Poll of the Day > Does drug tolerance ever go down.

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THEGODDAMNBATMA
10/15/17 8:13:33 PM
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For instance, I used to take Vicodin for migraines, I stopped taking it once I felt like I had to take more than one to feel relief. It's been about six months now and winter, which is when I have the worst migraines, is coming. Will I be back to normal and able to take it again and feel relief or should I find something else to ease my pain?
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helIy
10/15/17 8:18:23 PM
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it goes down.
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pedro45
10/15/17 8:43:37 PM
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It goes down but can build back up faster
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GunslingerGunsl
10/15/17 8:48:34 PM
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Yes it goes down. It's partly the reason why those who are drug addicts accidentally OD after a long period of abstinence. They use at their previous level and their bodies can't handle the same amount as it previously could.
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TheCyborgNinja
10/15/17 8:55:53 PM
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GunslingerGunsl posted...
Yes it goes down. It's partly the reason why those who are drug addicts accidentally OD after a long period of abstinence. They use at their previous level and their bodies can't handle the same amount as it previously could.

They're a brilliant lot, honestly.
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vicedungwinsgam
10/15/17 9:11:09 PM
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TheCyborgNinja posted...
GunslingerGunsl posted...
Yes it goes down. It's partly the reason why those who are drug addicts accidentally OD after a long period of abstinence. They use at their previous level and their bodies can't handle the same amount as it previously could.

They're a brilliant lot, honestly.


Hey I found the guy who is full vegan and lives purely off of the earth and bothers no one and has never once put an unhealthy substance into his body in his entire life. He even shits in boxes and uses it for fertilizer. Is this God?
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TheCyborgNinja
10/15/17 9:12:48 PM
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vicedungwinsgam posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
GunslingerGunsl posted...
Yes it goes down. It's partly the reason why those who are drug addicts accidentally OD after a long period of abstinence. They use at their previous level and their bodies can't handle the same amount as it previously could.

They're a brilliant lot, honestly.


Hey I found the guy who is full vegan and lives purely off of the earth and bothers no one and has never once put an unhealthy substance into his body in his entire life. He even shits in boxes and uses it for fertilizer. Is this God?

Is English your second language or is your comedy that bad?
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DirtBasedSoap
10/15/17 9:37:58 PM
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TheCyborgNinja posted...
GunslingerGunsl posted...
Yes it goes down. It's partly the reason why those who are drug addicts accidentally OD after a long period of abstinence. They use at their previous level and their bodies can't handle the same amount as it previously could.

They're a brilliant lot, honestly.

DAE hate addicts
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pedro45
10/15/17 10:06:10 PM
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TheCyborgNinja posted...
GunslingerGunsl posted...
Yes it goes down. It's partly the reason why those who are drug addicts accidentally OD after a long period of abstinence. They use at their previous level and their bodies can't handle the same amount as it previously could.

They're a brilliant lot, honestly.


Sarcasm against people with a disease. If you ever question why you have poor occurrences in your life, look back on how you think of others.
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helIy
10/15/17 10:31:14 PM
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pedro45 posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
GunslingerGunsl posted...
Yes it goes down. It's partly the reason why those who are drug addicts accidentally OD after a long period of abstinence. They use at their previous level and their bodies can't handle the same amount as it previously could.

They're a brilliant lot, honestly.


Sarcasm against people with a disease. If you ever question why you have poor occurrences in your life, look back on how you think of others.

he says, completely serious, as if drug addicts were forced to become addicted through no fault of their own
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GunslingerGunsl
10/15/17 10:53:50 PM
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helIy posted...
pedro45 posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
GunslingerGunsl posted...
Yes it goes down. It's partly the reason why those who are drug addicts accidentally OD after a long period of abstinence. They use at their previous level and their bodies can't handle the same amount as it previously could.

They're a brilliant lot, honestly.


Sarcasm against people with a disease. If you ever question why you have poor occurrences in your life, look back on how you think of others.

he says, completely serious, as if drug addicts were forced to become addicted through no fault of their own


Drug addiction IS a disease. I work with drug addicts. A lot of them are good people that were in unfortunate circumstances or who made some poor decisions. Depending on your genetic and environmental influences, you may be more at risk for addiction.
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Mead
10/15/17 10:57:58 PM
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uQYeIdg
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helIy
10/15/17 10:58:22 PM
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drug addiction is a disease you cause yourself because of the addiction

GunslingerGunsl posted...
A lot of them are good people that were in unfortunate circumstances

yeah, you just accidentally do some drugs
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GunslingerGunsl
10/15/17 11:00:59 PM
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helIy posted...
drug addiction is a disease you cause yourself because of the addiction

GunslingerGunsl posted...
A lot of them are good people that were in unfortunate circumstances

yeah, you just accidentally do some drugs

Sure, just like diabetes is a disease you cause yourself. Your oversimplfication of the issue is funny. Do you drink btw?
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GunslingerGunsl
10/15/17 11:02:22 PM
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Mead posted...
uQYeIdg

Lol did you hear about the scandal involving the leaders of this?
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pizz
10/16/17 12:44:43 AM
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The people saying that it goes down have never been a drug addict. I have been. It never goes down. You get ruined for life. It feels like it goes down because the first time after a long break feels amazing but yeah.
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TheCyborgNinja
10/16/17 12:47:56 AM
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GunslingerGunsl posted...
helIy posted...
pedro45 posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
GunslingerGunsl posted...
Yes it goes down. It's partly the reason why those who are drug addicts accidentally OD after a long period of abstinence. They use at their previous level and their bodies can't handle the same amount as it previously could.

