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FrisbeeDude
10/02/17 10:41:52 PM
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http://www.newsweek.com/white-men-have-committed-more-mass-shootings-any-other-group-675602?amp=1

The deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history was shocking in its scale but it wasn't a surprise that it was committed by a white male.

Statistics show that since 1982, the majority of mass shootings 54 percent were committed by white men, according to data from Mother Jones. Black people were the second largest perpetrators of mass shootings based on ethnic background, but only accounted for roughly 16 percent of the total incidents during the same time period.

The average age of the shooters was 35, however, making the perpetrator in Las Vegas, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, somewhat of an outlier. It is too early to say if mental illness played a role in Paddock's case, but it has in a number of mass shootings, though it is perhaps too frequently pointed to as the primary cause.

Other research suggests white men commit mass shootings out of a sense of entitlement.

James Holmes, for example, had failed out of his PhD program when he opened fire in a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado. Dylann Roof was unemployed when he gunned down nine people at the end of a prayer service in a Charteston, South Carolina church.

"There's a feeling of entitlement that white men have that black men don't," criminologist James Alan Fox told The Washington Post in 2012. "They often complain that their job was taken by blacks or Mexicans or Jews. They feel that a well-paid job is their birthright. It's a blow to their psyche when they lose that. . . . If you're a member of a group that hasn't historically experienced unemployment, there's a far greater stigma to [losing a job] than those who have."

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MangaFan462
10/02/17 10:43:25 PM
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Black violence is often just relegated down to a gang violence though
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Esrac
10/02/17 10:44:03 PM
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Ok. How does that percentage mesh with population statistics?
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MacDaMurderer
10/02/17 10:45:57 PM
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MangaFan462 posted...
Black violence is often just relegated down to a gang violence though


Free the homie, he ain't do shit but shoot ten people at the park.
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refmon
10/02/17 10:46:24 PM
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MangaFan462 posted...
Black violence is often just relegated down to a gang violence though

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The Admiral
10/02/17 10:47:40 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
Statistics show that since 1982, the majority of mass shootings 54 percent were committed by white men, according to data from Mother Jones. Black people were the second largest perpetrators of mass shootings based on ethnic background, but only accounted for roughly 16 percent of the total incidents during the same time period.


Since white people are 68% of the population and black people are 13%, this means black people are more likely to commit mass shootings than whites, on a per person basis.
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Tappor
10/02/17 10:47:45 PM
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Yay for making a tragedy into a race issue!

God people are pathetic
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Bishop9800
10/02/17 10:48:28 PM
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Tappor posted...
Yay for making a tragedy into a race issue!

God people are pathetic

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Dragonblade01
10/02/17 10:50:14 PM
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And what useful information are we meant to glean from these statistics?
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Vicious_Dios
10/02/17 10:51:23 PM
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Bishop9800 posted...
Tappor posted...
Yay for making a tragedy into a race issue!

God people are pathetic

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The Admiral
10/02/17 10:51:43 PM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
And what useful information are we meant to glean from these statistics?


That black people are more likely to commit mass shootings than whites, just like they're more likely to commit every category of violent crime that the FBI database tracks. Not sure that the TC thought this through.
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CADE FOSTER
10/02/17 10:53:21 PM
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White people are prone to mass shootings obviously its in the article wtf guys
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The Admiral
10/02/17 10:54:09 PM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
White people are prone to mass shootings obviously its in the article wtfguys


It actually says they're less likely. Read again.
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Mofuji
10/02/17 10:54:47 PM
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Whatever it takes to keep that narrative that the white man is the devil.
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CADE FOSTER
10/02/17 10:55:38 PM
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FrisbeeDude
10/02/17 10:56:16 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
And what useful information are we meant to glean from these statistics?


That black people are more likely to commit mass shootings than whites, just like they're more likely to commit every category of violent crime that the FBI database tracks. Not sure that the TC thought this through.


Addy being intellectually dishonest? Shocker
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ShinigamiSoul
10/02/17 10:56:46 PM
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A sense of entitlement...well it's interesting to see the possible psychology behind it, if anything.
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The Admiral
10/02/17 10:57:18 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
The Admiral posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
And what useful information are we meant to glean from these statistics?


That black people are more likely to commit mass shootings than whites, just like they're more likely to commit every category of violent crime that the FBI database tracks. Not sure that the TC thought this through.


