Current Events > Neo-Nazi has swastika tattoos removed after befriending overweight black woman.

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A neo-Nazi who was part of a violent white supremacist group for 20 years has had his swastika tattoos removed after becoming friends with his black probation officer. Michael Kent, 38, had several swastika tattoos and the slogan, 'White pride' on his back, removed and taken down the Nazi flags in his home.

Kent said his views changed when black parole officer Tiffany Whittier, 45, was assigned to his case. Kent told ABC News, 'If it wasn't for her I would have seeped back into it. I would think of her more like family.'

Kent's tattoos were removed at Fallen Heroes tattoo studio in Colorado, in partnership with non-profit Redemption Ink, which offers free removal of hate tattoos.

Kent says he is now working on a chicken farm in Colorado where most of his co-workers are Hispanic and not Neo Nazis. He said, ''Before all this, I wouldn't work for anybody or with anybody that wasn't white.'

Whittier says, 'I'm not here to judge him. That's not my job to judge. My job is to be that positive person in someone's life.'

Full Article: http://metro.co.uk/2017/10/02/neo-nazi-has-swastika-tattoos-removed-after-befriending-black-probation-officer-6970351/



This is what happens when your reaction is not to punch other humans beings CE.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

This is what happens when your reaction is not to punch other humans beings CE.

Antifa doesn't care. they don't want to forgive or give a chance for redemption. they probably still hate this man. Antifa just wants to engage in violence, and they will use anything they can find to excuse it and justify the punch.

why does it matter that she's overweight
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How is this suprising to anyone?
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mario2000 posted...

why does it matter that she's overweight

because it establishes how her booty was able to cure this man's Nazism.
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You're seriously late with these stories lately
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT2ehTBN7P0
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Who gives a shit, the world is still shit, everything in life is shit and good things rarely matter. Even this topic has a negative ulterior motive of getting yet another "Gotha!" at liberals
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mario2000 posted...

why does it matter that she's overweight

Yeah really, that's such an odd thing to include in the topic title
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non-profit Redemption Ink, which offers free removal of hate tattoos.

It's really cool that something like this exists
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tremain07 posted...

Who gives a shit, the world is still shit, everything in life is shit and good things rarely matter. Even this topic has a negative ulterior motive of getting yet another "Gotha!" at liberals

I think it says a lot about your mindset that you consider "People who punch other human beings." is equal to "Liberal"
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UnfairRepresent posted...

This is what happens when your reaction is not to punch other humans beings CE.

This is like showing video of someone winning a million dollars and saying "this is what happens when you play the lottery." Most neo-nazis and white supremacists will never be swayed regardless of whether you're "kind" to them or if you punch them in the face.

eston posted...

non-profit Redemption Ink, which offers free removal of hate tattoos.

It's really cool that something like this exists

Yeah that was a pretty uplifting thing to read.
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That_Happened posted...

Most neo-nazis and white supremacists will never be swayed

Where's the evidence of this?

Meanwhile on the other side check out how Wade Watts literally ended an entire chapter of the KKK by loving them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldWf5Yj-RnI

And Daryl Davis (also one guy) who has gotten over 200 KKK members to quit and believe in equality.

There is zero evidence whatsoever that intelligence and reason is not the most effective way of promoting a strong argument.

And you know it
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Don't know why her weight matters, but surely a heart-warming story to see people push away their racism for good.
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https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75814362
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@UnfairRepresent I MADE THIS TOPIC ALREADY DON'T FUCKING STEAL MY THUNDER!

just kidding I don't really care at least today I don't but if you do it again man we gonna have beef

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UnfairRepresent posted...

Meanwhile on the other side check out how Wade Watts literally ended an entire chapter of the KKK by loving them:

And Daryl Davis (also one guy) who has gotten over 200 KKK members to quit and believe in equality.

Massachusetts winner of $758 million jackpot quits job
http://www.bbc.com/news/41040013

Lottery winner stays grounded after $220M jackpot
http://www.npr.org/2016/01/10/462555691/how-220m-changed-a-lottery-winner

UnfairRepresent posted...

