Current Events > It's interesting how media skews the perspective of events (like terror attacks)

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pinky0926
10/07/17 10:59:27 AM
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My brother asked me on the phone what it was like in London, i.e. did it feel like a warzone, were people not going out at night, not going to concerts, was there a general state of fear and panic and hatred, etc.

That was such a weird question to me because things have not changed at all. London is so big that when 3 people get killed in a terror attack it's honestly hardly any more frightening than the case of the 5 people who got stabbed or mugged in the borough over from you.

Honestly people are still mostly frightened because of the Grenfall fire incident, and how many more buildings are just like it.

You walk around in London and to be honest you're in a semi-wary state half the time anyway. Just the kind of wariness of being in a big city with a lot of strange people doing weird stuff.

So yeah, if your image of London is some kind of Iraq muslim hellhole at the moment you're way off the mark.
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NeverOffended
10/07/17 11:06:02 AM
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Aren't you constantly posting topics doing the same thing about the US despite you living halfway across the world and never being here once in your life?
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FLUFFYGERM
10/07/17 11:07:50 AM
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do you think all of that applies in france

like after the attack at the bataclan or the truck attack in nice

also your post sounds suspiciously like what your mayor said when he tried to normalize terror attacks in cities
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josifrees
10/07/17 11:08:23 AM
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NeverOffended posted...
Aren't you constantly posting topics doing the same thing about the US despite you living halfway across the world and never being here once in your life?


Except everyone in London isnt walking around with automatic weapons
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FLUFFYGERM
10/07/17 11:09:04 AM
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josifrees posted...
NeverOffended posted...
Aren't you constantly posting topics doing the same thing about the US despite you living halfway across the world and never being here once in your life?


Except everyone in London isnt walking around with automatic weapons


everyone in America isn't walking around with automatic weapons
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NeverOffended
10/07/17 11:12:17 AM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
josifrees posted...
NeverOffended posted...
Aren't you constantly posting topics doing the same thing about the US despite you living halfway across the world and never being here once in your life?


Except everyone in London isnt walking around with automatic weapons


everyone in America isn't walking around with automatic weapons


@josifrees did a great job confirming the topic title lol
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pinky0926
10/07/17 11:17:25 AM
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NeverOffended posted...
Aren't you constantly posting topics doing the same thing about the US despite you living halfway across the world and never being here once in your life?


I keep my commentary generally to what I understand is happening on the political spectrum of things, which is not what this topic is about. I think Americans making political commentary on the UK is completely fair, but if someone is going to picture a dramatised version of events on the ground I'm going to correct them.

FLUFFYGERM posted...
do you think all of that applies in france

like after the attack at the bataclan or the truck attack in nice

also your post sounds suspiciously like what your mayor said when he tried to normalize terror attacks in cities


I wouldn't know what France is like at the moment, I haven't been in a while.

And no I'm not trying to normalise terror attacks, just commenting on how little they've managed to effect day to day life. That should be an encouraging thing, not a point of criticism.
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NINExATExSEVEN
10/07/17 11:18:00 AM
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You people in western Europe are sick in the head. You have terrorist attacks constantly and instead of condemning the reason why these attacks happen constantly, you instead become apologists and sweep it all under the rug until it becomes normalized.

"Oh it's just a terrorist attack, no big deal because some other random incident non terror related also happened somewhere!" - western Europe

No other countries in the world outside of western Europe are going to tolerate their people being harmed. You guys suffer from severe mental issues.
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pinky0926
10/07/17 11:19:16 AM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
You people in western Europe are sick in the head. You have terrorist attacks constantly and instead of condemning the reason why these attacks happen constantly, you instead become apologists and sweep it all under the rug until it becomes normalized.

"Oh it's just a terrorist attack, no big deal because some other random incident non terror related also happened somewhere!" - western Europe

No other countries in the world outside of western Europe are going to tolerate their people being harmed. You guys suffer from severe mental issues.


