Current Events > Man accidentially kills his son with a firearm while cleaning his gun.

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UnfairRepresent 10/05/17 2:02:40 PM #1:	Joshua Jordan's father was cleaning his .45-caliber handgun at a Port Charlotte home after returning from a local gun range when the firearm discharged and struck Jordan. Cops arrived on the scene to find the Joshua Jordan lying on his back in a "pool of blood" while John and Jennifer Jordan were performing CPR. Joshua Jordan was taken to a nearby hospital, where he was pronounced dead. The Charlotte County Sheriff's Office says the shooting was an accident, and no charges were filed. A weapons expert told local TV station Fox 4 that he has seen this tragedy play out too many times, and offered a series of tips. "Number one, treat every firearm as if its loaded," John Dezendorf told the station. "Number two, do not point it in the direction that you are not willing to destroy. Number 3, dont you put your finger on that trigger until you have acquired your target and you want to shoot your firearm." Full Article: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/florida-man-fatally-shoots-son-cleaning-gun-article-1.3538940 Jesus, just imagine being that guy's girfriend. And this happens... --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:887865931] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote>Joshua Jordan's father was cleaning his .45-caliber handgun at a Port Charlotte home after returning from a local gun range when the firearm discharged and struck Jordan. Cops arrived on the scene to find the Joshua Jordan lying on his back in a "pool of blood" while John and Jennifer Jordan were performing CPR. Joshua Jordan was taken to a nearby hospital, where he was pronounced dead. The Charlotte County Sheriff's Office says the shooting was an accident, and no charges were filed. A weapons expert told local TV station Fox 4 that he has seen this tragedy play out too many times, and offered a series of tips. "Number one, treat every firearm as if its loaded," John Dezendorf told the station. "Number two, do not point it in the direction that you are not willing to destroy. Number 3, dont you put your finger on that trigger until you have acquired your target and you want to shoot your firearm." Full Article: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/florida-man-fatally-shoots-son-cleaning-gun-article-1.3538940 Jesus, just imagine being that guy's girfriend. And this happens...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 10/05/17 2:04:02 PM #2:	Why would anyone clean a loaded gun? And why CPR for a gun shot? --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:887865992] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote>Why would anyone clean a loaded gun? And why CPR for a gun shot?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WalkingLobsters 10/05/17 2:04:58 PM #3:	The Charlotte County Sheriff's Office says the shooting was an accident, and no charges were filed. --- http://i.imgur.com/fsYJcFn.jpg http://i.imgur.com/SZie71I.jpg Starcraft 2 Username = Gears <cite>WalkingLobsters posted [p:887866046] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote>The Charlotte County Sheriff's Office says the shooting was an accident, and no charges were filed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 10/05/17 2:05:26 PM #4:	Death penalty --- http://i.imgur.com/LAvnefi.gif http://i.imgur.com/6kW9fXL.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:887866082] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote>Death penalty</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tropicalwood 10/05/17 2:05:27 PM #5:	First rule before leave the range and cleaning, always visually and physically inspect that the gun is loaded. --- ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya <cite>Tropicalwood posted [p:887866084] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote>First rule before leave the range and cleaning, always visually and physically inspect that the gun is loaded.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DreadedWave 10/05/17 2:05:29 PM #6:	LightHawKnight posted... And why CPR for a gun shot? Probably wasn't thinking clearly. --- https://i.imgur.com/ojmm9Ja.jpg <cite>DreadedWave posted [p:887866087] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote>And why CPR for a gun shot?</quote> Probably wasn't thinking clearly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 10/05/17 2:06:24 PM #7:	The father sounds like a complete moron. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:887866143] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote>The father sounds like a complete moron.