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jborgan
09/29/17 2:33:56 PM
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CLEVELAND White nationalist Richard Spencer has threatened to sue two Ohio universities if they refuse to rent campus spaces for him to speak.

Spencer's associates contacted the University of Cincinnati and Ohio State University this month asking to rent theaters and auditoriums for Spencer to speak. An attorney representing Spencer's event organizers said Friday that he'll challenge the schools in court if they don't approve the requests.

"Either they host them, or they get sued," said Kyle Bristow, the founder of a law firm dedicated to legal advocacy on behalf of the so-called "alt-right," a loose collection of white nationalists, white supremacists, and anti-immigration populists.


Spencer and his associates in April were denied a request to speak at Auburn University, prompting a federal lawsuit against school. A judge ruled against Auburn, which then allowed Spencer to speak as planned.

Several hundred people attended the event. Three people were arrested outside the building during clashes between Spencer's supporters and his opponents.

In August, event organizers threatened to sue the University of Florida after the school denied Spencer's request to hold an event. The school reversed course. Spencer is scheduled to speak there Oct. 19.

Bristow sued Michigan State University earlier this month after it refused to rent him space.

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VipaGTS
09/29/17 2:34:35 PM
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I'm gonna sue my neighbor for not letting me come in and watch tv with him.
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--kresnik--
09/29/17 2:34:48 PM
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So funny how the liberals use the free speech argument about the NFL thing, now their double standard will keep the conservative from having his fair say.
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BLAKUboy
09/29/17 2:35:55 PM
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the so-called "alt-right,"

How is it so-called when Spencer literally coined the term?
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boxington
09/29/17 2:35:57 PM
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--kresnik-- posted...
So funny how the liberals use the free speech argument about the NFL thing, now their double standard will keep the conservative from having his fair say.

yea, poor white supremacists, am I right?
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DreadedWave
09/29/17 2:36:00 PM
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You wanna be a Nazi? Fine. No one wants or needs to hear you speak.
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HylianFox
09/29/17 2:36:18 PM
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A lawsuits, America's true past-time
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mario2000
09/29/17 2:37:44 PM
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--kresnik-- posted...
So funny how the liberals use the free speech argument about the NFL thing, now their double standard will keep the conservative from having his fair say.

Well that didn't last long.

Redhats actually understanding what "freedom of speech" is, that is.
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CADE FOSTER
09/29/17 2:39:49 PM
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boxington posted...
--kresnik-- posted...
So funny how the liberals use the free speech argument about the NFL thing, now their double standard will keep the conservative from having his fair say.

yea, poor white supremacists, am I right?

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Alabaster_Wings
09/29/17 2:41:09 PM
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LOL. Conservatives are such hypocritical snowflakes that they're suing now. Call in the trial lawyers!
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Phantom_Nook
09/29/17 2:41:39 PM
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Why can't this guy just go away?
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BLAKUboy
09/29/17 2:42:18 PM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
Why can't this guy just go away?

He likes getting punched, I guess.
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DreadedWave
09/29/17 2:44:42 PM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
Why can't this guy just go away?

No thing as bad publicity.
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DragonGirlYuki
09/29/17 2:45:08 PM
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Should have just allowed him to speak, but charge an exorbitant amount in rent.
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iPhone_7
09/29/17 3:01:17 PM
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--kresnik-- posted...
So funny how the liberals use the free speech argument about the NFL thing, now their double standard will keep the conservative from having his fair say.

So funny that conservatives use the free speech argument when it comes to Nazis/KKK holding hate speech rallies or torch rallies for Confederate monuments but are outraged whenever black people protest, even in silence.
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Solar_Crimson
09/29/17 3:03:06 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
--kresnik-- posted...
So funny how the liberals use the free speech argument about the NFL thing, now their double standard will keep the conservative from having his fair say.

So funny that conservatives use the free speech argument when it comes to Nazis/KKK holding hate speech rallies or torch rallies for Confederate monuments but are outraged whenever black people protest, even in silence.

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COVxy
09/29/17 3:07:42 PM
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Let them sue, there's no reason why a university should be obligated to give anyone a podium. I think the bigger issue is universities hosting non-academic speakers in general though, tbh. Unless specifically for entertainment, I think they should restrict invited speakers to only academic speakers.
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VipaGTS
09/29/17 3:09:31 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
iPhone_7 posted...
--kresnik-- posted...
So funny how the liberals use the free speech argument about the NFL thing, now their double standard will keep the conservative from having his fair say.