None of which I just did. Maybe calm down a little and consider what I wrote objectively and see if any of that means I'm apologising for and refusing to condemn terrorism.
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Fishy
10/07/17 11:21:00 AM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
do you think all of that applies in france

like after the attack at the bataclan or the truck attack in nice

also your post sounds suspiciously like what your mayor said when he tried to normalize terror attacks in cities

Part and Parcel of Living in a Big City says Mayor of the Only City Where This Regularly Happens
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RebelElite791
10/07/17 11:21:16 AM
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At least in murrica that's less "the media" and more "the far right"

See NINE for example
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Turtlebread
10/07/17 11:21:36 AM
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You people in america are sick in the head. You have mass shooting attacks constantly and instead of condemning the reason why these attacks happen constantly, you instead become apologists and sweep it all under the rug until it becomes normalized.

"Oh it's just a mass shooting, no big deal because some other random incident terror related also happened somewhere!" - america
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RebelElite791
10/07/17 11:22:36 AM
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Turtlebread posted...
You people in america are sick in the head. You have mass shooting attacks constantly and instead of condemning the reason why these attacks happen constantly, you instead become apologists and sweep it all under the rug until it becomes normalized.

"Oh it's just a mass shooting, no big deal because some other random incident terror related also happened somewhere!" - america

BOOM
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FLUFFYGERM
10/07/17 11:24:03 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
And no I'm not trying to normalise terror attacks, just commenting on how little they've managed to effect day to day life. That should be an encouraging thing, not a point of criticism.


i literally said the same thing about mass shootings in my topic about why gun rights are important. how come that didn't convince you then

Turtlebread posted...
You people in america are sick in the head. You have mass shooting attacks constantly and instead of condemning the reason why these attacks happen constantly, you instead become apologists and sweep it all under the rug until it becomes normalized.

"Oh it's just a mass shooting, no big deal because some other random incident terror related also happened somewhere!" - america


people in america condemn all mass shootings. we bring up terrorist attacks as evidence that mass shootings and mass killings won't go away just because you take away a citizen's right to self-defense / property defense.
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FLUFFYGERM
10/07/17 11:24:33 AM
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RebelElite791 posted...
Turtlebread posted...
You people in america are sick in the head. You have mass shooting attacks constantly and instead of condemning the reason why these attacks happen constantly, you instead become apologists and sweep it all under the rug until it becomes normalized.

"Oh it's just a mass shooting, no big deal because some other random incident terror related also happened somewhere!" - america

BOOM


oh plz, put more effort into that. you shouldn't be so easily impressed by that lazy and sloppy thinking
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Turtlebread
10/07/17 11:26:15 AM
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people in western europe condemn all terrorist attacks
duh
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Akagami_Shanks
10/07/17 11:27:56 AM
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America pretty much has no right to talk about terror in other countries tbh.

People are quick to jump to "it's terrorism" as soon as its found out that the person who did it isn't white, but "Let's find out what made him tick" when the person is white.

That image of T_D before and after the Vegas shooter identity was perfect
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pinky0926
10/07/17 11:28:43 AM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
i literally said the same thing about mass shootings in my topic about why gun rights are important. how come that didn't convince you then


Because that would require my thinking in this case to follow like this: "Not many people have actually died of terrorist incidents in the UK, therefore it's not a big deal and nothing needs to change".

That's not how I think though. My attitude is more like "I'm glad that not many people are directly effected by terrorist incidents in the UK, but it's still wholly unacceptable it happens at all and things need to change".
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pinky0926
10/07/17 11:31:42 AM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
That image of T_D before and after the Vegas shooter identity was perfect


This?
Qve6y9F

Haha, god it's not even funny
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NINExATExSEVEN
10/07/17 11:43:00 AM
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RebelElite791 posted...
Turtlebread posted...
You people in america are sick in the head. You have mass shooting attacks constantly and instead of condemning the reason why these attacks happen constantly, you instead become apologists and sweep it all under the rug until it becomes normalized.

