Board 8 > MWC ranks the keyblade weilders..... (spoilers for all Kingdom Hearts)

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SSJBKK20Vegito 10/05/17 5:45:05 PM #1:	Ok... Right off the bat, might as well get this out of the way. I'm not ranking anyone from X/Union/Backcover etc. There are simply put too many (it is the war after all) and it enough feats. If anyone wants me to rank the Master of Master and his apprentices individually, I will try to do so. The other thing is this. I will probably mess up somewhere. Simply put the existence of Heart Sora, Data Sora, and Xion make this hard as hell to extrapolate. Finally. Xemnas will not be ranked. Reasoning here is easy enough. We never see him weild one, and no one else ever talks about it. It is assumed he can, but we don't know for sure. The other reason is this. He is stated by Word of God to be the strongest person in all of Kingdom Hearts. So if he has the keyblade he's auto #1, and if he doesn't he is immune from the list anyway. I've played (Platinumed in fact) the entire series again over the last 2 months. The story isn't as hard as people make it out to be, though it's not the most easily understood thing ever either. As with all KH topics, any questions at all even not related to topic at hand I will answer to best of ability. Thank god it's done by the way, I certainly don't want to swing another keyblade for a few months at least.... <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:887878576] in MWC ranks ... [t:75848100]...</cite> <quote>Ok... Right off the bat, might as well get this out of the way. I'm not ranking anyone from X/Union/Backcover etc. There are simply put too many (it is the war after all) and it enough feats. If anyone wants me to rank the Master of Master and his apprentices individually, I will try to do so. The other thing is this. I will probably mess up somewhere. Simply put the existence of Heart Sora, Data Sora, and Xion make this hard as hell to extrapolate. Finally. Xemnas will not be ranked. Reasoning here is easy enough. We never see him weild one, and no one else ever talks about it. It is assumed he can, but we don't know for sure. The other reason is this. He is stated by Word of God to be the strongest person in all of Kingdom Hearts. So if he has the keyblade he's auto #1, and if he doesn't he is immune from the list anyway. I've played (Platinumed in fact) the entire series again over the last 2 months. The story isn't as hard as people make it out to be, though it's not the most easily understood thing ever either. As with all KH topics, any questions at all even not related to topic at hand I will answer to best of ability. Thank god it's done by the way, I certainly don't want to swing another keyblade for a few months at least....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeryInsane 10/05/17 6:01:05 PM #2:	What is this username --- Warning: I'm literally VeryInsane. <cite>VeryInsane posted [p:887879562] in MWC ranks ... [t:75848100]...</cite> <quote>What is this username</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NFUN 10/05/17 6:02:39 PM #3:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW0wjcS7-00 KEYBLADE! --- Thus is our treaty written, thus is our agreement made. Thought is the arrow of time; memory never fades. What was asked is given; the price is paid. ARF <cite>NFUN posted [p:887879661] in MWC ranks ... [t:75848100]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW0wjcS7-00 KEYBLADE!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 10/05/17 6:09:42 PM #4:	This is not the ranking... just me listing them all. Sora Heart Sora Data Sora Riku Rikunort Kairi Roxas Roxas with very little of Sora's memories Roxas with Ventus's heart awakened Xion with very little of Sora's memories Xion with virtually all of Sora's memories Lea Ventus Vanitas Venitas Vanitas Lingering Will Terra Terra's Lingering Will Master Aqua Master Eraqus Master Xehanort Terranort Apprentice Xehanort Young Xehanort No Heart Armor of the Master Ventus Armor Nightmare Master Yensid King Mickey Master Mickey And finally, though I won't rank them, I will at least speak on Isa/Saix, Xigbar/Braig, and Xemnas. Double finally, though it hasn't happened yet, your life will be much improved if you just admit right here today that Namine is going to get a keyblade somehow, what with being part of Sora AND Kairi.... Get pissed now. That way you'll be less angry in KH III. If you notice anyone, or a form of them I missed (not like Drives) please let me know. <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:887880043] in MWC ranks ... [t:75848100]...</cite> <quote>This is not the ranking... just me listing them all. Sora Heart Sora Data Sora Riku Rikunort Kairi Roxas Roxas with very little of Sora's memories Roxas with Ventus's heart awakened Xion with very little of Sora's memories Xion with virtually all of Sora's memories Lea Ventus Vanitas Venitas Vanitas Lingering Will Terra Terra's Lingering Will Master Aqua Master Eraqus Master Xehanort Terranort Apprentice Xehanort Young Xehanort No Heart Armor of the Master Ventus Armor Nightmare Master Yensid King Mickey Master Mickey And finally, though I won't rank them, I will at least speak on Isa/Saix, Xigbar/Braig, and Xemnas. Double finally, though it hasn't happened yet, your life will be much improved if you just admit right here today that Namine is going to get a keyblade somehow, what with being part of Sora AND Kairi.... Get pissed now. That way you'll be less angry in KH III. If you notice anyone, or a form of them I missed (not like Drives) please let me know.