So funny that conservatives use the free speech argument when it comes to Nazis/KKK holding hate speech rallies or torch rallies for Confederate monuments but are outraged whenever black people protest, even in silence.

They're even using it wrong here. No "Liberals" said anything about freedom of speech until the president and his staff made comments. There was concern that even if they aren't making a law, the idea of the president suggesting owners cut players for what they're doing is not a road anyone wants to begin to do down. Calling them sons of bitches in the process. If he was still just dumbass Trump in NY it wouldn't have mattered.
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creativerealms
09/29/17 3:15:00 PM
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--kresnik-- posted...
So funny how the liberals use the free speech argument about the NFL thing, now their double standard will keep the conservative from having his fair say.

They are free to have their fair say, at a place that will accept them. Colleges do have the rights to turn someone down. Free speech does not grant you a platform for your speech.
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The Admiral
09/29/17 3:20:33 PM
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If he's being asked to speak by student groups, I agree with him. If he's just forcing his way on campus because he feels entitled to a platform, I don't.
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COVxy
09/29/17 3:23:48 PM
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The Admiral posted...
If he's being asked to speak by student groups, I agree with him. If he's just forcing his way on campus because he feels entitled to a platform, I don't.


I don't see why it would matter. Your average undergrad also doesn't want to go to class, wants easy exams, doesn't want required reading. No reason why the university should be obligated to fold to silly student demands.
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mario2000
09/29/17 3:24:15 PM
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The Admiral posted...
If he's being asked to speak by student groups, I agree with him.

If this is the case then I feel like there's a bigger issue at hand here if the school allows white supremacist groups.
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HylianFox
09/29/17 3:25:42 PM
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COVxy posted...
Your average undergrad also doesn't want to go to class, wants easy exams, doesn't want required reading.

Then why go to college at all? It's not mandatory
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averagejoel
09/29/17 3:27:08 PM
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lol

what grounds does he even have to sue for this
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ZCheveyo
09/29/17 3:27:44 PM
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I guess it follows the gay couple suing the bakery?

Is that what is happening? The gay couple claimed they got turned away for being gay and Spencer is claiming he is being turned away for....political viewpoints?
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COVxy
09/29/17 3:36:15 PM
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HylianFox posted...
COVxy posted...
Your average undergrad also doesn't want to go to class, wants easy exams, doesn't want required reading.

Then why go to college at all? It's not mandatory


That's the entire point. Universities shouldn't compromise their own integrity due to student demands.
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Letron_James
09/29/17 3:39:07 PM
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can he just fall off a bridge already. So tired of seeing his fuckin ugly mug and stupid haircut, except when hes getting punched in the face
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Zeeak4444
09/29/17 3:46:57 PM
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What grounds is he trying to sue on?

This doesn't seem like a free speech issue in any sense of the term. Only someone as stupid as SC would think it is.
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The Great Muta 22
09/29/17 3:51:06 PM
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Fuck that white nationalist son of a bitch. Dude is utter scum
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prettyprincess
09/29/17 4:04:43 PM
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The Admiral posted...
If he's being asked to speak by student groups, I agree with him. If he's just forcing his way on campus because he feels entitled to a platform, I don't.

do you hold to this whenever subset student groups ask campuses to spend on counseling/safe spaces or other inclusivity facilities (trans restrooms, prayer rooms, etc)?

curious where the threshold for student request matters in terms of number of individuals benefiting versus cost to campus

or do you think those other requests are separate in effect from something like hosting talks?
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averagejoel
09/29/17 4:06:58 PM
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prettyprincess posted...
The Admiral posted...
If he's being asked to speak by student groups, I agree with him. If he's just forcing his way on campus because he feels entitled to a platform, I don't.

do you hold to this whenever subset student groups ask campuses to spend on counseling/safe spaces or other inclusivity facilities (trans restrooms, prayer rooms, etc)?

curious where the threshold for student request matters in terms of number of individuals benefiting versus cost to campus

or do you think those other requests are separate in effect from something like hosting talks?