Addy being intellectually dishonest? Shocker


You didn't understand what you were posting again, did you?
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ShinigamiSoul
10/02/17 10:57:58 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
And what useful information are we meant to glean from these statistics?


That black people are more likely to commit mass shootings than whites

LOL ok Addison
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Dragonblade01
10/02/17 10:58:43 PM
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I meant more as in what are we supposed to do with this information? What conclusion are we meant to reach? Should we consider some race to be inherently more dangerous than another? Should we wonder as to any contributing factors or just right it off as "just how it is"?
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weapon_d00d816
10/02/17 10:58:48 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
the majority of mass shootings 54 percent were committed by white men

Oh so less than the percentage of white people.

Hand in your racism card. You're not even good at it.
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The Admiral
10/02/17 10:59:03 PM
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ShinigamiSoul posted...
The Admiral posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
And what useful information are we meant to glean from these statistics?


That black people are more likely to commit mass shootings than whites

LOL ok Addison


That's exactly what it says. Join the TC in the club of people who don't understand how statistical rates work.
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CADE FOSTER
10/02/17 10:59:24 PM
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The Admiral
10/02/17 11:00:16 PM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
Admirals alt right is showing


More like the ignorance of you and the TC is showing. TC did not understand his own article, and it's no surprise you don't either.
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Zodd3224
10/02/17 11:00:32 PM
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People like Frisbee and Addy are both why this country is so fucked.
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weapon_d00d816
10/02/17 11:02:10 PM
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Zodd3224 posted...
People like Frisbee and Addy are both why this country is so fucked.

What's Admiral doing wrong here? Lol
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The Admiral
10/02/17 11:02:18 PM
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GOATTHlEF posted...
Can't believe someone this racist was ever a mod.


Adding you to the list. Please, add these posts to your pathetic screenshot archive so we can chronicle who doesn't understand how statistics work.
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FrisbeeDude
10/02/17 11:03:12 PM
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The Admiral posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
The Admiral posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
And what useful information are we meant to glean from these statistics?


That black people are more likely to commit mass shootings than whites, just like they're more likely to commit every category of violent crime that the FBI database tracks. Not sure that the TC thought this through.


Addy being intellectually dishonest? Shocker


You didn't understand what you were posting again, did you?


I understand you're trying to use percentages to dodge the issue
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0AbsoluteZero0
10/02/17 11:03:37 PM
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GOATTHlEF posted...
Can't believe someone this racist was ever a mod.

Seriously... while he's actually not wrong about the statistics ITT, his underlying racism is still shining through clear as day :O
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Mal_Fet
10/02/17 11:04:10 PM
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Yeah, isn't it weird that the majority population in a country is represented as such in other statistics
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A_Good_Boy
10/02/17 11:04:14 PM
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"Just posting statistics bro, math doesn't lie. Wait, what's math saying about white people?"
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Chaosmaster00
10/02/17 11:04:18 PM
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While the topic title is not wrong in saying that they have committed numerically higher numbers of mass shooting, it is misleading, as while it says that they have simply committed more mass shootings, your OP implies that they are more likely to commit mass shootings than black americans, in which the statistic used in the OP actually states the opposite, when accounting for percentages that the stated races occupy of the population.

So, I'm not sure where you were going with this, TC. Either you're stating the obvious (white have committed numerically higher numbers of mass shootings), or presenting a false narrative (they are more likely than blacks to commit them, when the statistic used proves the opposite).
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10DimeBag10
10/02/17 11:04:23 PM
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The Admiral posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Statistics show that since 1982, the majority of mass shootings 54 percent were committed by white men, according to data from Mother Jones. Black people were the second largest perpetrators of mass shootings based on ethnic background, but only accounted for roughly 16 percent of the total incidents during the same time period.


Since white people are 68% of the population and black people are 13%, this means black people are more likely to commit mass shootings than whites, on a per person basis.


Nice to see this guy Admiral is still dedicated to his racism. I have to assume is paying him right?
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The Admiral
10/02/17 11:04:34 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
The Admiral posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
The Admiral posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
And what useful information are we meant to glean from these statistics?


That black people are more likely to commit mass shootings than whites, just like they're more likely to commit every category of violent crime that the FBI database tracks. Not sure that the TC thought this through.


Addy being intellectually dishonest? Shocker


You didn't understand what you were posting again, did you?