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 10/05/17 6:12:04 PM #5:	VeryInsane posted... What is this username The strongest being to exist in all of fiction. <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:887880162] in MWC ranks ... [t:75848100]...</cite> <quote><cite>VeryInsane posted...</cite> <quote>What is this username</quote> The strongest being to exist in all of fiction.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket_pub 10/05/17 6:26:39 PM #6:	SSJBKK20Vegito posted... Ok... I've played (Platinumed in fact) the entire series again over the last 2 months. The story isn't as hard as people make it out to be, though it's not the most easily understood thing ever either. As with all KH topics, any questions at all even not related to topic at hand I will answer to best of ability. Thank god it's done by the way, I certainly don't want to swing another keyblade for a few months at least.... Would you say the story of Kingdom Hearts is easier or harder to understand than the story of Chrono Cross? And which story was presented better? Edit: In case it's not clear, by "Kingdom Hearts" I am referring to the entire series. --- Blasting off <cite>redrocket_pub posted [p:887881033] in MWC ranks ... [t:75848100]...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted...</cite> <quote>Ok... I've played (Platinumed in fact) the entire series again over the last 2 months. The story isn't as hard as people make it out to be, though it's not the most easily understood thing ever either. As with all KH topics, any questions at all even not related to topic at hand I will answer to best of ability. Thank god it's done by the way, I certainly don't want to swing another keyblade for a few months at least....</quote> Would you say the story of Kingdom Hearts is easier or harder to understand than the story of Chrono Cross? And which story was presented better? Edit: In case it's not clear, by "Kingdom Hearts" I am referring to the entire series.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 10/05/17 6:31:36 PM #7:	redrocket_pub posted... SSJBKK20Vegito posted... Ok... I've played (Platinumed in fact) the entire series again over the last 2 months. The story isn't as hard as people make it out to be, though it's not the most easily understood thing ever either. As with all KH topics, any questions at all even not related to topic at hand I will answer to best of ability. Thank god it's done by the way, I certainly don't want to swing another keyblade for a few months at least.... Would you say the story of Kingdom Hearts is easier or harder to understand than the story of Chrono Cross? And which story was presented better? KH is written better (3D not withstanding..) and presented much better (3D would be the exception here). I personally belive KH is easier than CC to understand just because almost any thing remotely difficult in KH is Xehanort. CC was screwed up everywhere (time travel of course) <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:887881324] in MWC ranks ... [t:75848100]...</cite> <quote><cite>redrocket_pub posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted...</cite> <quote>Ok... I've played (Platinumed in fact) the entire series again over the last 2 months. The story isn't as hard as people make it out to be, though it's not the most easily understood thing ever either. As with all KH topics, any questions at all even not related to topic at hand I will answer to best of ability. Thank god it's done by the way, I certainly don't want to swing another keyblade for a few months at least....</quote> Would you say the story of Kingdom Hearts is easier or harder to understand than the story of Chrono Cross? And which story was presented better?</quote> KH is written better (3D not withstanding..) and presented much better (3D would be the exception here). I personally belive KH is easier than CC to understand just because almost any thing remotely difficult in KH is Xehanort. CC was screwed up everywhere (time travel of course)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket_pub 10/05/17 6:31:55 PM #8:	SSJBKK20Vegito posted... VeryInsane posted... What is this username The strongest being to exist in all of fiction. Isn't Zeno still stronger? --- Blasting off <cite>redrocket_pub posted [p:887881337] in MWC ranks ... [t:75848100]...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VeryInsane posted...</cite> <quote>What is this username</quote> The strongest being to exist in all of fiction.</quote> Isn't Zeno still stronger?