There is zero evidence whatsoever that intelligence and reason is not the most effective way of promoting a strong argument.

You kidding?
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/02/27/why-facts-dont-change-our-minds
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-people-fly-from-facts/

Like I said, this is an awesome story. It's great to see someone turn away from hate. But to say "this is what happens when you don't punch Nazis" is false. What usually happens when you don't punch Nazis is the same thing that happens when you do: nothing at all.
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Please show the video of the guy who won the lottery 200 times.

And the video who won every lottery of his town in their entirity every day for years on end?

Even your own "evidence" damns you. Your own site's go to example is the anti-vacc movement, which is a heavily critizied movement... due to reason and debate.

And contains very few members who are even willing to talk to others.

Anti-Vax is equal to the people who go around punching Nazis. They're the small minority who intentionally don't listen to reason because it's so effective at changing their mind and they don't want their minds changed.
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Of course the salient point in this topic is that neo-nazis lack agency of their own and its the responsibility of black people to be nice to them and not the neo-nazis responsibility to not want to lynch them.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

Of course the salient point in this topic is that neo-nazis lack agency of their own and its the responsibility of black people to be nice to them and not the neo-nazis responsibility to not want to lynch them.

Romans 12:21
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Anti-Vax is equal to the people who go around punching Nazis. They're the small minority who intentionally don't listen to reason because it's so effective at changing their mind and they don't want their minds changed.

...Which is why reasoning isn't so effective.

I don't think attempts at reasoning should ever be stopped, but you just gave the perfect example of why it isn't as effective as emotional appeal.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

Of course the salient point in this topic is that neo-nazis lack agency of their own and its the responsibility of black people to be nice to them and not the neo-nazis responsibility to not want to lynch them.

Romans 12:21

Nuremberg 1945 proved far more effective.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

Of course the salient point in this topic is that neo-nazis lack agency of their own and its the responsibility of black people to be nice to them and not the neo-nazis responsibility to not want to lynch them.

Romans 12:21

Nuremberg 1945 proved far more effective.

Wait so you're implying if the Nazis won WW2 they would be right?

WTF is wrong with you.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

Of course the salient point in this topic is that neo-nazis lack agency of their own and its the responsibility of black people to be nice to them and not the neo-nazis responsibility to not want to lynch them.

Romans 12:21

Nuremberg 1945 proved far more effective.

Wait so you're implying if the Nazis won WW2 they would be right?

WTF is wrong with you.

Give yourself a charlie horse with that stretch?
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The Nazis weren't wrong because we were violent to them. And thinking that being violent towards people who disagree with you a solution is insanity.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

Of course the salient point in this topic is that neo-nazis lack agency of their own and its the responsibility of black people to be nice to them and not the neo-nazis responsibility to not want to lynch them.

Romans 12:21

Nuremberg 1945 proved far more effective.

Wait so you're implying if the Nazis won WW2 they would be right?

WTF is wrong with you.

Give yourself a charlie horse with that stretch?

He's a bit slow.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

The Nazis weren't wrong because we were violent to them. And thinking that being violent towards people who disagree with you a solution is insanity.

Genocide isn't up for debate and I don't know why keep on acting like it is.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

The Nazis weren't wrong because we were violent to them. And thinking that being violent towards people who disagree with you a solution is insanity.

Genocide isn't up for debate and I don't know why keep on acting like it is.

Yeah that the first sign you can just completely disregard someone's opinion. When they think advocating genocide is equal to "having a disagreement."
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A_Good_Boy posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

The Nazis weren't wrong because we were violent to them. And thinking that being violent towards people who disagree with you a solution is insanity.

Genocide isn't up for debate and I don't know why keep on acting like it is.

Because if someone says "I'm alt-right" and your reaction is to violently attack them, they've beaten you in a debate.

And if their ideals truly are harmful like you claim them to be, strengthing their cause and weakening your own is literally among the WORST possible actions you could take.

