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RickyTheBAWSE 10/14/17 11:38:40 AM #1:	https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/oct/13/viking-burial-clothes-woven-with-allah-unveiled-by-swedish-university A Swedish university has discovered Arabic characters for Allah and Ali woven into Viking burial clothes. Researchers at Uppsala University describe the finding of the geometric Kufic characters in silver on woven bands of silk as staggering. The researchers at Uppsala, Swedens oldest university, were re-examining clothes that had been in storage for some time. They had originally been found at Viking burial sites in Birka and Gamla Uppsala in Sweden. Textile archaeology researcher Annika Larsson told the BBC that at first she could not make sense of the symbols, but then, I remembered where I had seen similar designs: in Spain, on Moorish textiles. This led to the identification of the name Ali in the text and, when looked at in a mirror, the word Allah in reverse was revealed. Perhaps this was an attempt to write prayers so that they could be read from left to right, said Larsson. Arabic characters are more typically inscribed right to left. The finding contradicts theories that Islamic objects in Viking graves are only the result of plunder or trade because, she explained, the inscriptions appear in typical Viking age clothing that have their counterparts in preserved images of Valkyries. Larsson said the choice of burial clothes reflected the fineries of Viking life rather than the day-to-day reality, in much the same way that in the modern era people are buried in formal clothes. Presumably, Viking age burial customs were influenced by Islam and the idea of an eternal life in paradise after death. Viking contact with the Islamic world is a well-established fact. There have been finds of more than 100,000 Islamic silver coins known as dirhams in Viking-age Scandinavia. DNA analysis of Viking graves has also shown that some of them contain people who originated in Persia. The Vale of York hoard, discovered near Harrogate in 2007, contained objects relating to three belief systems Islam, Christianity and the worship of Thor and at least seven different languages. And in March 2015 a Viking womans glass ring was discovered bearing the inscription for Allah or to Allah. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:888416969] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote>https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/oct/13/viking-burial-clothes-woven-with-allah-unveiled-by-swedish-university A Swedish university has discovered Arabic characters for Allah and Ali woven into Viking burial clothes. Researchers at Uppsala University describe the finding of the geometric Kufic characters in silver on woven bands of silk as staggering. The researchers at Uppsala, Swedens oldest university, were re-examining clothes that had been in storage for some time. They had originally been found at Viking burial sites in Birka and Gamla Uppsala in Sweden. Textile archaeology researcher Annika Larsson told the BBC that at first she could not make sense of the symbols, but then, I remembered where I had seen similar designs: in Spain, on Moorish textiles. This led to the identification of the name Ali in the text and, when looked at in a mirror, the word Allah in reverse was revealed. Perhaps this was an attempt to write prayers so that they could be read from left to right, said Larsson. Arabic characters are more typically inscribed right to left. The finding contradicts theories that Islamic objects in Viking graves are only the result of plunder or trade because, she explained, the inscriptions appear in typical Viking age clothing that have their counterparts in preserved images of Valkyries. Larsson said the choice of burial clothes reflected the fineries of Viking life rather than the day-to-day reality, in much the same way that in the modern era people are buried in formal clothes. Presumably, Viking age burial customs were influenced by Islam and the idea of an eternal life in paradise after death. Viking contact with the Islamic world is a well-established fact. There have been finds of more than 100,000 Islamic silver coins known as dirhams in Viking-age Scandinavia. DNA analysis of Viking graves has also shown that some of them contain people who originated in Persia. The Vale of York hoard, discovered near Harrogate in 2007, contained objects relating to three belief systems Islam, Christianity and the worship of Thor and at least seven different languages. And in March 2015 a Viking womans glass ring was discovered bearing the inscription for Allah or to Allah. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tezlok 10/14/17 12:06:44 PM #2:	that viking was a traitor to Odin <cite>Tezlok posted [p:888418183] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote>that viking was a traitor to Odin</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 10/14/17 12:08:29 PM #3:	The alt-right will be pissed off for no reason. Tezlok posted... that viking was a traitor to Odin case in point --- http://i.imgur.com/jWVrg9U.gif http://i.imgur.com/g2efUtT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5dOwhaP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/LVdqu8J.gif Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:888418263] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote>The alt-right will be pissed off for no reason. <cite>Tezlok posted...</cite> <quote>that viking was a traitor to Odin</quote> case in point</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tezlok 10/14/17 12:09:59 PM #4:	sktgamer_13dude posted... The alt-right will be pissed off for no reason. Tezlok posted... that viking was a traitor to Odin case in point alt right aren't pagans. they are Christians. and I'm not pissed off. I was semi joking. why would I be literally angry over a religious conversion of some random person that lived a thousand years ago? <cite>Tezlok posted [p:888418324] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>The alt-right will be pissed off for no reason. <cite>Tezlok posted...