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NFUN 10/05/17 6:33:59 PM #9:	SSJBKK20Vegito posted... VeryInsane posted... What is this username The strongest being to exist in all of fiction. What about God? --- Thus is our treaty written, thus is our agreement made. Thought is the arrow of time; memory never fades. What was asked is given; the price is paid. ARF <cite>NFUN posted [p:887881443] in MWC ranks ... [t:75848100]...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VeryInsane posted...</cite> <quote>What is this username</quote> The strongest being to exist in all of fiction.</quote> What about God?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 10/05/17 6:37:36 PM #10:	redrocket_pub posted... SSJBKK20Vegito posted... VeryInsane posted... What is this username The strongest being to exist in all of fiction. Isn't Zeno still stronger? Zeno is quite weak which I think has been made clear the last few months that he's not a fighter, he can just destroy anything instantly. Gamma Burst Flash from standard Vegeta was able to take Merged Zamasu apart. SSJB Vegito alone using Gamma Kamehameha would probably kill Zeno, the Grand Priest (the actual strong guy) and his guards. Multiplying that power by 20 howver, no one would stand any chance at all. <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:887881627] in MWC ranks ... [t:75848100]...</cite> <quote><cite>redrocket_pub posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VeryInsane posted...</cite> <quote>What is this username</quote> The strongest being to exist in all of fiction.</quote> Isn't Zeno still stronger?</quote> Zeno is quite weak which I think has been made clear the last few months that he's not a fighter, he can just destroy anything instantly. Gamma Burst Flash from standard Vegeta was able to take Merged Zamasu apart. SSJB Vegito alone using Gamma Kamehameha would probably kill Zeno, the Grand Priest (the actual strong guy) and his guards. Multiplying that power by 20 howver, no one would stand any chance at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mcflubbin 10/05/17 6:46:32 PM #11:	I read the topic title as beyblade wielders and am now disappointed --- It's not so impossible! <cite>mcflubbin posted [p:887882102] in MWC ranks ... [t:75848100]...</cite> <quote>I read the topic title as beyblade wielders and am now disappointed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket_pub 10/05/17 6:47:39 PM #12:	Are you officially no longer using "SSJGSSJ" --- Blasting off <cite>redrocket_pub posted [p:887882162] in MWC ranks ... [t:75848100]...</cite> <quote>Are you officially no longer using "SSJGSSJ"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 10/05/17 6:50:29 PM #13:	redrocket_pub posted... Are you officially no longer using "SSJGSSJ" Can't fit it in a name.... Anyway. It has now been multiple arcs in the anime and manga of this... so I guess they are staying with blue (stupid) I will probably use both. But the further it goes the more I'll have to use Blue as more new people watch the show and have no idea what SSJGSSJ even is.... :( <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:887882308] in MWC ranks ... [t:75848100]...</cite> <quote><cite>redrocket_pub posted...</cite> <quote>Are you officially no longer using "SSJGSSJ"</quote> Can't fit it in a name.... Anyway. It has now been multiple arcs in the anime and manga of this... so I guess they are staying with blue (stupid) I will probably use both. But the further it goes the more I'll have to use Blue as more new people watch the show and have no idea what SSJGSSJ even is.... :(</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackDra90n 10/05/17 7:02:35 PM #14:	I recently watched Back Cover and I'm curious to know your thoughts/ideas on Master of Master and Luxu in KH3. --- http://psnprofiles.com/Drayxs <cite>BlackDra90n posted [p:887882985] in MWC ranks ... [t:75848100]...</cite> <quote>I recently watched Back Cover and I'm curious to know your thoughts/ideas on Master of Master and Luxu in KH3.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 10/05/17 7:21:02 PM #15:	BlackDra90n posted... I recently watched Back Cover and I'm curious to know your thoughts/ideas on Master of Master and Luxu in KH3. I believe it has been stated that MoM won't be in it. But not like they can't change their mind before the game comes out in 2023, As for Luxu.. I personally belive that the box he has is the key to KH itself. And the number of locks opened by the hearts of the team of light and team of darkness. I belive when Xehanort is about to succeed he will be betrayed by Xemnas and Young Xehanort (who have both been shown in multiple scenes to have motives which maybe aren't completely in line with Master Xehanort and his other parts) along with Luxu, and that will lead to Xemnas himself getting the X-blade, and being the final string of fights for one heck of a surprise. Luxu will escape and all the forms of Xehanort (cept maybe Isa/Saix) will die in the Keyblade Graveyard/Badlands. <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:887883998] in MWC ranks ... [t:75848100]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackDra90n posted...</cite> <quote>I recently watched Back Cover and I'm curious to know your thoughts/ideas on Master of Master and Luxu in KH3.