they have some sort of moral high ground?

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Pretty much all of the wars since World War 2 fought by current US veterans have been the equivalent of hired thugs fighting over power and influence..

They are so fast to claim in the case of NFL players protesting they they fought for our rights and freedoms?

Bullshit.

The last time our rights and freedoms were fought for everyone who fought in it is dead by now. There were really only 3 major cases were our rights and freedoms were under threat.

1. The Revolutionary War which was a fight mostly over religious and economic freedom that founded the country in the first place.

2. The Civil War which mostly was a fight over racial freedoms

3. World War 2 which was to stop potentially a global conquest.

Every other bullshit war has mostly been taking other peoples shit, which is extremely unethical anyway you slice it , and no God did not fucking give you the green light to kill land displace millions of people...

Or one of the countless proxy wars to sustain Americas sphere of influence as a global powerhouse..

There is no ethical high ground in the Vietnam or Korean wars, America literally invaded countries thousands of miles away because they disagreed with their socioeconomic policies and more importantly didnt want their sphere of influence to be reduced by Russia. This is the epitome of poorly compensated thuggery.

So what do you have left, the war on "terrorism?", which again was mostly a plot to increase Americas SOI in the Middle East and build pro American governments and allies? One of the countries accused of terrorism... wasnt actually even a terrorist government.. they just made it up and kept it moving.

So please explain to me mr Murica fuck yeah guy how you are fighting for our values and freedoms by engaging random countries miles away from us that have yet to pose any significant threat to us in decades?

Yeah, fuck the troops, am I right, guys?
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I dont think I said that.

Im actually completely neutral to them.

They are people doing a job... much like a nightclub bouncer.

What I think is amusing is people saying things like " I will not tolerate people disrespecting the flag I give my life to protect"

Yes. Clearly without any of the wars in the last 50 years America would be doomed. I mean. Im sure everyone of us has felt the effects of Vietnam switching to a communist government after our failed invasion.....

oh wait

You must be too young to remember 9/11. Iraq was a mess, but I wouldn't call Afghanistan a case of "hired thugs fighting over power and influence"
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Afghanistan is at minimum grey.

Sure there was a legitimate response and concern about terrorism in the country...

However, the aim of the war seemed to have been to overthrow a very fundamentalist/isolationist government and replace it with a pro-American government that would function as a political ally.

Remember th US wasnt attacked by a country.. it was attacked by a political organization spanning a large amount of the Middle East.

Invasion? Pretty sure South Vietnam/Republic of Vietnam invited us there cause:
1. The French were dicks to them, having the US help instead being more preferable.
2. North Vietnam allies (Viet Cong) were harassing the South. The US supplied SV with funding and arms prior to taking over military duty

Consider how America's navy is helping Puerto Rico. Do you see other navies helping Puerto Rico? Let's not knock vets right now.
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Don't volunteer and then b**** about it.

"Government should pay for my rent, I'm a veteran"
"I shouldn't have to pay for bags, I'm a veteran"
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ehhwhatever posted...

Consider how America's navy is helping Puerto Rico. Do you see other navies helping Puerto Rico? Let's not knock vets right now.

Its our fucking territory?

Is this a troll post?

They do protect our rights, but if they use that as an argument too try and silence opposition then they don't grasp the meaning of them very well.
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HiddenRoar posted...

Invasion? Pretty sure South Vietnam/Republic of Vietnam invited us there cause:
1. The French were dicks to them, having the US help instead being more preferable.
2. North Vietnam allies (Viet Cong) were harassing the South. The US supplied SV with funding and arms prior to taking over military duty

Yes invasion. It was a cold war proxy war. The north was literally trying to reunify Vietnam and we invaded the country solely to prevent a communist country increasing the SOI of Russia and China.

It would be like if another country invaded and fought with the South during our Civil War because they wanted a slave trading partner

I don't.

I know I was a citizen mercenary employed by the bankers and globalists to further an agenda to keep GOD (Gold. Oil. Drugs) flowing around the world. But it helped me out in a bad time in life and helped get me where I am today. Most of us soldiers aren't brainwashed morons. We're people.

Where do you think all the gold Saddam had ended up? Why do you people think US soldiers in Afghanistan were forced to protect and patrol poppy fields and how Afghanistan supplies like 80% of the opium of used in the world supply of illegal heroin. Why did we bomb Gaddhafi and topple his country right after he was preparing to unite Africa under a gold backed currency and trade oil with it?

Kissinger himself said how all of the elite and upper politicians truly feel about soldiers. "Dumb stupid animals to be used".
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As a NAVY vet I sure do hate those flag kissing douchebags.

Only because they were usually the ones who would go snitch.

So I feel you TC
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OmegaTomHank posted...

ehhwhatever posted...

Consider how America's navy is helping Puerto Rico. Do you see other navies helping Puerto Rico? Let's not knock vets right now.

Its our fucking territory?

Is this a troll post?

Poll the average American and they'll be just as clueless.
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You clearly don't know anything about the Vietnam war
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TrollSlayer11 posted...

I don't.

I know I was a citizen mercenary employed by the bankers and globalists to further an agenda to keep GOD (Gold. Oil. Drugs) flowing around the world. But it helped me out in a bad time in life and helped get me where I am today. Most of us soldiers aren't brainwashed morons. We're people.

Where do you think all the gold Saddam had ended up? Why do you people think US soldiers in Afghanistan were forced to protect and patrol poppy fields and how Afghanistan supplies like 80% of the opium of used in the world supply of illegal heroin. Why did we bomb Gaddhafi and topple his country right after he was preparing to unite Africa under a gold backed currency and trade oil with it?

Kissinger himself said how all of the elite and upper politicians truly feel about soldiers. "Dumb stupid animals to be used".

Respect.

because they did a scary thing and can feign ignorance so that makes them tough and cool and you have to honor them

duh
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I'm a vetvabd people should have thwbright to bitch and moan about their country, as is their right.
TC, whether you believe the wars were justified or not since WWII (and I do not think they were), it doesnt change the fact that we deserve a little more respect than your average person who spouts off becuase we volunteered and were ready to lay our lives down for what we believed in, and others were not.

That's gotta be worth something at the end of the day, no?
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Eat More Beef posted...

I'm a vetvabd people should have thwbright to bitch and moan about their country, as is their right.
TC, whether you believe the wars were justified or not since WWII (and I do not think they were), it doesnt change the fact that we deserve a little more respect than your average person who spouts off becuase we volunteered and were ready to lay our lives down for what we believed in, and others were not.

That's gotta be worth something at the end of the day, no?

Believed in what? America bullying other countries for its own personal gain?

What are you talking about?

Hitmen also lay their lives down for other peoples selfish gain... they are not admirable.

While im not equating the US military to hitmen... the idea that protesting patriotism is some huge slap in the face to their service is asinine..

Dudes acting like they are the founding fathers

How old are you and how much do you weigh?