There's a reason why your parents tried to teach you this when you were 3 years old. It's sad you never grew up and still maintain an infant's perspective of other ideals.
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That_Happened posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

The Nazis weren't wrong because we were violent to them. And thinking that being violent towards people who disagree with you a solution is insanity.

Genocide isn't up for debate and I don't know why keep on acting like it is.

Yeah that the first sign you can just completely disregard someone's opinion. When they think advocating genocide is equal to "having a disagreement."

If you're saying you don't have a disagreement then you're saying you agree with advocating genocide you silly sausage.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Because if someone says "I'm alt-right" and your reaction is to violently attack them, they've beaten you in a debate

That's what they were chanting in Charlottesville. "I'm alt-right! I'm alt-right! I'm alt-right!"
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That_Happened posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Because if someone says "I'm alt-right" and your reaction is to violently attack them, they've beaten you in a debate

That's what they were chanting in Charlottesville. "I'm alt-right! I'm alt-right! I'm alt-right!"

Man if only everyone in Charlottesville was violently attacked, then they'd all be good loving Christians like you.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

The Nazis weren't wrong because we were violent to them. And thinking that being violent towards people who disagree with you a solution is insanity.

Genocide isn't up for debate and I don't know why keep on acting like it is.

Because if someone says "I'm alt-right" and your reaction is to violently attack them, they've beaten you in a debate.

And if their ideals truly are harmful like you claim them to be, strengthing their cause and weakening your own is literally among the WORST possible actions you could take.

There's a reason why your parents tried to teach you this when you were 3 years old. It's sad you never grew up and still maintain an infant's perspective of other ideals.

My parents didn't teach me to sit idly by while some dude is trying to string me up from a tree. You might find it prudent to hash out the finer points of you deserving to live while your boots dangle from a tree branch, but I don't. So you go ahead and keep on trying to shame people for daring to think that their life holds value and they don't want to die, but it's a pretty sorry hill for you to die on.
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And that Nazi on the bus who was threatening people and calling them apes and throwing bananas at them? That's a cultural difference--in his native tongue he was just saying "I'm alt-right!"
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A_Good_Boy posted...

So you go ahead and keep on trying to shame people for daring to think that their life holds value and they don't want to die,

I don't.

I question anyone who wants to attack other people for disagreeing with them.

Frankly I question anyone who wants to attack other people.

Violence is bad. Its very sad that you do not know this and want other human beings to suffer. Like an infant.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Frankly I question anyone who wants to attack other people.

Violence is bad.

Absolutely. Nazis, white supremacists, antifa, are awful, awful people.

And that Wade Watts guy took an enormous risk when he was surrounded by the KKK threatening to kill him and he made a joke to lighten the mood. But that's a risk that will rarely work, and it's important to keep that in mind. I hate violence, but I have no problem with self defense. If violence is bad don't threaten people or make them fear for their lives. It's a pretty simple rule but shut-in contrarians have a big problem with it.
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That_Happened posted...

And that Nazi on the bus who was threatening people and calling them apes and throwing bananas at them?

For the record there is actually no proof that he ever did this.

The only thing that was proven was he worn an item of clothing, sat on a bus listening to music, someone ran up and shouted at him, people intentionally stalked him, following him around and spreading his location around on social media (yet somehow couldn't get footage of him shouting or throwing things, funny that) to get a gang to attack him and then someone else attacked him.

Curiously all the people who were sharing his location deleted their posts and accounts after the fact. Which seems odd considering according to you they did nothing wrong.

Imagine instead that it was a Muslim girl in India wearing an armband that said "I love to eat cow" and then sat on a bus listening to music, someone ran up and shouted at her, people intentionally stalked her, following her around and spreading his location around on social media to get a gang to attack her and then someone else attacked her.

I'm sure that will swing you to joining most of India in the value and spirutality of the cow.

Oh wait a bunch of lunatics being violent and deranged didn't convince you?

Then why the fuck do you think it will convince people of things that you DO believe in?