</quote> I believe it has been stated that MoM won't be in it. But not like they can't change their mind before the game comes out in 2023, As for Luxu.. I personally belive that the box he has is the key to KH itself. And the number of locks opened by the hearts of the team of light and team of darkness. I belive when Xehanort is about to succeed he will be betrayed by Xemnas and Young Xehanort (who have both been shown in multiple scenes to have motives which maybe aren't completely in line with Master Xehanort and his other parts) along with Luxu, and that will lead to Xemnas himself getting the X-blade, and being the final string of fights for one heck of a surprise. Luxu will escape and all the forms of Xehanort (cept maybe Isa/Saix) will die in the Keyblade Graveyard/Badlands.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 10/06/17 7:05:43 PM #16:	Bump <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:887945521] in MWC ranks ... [t:75848100]...</cite> <quote>Bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BK_Sheikah00 10/06/17 7:14:43 PM #17:	Finish the boss fight ranking instead --- Singing my song for my dream http://i.imgur.com/v58wdlU.png <cite>BK_Sheikah00 posted [p:887945976] in MWC ranks ... [t:75848100]...</cite> <quote>Finish the boss fight ranking instead</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 10/06/17 7:19:16 PM #18:	BK_Sheikah00 R... Finish the boss fight ranking instead I'm going to do both. (And others) Starting the boss one back up today or tomorrow. After finishing the replay it's a bit more definitive. <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:887946213] in MWC ranks ... [t:75848100]...</cite> <quote><cite>BK_Sheikah00 R...</cite> <quote>Finish the boss fight ranking instead</quote> I'm going to do both. (And others) Starting the boss one back up today or tomorrow. After finishing the replay it's a bit more definitive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 10/07/17 11:42:13 AM #19:	Bump to keep this alive and also say I started the bosses topic. <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:887979392] in MWC ranks ... [t:75848100]...</cite> <quote>Bump to keep this alive and also say I started the bosses topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 10/07/17 7:03:06 PM #20:	#32... Namine. Getting this out of the way just in case, for when she does get a Blade. She is Kairi's Nobody (bequeathed a Keyblade by a Master) that was made when her heart was released from Sora's body. Sora was of course chosen by the Keyblade. She would also potentially have access to Ven's Heart if Roxas is anytbing to go by. If they want they have every reason in the world to give her one. I'm not saying they should, just if they do they can. Howver if they do she would be unquestionably the weakest, having no heart of her own yet, or even a body to grow one, nor would she have any experience with the blade. Hence why I can reasonably put her here and not screw up the ranking. <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:888000622] in MWC ranks ... [t:75848100]...</cite> <quote>#32... Namine. Getting this out of the way just in case, for when she does get a Blade. She is Kairi's Nobody (bequeathed a Keyblade by a Master) that was made when her heart was released from Sora's body. Sora was of course chosen by the Keyblade. She would also potentially have access to Ven's Heart if Roxas is anytbing to go by. If they want they have every reason in the world to give her one. I'm not saying they should, just if they do they can. Howver if they do she would be unquestionably the weakest, having no heart of her own yet, or even a body to grow one, nor would she have any experience with the blade. Hence why I can reasonably put her here and not screw up the ranking.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NFUN 10/07/17 7:04:14 PM #21:	Keyblade! --- Thus is our treaty written, thus is our agreement made. Thought is the arrow of time; memory never fades. What was asked is given; the price is paid. ARF <cite>NFUN posted [p:888000679] in MWC ranks ... [t:75848100]...</cite> <quote>Keyblade!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 10/08/17 10:23:56 PM #22:	Bump <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:888072446] in MWC ranks ... [t:75848100]...</cite> <quote>Bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 10/10/17 11:10:48 AM #23:	NFUN posted... Keyblade! Keyberadu. <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:888163539] in MWC ranks ... [t:75848100]...</cite> <quote><cite>NFUN posted...</cite> <quote>Keyblade!</quote> Keyberadu.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AquaArcane 10/10/17 11:37:28 AM #24:	The fact that they even brought back the human forms of the Organization is pretty ridiculous. Like, I get it, Axel was really popular, but for fuck's sake, why bring him back as Axel when he's actually Lea. Why doesn't he look like Lea. Why does he look like Axel. Why didn't they all just kill each other so they could come back as human if they wanted hearts so bad I love Kingdom Hearts btw --- You can keep me. <cite>AquaArcane posted [p:888164845] in MWC ranks ... [t:75848100]...