</cite> <quote>that viking was a traitor to Odin</quote> case in point</quote> alt right aren't pagans. they are Christians. and I'm not pissed off. I was semi joking. why would I be literally angry over a religious conversion of some random person that lived a thousand years ago?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 10/14/17 12:10:11 PM #5:	Tezlok posted... that viking was a traitor to Odin odins a dick anyway. thor was the cool god --- Hey what's going on in this thread http://i.imgur.com/6fpKRW8.gif http://i.imgur.com/RNZi0gk.gif <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:888418327] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tezlok posted...</cite> <quote>that viking was a traitor to Odin</quote> odins a dick anyway. thor was the cool god</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ManSpread 10/14/17 12:10:26 PM #6:	Valhalla Allahlav ~~tee hee~~ --- http://i.imgur.com/7PDx6Ff.jpg http://i.imgur.com/WStMw87.gif http://i.imgur.com/aer0vok.gif https://i.imgur.com/XGlw6Ii.jpg <cite>ManSpread posted [p:888418339] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote>Valhalla Allahlav tee hee</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tezlok 10/14/17 12:11:32 PM #7:	ThyCorndog posted... Tezlok posted... that viking was a traitor to Odin odins a dick anyway. thor was the cool god Odin hung himself by the eye socket so that he would have the wisdom to rule though. that's pretty metal <cite>Tezlok posted [p:888418380] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tezlok posted...</cite> <quote>that viking was a traitor to Odin</quote> odins a dick anyway. thor was the cool god</quote> Odin hung himself by the eye socket so that he would have the wisdom to rule though. that's pretty metal</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
specialkid8 10/14/17 12:12:41 PM #8:	RickyTheBAWSE posted... Presumably, Viking age burial customs were influenced by Islam and the idea of an eternal life in paradise after death. That's a hell of a leap. More than likely they thought the Islamic symbols looked cool and ornate so they had it put on his burial clothes. <cite>specialkid8 posted [p:888418437] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote><cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted...</cite> <quote>Presumably, Viking age burial customs were influenced by Islam and the idea of an eternal life in paradise after death.</quote> That's a hell of a leap. More than likely they thought the Islamic symbols looked cool and ornate so they had it put on his burial clothes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 10/14/17 12:22:19 PM #9:	specialkid8 posted... RickyTheBAWSE posted... Presumably, Viking age burial customs were influenced by Islam and the idea of an eternal life in paradise after death. That's a hell of a leap. More than likely they thought the Islamic symbols looked cool and ornate so they had it put on his burial clothes. I wouldn't be surprised by that, either. the Vikings seemed pretty intrigued with other cultures. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:888418861] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote><cite>specialkid8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted...</cite> <quote> Presumably, Viking age burial customs were influenced by Islam and the idea of an eternal life in paradise after death.</quote> That's a hell of a leap. More than likely they thought the Islamic symbols looked cool and ornate so they had it put on his burial clothes.</quote> I wouldn't be surprised by that, either. the Vikings seemed pretty intrigued with other cultures.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 10/14/17 12:24:42 PM #10:	this was already a topic --- http://i.imgur.com/LAvnefi.gif http://i.imgur.com/6kW9fXL.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:888418975] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote>this was already a topic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
literal_garbage 10/14/17 12:24:46 PM #11:	Wtf I hate Vikings now --- - literal garbage <cite>literal_garbage posted [p:888418977] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote>Wtf I hate Vikings now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 10/14/17 12:26:52 PM #12:	Viking contact with the Islamic world is a well-established fact. So what's the significance of the find, here? I'm guessing the purpose of the article is just an excuse to be contrarian to Swedish ethno-nationalists by going "well technically Islam is a part of Swedish tradition". This is why people don't like liberals. This shit is so unbearably passive-aggressive and transparent, lol --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:888419063] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote><quote>Viking contact with the Islamic world is a well-established fact. </quote> So what's the significance of the find, here? I'm guessing the purpose of the article is just an excuse to be contrarian to Swedish ethno-nationalists by going "well technically Islam is a part of Swedish tradition". This is why people don't like liberals. This shit is so unbearably passive-aggressive and transparent, lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 10/14/17 12:32:13 PM #13:	weapon_d00d816 posted... Viking contact with the Islamic world is a well-established fact. So what's the significance of the find, here? I'm guessing the purpose of the article is just an excuse to be contrarian to Swedish ethno-nationalists by going "well technically Islam is a part of Swedish tradition". This is why people don't like liberals. This shit is so unbearably passive-aggressive and transparent, lol honestly its just to publish and get attention. most of these scientists have to publish to stay relevant, which means posting dubious claims at times. --- http://i.imgur.com/LAvnefi.gif http://i.imgur.com/6kW9fXL.