"Oh it's just a mass shooting, no big deal because some other random incident terror related also happened somewhere!" - america

BOOM


You think this is an argument? You think it's comparable to say that a domestic problem in America is the same as a problem that's IMPORTED into Europe?

How clueless are you? We always had guns in America. It was part of our culture since the beginning. It's a domestic problem that needs to be fixed.

Europe on the other hand is IMPORTING their problems. They can choose to stop it by not importing it anymore. Islamic terrorism didn't exist in Europe until mass immigration from parts of the world that have issues with radical Islam started.

Why does this have to be pointed out?
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The Great Muta 22
10/07/17 11:49:08 AM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Islamic terrorism didn't exist in Europe until mass immigration from parts of the world that have issues with radical Islam started.


ITP the early 2000's train bombings weren't a thing
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pinky0926
10/07/17 11:50:40 AM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Europe on the other hand is IMPORTING their problems. They can choose to stop it by not importing it anymore. Islamic terrorism didn't exist in Europe until mass immigration from parts of the world that have issues with radical Islam started.

Why does this have to be pointed out?


Islamic terrorism didn't exist in Europe until we all collectively started blowing up the middle east, but that's by the by.

And whether the problem is domestic or imported, the point they were making is simply that complacency is not merely a european trait. That was something you implied in your original post.
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Fossil
10/07/17 11:52:12 AM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
You people in western Europe are sick in the head. You have terrorist attacks constantly and instead of condemning the reason why these attacks happen constantly, you instead become apologists and sweep it all under the rug until it becomes normalized.

Did you really just blame him for something completely out of his control? lmao, speaking of sick in the head...

ps - condeming something doesn't stop it. news at 5
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EverDownward
10/07/17 12:03:48 PM
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Turtlebread posted...
You people in america are sick in the head. You have mass shooting attacks constantly and instead of condemning the reason why these attacks happen constantly, you instead become apologists and sweep it all under the rug until it becomes normalized.

"Oh it's just a mass shooting, no big deal because some other random incident terror related also happened somewhere!" - america

Oh man, I didn't know automatic weapons were sentient and held an incredibly dogmatic belief that results in gruesome attacks on innocent civilians. Oh man, thank you for enlightening me, man.
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NINExATExSEVEN
10/07/17 12:04:20 PM
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Fossil posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
You people in western Europe are sick in the head. You have terrorist attacks constantly and instead of condemning the reason why these attacks happen constantly, you instead become apologists and sweep it all under the rug until it becomes normalized.

Did you really just blame him for something completely out of his control? lmao, speaking of sick in the head...

ps - condeming something doesn't stop it. news at 5


"You people in western Europe". Meaning I blame western Europeans for being lap dogs, not Pinky.
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Solar_Crimson
10/07/17 12:06:07 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
Qve6y9F

I shouldn't be surprised at the racist rantings of the idiots on that subreddit, but...
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pinky0926
10/07/17 12:09:35 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
pinky0926 posted...
Qve6y9F

I shouldn't be surprised at the racist rantings of the idiots on that subreddit, but...


The shift in tone is so shameless it genuinely surprises me.
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The Great Muta 22
10/07/17 12:15:38 PM
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Want another one? Go read the pinned topic about the incident in London today that by all current news looks to be a car accident and not a "Muslim terror attack". Of course they don't believe that it isn't, but hey, whoever said cultists are smart?

EDIT: And not to mention they're also completely insane and calling for the deportation of all Muslims at best, and the murder of all of them and their families at worse. Truly despicable and pathetic people
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Turtlebread
10/07/17 12:15:39 PM
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EverDownward posted...
Oh man, I didn't know automatic weapons were sentient and held an incredibly dogmatic belief that results in gruesome attacks on innocent civilians. Oh man, thank you for enlightening me, man.


Okay we'll just sweep it under the rug and move on with our lives.
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