</cite> <quote>The fact that they even brought back the human forms of the Organization is pretty ridiculous. Like, I get it, Axel was really popular, but for fuck's sake, why bring him back as Axel when he's actually Lea. Why doesn't he look like Lea. Why does he look like Axel. Why didn't they all just kill each other so they could come back as human if they wanted hearts so bad I love Kingdom Hearts btw</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 10/10/17 12:47:02 PM #25:	AquaArcane posted... The fact that they even brought back the human forms of the Organization is pretty ridiculous. Like, I get it, Axel was really popular, but for fuck's sake, why bring him back as Axel when he's actually Lea. Why doesn't he look like Lea. Why does he look like Axel. Why didn't they all just kill each other so they could come back as human if they wanted hearts so bad I love Kingdom Hearts btw He doesn't have the tear drops. That's the difference. Most Nobodies look virtually EXACTLY like their somebody, with very slight differences. Namine, Xemnas and Roxas are the exceptions because the way Sora and Ansem became heartless (and Kairi's was lost) is unique, Look at Zexion for instance. He looks identical except 11 years older. And I don't think any of them knew if a Nobody and Heartless were killed they'd become Somebodies again... and even if they did, they have no way of knowing if their Heartless was defeated, since except Ansem none of them kept a human body. So they could be any random Shadow, Neo Shadow, Darkball, or Invisible (I think that's the only purebloods before 0.2 came along). It's not a very smart plan on their part. <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:888168616] in MWC ranks ... [t:75848100]...</cite> <quote><cite>AquaArcane posted...</cite> <quote>The fact that they even brought back the human forms of the Organization is pretty ridiculous. Like, I get it, Axel was really popular, but for fuck's sake, why bring him back as Axel when he's actually Lea. Why doesn't he look like Lea. Why does he look like Axel. Why didn't they all just kill each other so they could come back as human if they wanted hearts so bad I love Kingdom Hearts btw</quote> He doesn't have the tear drops. That's the difference. Most Nobodies look virtually EXACTLY like their somebody, with very slight differences. Namine, Xemnas and Roxas are the exceptions because the way Sora and Ansem became heartless (and Kairi's was lost) is unique, Look at Zexion for instance. He looks identical except 11 years older. And I don't think any of them knew if a Nobody and Heartless were killed they'd become Somebodies again... and even if they did, they have no way of knowing if their Heartless was defeated, since except Ansem none of them kept a human body. So they could be any random Shadow, Neo Shadow, Darkball, or Invisible (I think that's the only purebloods before 0.2 came along). It's not a very smart plan on their part.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 10/10/17 2:41:01 PM #26:	#31: Kairi. Look, I don't want to put Kairi dead last. None of you want me to put Kairi dead last, and that's all because it's quite damn obvious with the end of DDD that she won't remotely be dead last. But I can't rank on future, and as it is, I just can't see anyway that if the people we've seen, or even just heard about, she isn't the weakest shown yet. Maybe she could have one hit KO'd Xemnas. We don't know. All we've seen from her so far is killing a couple shadows. It is true Yensid wants to train her specifically, so I'm sure she's really strong, but we didn't get to see it. (Really lame that Xemnas blocked Kairi and Mickey from the final fight, would have been awesome to have 4 KB weilders and Donald and Goofy there) YET. She's a Princess of Heart, so she should have even better light powers than Roxas, and she'll be one of the 7 Guardians of Light as well, so guaranteed she'll be at least close to Sora's level at end game of III. <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:888175091] in MWC ranks ... [t:75848100]...</cite> <quote>#31: Kairi. Look, I don't want to put Kairi dead last. None of you want me to put Kairi dead last, and that's all because it's quite damn obvious with the end of DDD that she won't remotely be dead last. But I can't rank on future, and as it is, I just can't see anyway that if the people we've seen, or even just heard about, she isn't the weakest shown yet. Maybe she could have one hit KO'd Xemnas. We don't know. All we've seen from her so far is killing a couple shadows. It is true Yensid wants to train her specifically, so I'm sure she's really strong, but we didn't get to see it. (Really lame that Xemnas blocked Kairi and Mickey from the final fight, would have been awesome to have 4 KB weilders and Donald and Goofy there) YET. She's a Princess of Heart, so she should have even better light powers than Roxas, and she'll be one of the 7 Guardians of Light as well, so guaranteed she'll be at least close to Sora's level at end game of III.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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