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 10/05/17 2:06:50 PM #8:	UnfairRepresent posted... "Number one, treat every firearm as if its loaded," I remember hearing this in like pre-school. Crazy that people forget about it. --- #FeelTheBern http://i.imgur.com/q5z4CUu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/6B9oFXh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sy42Dlf.jpg <cite>lilORANG posted [p:887866174] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>"Number one, treat every firearm as if its loaded,"</quote> I remember hearing this in like pre-school. Crazy that people forget about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 10/05/17 2:07:21 PM #9:	Tropicalwood posted... First rule before leave the range and cleaning, always visually and physically inspect that the gun is loaded. Dumb post. You always act like the gun is loaded. Don't "inspect" the gun and then point it at someone when you clean after you established it isn't. Just ensure you're not pointing it at someone, period. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:887866199] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tropicalwood posted...</cite> <quote>First rule before leave the range and cleaning, always visually and physically inspect that the gun is loaded.</quote> Dumb post. You always act like the gun is loaded. Don't "inspect" the gun and then point it at someone when you clean after you established it isn't. Just ensure you're not pointing it at someone, period.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 10/05/17 2:09:00 PM #10:	"Number one, treat every firearm as if its loaded," John Dezendorf told the station. "Number two, do not point it in the direction that you are not willing to destroy. Number 3, dont you put your finger on that trigger until you have acquired your target and you want to shoot your firearm." How about Number 1: make sure the fucking gun is unloaded before you clean it This is pretty elementary stuff, and I think it's ridiculous that this is considered an accident when it is actually pure negligence. --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:887866295] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote><quote>"Number one, treat every firearm as if its loaded," John Dezendorf told the station. "Number two, do not point it in the direction that you are not willing to destroy. Number 3, dont you put your finger on that trigger until you have acquired your target and you want to shoot your firearm."</quote> How about Number 1: make sure the fucking gun is unloaded before you clean it This is pretty elementary stuff, and I think it's ridiculous that this is considered an accident when it is actually pure negligence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tropicalwood 10/05/17 2:09:13 PM #12:	UnfairRepresent posted... Tropicalwood posted... First rule before leave the range and cleaning, always visually and physically inspect that the gun is loaded. Dumb post. You always act like the gun is loaded. Don't "inspect" the gun and then point it at someone when you clean after you established it isn't. Just ensure you're not pointing it at someone, period. This is a dumb post. You're always supposed to inspect your gun before transporting and cleaning, it doesn't matter if your supposed to treat them as loaded, no matter what you always check the gun. --- ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya <cite>Tropicalwood posted [p:887866315] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tropicalwood posted...</cite> <quote>First rule before leave the range and cleaning, always visually and physically inspect that the gun is loaded.</quote> Dumb post. You always act like the gun is loaded. Don't "inspect" the gun and then point it at someone when you clean after you established it isn't. Just ensure you're not pointing it at someone, period.</quote> This is a dumb post. You're always supposed to inspect your gun before transporting and cleaning, it doesn't matter if your supposed to treat them as loaded, no matter what you always check the gun.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Offworlder1 10/05/17 2:09:16 PM #13:	This idiot should never have had a gun if he did not practice anykind of safety. A gun should be unloaded before getting to the range with gun, magazine, and bullets all separated. Then after your done shooting at the range the gun should be EMPTY, magazine taken out, chamber checked, and bullets stored. Gun safety is always the top priority, safety first, safety always. --- "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" <cite>Offworlder1 posted [p:887866318] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote>This idiot should never have had a gun if he did not practice anykind of safety. A gun should be unloaded before getting to the range with gun, magazine, and bullets all separated. Then after your done shooting at the range the gun should be EMPTY, magazine taken out, chamber checked, and bullets stored. Gun safety is always the top priority, safety first, safety always.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ammonitida 10/05/17 2:09:28 PM #14:	Too bad we'll never hear the child's side of the story. <cite>Ammonitida posted [p:887866327] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote>Too bad we'll never hear the child's side of the story.