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:888419297] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Viking contact with the Islamic world is a well-established fact. </quote> So what's the significance of the find, here? I'm guessing the purpose of the article is just an excuse to be contrarian to Swedish ethno-nationalists by going "well technically Islam is a part of Swedish tradition". This is why people don't like liberals. This shit is so unbearably passive-aggressive and transparent, lol</quote> honestly its just to publish and get attention. most of these scientists have to publish to stay relevant, which means posting dubious claims at times.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 10/14/17 12:33:30 PM #14:	E32005 posted... this was already a topic I typed in "Allah" into the search and nothing came up. but I guess literally every other key word would have found that one other topic. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:888419342] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote><cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote>this was already a topic</quote> I typed in "Allah" into the search and nothing came up. but I guess literally every other key word would have found that one other topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tezlok 10/14/17 12:35:22 PM #15:	RickyTheBAWSE posted... E32005 posted... this was already a topic I typed in "Allah" into the search and nothing came up. but I guess literally every other key word would have found that one other topic. besides, who even cares. if someone already saw the old topic and then sees this one, are they going to die or something? this is my first time seeing this story. not everyone sees every topic <cite>Tezlok posted [p:888419419] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote><cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted...</cite> <quote><cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote>this was already a topic</quote> I typed in "Allah" into the search and nothing came up. but I guess literally every other key word would have found that one other topic.</quote> besides, who even cares. if someone already saw the old topic and then sees this one, are they going to die or something? this is my first time seeing this story. not everyone sees every topic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 10/14/17 12:35:29 PM #16:	effin immigrants --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:888419423] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote>effin immigrants</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 10/14/17 12:35:34 PM #17:	This led to the identification of the name Ali in the text and, when looked at in a mirror,* the word Allah in reverse was revealed.* -_- --- We're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon, but there ain't no whales, so we tell tall tales, and sing our whaling tune. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:888419431] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote>This led to the identification of the name Ali in the text and, when looked at in a mirror, the word Allah in reverse was revealed. -_-</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkdamental 10/14/17 12:38:23 PM #18:	specialkid8 posted... RickyTheBAWSE posted... Presumably, Viking age burial customs were influenced by Islam and the idea of an eternal life in paradise after death. That's a hell of a leap. Now they just need to make the case that (a) Viking communities had no cultural contacts with Christian Europe prior to their encounter with the Islamic world, or that (b) Christianity and pagan religions have no concept of an afterlife, and the mountain of evidence that the Norse world was identifiably Muslim will be topped by this final compelling proof! --- Slaughterhouse 5 Cattle 0 <cite>Funkdamental posted [p:888419536] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote><cite>specialkid8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted...</cite> <quote>Presumably, Viking age burial customs were influenced by Islam and the idea of an eternal life in paradise after death.</quote> That's a hell of a leap. </quote> Now they just need to make the case that (a) Viking communities had no cultural contacts with Christian Europe prior to their encounter with the Islamic world, or that (b) Christianity and pagan religions have no concept of an afterlife, and the mountain of evidence that the Norse world was identifiably Muslim will be topped by this final compelling proof!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stoltenberg11 10/14/17 12:47:18 PM #19:	What if the vikings were just joking around knowing that in a thousand years when their remains were unearthed that we would be super confused by it --- You're such a boring characterless entity. Try getting laid once in a while and maybe you'll have friends and find out what a "joke" is. - derrate <cite>stoltenberg11 posted [p:888419936] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote>What if the vikings were just joking around knowing that in a thousand years when their remains were unearthed that we would be super confused by it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pogo_Marimo 10/14/17 12:54:03 PM #20:	ManSpread posted... Valhalla Allahlav ~~tee hee~~ Removes glasses Sweet mother of God... Anyways, I've heard that Scandenavians of the time were fairly flippant about their worship of gods, and it was viewed more as a personal choice rather than a societal dogma to follow. If their interpretation of this is correct then that's really cool --- // BEAUTY IS NOT LOVE - LOVE IS NOT MUSIC - MUSIC IS THE BEST - WISDOM IS THE DOMAIN OF THE WIZ--WHICH IS EXTINCT // http://www.last.fm/user/Pogo92 <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:888420271] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote><cite>ManSpread posted...