thing is, no one benefits by having Richard Spencer speak at a school
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VipaGTS
09/29/17 4:07:44 PM
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Racists. Racists benefit from it. If you consider being more smug and radicalized in white supremacy a benefit.
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Metal_Bomberman
09/29/17 4:10:37 PM
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Whiny little baby mad that he isn't being allowed to talk about how he wants to round up non-white people in camps and kill them.
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CW_McGraw
09/29/17 4:13:05 PM
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"Let me incite a race riot or I'll steal your money." Good to see fascist thugs embracing their thuggery.
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NINExATExSEVEN
09/29/17 4:23:17 PM
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Lol

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VipaGTS
09/29/17 4:25:24 PM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Lol

"Omg naaaaaatsiiiis!" - CE

What are you on about? Is he not a genocide advocating white supremacist who embraces being a neo nazi? (No. Leftists didn't create that term)
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Anteaterking
09/29/17 4:28:34 PM
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I don't know enough about Auburn's situation to know why they lost the lawsuit, but I don't understand how a university is required to grant conference space to a speaker. My public university doesn't even have to grant ME conference space, and I teach for them.
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thronedfire2
09/29/17 4:29:29 PM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Lol

"Omg naaaaaatsiiiis!" - CE


But he literally is one
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Delirious_Beard
09/29/17 4:30:55 PM
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fuck him
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NINExATExSEVEN
09/29/17 4:31:05 PM
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VipaGTS posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Lol

"Omg naaaaaatsiiiis!" - CE

What are you on about? Is he not a genocide advocating white supremacist who embraces being a neo nazi? (No. Leftists didn't create that term)


Rofl XD

Imagine thinking Spencer is dangerous to society. Keep fighting the good fight lefties.
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Axiom
09/29/17 4:33:41 PM
#41:


NINExATExSEVEN posted...
VipaGTS posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Lol

"Omg naaaaaatsiiiis!" - CE

What are you on about? Is he not a genocide advocating white supremacist who embraces being a neo nazi? (No. Leftists didn't create that term)


Rofl XD

Imagine thinking Spencer is dangerous to society. Keep fighting the good fight lefties.

"He's just an actual neo nazi that preaches genocide and subjugation of all non-white races. He's completely harmless"
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thronedfire2
09/29/17 4:36:09 PM
#42:


NINExATExSEVEN posted...
VipaGTS posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Lol

"Omg naaaaaatsiiiis!" - CE

What are you on about? Is he not a genocide advocating white supremacist who embraces being a neo nazi? (No. Leftists didn't create that term)


Rofl XD

Imagine thinking Spencer is dangerous to society. Keep fighting the good fight lefties.


Yeah people shoulda just ignored Hitler I'm sure he couldn't possibly do anything bad with his ideology

Oh wait
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NINExATExSEVEN
09/29/17 4:43:47 PM
#43:


thronedfire2 posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
VipaGTS posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Lol

"Omg naaaaaatsiiiis!" - CE

What are you on about? Is he not a genocide advocating white supremacist who embraces being a neo nazi? (No. Leftists didn't create that term)


Rofl XD

Imagine thinking Spencer is dangerous to society. Keep fighting the good fight lefties.


Yeah people shoulda just ignored Hitler I'm sure he couldn't possibly do anything bad with his ideology

Oh wait


Lol Lol lol

Imagine thinking that a nobody with no power like Spencer is somehow as dangerous as Hitler. Or even close.

Spencer is a supremacist. But to call him a Nazi in anything but title is hilarious.

I'm cheering for the left. You're our heroes in today world.
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MrDrMan
09/29/17 4:50:28 PM
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Let him sue. Why would universities be obligated to allow him?
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andel
09/29/17 4:51:50 PM
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freedom of speech =/= being given a platform. trumpanzees defending this guy are so dumb lol
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VipaGTS
09/29/17 4:53:25 PM
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andel posted...
freedom of speech =/= being given a platform. trumpanzees defending this guy are so dumb lol

And their current counter is "what about bro players?!??"...the league and the owners support what they're doing. They have no issue with the players exercising their free speech on the field before games. Spencer can go find a venue that feels the same about him. Universities in Ohio aren't options for him.

The major difference is Spencer doesn't even work for the schools. If the nfl owners banned kneeling it's something the NFLPA could take up with them...if Ohio bans Spencer he really has no leg to stand on.