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 10/05/17 2:10:30 PM #15:	Incredibly stupid for not even checking if there was a round in the chamber --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:887866379] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote>Incredibly stupid for not even checking if there was a round in the chamber</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 10/05/17 2:12:15 PM #16:	Ammonitida posted... Too bad we'll never hear the child's side of the story. Child? He was 22 --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:887866473] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote>Too bad we'll never hear the child's side of the story.</quote> Child? He was 22</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AcFan87 10/05/17 2:12:22 PM #17:	Mind blowing idea: don't clean your gun while the damn thing is loaded and in the presence of your children. That's how fuck-ups like this do NOT happen. <cite>AcFan87 posted [p:887866482] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote>Mind blowing idea: don't clean your gun while the damn thing is loaded and in the presence of your children. That's how fuck-ups like this do NOT happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 10/05/17 2:14:54 PM #18:	Tropicalwood posted... UnfairRepresent posted... Tropicalwood posted... First rule before leave the range and cleaning, always visually and physically inspect that the gun is loaded. Dumb post. You always act like the gun is loaded. Don't "inspect" the gun and then point it at someone when you clean after you established it isn't. Just ensure you're not pointing it at someone, period. This is a dumb post. You're always supposed to inspect your gun before transporting and cleaning, it doesn't matter if your supposed to treat them as loaded, no matter what you always check the gun. Exactly. Just because you're supposed to treat it as if it's always loaded doesn't mean you shouldn't also make sure it's unloaded before performing certain actions. Half of the "pretend it's always loaded" rule is about developing good habits, which is why you do that even when you know for a fact it's empty. --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:887866617] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tropicalwood posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tropicalwood posted...</cite> <quote>First rule before leave the range and cleaning, always visually and physically inspect that the gun is loaded.</quote> Dumb post. You always act like the gun is loaded. Don't "inspect" the gun and then point it at someone when you clean after you established it isn't. Just ensure you're not pointing it at someone, period.</quote> This is a dumb post. You're always supposed to inspect your gun before transporting and cleaning, it doesn't matter if your supposed to treat them as loaded, no matter what you always check the gun.</quote> Exactly. Just because you're supposed to treat it as if it's always loaded doesn't mean you shouldn't also make sure it's unloaded before performing certain actions. Half of the "pretend it's always loaded" rule is about developing good habits, which is why you do that even when you know for a fact it's empty.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Super Saiyan 3 Goku 10/05/17 2:15:49 PM #19:	UnfairRepresent posted... Tropicalwood posted... First rule before leave the range and cleaning, always visually and physically inspect that the gun is loaded. Dumb post. You always act like the gun is loaded. Don't "inspect" the gun and then point it at someone when you clean after you established it isn't. Just ensure you're not pointing it at someone, period. This. The very first thing I'd do is to point it AWAY from anything that I'd regret harming or destroying. --- When it is obvious that the goals cannot be reached, don't adjust the goals, adjust the action steps. - Confucius <cite>Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted [p:887866680] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tropicalwood posted...</cite> <quote>First rule before leave the range and cleaning, always visually and physically inspect that the gun is loaded.</quote> Dumb post. You always act like the gun is loaded. Don't "inspect" the gun and then point it at someone when you clean after you established it isn't. Just ensure you're not pointing it at someone, period.</quote> This. The very first thing I'd do is to point it AWAY from anything that I'd regret harming or destroying.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BalisticWarri0r 10/05/17 2:16:33 PM #20:	Offworlder1 posted... This idiot should never have had a gun if he did not practice anykind of safety. A gun should be unloaded before getting to the range with gun, magazine, and bullets all separated. Then after your done shooting at the range the gun should be EMPTY, magazine taken out, chamber checked, and bullets stored. Gun safety is always the top priority, safety first, safety always. Tropicalwood posted... UnfairRepresent posted... Tropicalwood posted... First rule before leave the range and cleaning, always visually and physically inspect that the gun is loaded. Dumb post. You always act like the gun is loaded. Don't "inspect" the gun and then point it at someone when you clean after you established it isn't. Just ensure you're not pointing it at someone, period. This is a dumb post. You're always supposed to inspect your gun before transporting and cleaning, it doesn't matter if your supposed to treat them as loaded, no matter what you always check the gun. This is a dumb post. Someone who has a conceal carry permit does not have to transport his firearm unloaded and locked up. If you treat all firearms as if they are loaded, you will never be in a position where you "accidently" discharge it. <cite>BalisticWarri0r posted [p:887866725] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote><cite>Offworlder1 posted...