Current Events > Shadow of War Hides True Ending Behind Tedious Grind & Loot Boxes

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-61uMtjcSz0

tl;dr

It's not just postgame content. While the main plot of Shadow of War wraps up in relatively tidy fashion before act four begins, Monolith has confirmed that there is a "true ending" hidden behind Shadow Wars. I love the idea of offering dozens of hours of grindy yet fun content for players who adore this game to sink their teeth into. But that works better as an option rather than a looming obligation for completionists. Having the game's real finale locked away behind these dozens of hours -- hours that, while fun, are devoid of story missions, side quests, cutscenes or other distractions that help mix up the pace -- is a disappointment.

When you run out of in game money, you have two choices: Make a huge time investment by hunting down orcs in yoru game world and earning chests via vendetta missions, or spend some real money to get powerful orcs you need now. Does the game ever force you to spend money? No. I'm sure you can get to the end of Shadow Wars without spending a dime, as long as you're patient and persistent. But locking progress through this mode (and, again, towards the game's true ending) behind either spending more money or doing tons of tedious busywork feels at least greedy if not predatory.

I know most were already boycotting the game, but this is finally sealing the deal for me. I really loved Shadow of Mordor too, but I don't have time to do this bullshit and I'm not paying money.
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This sounds like a disaster.

Main game story is shit, true ending grind is 4x the length of main story.

Nobody should buy this shit.
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sigh.... this is why I play less and less of these modern AAA games.

People were defending these loot boxes lmao
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I tried.
He sounds like a prat.

Fuck WB, not buying this even though I loved the first one
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Blue_Inigo posted...

People were defending these loot boxes lmao

Well just a statement saying loot boxes exist in a game doesn't mean much. A lot of games have loot boxes and the ones that work well don't have an impact on gameplay.

Now that there's more information it's easy to see that this is not the case of well done loot boxes.
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This is why you always wait for GOTY editions
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Tmaster148 posted...

Blue_Inigo posted...

People were defending these loot boxes lmao

Well just a statement saying loot boxes exist in a game doesn't mean much. A lot of games have loot boxes and the ones that work well don't have an impact on gameplay.

Now that there's more information it's easy to see that this is not the case of well done loot boxes.

Loot boxes in a fucking single player game was a pretty big red flag bro
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Shadow Wars
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I didn't think the loot boxes were a big deal because it all seemed optional but this is pretty shitty. I canceled my preorder a while back, though, so they weren't gonna get my money to begin with.
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Blue_Inigo posted...

Tmaster148 posted...

Blue_Inigo posted...

People were defending these loot boxes lmao

Well just a statement saying loot boxes exist in a game doesn't mean much. A lot of games have loot boxes and the ones that work well don't have an impact on gameplay.

Now that there's more information it's easy to see that this is not the case of well done loot boxes.

Loot boxes in a fucking single player game was a pretty big red flag bro

Well I was very skeptical of single player microtransactions being well done, but I try to avoid getting on an early bandwagon of hate cuz a lot of people do like to overreact over microtransactions.
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everything about this game is embarrassing

from the self-insert nonsense to this
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Ugh this guy.

nbda3A4eWFR2 posted...

I tried.
He sounds like a prat.

yeah
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Tmaster148 posted...

Blue_Inigo posted...

Tmaster148 posted...

Blue_Inigo posted...

People were defending these loot boxes lmao

Well just a statement saying loot boxes exist in a game doesn't mean much. A lot of games have loot boxes and the ones that work well don't have an impact on gameplay.

Now that there's more information it's easy to see that this is not the case of well done loot boxes.

Loot boxes in a fucking single player game was a pretty big red flag bro

Well I was very skeptical of single player microtransactions being well done, but I try to avoid getting on an early bandwagon of hate cuz a lot of people do like to overreact over microtransactions.

In my opinion, microtransactions have no place in any 60 dollar game
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already decided not to buy it once I heard about the microtransactions
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That is garbage, and I'm glad I'm not supporting this game.

"But it's optional content! You don't _have_ to do it."

Fuck off with that tripe.
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Coming soon to a Red Dead game near you

Axiom posted...

Coming soon to a Red Dead game near you

Buy Railroad Bonds to import any paid DLC vehicle from GTAV to your stable!

*vehicle must be repurchased to be activated in addition to transfer fee, vehicle will be removed from GTAV garage and will need to be repurchased with a 25% penalty cost*
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Axiom posted...

Coming soon to a Red Dead game near you

I have the game pre-ordered for $50 (reg price $80), but I'm keenly looking forward to new info and tidbits that come out.
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I could care less if Red Dead Online has this shit, but if the single player does Rockstar will be dead to me.
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Alucard188 posted...

Axiom posted...

Coming soon to a Red Dead game near you

I have the game pre-ordered for $50 (reg price $80), but I'm keenly looking forward to new info and tidbits that come out.

I'll be getting it even if they revealed something similar but I really wouldn't be surprised if they tried to implement micros into it more than they already have. I'll also probably get this game tbh though at a heavy discount (Under $10) like I did the first one since it's not a game series I'm hyped about

Fucking ridiculous. SoM turned out to be a sleeper hit and the shit went completely to their heads. Now they come out with all this penny pinching bullshit.

Compared to Arkham Asylum which was also a sleeper hit that led to the amazing Arkham City.

Don't feel like gaming anymore with all these incomplete/half assed games anymore.
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DoctorVader posted...