And btw before you start screaming excuses, a Muslim girl really was brutally assaulted by 3 Hindus in India for eating cow. It happens. It's not how you convince people of anything, its how you be a child.

You really are a silly sausage.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

So you go ahead and keep on trying to shame people for daring to think that their life holds value and they don't want to die,

I don't.

I question anyone who wants to attack other people for disagreeing with them.

Frankly I question anyone who wants to attack other people.

Violence is bad. Its very sad that you do not know this and want other human beings to suffer. Like an infant.

And it's disgusting that you assign more fault with the people that don't want to be the victims of genocide than you do with people that wish to stage one. Maybe if you actually had something to fear from an organization that for decades went through the night, dragged them from their homes, and hung them from tree branches, and took pictures of themselves smiling and having fun while doing it, you'd be more sympathetic. But it's pretty hypocritical for you to wish that those people would just have an honest conversation with neo-nazis while at the same time posting dishonest replies about the dangers posed by those that follow their ideology.
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Curiously all the people who were sharing his location deleted their posts and accounts after the fact. Which seems odd considering according to you they did nothing wrong.

Would you want to be targeted by a group you're afraid of? If I turned in a member of, say, a gang using an account that had any kind of my information, I'd get rid of it.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

And it's disgusting that you assign more fault with the people that don't want to be the victims of genocide

A man who murders 16 children with a rusty hook doesn't want to be a victim of genocide.

"I don't want to be a victim of genocide" is not a defense of attacking people.

I'm pretty sure the Romans didn't want to be victims of genocide when they crucified Jesus.

Again, a small child can comprehend this.
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eston posted...

non-profit Redemption Ink, which offers free removal of hate tattoos.

It's really cool that something like this exists

This
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UnfairRepresent posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

And it's disgusting that you assign more fault with the people that don't want to be the victims of genocide

A man who murders 16 children with a rusty hook doesn't want to be a victim of genocide.

"I don't want to be a victim of genocide" is not a defense of attacking people.

I'm pretty sure the Romans didn't want to be victims of genocide when they crucified Jesus.

Again, a small child can comprehend this.

16 random children have never waged race based terror on the US but the people you're defending have. It's a mystery why you think their ideology deserves defending.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Oh he's defending the Nazi yet again (it's curious that he didn't bother to press charges and ducked the police when they asked him what happened, if he was truly attacked for no reason). But you just can't help it: it's that contrarian blood in you.

Hey, trigger warning: 2+2 is 4.
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That_Happened posted...

Oh he's defending the Nazi yet again (it's curious that he didn't bother to press charges and ducked the police when they asked him what happened,

Guide posted...

Would you want to be targeted by a group you're afraid of?

This is like Trump's tweets. Like with the wanting to be violent to people you are your own worst enemies

"Why would a guy with a deeply minority opinion who was stalked and assaulted not want to make a bigger spotlight upon himself? Clearly violence is a good thing!" is logic so bad you could put it next to an Admiral post and they'd look similar.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

But it's pretty hypocritical for you to wish that those people would just have an honest conversation with neo-nazis while at the same time posting dishonest replies about the dangers posed by those that follow their ideology.

And he was never seen again
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I forget what the goalpost was for the topic in general. Cause, ultimately, he is right that #punchanazi is really fucking stupid and damaging.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

"Why would a guy with a deeply minority opinion

There you go again trying to pretend advocating genocide is simply a "minority opinion."

A_Good_Boy posted...

It's a mystery why you think their ideology deserves defending.

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"Why would a guy with a deeply minority opinion who was stalked and assaulted not want to make a bigger spotlight upon himself? Clearly violence is a good thing!" is logic so bad you could put it next to an Admiral post and they'd look similar.

What... are you talking about? I didn't say anything like that.

I'm saying if I got a violent group in trouble, I'd want to avoid that violent group. Not that I support violence. Sometimes you say things that make sense. I agree that the violence angle is wrong, if you didn't notice. But then you do this weird thing.
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