I understand you're trying to use percentages to dodge the issue


What do you think the issue is? Your article says that if you pick a random white person and a random black person, the black person is more likely to be a mass shooter.
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The Admiral
10/02/17 11:04:55 PM
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10DimeBag10 posted...
The Admiral posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Statistics show that since 1982, the majority of mass shootings 54 percent were committed by white men, according to data from Mother Jones. Black people were the second largest perpetrators of mass shootings based on ethnic background, but only accounted for roughly 16 percent of the total incidents during the same time period.


Since white people are 68% of the population and black people are 13%, this means black people are more likely to commit mass shootings than whites, on a per person basis.


Nice to see this guy Admiral is still dedicated to his racism. I have to assume is paying him right?


Those fucking racist facts again.
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Dark_SilverX
10/02/17 11:05:15 PM
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White people are saints they would never
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andel
10/02/17 11:06:34 PM
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not sure why you are attacking admiral when he is correct about the tc's article showing that black people commit mass shootings at a higher percent than white people by percentages.

like, it doesn't matter because there isn't anything meaningful to extrapolate by looking at stats like this but tc tried to do the opposite of admiral and made a fool of himself by posting data that contradicted his intended assertion.
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weapon_d00d816
10/02/17 11:07:00 PM
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It absolutely boggles my mind that people overlook the blatantly racist overtones TC posted here and go straight for Admiral. Like, you can't be serious. Are you guys just trying to troll him?
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FrisbeeDude
10/02/17 11:07:50 PM
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"White people commit over half of shooting sprees in the US"

"But, black people, even if accounting for 16 percent, comitt them at a slightly higher rate than their population, so you should really be afraid of them!"
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Mal_Fet
10/02/17 11:08:20 PM
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andel posted...
not sure why you are attacking admiral when he is correct about the tc's article showing that black people commit mass shootings at a higher percent than white people by percentages.

Dude, seriously?

Facts are racist.

Wake up.
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FrisbeeDude
10/02/17 11:08:24 PM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
It absolutely boggles my mind that people overlook the blatantly racist overtones TC posted here and go straight for Admiral. Like, you can't be serious. Are you guys just trying to troll him?


I posted an article from a reputable source without comment.
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The Admiral
10/02/17 11:08:55 PM
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FWIW, I think the percentage differences are fairly trivial and that the stats don't support a strong racial disparity for these types of shootings. But TC is a race baiter, and obviously an uneducated race baiter on top of that, so I'm certainly not sparing any expense to make him look foolish. He didn't understand what he was posting and deserves to be ridiculed for this ignorance.
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Chaosmaster00
10/02/17 11:09:42 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
"White people commit over half of shooting sprees in the US"

"But, black people, even if accounting for 16 percent, comitt them at a slightly higher rate than their population, so you should really be afraid of them!"

You can't say one thing and then use data that contradicts that statement without destroying the basis of your own claim.
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Mofuji
10/02/17 11:09:43 PM
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The Admiral posted...
10DimeBag10 posted...
The Admiral posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Statistics show that since 1982, the majority of mass shootings 54 percent were committed by white men, according to data from Mother Jones. Black people were the second largest perpetrators of mass shootings based on ethnic background, but only accounted for roughly 16 percent of the total incidents during the same time period.


Since white people are 68% of the population and black people are 13%, this means black people are more likely to commit mass shootings than whites, on a per person basis.


Nice to see this guy Admiral is still dedicated to his racism. I have to assume is paying him right?


Those fucking racist facts again.

Facts are racist only if they don't agree with the narrative.
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Mal_Fet
10/02/17 11:09:59 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
I posted an article from a reputable source without comment.

Implying his stats are not corroborated by reputable sources like the FBI website
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apocalyptic_4
10/02/17 11:10:16 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
"Just posting statistics bro, math doesn't lie. Wait, what's math saying about white people?"


"Statistics is ok to paint a group in a negative light unless it's about whites"
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Mal_Fet
10/02/17 11:12:30 PM
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apocalyptic_4 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
"Just posting statistics bro, math doesn't lie. Wait, what's math saying about white people?"


"Statistics is ok to paint a group in a negative light as long as it's about whites"

ftfy
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CADE FOSTER
10/02/17 11:13:17 PM
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apocalyptic_4 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
"Just posting statistics bro, math doesn't lie. Wait, what's math saying about white people?"


"Statistics is ok to paint a group in a negative light unless it's about whites"

This
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