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Callixtus 10/13/17 11:49:07 AM #101: |
Asherlee10 posted...
Callixtus posted...Asherlee10 posted...Callixtus posted...Also LGBT people had the same rights as straight people before SSM. They too could marry a person of the opposite sex. Now everyone has gained an additional right: the ability to marry someone of the same sex. If you legislate against same sex marriage you are taking a right away from everyone not just LGBT people. That is an equal right. And the right to marriage someone of the opposite sex was equally denied. --- It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Callixtus 10/13/17 11:51:02 AM #103: |
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Callixtus posted...Indeed, for most of Western civilization, marriage had very little to do with attraction or love at all. If you look at the Romans, marriages of love were considered a rarity. It was always political. Much the same for the medieval period when politics and inheritances were a huge consideration. --- It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Callixtus 10/13/17 11:51:47 AM #104: |
Asherlee10 posted...
Callixtus posted...Asherlee10 posted...Callixtus posted...Asherlee10 posted...Callixtus posted...Also LGBT people had the same rights as straight people before SSM. They too could marry a person of the opposite sex. Now everyone has gained an additional right: the ability to marry someone of the same sex. If you legislate against same sex marriage you are taking a right away from everyone not just LGBT people. Any reason why? Marriage itself doesnt require attraction or love. It's a governmental contract. --- It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Malcolm_McGuffi 10/13/17 11:51:59 AM #105: |
"Equal rights are equal rights," but "human rights are a nebulous concept."
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Callixtus 10/13/17 11:53:12 AM #107: |
Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
"Equal rights are equal rights," but "human rights are a nebulous concept." There is no contradiction there. Idk you think there is. --- It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Callixtus 10/13/17 11:54:10 AM #108: |
Asherlee10 posted...
Callixtus posted...Asherlee10 posted...Callixtus posted...Indeed, for most of Western civilization, marriage had very little to do with attraction or love at all. My comment was about most of Western civilization in the past, hence the use of the past tense. Not how it is in the present. Try again. --- It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 10/13/17 11:55:06 AM #111: |
Callixtus posted...
Asherlee10 posted...Callixtus posted...Asherlee10 posted...Callixtus posted...Indeed, for most of Western civilization, marriage had very little to do with attraction or love at all. Because we should base modern day laws off of how things worked 2000 years ago. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Malcolm_McGuffi 10/13/17 11:58:56 AM #112: |
Callixtus posted...
Malcolm_McGuffi posted..."Equal rights are equal rights," but "human rights are a nebulous concept." The tragedy is your own bigotry and disrespect for human rights. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Callixtus 10/13/17 12:06:56 PM #113: |
Tmaster148 posted...
Callixtus posted...Asherlee10 posted...Callixtus posted...Asherlee10 posted...Callixtus posted...Indeed, for most of Western civilization, marriage had very little to do with attraction or love at all. Never said that. Nice strawman. --- It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Callixtus 10/13/17 12:10:10 PM #114: |
Asherlee10 posted...
You can define equality in more than one way. An LGBT had an equal right and access to marriage. This is fact. To say that marriage equality must be based on sex is arbitrary. --- It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Callixtus 10/13/17 12:12:11 PM #115: |
Malcolm_McGuffi posted...
Callixtus posted...Malcolm_McGuffi posted..."Equal rights are equal rights," but "human rights are a nebulous concept." Human rights is an empty concept. I'm not a bigot. I don't oppose government recognized same sex marriage or the right of LGBT people to have same sex sex. You people are actually the bigots. You have all been collectively triggered by me merely defending someone's right to have a different opinion on same sex marriage without being called "brainwashed". --- It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wolf_J_Flywheel 10/13/17 12:16:12 PM #116: |
Asherlee10 posted...
Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...OpheliaAdenade posted...Mal_Fet posted...Can we please stop using the SPLC to determine what is a hate group? So they don't campaign against gay people. They believe gay marriage is some sort of unholy union. I'd like to know what rights you are talking about. Marriage isn't an inalienable right. Besides gay marriages aren't banned or illegal. So it don't even matter. --- Those who act like sheep, will be eaten by wolves http://i.imgur.com/n1L1yBu.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrenchCrunch 10/13/17 12:24:11 PM #117: |
Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...
So they don't campaign against gay people. They believe gay marriage is some sort of unholy union. they wish to outlaw homosexual acts ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CocteauQuintplt 10/13/17 12:29:34 PM #118: |
Callixtus posted...
Malcolm_McGuffi posted...Callixtus posted...Malcolm_McGuffi posted..."Equal rights are equal rights," but "human rights are a nebulous concept." What a dumb comment. --- I am Amp ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLOUR 10/13/17 12:40:26 PM #121: |
What's the point of the T in LGBT? It seems like a whole separate issue.
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Callixtus 10/13/17 12:41:09 PM #122: |
Asherlee10 posted...
Callixtus posted...Malcolm_McGuffi posted...Callixtus posted...Malcolm_McGuffi posted..."Equal rights are equal rights," but "human rights are a nebulous concept." No, it's just obvious that you don't understand what the word equality means, and just twist the word to whatever pleases you based on arbitrary changing goalposts. --- It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Callixtus 10/13/17 12:41:36 PM #123: |
CocteauQuintplt posted...
Callixtus posted...Malcolm_McGuffi posted...Callixtus posted...Malcolm_McGuffi posted..."Equal rights are equal rights," but "human rights are a nebulous concept." Excellent contribution. --- It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TrevorBlack79 10/13/17 12:42:07 PM #124: |
Callixtus posted...
No, it's just obvious that you don't understand what the word equality means, and just twist the word to whatever pleases you based on arbitrary changing goalposts. Well, that's ironic. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CocteauQuintplt 10/13/17 12:42:38 PM #125: |
Callixtus posted...
CocteauQuintplt posted...Callixtus posted...Malcolm_McGuffi posted...Callixtus posted...Malcolm_McGuffi posted..."Equal rights are equal rights," but "human rights are a nebulous concept." Better than yours, to be honest. --- I am Amp ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yusiko 10/13/17 12:47:34 PM #127: |
Asherlee10 posted...
Without fail when someone starts saying "You people..." it always ends up with some ass-backwards statements. he is either a troll or a homophobe possibly both his "you people are the real bigots" bullshit makes me want to think troll but sadly it doesnt confirm he isnt just a homophobe --- yusketeer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Callixtus 10/13/17 12:48:24 PM #128: |
Asherlee10 posted...
Callixtus posted...Asherlee10 posted...Callixtus posted...Malcolm_McGuffi posted...Callixtus posted...Malcolm_McGuffi posted..."Equal rights are equal rights," but "human rights are a nebulous concept." By definition having equal rights to someone else is equality. It's that simple. That doesn't mean you have to like that form of equality. Are you obtuse? --- It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 10/13/17 1:38:23 PM #130: |
Callixtus posted...
Asherlee10 posted... So you believe blacks had "equal rights to marriage" during miscegentation laws? When they were prohibited from marrying white people? If I'm following your logic, as long as a person has *somebody* they can marry, they have "equal rights to marriage"? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 10/13/17 1:49:37 PM #131: |
Zeeak4444 posted...
Any Christian complaining about being persecuted or oppressed needs to get off their ass and fix their own group first. I agree, but I like how this post is perfectly described by your sig lol. Callixtus posted... Having legitimate beliefs doesn't make you a hate group. Gays are bad because an invisible wizard said so is not a legitimate belief. --- I cannot believe it! http://i.imgur.com/QiEb7.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Callixtus 10/13/17 1:50:27 PM #132: |
Ruvan22 posted...