They're a brilliant lot, honestly.


Sarcasm against people with a disease. If you ever question why you have poor occurrences in your life, look back on how you think of others.

he says, completely serious, as if drug addicts were forced to become addicted through no fault of their own


Drug addiction IS a disease. I work with drug addicts. A lot of them are good people that were in unfortunate circumstances or who made some poor decisions. Depending on your genetic and environmental influences, you may be more at risk for addiction.

Small pox is a disease. Cancer is a disease. Drug addiction is a symptom of either mental illness (which is a genetic defect, not a disease - I hate it when hippies mislabel it) or poor life choices (well, and stupidity, I guess. I've seen documentaries where people just took a "why not try it?" approach for no reason). As somebody with bipolar 1, which can often lead to substance abuse, I can say with certainty that "there is a choice" and some people are simply weak of character and take the bad path and use lots of excuses. That lack of conviction is why addicts to tend to replace their vice with Jesus when they get clean; it's simply trading one obsessive distraction for another.
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shadowsword87
10/16/17 12:48:53 AM
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Helly, you know that you can get addicted for just following a doctor's prescription, right?
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Third_Eye
10/16/17 1:15:58 AM
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:\ Sad that this is turning into a debate...
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RIP_Supa
10/16/17 1:30:25 AM
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TheCyborgNinja posted...
GunslingerGunsl posted...
Yes it goes down. It's partly the reason why those who are drug addicts accidentally OD after a long period of abstinence. They use at their previous level and their bodies can't handle the same amount as it previously could.

They're a brilliant lot, honestly.

In this scenario, where someone OD'd after a period of abstinence, I would imagine the most likely setting is with an IV heroin user who just decided to slam it and takes too much. Which isn't brilliant but still people make mistakes.

I'd say they're the most desperate lot, but I've never tried heroin
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pedro45
10/16/17 2:49:59 PM
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shadowsword87 posted...
Helly, you know that you can get addicted for just following a doctor's prescription, right?

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Dikitain
10/16/17 3:31:08 PM
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pedro45 posted...
shadowsword87 posted...
Helly, you know that you can get addicted for just following a doctor's prescription, right?

Which is why you should never listen to a doctor, ever.
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GunslingerGunsl
10/16/17 9:09:17 PM
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pizz posted...
The people saying that it goes down have never been a drug addict. I have been. It never goes down. You get ruined for life. It feels like it goes down because the first time after a long break feels amazing but yeah.

Even as a previous drug user I can tell you that drug tolerance goes down. Your brain has the ability to bounce back after long stretches of drug use. Obviously, the longer you use affects how long it takes you to bounce back but it does happen. Though your tolerance can return to the level that it was at much faster than it previously did if you start using again. To suggest that your tolerance can't go back down at any point again is simply untrue. lol

TheCyborgNinja posted...
GunslingerGunsl posted...
helIy posted...
pedro45 posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
GunslingerGunsl posted...
Yes it goes down. It's partly the reason why those who are drug addicts accidentally OD after a long period of abstinence. They use at their previous level and their bodies can't handle the same amount as it previously could.

They're a brilliant lot, honestly.


Sarcasm against people with a disease. If you ever question why you have poor occurrences in your life, look back on how you think of others.

he says, completely serious, as if drug addicts were forced to become addicted through no fault of their own


Drug addiction IS a disease. I work with drug addicts. A lot of them are good people that were in unfortunate circumstances or who made some poor decisions. Depending on your genetic and environmental influences, you may be more at risk for addiction.

Small pox is a disease. Cancer is a disease. Drug addiction is a symptom of either mental illness (which is a genetic defect, not a disease - I hate it when hippies mislabel it) or poor life choices (well, and stupidity, I guess. I've seen documentaries where people just took a "why not try it?" approach for no reason). As somebody with bipolar 1, which can often lead to substance abuse, I can say with certainty that "there is a choice" and some people are simply weak of character and take the bad path and use lots of excuses. That lack of conviction is why addicts to tend to replace their vice with Jesus when they get clean; it's simply trading one obsessive distraction for another.

The disease model of addiction is currently widely accepted in the medical field.

Disease: a disordered or incorrectly functioning organ, part, structure, or system of the body resulting from the effect of genetic or developmental errors, infection, poisons, nutritional deficiency or imbalance, toxicity, or unfavorable environmental factors; illness; sickness; ailment.

It doesn't take much to see how addiction falls under this definition. The brain is the organ that is incorrectly functioning. There have been studies that show addiction has a genetic basis. One's genetics may put someone at a higher risk for developing an addiction just like someone may be more at risk for developing diabetes if it runs in their family. Obviously environmental factors have a role to play in drug addiction as well. Drugs would be the toxins that affect the brain in such a way that hijacks our ability to make clear decisions. By repeatedly ingesting these substances, it has a long lasting effect on neurotransmitter pathways essentially affecting our pleasure/reward systems. At a certain point it can affect your ability to decide between things such as either going to your kids baseball game or shooting up some heroin in a back alley.
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GunslingerGunsl
10/16/17 9:12:20 PM
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But of course there is always a choice involved. Addiction being a disease doesn't absolve responsibility from the addict to do something about it. Just like diabetics are responsible for changing their diet/lifestyle, addicts need to make changes in their life that help them to stay sober. In programs, they work on developing more reliable support systems, coping and relapse prevention skills.
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THEGODDAMNBATMA
10/16/17 9:23:22 PM
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guys what have you turned my topic into
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GunslingerGunsl
10/16/17 9:29:52 PM
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>.<
sorry batma
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