</cite> <quote>This idiot should never have had a gun if he did not practice anykind of safety. A gun should be unloaded before getting to the range with gun, magazine, and bullets all separated. Then after your done shooting at the range the gun should be EMPTY, magazine taken out, chamber checked, and bullets stored. Gun safety is always the top priority, safety first, safety always.</quote> <cite>Tropicalwood posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tropicalwood posted...</cite> <quote>First rule before leave the range and cleaning, always visually and physically inspect that the gun is loaded.</quote> Dumb post. You always act like the gun is loaded. Don't "inspect" the gun and then point it at someone when you clean after you established it isn't. Just ensure you're not pointing it at someone, period.</quote> This is a dumb post. You're always supposed to inspect your gun before transporting and cleaning, it doesn't matter if your supposed to treat them as loaded, no matter what you always check the gun.</quote> This is a dumb post. Someone who has a conceal carry permit does not have to transport his firearm unloaded and locked up. If you treat all firearms as if they are loaded, you will never be in a position where you "accidently" discharge it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nativengine 10/05/17 2:18:19 PM #21:	Why in the blue hell was he cleaning a loaded gun? I was in Cabelas the other day and it's scary to see how many people who shouldn't be buying guns were there buying guns. Sure their background checks could be fine but sometimes people just don't realize just how dangerous a gun is. --- Jive <cite>nativengine posted [p:887866822] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote>Why in the blue hell was he cleaning a loaded gun? I was in Cabelas the other day and it's scary to see how many people who shouldn't be buying guns were there buying guns. Sure their background checks could be fine but sometimes people just don't realize just how dangerous a gun is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tropicalwood 10/05/17 2:20:44 PM #22:	BalisticWarri0r posted... This is a dumb post. Someone who has a conceal carry permit does not have to transport his firearm unloaded and locked up. If you treat all firearms as if they are loaded, you will never be in a position where you "accidently" discharge it. You're saying you should never check the gun to make sure it's loaded before transportation to and from the range, and cleaning. For example, a glock will require the trigger to be pulled, are you the type of person that wants to punch a hole through your wall while cleaning because "every gun is treated as if it is loaded, so why should it matter if it actually is" --- ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya <cite>Tropicalwood posted [p:887866948] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote><cite>BalisticWarri0r posted...</cite> <quote>This is a dumb post. Someone who has a conceal carry permit does not have to transport his firearm unloaded and locked up. If you treat all firearms as if they are loaded, you will never be in a position where you "accidently" discharge it.</quote> You're saying you should never check the gun to make sure it's loaded before transportation to and from the range, and cleaning. For example, a glock will require the trigger to be pulled, are you the type of person that wants to punch a hole through your wall while cleaning because "every gun is treated as if it is loaded, so why should it matter if it actually is"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 10/05/17 2:21:54 PM #23:	nativengine posted... Why in the blue hell was he cleaning a loaded gun? I was in Cabelas the other day and it's scary to see how many people who shouldn't be buying guns were there buying guns. Sure their background checks could be fine but sometimes people just don't realize just how dangerous a gun is. I worry about guns in the hands of the untrained as well --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:887867021] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote>Why in the blue hell was he cleaning a loaded gun? I was in Cabelas the other day and it's scary to see how many people who shouldn't be buying guns were there buying guns. Sure their background checks could be fine but sometimes people just don't realize just how dangerous a gun is.</quote> I worry about guns in the hands of the untrained as well</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alucard188 10/05/17 2:23:05 PM #24:	LightHawKnight posted... Why would anyone clean a loaded gun? And why CPR for a gun shot? Likely didn't think that there was one in the chamber. It's a horrible tragedy from a casual oversight. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx <cite>Alucard188 posted [p:887867086] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote>Why would anyone clean a loaded gun? And why CPR for a gun shot?</quote> Likely didn't think that there was one in the chamber. It's a horrible tragedy from a casual oversight.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SOLID_SNAPE 10/05/17 2:23:16 PM #25:	The gun owner didn't kill the son THE GUN DID Enough propaganda --- https://i.imgur.com/wJHOM2V.jpg <cite>SOLID_SNAPE posted [p:887867098] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote>The gun owner didn't kill the son THE GUN DID Enough propaganda</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Offworlder1 10/05/17 2:26:37 PM #26:	The guy in the article just came back from thr local gun range, he was not concealed carry, that is what I based my post on. If a person has a concealed carry license then they have to be extremely careful, but I would hope people with concealed carry are all about safety as most intelligent gun owners do. --- "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" <cite>Offworlder1 posted [p:887867282] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote>The guy in the article just came back from thr local gun range, he was not concealed carry, that is what I based my post on. If a person has a concealed carry license then they have to be extremely careful, but I would hope people with concealed carry are all about safety as most intelligent gun owners do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nativengine 10/05/17 2:27:16 PM #27:	Sativa_Rose posted... nativengine posted... Why in the blue hell was he cleaning a loaded gun? I was in Cabelas the other day and it's scary to see how many people who shouldn't be buying guns were there buying guns. Sure their background checks could be fine but sometimes people just don't realize just how dangerous a gun is. I worry about guns in the hands of the untrained as well The guys behind the counter were doing their jobs recommending weapons safety classes but those are just recommendations. It was just unsettling seeing a half dozen people holding guns so carelessly. I know they were unloaded but they had zero respect for a tool of death. --- Jive <cite>nativengine posted [p:887867326] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote>Why in the blue hell was he cleaning a loaded gun? I was in Cabelas the other day and it's scary to see how many people who shouldn't be buying guns were there buying guns. Sure their background checks could be fine but sometimes people just don't realize just how dangerous a gun is.</quote> I worry about guns in the hands of the untrained as well</quote> The guys behind the counter were doing their jobs recommending weapons safety classes but those are just recommendations. It was just unsettling seeing a half dozen people holding guns so carelessly. I know they were unloaded but they had zero respect for a tool of death.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BalisticWarri0r 10/05/17 2:30:20 PM #28:	Tropicalwood posted... BalisticWarri0r posted... This is a dumb post. Someone who has a conceal carry permit does not have to transport his firearm unloaded and locked up. If you treat all firearms as if they are loaded, you will never be in a position where you "accidently" discharge it. You're saying you should never check the gun to make sure it's loaded before transportation to and from the range, and cleaning. For example, a glock will require the trigger to be pulled, are you the type of person that wants to punch a hole through your wall while cleaning because "every gun is treated as if it is loaded, so why should it matter if it actually is" I lock and clear my firearms before handling them. Even when I pull them from my gun safe. When I conceal carry I always lock and clear my firearm before loading it. If your finger is on the trigger than you are an idiot and aren't performing proper weapon safety. Your finger SHOULD NOT be on the trigger unless 1. You are performing weapon maintenance in which case you locked and cleared the weapon first. 2. Performing dry drills in which case you lock and clear the weapon first. 3. Are at the range actively shooting in which case you should be locking and clearing according to range safety rules. At no time should you be handling a firearm without verifying that the weapon does or does not have rounds in the chamber. Transportation is irrelevant. <cite>BalisticWarri0r posted [p:887867508] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tropicalwood posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BalisticWarri0r posted...</cite> <quote>This is a dumb post. Someone who has a conceal carry permit does not have to transport his firearm unloaded and locked up. If you treat all firearms as if they are loaded, you will never be in a position where you "accidently" discharge it.