Compared to Arkham Asylum which was also a sleeper hit that led to the amazing Arkham City.

Those lead to Arkham Origins and Arkham Knight, though.
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DoctorVader posted...

Don't feel like gaming anymore with all these incomplete/half assed games anymore.

At least with some rare exceptions Nintendo hasn't gone this far yet.

Swagnificent119 posted...

Those lead to Arkham Origins and Arkham Knight, though.

Both excellent games.
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Banjo2553 posted...

At least with some rare exceptions Nintendo hasn't gone this far yet.

Amiibos tho
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grinding is better (even if it takes 100 hour game).
at least one could cut one giant session into multiple smaller sessions.

my strategy works well.
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I've already pre-ordered it. So I'll bite the bullet and see how it's going to be next week.
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Banjo2553 posted...

Both excellent games.

Maybe by todays WB standars, I guess.

They didn't have loot boxes so that's a plus,
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Swagnificent119 posted...

Banjo2553 posted...

At least with some rare exceptions Nintendo hasn't gone this far yet.

Amiibos tho

The worst they've done with that is locking optional stuff behind them. The moment they make it to where you'll need an amiibo as a form of microtransactions or locking an entire ending behind them is when I'll cry bullshit.
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i can give you guys the true ending rn if you want. it got leaked. like seriously dont hover below if you dont want serious spoilers.
Talion becomes one of the Nazgl and Celebrimbor fuses with Sauron and becomes the Eye that sits atop Barad-dr.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsEVWzfQ-7o.
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Banjo2553 posted...

The worst they've done with that is locking optional stuff behind them. The moment they make it to where you'll need an amiibo as a form of microtransactions or locking an entire ending behind them is when I'll cry bulls***.

Metroid Returns has an entire gameplay mode locked behind Amiibos.

And didn't you basically need Amiibos for the Animal Crossing game?
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lol if that ending is true than fuck this game even harder.
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Lol AAA games
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Reminder: A powerful Orc dlc wasmade to honour a developer of the game, who passed away before its release.

This memorial was made to be paid dlc at first, with not even 100% of funds going to charity.

It was only made free after a large backlash came after WB. Like Jesus, man.....
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Swagnificent119 posted...

lol if that ending is true than fuck this game even harder.

the theme of the game is that desire for power corrupts. they try to take on sauron and get one shotted. it's pretty fitting.
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Back_Stabbath posted...

Swagnificent119 posted...

lol if that ending is true than fuck this game even harder.

the theme of the game is that desire for power corrupts. they try to take on sauron and get one shotted. it's pretty fitting.

I mean, I don't think anyone expected a good ending if they know anything about LOTR

But grinding for dozens of hours for that?
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Swagnificent119 posted...

Banjo2553 posted...

The worst they've done with that is locking optional stuff behind them. The moment they make it to where you'll need an amiibo as a form of microtransactions or locking an entire ending behind them is when I'll cry bulls***.

Metroid Returns has an entire gameplay mode locked behind Amiibos.

And didn't you basically need Amiibos for the Animal Crossing game?

The Metroid one was pretty bad, but it was still optional. Not necessary to beat the game.

The Animal Crossing one...I feel that's different since it's marketed strictly as an amiibo game. Sorta like the Skylanders-esque games.
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Banjo2553 posted...

The Metroid one was pretty bad, but it was still optional. Not necessary to beat the game.

The Animal Crossing one...I feel that's different since it's marketed strictly as an amiibo game. Sorta like the Skylanders-esque games.

lol okay
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If they go down that route then what would the 3rd hopefully final game be?

I'm still getting this game next week, and I'm going to see how it turns out. I don't mind grinding. Specially with this game because I played SoM a shit ton after I beat it. I was pretty much the Krombopulos Michael of the game. I just enjoy killing.
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Swagnificent119 posted...

Banjo2553 posted...

The Metroid one was pretty bad, but it was still optional. Not necessary to beat the game.

The Animal Crossing one...I feel that's different since it's marketed strictly as an amiibo game. Sorta like the Skylanders-esque games.

lol okay

I mean, I'm not trying to defend Nintendo with everything they do.
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Game Has 100% Completion Ending, Idiots Can Pay For the Game to Hand It to Them
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For how ridiculous this ending sounds, it should have been some goofy non canon ending where they actually defeated Sauron or something

you know, kind of like how MGS V has that we disarmed all the nukes! ending that nobody has managed to get legit yet.
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I remember the good old days of PC game expansions that actually added a lot of great new content to the game. Expansions like Tales of the Sword Coast and Throne of Bhaal were were rule instead of the exception.
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I remember when games didn't need a ton of patches. Granted, even the best games back then had issues. Mario 64 had tons of camera problems, other glitches. Just that we didn't have the Internet to complain about it. You bought/rented a game. You ignored the glitches and then moved on with your life.

Now it's like people complain about everything on the internet. I blame social media and yelp. Also, lazy developers..
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Its too bad, its probably a good game overall, but the way devs handle stuff like this can really ruin a game. Especially stuff like in-your-face micro transactions, that's just annoying.

wolverinev2 posted...

I remember when games didn't need a ton of patches.

The oldest games I've played were Fallout and X-COM and there's a reason there are fanpatches and workarounds. People seem to have this impression that old games were shipped with no issues but it's more that there was no easy way to distribute a patch.
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bump
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hockeybub89 posted...

Game Has 100% Completion Ending, Idiots Can Pay For the Game to Hand It to Them

Of course you'd defend this garbage
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