</cite> <quote>Valhalla Allahlav tee hee</quote> Removes glasses Sweet mother of God... Anyways, I've heard that Scandenavians of the time were fairly flippant about their worship of gods, and it was viewed more as a personal choice rather than a societal dogma to follow. If their interpretation of this is correct then that's really cool</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rodu_jr 10/14/17 12:59:34 PM #21:	this is just ibn Fadlan's grave <cite>rodu_jr posted [p:888420508] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote>this is just ibn Fadlan's grave</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 10/14/17 1:00:20 PM #22:	ok, honestly. Vikings traded with many civilzations. Its not unreasonable to think it was simply a trinket purchased from a trader. --- http://i.imgur.com/LAvnefi.gif http://i.imgur.com/6kW9fXL.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:888420562] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote>ok, honestly. Vikings traded with many civilzations. Its not unreasonable to think it was simply a trinket purchased from a trader.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Malcolm_McGuffi 10/14/17 1:01:41 PM #23:	E32005 posted... ok, honestly. Vikings traded with many civilzations. Its not unreasonable to think it was simply a trinket purchased from a trader. That they were buried in? <cite>Malcolm_McGuffi posted [p:888420626] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote><cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote>ok, honestly. Vikings traded with many civilzations. Its not unreasonable to think it was simply a trinket purchased from a trader.</quote> That they were buried in?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 10/14/17 1:04:06 PM #24:	Malcolm_McGuffi posted... E32005 posted... ok, honestly. Vikings traded with many civilzations. Its not unreasonable to think it was simply a trinket purchased from a trader. That they were buried in? maybe they wanted to be buried in their fanciest clothes? not as extreme as Egyptian royalty... >_> those poor cats. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:888420735] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote><cite>Malcolm_McGuffi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote> ok, honestly. Vikings traded with many civilzations. Its not unreasonable to think it was simply a trinket purchased from a trader.</quote> That they were buried in?</quote> maybe they wanted to be buried in their fanciest clothes? not as extreme as Egyptian royalty... >_> those poor cats.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 10/14/17 1:04:43 PM #25:	Malcolm_McGuffi posted... E32005 posted... ok, honestly. Vikings traded with many civilzations. Its not unreasonable to think it was simply a trinket purchased from a trader. That they were buried in? why not? maybe it was something they really liked, or it had sentimental value. --- http://i.imgur.com/LAvnefi.gif http://i.imgur.com/6kW9fXL.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:888420767] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote><cite>Malcolm_McGuffi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote>ok, honestly. Vikings traded with many civilzations. Its not unreasonable to think it was simply a trinket purchased from a trader.</quote> That they were buried in?</quote> why not? maybe it was something they really liked, or it had sentimental value.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 10/14/17 1:05:12 PM #26:	There are multiple possible reasons for this to happen. While they were good at both plundering and trading, it feels a little strange that they would add some strange symbols, unless they had some connection to the Middle East. Which they might have. Some could have brought slaves back, perhaps even a wife. We got DNA evidence of that. Another thing is, what happen if you lost a fight down there and survive? You get taken as either prisoner, with a likely death sentence, or you are being sold as a slave. If you were lucky, you could be sold as a bodyguard. Unlike being a slave, you actually got paid for your service, and after a couple of years you would have enough to buy your freedom, and still have enough money to have a small fortune. Having a viking bodyguard was more exclusive than having a normal bodyguard, and they might even give you your freedom if you did a good enough job. The problem is that you were expected to follow their religious customs, unless you wanted to be sold as a lowclass slave. And when they returned home, perhaps with a new wife, they simply continued with praising Allah because doing so got them home, which their Norse Gods failed at. Or he simply did it for his Middle Eastern wife. It is not that hard to imaginate. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:888420791] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote>There are multiple possible reasons for this to happen. While they were good at both plundering and trading, it feels a little strange that they would add some strange symbols, unless they had some connection to the Middle East. Which they might have. Some could have brought slaves back, perhaps even a wife. We got DNA evidence of that. Another thing is, what happen if you lost a fight down there and survive? You get taken as either prisoner, with a likely death sentence, or you are being sold as a slave. If you were lucky, you could be sold as a bodyguard. Unlike being a slave, you actually got paid for your service, and after a couple of years you would have enough to buy your freedom, and still have enough money to have a small fortune. Having a viking bodyguard was more exclusive than having a normal bodyguard, and they might even give you your freedom if you did a good enough job. The problem is that you were expected to follow their religious customs, unless you wanted to be sold as a lowclass slave. And when they returned home, perhaps with a new wife, they simply continued with praising Allah because doing so got them home, which their Norse Gods failed at. Or he simply did it for his Middle Eastern wife. It is not that hard to imaginate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