</quote> You're saying you should never check the gun to make sure it's loaded before transportation to and from the range, and cleaning. For example, a glock will require the trigger to be pulled, are you the type of person that wants to punch a hole through your wall while cleaning because "every gun is treated as if it is loaded, so why should it matter if it actually is"</quote> I lock and clear my firearms before handling them. Even when I pull them from my gun safe. When I conceal carry I always lock and clear my firearm before loading it. If your finger is on the trigger than you are an idiot and aren't performing proper weapon safety. Your finger SHOULD NOT be on the trigger unless 1. You are performing weapon maintenance in which case you locked and cleared the weapon first. 2. Performing dry drills in which case you lock and clear the weapon first. 3. Are at the range actively shooting in which case you should be locking and clearing according to range safety rules. At no time should you be handling a firearm without verifying that the weapon does or does not have rounds in the chamber. Transportation is irrelevant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 10/05/17 2:30:38 PM #29:	nativengine posted... Sativa_Rose posted... nativengine posted... Why in the blue hell was he cleaning a loaded gun? I was in Cabelas the other day and it's scary to see how many people who shouldn't be buying guns were there buying guns. Sure their background checks could be fine but sometimes people just don't realize just how dangerous a gun is. I worry about guns in the hands of the untrained as well The guys behind the counter were doing their jobs recommending weapons safety classes but those are just recommendations. It was just unsettling seeing a half dozen people holding guns so carelessly. I know they were unloaded but they had zero respect for a tool of death. Yeah I feel you. --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:887867521] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nativengine posted...</cite> <quote>Why in the blue hell was he cleaning a loaded gun? I was in Cabelas the other day and it's scary to see how many people who shouldn't be buying guns were there buying guns. Sure their background checks could be fine but sometimes people just don't realize just how dangerous a gun is.</quote> I worry about guns in the hands of the untrained as well</quote> The guys behind the counter were doing their jobs recommending weapons safety classes but those are just recommendations. It was just unsettling seeing a half dozen people holding guns so carelessly. I know they were unloaded but they had zero respect for a tool of death.</quote> Yeah I feel you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 10/05/17 2:31:13 PM #30:	BalisticWarri0r posted... Tropicalwood posted... BalisticWarri0r posted... This is a dumb post. Someone who has a conceal carry permit does not have to transport his firearm unloaded and locked up. If you treat all firearms as if they are loaded, you will never be in a position where you "accidently" discharge it. You're saying you should never check the gun to make sure it's loaded before transportation to and from the range, and cleaning. For example, a glock will require the trigger to be pulled, are you the type of person that wants to punch a hole through your wall while cleaning because "every gun is treated as if it is loaded, so why should it matter if it actually is" I lock and clear my firearms before handling them. Even when I pull them from my gun safe. When I conceal carry I always lock and clear my firearm before loading it. If your finger is on the trigger than you are an idiot and aren't performing proper weapon safety. Your finger SHOULD NOT be on the trigger unless 1. You are performing weapon maintenance in which case you locked and cleared the weapon first. 2. Performing dry drills in which case you lock and clear the weapon first. 3. Are at the range actively shooting in which case you should be locking and clearing according to range safety rules. At no time should you be handling a firearm without verifying that the weapon does or does not have rounds in the chamber. Transportation is irrelevant. This man knows what he is talking about. --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:887867551] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote><cite>BalisticWarri0r posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tropicalwood posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BalisticWarri0r posted...</cite> <quote>This is a dumb post. Someone who has a conceal carry permit does not have to transport his firearm unloaded and locked up. If you treat all firearms as if they are loaded, you will never be in a position where you "accidently" discharge it.</quote> You're saying you should never check the gun to make sure it's loaded before transportation to and from the range, and cleaning. For example, a glock will require the trigger to be pulled, are you the type of person that wants to punch a hole through your wall while cleaning because "every gun is treated as if it is loaded, so why should it matter if it actually is"</quote> I lock and clear my firearms before handling them. Even when I pull them from my gun safe. When I conceal carry I always lock and clear my firearm before loading it. If your finger is on the trigger than you are an idiot and aren't performing proper weapon safety. Your finger SHOULD NOT be on the trigger unless 1. You are performing weapon maintenance in which case you locked and cleared the weapon first. 