Callixtus posted...Asherlee10 posted... It was equal in the sense that people could only marry their own race. Whites were equally banned from marrying blacks. --- It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Callixtus 10/13/17 1:50:53 PM #133: |
l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...Any Christian complaining about being persecuted or oppressed needs to get off their ass and fix their own group first. That's not reductive at all! --- It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 10/13/17 1:52:04 PM #134: |
Name one reason to oppose gay marriage based on something that can reliably be proven.
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Callixtus 10/13/17 1:53:18 PM #135: |
Asherlee10 posted...
Callixtus posted...By definition having equal rights to someone else is equality. It's that simple. That doesn't mean you have to like that form of equality. Are you obtuse? That's just blatantly false. Many homosexuals used that right and have for millenia, just like many loveless heterosexuals have, as well as asexual people. Because marriage is just a contract that grants certain benefits. --- It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 10/13/17 1:54:29 PM #136: |
I hear Presidents shouldn't pick sides.
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Callixtus 10/13/17 1:54:43 PM #137: |
l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted...
Name one reason to oppose gay marriage based on something that can reliably be proven. Why is it my duty to defend a position that I'm not proposing? --- It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 10/13/17 1:55:24 PM #138: |
If the reason to oppose gay marriage cannot be reliably, logically proven, it is not a legitimate belief.
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Tropicalwood 10/13/17 1:56:08 PM #139: |
l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted...
Name one reason to oppose gay marriage based on something that can reliably be proven. Straight white men using it to commit insurance fraud. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Now_Pronounce_You_Chuck_%26_Larry And no, I don't actually give a shit about any sort of marriage, I think the government should have no involvement in such things. --- ayy lmao ayy lmao || oaml oaml yya yya ayy lmao ayy lmao || oaml oaml yya yya ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrisbeeDude 10/13/17 1:56:25 PM #140: |
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FrisbeeDude posted...Your hate boner for Kaep is very Whitlock-ish. Keep at it, champ. I'm sorry I'm not willing to call him an idiot because he didn't vote. --- No one gets in the way of my frisbee games! NO ONE! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Callixtus 10/13/17 1:59:59 PM #141: |
l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted...
If the reason to oppose gay marriage cannot be reliably, logically proven, it is not a legitimate belief. So I assume you must not believe in human rights correct? --- It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 10/13/17 2:17:38 PM #142: |
Callixtus posted...
l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted...If the reason to oppose gay marriage cannot be reliably, logically proven, it is not a legitimate belief. Are you arguing that there are no logical reasons to support human rights? Because I feel like you can argue for them in a utilitarian fashion, free of religion and the false belief you need it to be moral. Now do that for banning gay marriage. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Callixtus 10/13/17 2:45:50 PM #143: |
hockeybub89 posted...
Callixtus posted...l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted...If the reason to oppose gay marriage cannot be reliably, logically proven, it is not a legitimate belief. Human rights are a fiction. Utilitarianism is also an empty philosophy because utility has no definition. --- It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 10/13/17 11:45:30 PM #144: |
Callixtus posted...
Ruvan22 posted...Callixtus posted...Asherlee10 posted... Do you agree with that law? If not, then what would you call the push for races to intermarry? If you feel the phrase "Equal rights" is not appropriate, what would you call it? (Not being argumentative, just curious what words you would use) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Callixtus 10/14/17 10:27:46 AM #145: |
Ruvan22 posted...
Callixtus posted...Ruvan22 posted...Callixtus posted...Asherlee10 posted... I would frame it in terms of attacking segregation. And of course black people were denied actual equal rights in other ways. --- It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. | I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 10/14/17 1:06:01 PM #146: |
Callixtus posted...
Ruvan22 posted...Callixtus posted...Ruvan22 posted...Callixtus posted...Asherlee10 posted... OK, so to confirm, you feel "Blacks had equal rights to marry", even if they couldn't marry inter racially, because they had the option to marry other black people? I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, asking for your confirm how you would phrase it. A good way to elaborate would be the other instances you describe - what is an instance in which you "feel black people were denied actual equal rights in other ways"? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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