specialkid8 10/14/17 1:05:50 PM #27:	Malcolm_McGuffi posted... E32005 posted... ok, honestly. Vikings traded with many civilzations. Its not unreasonable to think it was simply a trinket purchased from a trader. That they were buried in? The pattern is pretty cool looking. The person could have no idea what it meant but they wanted it on their finest clothes. <cite>specialkid8 posted [p:888420815] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote><cite>Malcolm_McGuffi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote>ok, honestly. Vikings traded with many civilzations. Its not unreasonable to think it was simply a trinket purchased from a trader.</quote> That they were buried in?</quote> The pattern is pretty cool looking. The person could have no idea what it meant but they wanted it on their finest clothes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 10/14/17 1:09:01 PM #28:	specialkid8 posted... Malcolm_McGuffi posted... E32005 posted... ok, honestly. Vikings traded with many civilzations. Its not unreasonable to think it was simply a trinket purchased from a trader. That they were buried in? The pattern is pretty cool looking. The person could have no idea what it meant but they wanted it on their finest clothes. I wonder if scientists 1000 years from now will think the Chinese language had far more influence in the Western world than it really did due to tattoos. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:888420981] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote><cite>specialkid8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Malcolm_McGuffi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote>ok, honestly. Vikings traded with many civilzations. Its not unreasonable to think it was simply a trinket purchased from a trader.</quote> That they were buried in?</quote> The pattern is pretty cool looking. The person could have no idea what it meant but they wanted it on their finest clothes.</quote> I wonder if scientists 1000 years from now will think the Chinese language had far more influence in the Western world than it really did due to tattoos.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tezlok 10/14/17 1:09:51 PM #29:	weapon_d00d816 posted... specialkid8 posted... Malcolm_McGuffi posted... E32005 posted... ok, honestly. Vikings traded with many civilzations. Its not unreasonable to think it was simply a trinket purchased from a trader. That they were buried in? The pattern is pretty cool looking. The person could have no idea what it meant but they wanted it on their finest clothes. I wonder if scientists 1000 years from now will think the Chinese language had far more influence in the Western world than it really did due to tattoos. the only way a tattoo will survive to be seen a thousand years later is if the body is mummified <cite>Tezlok posted [p:888421021] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>specialkid8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Malcolm_McGuffi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote>ok, honestly. Vikings traded with many civilzations. Its not unreasonable to think it was simply a trinket purchased from a trader.</quote> That they were buried in?</quote> The pattern is pretty cool looking. The person could have no idea what it meant but they wanted it on their finest clothes.</quote> I wonder if scientists 1000 years from now will think the Chinese language had far more influence in the Western world than it really did due to tattoos.</quote> the only way a tattoo will survive to be seen a thousand years later is if the body is mummified</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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E32005 10/14/17 1:13:18 PM #31:	GOATTHlEF posted... What is this kekistan we keep unearthing artifacts about and where was it? Kekistan is in the Pelelopenesian area --- http://i.imgur.com/LAvnefi.gif http://i.imgur.com/6kW9fXL.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:888421185] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATTHlEF posted...</cite> <quote>What is this kekistan we keep unearthing artifacts about and where was it?</quote> Kekistan is in the Pelelopenesian area</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mistere Man 10/14/17 1:40:39 PM #32:	ManSpread posted... Valhalla Allahlav ~~tee hee~~ It would be so funny if it was this. --- Water+Fall=Radiation. <cite>Mistere Man posted [p:888422444] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote><cite>ManSpread posted...</cite> <quote>Valhalla Allahlav tee hee</quote> It would be so funny if it was this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 10/14/17 2:01:27 PM #33:	I'd laugh, but I can imagine a lot of push back. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:888423386] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote>I'd laugh, but I can imagine a lot of push back.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 10/14/17 2:02:51 PM #34:	Why is it so ridiculous to think a few vikings converted to Islam --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:888423452] in Viking bur... [t:75878260]...</cite> <quote>Why is it so ridiculous to think a few vikings converted to Islam</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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