2. Performing dry drills in which case you lock and clear the weapon first. 3. Are at the range actively shooting in which case you should be locking and clearing according to range safety rules. At no time should you be handling a firearm without verifying that the weapon does or does not have rounds in the chamber. Transportation is irrelevant.</quote> This man knows what he is talking about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StucklnMyPants 10/05/17 2:31:14 PM #31:	I always clear a gun when I pick it up even if I just cleared it and sat it down right in front of me. This is a terrible situation and straight up negligence. Some people just don't respect firearms for their sheer destructive power. --- Rage, rage against the dying of the light. <cite>StucklnMyPants posted [p:887867552] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote>I always clear a gun when I pick it up even if I just cleared it and sat it down right in front of me. This is a terrible situation and straight up negligence. Some people just don't respect firearms for their sheer destructive power.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 10/05/17 2:31:41 PM #32:	E32005 posted... Death penalty Hell yeah. ^5 --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:887867579] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote><cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote>Death penalty</quote> Hell yeah. ^5</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 10/05/17 2:33:00 PM #33:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... E32005 posted... Death penalty Hell yeah. ^5 ... --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:887867651] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote>Death penalty</quote> Hell yeah. ^5</quote> ...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OpheliaAdenade 10/05/17 2:37:21 PM #35:	He's kinda cute... the stupid dad I mean --- http://imgur.com/Q6Qj55q <cite>OpheliaAdenade posted [p:887867875] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote>He's kinda cute... the stupid dad I mean</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 10/05/17 2:43:51 PM #36:	it amazes me the level of negligence that has to result in this happening 1) He was cleaning a loaded gun 2) The gun was pointing at his child Like what the fuck. --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:887868204] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote>it amazes me the level of negligence that has to result in this happening 1) He was cleaning a loaded gun 2) The gun was pointing at his child Like what the fuck.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leight_Weight 10/05/17 2:48:26 PM #37:	ITT: the word accident means nothing --- "Every man dies, but not every man truly lives." <cite>Leight_Weight posted [p:887868453] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote>ITT: the word accident means nothing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 10/05/17 2:48:47 PM #38:	A friend of mine used to work at a pawn shop, and he said they would have stupid people come in every day and set loaded guns on the counter wanting to pawn. He would always ask if it was loaded before actually checking, and 9/10 times they would tell him it was not. --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:887868472] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote>A friend of mine used to work at a pawn shop, and he said they would have stupid people come in every day and set loaded guns on the counter wanting to pawn. He would always ask if it was loaded before actually checking, and 9/10 times they would tell him it was not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EnragedSlith 10/05/17 2:48:54 PM #39:	LightHawKnight posted... Why would anyone clean a loaded gun? And why CPR for a gun shot? he didn't know what he was doing cardiac arrest due to trauma/blood loss is irreversible --- You gotta fly like an eagle and not.b... be like a turkey <cite>EnragedSlith posted [p:887868480] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote>Why would anyone clean a loaded gun? And why CPR for a gun shot?</quote> he didn't know what he was doing cardiac arrest due to trauma/blood loss is irreversible</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 10/05/17 2:50:32 PM #40:	Leight_Weight posted... ITT: the word accident means nothing accident does mean nothing when it's the result of overwhelming negligence. --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:887868561] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote><cite>Leight_Weight posted...