Either way neither is a constitutional freedom of speech issue.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
09/29/17 4:53:37 PM
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What a fucking newborn
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andel
09/29/17 4:53:41 PM
#48:


NINExATExSEVEN posted...
thronedfire2 posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
VipaGTS posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Lol

"Omg naaaaaatsiiiis!" - CE

What are you on about? Is he not a genocide advocating white supremacist who embraces being a neo nazi? (No. Leftists didn't create that term)


Rofl XD

Imagine thinking Spencer is dangerous to society. Keep fighting the good fight lefties.


Yeah people shoulda just ignored Hitler I'm sure he couldn't possibly do anything bad with his ideology

Oh wait


Lol Lol lol

Imagine thinking that a nobody with no power like Spencer is somehow as dangerous as Hitler. Or even close.

Spencer is a supremacist. But to call him a Nazi in anything but title is hilarious.

I'm cheering for the left. You're our heroes in today world.


except he advocates for genocide and has people giving him nazi salutes when he speaks. he is a neo nazi and is not entitled a platform
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NINExATExSEVEN
09/29/17 5:04:29 PM
#49:


andel posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
thronedfire2 posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
VipaGTS posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Lol

"Omg naaaaaatsiiiis!" - CE

What are you on about? Is he not a genocide advocating white supremacist who embraces being a neo nazi? (No. Leftists didn't create that term)


Rofl XD

Imagine thinking Spencer is dangerous to society. Keep fighting the good fight lefties.


Yeah people shoulda just ignored Hitler I'm sure he couldn't possibly do anything bad with his ideology

Oh wait


Lol Lol lol

Imagine thinking that a nobody with no power like Spencer is somehow as dangerous as Hitler. Or even close.

Spencer is a supremacist. But to call him a Nazi in anything but title is hilarious.

I'm cheering for the left. You're our heroes in today world.


except he advocates for genocide and has people giving him nazi salutes when he speaks. he is a neo nazi and is not entitled a platform


Ok you guys on the left seem to not understand the difference between a Nazi and a supremacist.

A Nazi is from ww2. They had a leader that controlled the country. They had social power. They could exercise that power to do great harm. They had military. They were uniformed and had leadership among many things. They had power, it's as simple as that.

"Nazis" as you call people today, have none of those things. Zero. They don't even have numbers on their side. They're just supremacists.

They can do salutes, repeat Nazi rhetoric, whatever. But they're no more actual Nazis as Antifa are actual communists.

Both are idiots. They don't have actual power.

To act like words somehow = the power to put them into action is ridiculous.

And that's why this is funny. The far left are out of touch with reality.
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andel
09/29/17 5:07:50 PM
#50:


NINExATExSEVEN posted...
andel posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
thronedfire2 posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
VipaGTS posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Lol

"Omg naaaaaatsiiiis!" - CE

What are you on about? Is he not a genocide advocating white supremacist who embraces being a neo nazi? (No. Leftists didn't create that term)


Rofl XD

Imagine thinking Spencer is dangerous to society. Keep fighting the good fight lefties.


Yeah people shoulda just ignored Hitler I'm sure he couldn't possibly do anything bad with his ideology

Oh wait


Lol Lol lol

Imagine thinking that a nobody with no power like Spencer is somehow as dangerous as Hitler. Or even close.

Spencer is a supremacist. But to call him a Nazi in anything but title is hilarious.

I'm cheering for the left. You're our heroes in today world.


except he advocates for genocide and has people giving him nazi salutes when he speaks. he is a neo nazi and is not entitled a platform


Ok you guys on the left seem to not understand the difference between a Nazi and a supremacist.

A Nazi is from ww2. They had a leader that controlled the country. They had social power. They could exercise that power to do great harm. They had military. They were uniformed and had leadership among many things. They had power, it's as simple as that.

"Nazis" as you call people today, have none of those things. Zero. They don't even have numbers on their side. They're just supremacists.

They can do salutes, repeat Nazi rhetoric, whatever. But they're no more actual Nazis as Antifa are actual communists.

Both are idiots. They don't have actual power.

To act like words somehow = the power to put them into action is ridiculous.

And that's why this is funny. The far left are out of touch with reality.


a neo nazi is human scum, and no one is obligated to give them a platform. weird that you feel the need to defend them tbh
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