</cite> <quote>ITT: the word accident means nothing</quote> accident does mean nothing when it's the result of overwhelming negligence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 10/05/17 2:54:46 PM #41:	responsible gun owners --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:887868800] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote>responsible gun owners</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pepys Monster 10/05/17 2:58:56 PM #42:	Tropicalwood posted... BalisticWarri0r posted... This is a dumb post. Someone who has a conceal carry permit does not have to transport his firearm unloaded and locked up. If you treat all firearms as if they are loaded, you will never be in a position where you "accidently" discharge it. You're saying you should never check the gun to make sure it's loaded before transportation to and from the range, and cleaning. For example, a glock will require the trigger to be pulled, are you the type of person that wants to punch a hole through your wall while cleaning because "every gun is treated as if it is loaded, so why should it matter if it actually is" Why do you keep saying "make sure it's loaded" instead of "make sure it's unloaded"? --- gr8 b8 m8 <cite>Pepys Monster posted [p:887869040] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tropicalwood posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BalisticWarri0r posted...</cite> <quote>This is a dumb post. Someone who has a conceal carry permit does not have to transport his firearm unloaded and locked up. If you treat all firearms as if they are loaded, you will never be in a position where you "accidently" discharge it.</quote> You're saying you should never check the gun to make sure it's loaded before transportation to and from the range, and cleaning. For example, a glock will require the trigger to be pulled, are you the type of person that wants to punch a hole through your wall while cleaning because "every gun is treated as if it is loaded, so why should it matter if it actually is"</quote> Why do you keep saying "make sure it's loaded" instead of "make sure it's unloaded"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 10/05/17 3:00:50 PM #43:	lol "accident" he knew what he was doing <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:887869162] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote>lol "accident" he knew what he was doing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SGT_Conti 10/05/17 3:02:49 PM #44:	How do you own a gun, the type of person who goes to a gun range and cleans their gun, and still not adhere to such basic rules of gun safety? There's, like, four of them, it's really not that hard. Leight_Weight posted... ITT: the word accident means nothing Accident is when you trip and drop the gun. This is negligence. It was completely and utterly avoidable. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>SGT_Conti posted [p:887869257] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote>How do you own a gun, the type of person who goes to a gun range and cleans their gun, and still not adhere to such basic rules of gun safety? There's, like, four of them, it's really not that hard. <cite>Leight_Weight posted...</cite> <quote>ITT: the word accident means nothing</quote> Accident is when you trip and drop the gun. This is negligence. It was completely and utterly avoidable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 10/05/17 3:14:39 PM #45:	Fam_Fam posted... lol "accident" he knew what he was doing wut --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:887869849] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fam_Fam posted...</cite> <quote>lol "accident" he knew what he was doing</quote> wut</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Feline_Heart 10/05/17 3:15:53 PM #46:	LightHawKnight posted... Why would anyone clean a loaded gun? And why CPR for a gun shot? They watched too much Red vs Blue --- Stay woke. <cite>Feline_Heart posted [p:887869925] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote>Why would anyone clean a loaded gun? And why CPR for a gun shot?</quote> They watched too much Red vs Blue</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bagamak 10/05/17 3:19:32 PM #48:	this happens ever year and it always gets in the news, but it still keeps happening. some people will never learn. or they think it can't happen to them. <cite>Bagamak posted [p:887870138] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote>this happens ever year and it always gets in the news, but it still keeps happening. some people will never learn. or they think it can't happen to them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mortimerjames 10/05/17 3:20:39 PM #49:	its clear what we have to do, get rid of cleaning --- Tell me the story about how people used to believe in the Bible - Future kid to their grandparents <cite>mortimerjames posted [p:887870209] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote>its clear what we have to do, get rid of cleaning</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 10/05/17 3:22:53 PM #50:	No charges? He shouldnt be allowed to own or getting near a gun at least. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:887870317] in Man accide... [t:75847401]...</cite> <quote>No charges? He shouldnt be allowed to own or getting near a gun at least.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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