Poll of the Day > Are there any video games where you actually get hurt from a long fall to water?

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Obviously not counting games where you can't swim, the water is treated as out of bounds, etc

GTAV is one.
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I know it can happen in World of Warcraft if the server doesn't register the fact that there's water there in time. Believe the same thing can/could happen in Minecraft, but that's way more rare nowadays.
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skyrim if the water isn't deep enough
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Limbo
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Megawizard posted...

Believe the same thing can/could happen in Minecraft, but that's way more rare nowadays.

It can not.
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Eh, weird shit happens in Minecraft all the time if you are playing on a server. I've suffocated in the floor and gotten caught on fire from lava that was below solid blocks before with server issues. Maybe they've patched those, though.

In Minecraft you can normally take fall damage if the water isn't deep enough. However, IIRC if you just hold jump when you hit the water, even one block deep water can save you, no matter the fall height.

Rockies posted...

Eh, weird shit happens in Minecraft all the time if you are playing on a server. I've suffocated in the floor and gotten caught on fire from lava that was below solid blocks before with server issues. Maybe they've patched those, though.

In Minecraft you can normally take fall damage if the water isn't deep enough. However, IIRC if you just hold jump when you hit the water, even one block deep water can save you, no matter the fall height.

You don't need to hold jump to do it.
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If you jump from like 100 blocks into one block deep water, you'll get hurt if you don't hold jump... unless they changed the water physics

Rockies posted...

If you jump from like 100 blocks into one block deep water, you'll get hurt if you don't hold jump... unless they changed the water physics

Cruddy_horse posted...

You don't need to hold jump to do it.

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Splatoon and the original Double Dragon come to mind
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I can't find anything to prove my point about Minecraft, but you at least could have explained it instead of just repeating the same assertion. It seems that at one point you could take fall damage in one-block deep water, but that was changed before I even started playing, so I don't know why I thought that

JOExHIGASHI posted...

skyrim if the water isn't deep enough

pretty much every game that has fall damage is like this. If you hit the bottom of whatever body of water you fell into, you usually die
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Rockies posted...

Eh, weird shit happens in Minecraft all the time if you are playing on a server. I've suffocated in the floor and gotten caught on fire from lava that was below solid blocks before with server issues. Maybe they've patched those, though.

In Minecraft you can normally take fall damage if the water isn't deep enough. However, IIRC if you just hold jump when you hit the water, even one block deep water can save you, no matter the fall height.

those things generally are due to server lag, not anything to do with minecraft proper

and you don't need to hold jump, either, for one block of water to save you, it just saves you no matter what
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a good question. I don't think I've ever seen that. I don't even have a barely qualifying answer.
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helIy posted...

Rockies posted...

Eh, weird shit happens in Minecraft all the time if you are playing on a server. I've suffocated in the floor and gotten caught on fire from lava that was below solid blocks before with server issues. Maybe they've patched those, though.

In Minecraft you can normally take fall damage if the water isn't deep enough. However, IIRC if you just hold jump when you hit the water, even one block deep water can save you, no matter the fall height.

those things generally are due to server lag, not anything to do with minecraft proper

and you don't need to hold jump, either, for one block of water to save you, it just saves you no matter what

This is literally what I was saying, but TC didn't seem to have his reading glasses on.
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No need to continue to be such a jackass over it. I understood what you said, and merely disagreed with it, but it turns out I was wrong

All 3d GTA games afaik.

Surprised no one has mentioned Mario games either if we're being technical.
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Fortnite
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SmokeMassTree posted...

Fortnite

Does that really count though? All the Water is waist deep so you aren't really hitting the water, just the ground under it.
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He didn't say deep water, so yes
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A Valley Without Wind just treats it as hitting solid ground, and then you sink normally.
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WhiskeyDisk posted...

All 3d GTA games afaik.

Surprised no one has mentioned Mario games either if we're being technical.

You can't swim in all 3D GTAs, so not really. Not sure what you're talking about with Mario games either. I'm talking strictly fall damage, not drown/insta-kill stuff.

Rockies posted...

No need to continue to be such a jackass over it. I understood what you said, and merely disagreed with it, but it turns out I was wrong

suck it chewy
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I died jumping into water in LotRO. Although, as I recall, it was a pretty long fall.

In Tony Hawk you die in an inch of water.

Well, I found out that if you try to jump into water in Super Mario 2, you die, since swimming mechanics weren't invented for Mario until 3.
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In FFXIV, in zones where you can swim, you can take damage as soon as you hit the surface of the water so long as you fall from high enough. It hurts just as much as falling that same height upon concrete, even when the water is deep enough to dive and swim below the surface.
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Yellow posted...

In Tony Hawk you die in an inch of water.

EclairReturns posted...

Well, I found out that if you try to jump into water in Super Mario 2, you die, since swimming mechanics weren't invented for Mario until 3.

How many times must I point out that I'm only talking about fall damage?

Also, they had swim mechanics in the first Mario. I guess what you probably meant was that you can't jump into water until 3, since all of the first game's swimming is completely underwater.

How about SotN until you get a specific item?
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guys, the question is about fall damage. so, in some games, if you fall too far you take damage from the fall. in games that also have swimming and water, almost always the water will save you from the fall damage completely. the question is: is there a game with fall damage and water and swimming where instead of water nullifying fall damage completely, the fall damage just scales differently (which is how it works in real life) allowing you to survive longer falls, but not infinitely so.
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While I can think of a few they're not the 'good' kind. In other words, they're the shitty kind of game where the programming was complete crap. But in well-designed games it's pretty rare.
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And so far my one example has gone without acknowledgment. I can't say I'm surprised by this.
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Cruddy_horse posted...

helIy posted...

Rockies posted...

Eh, weird shit happens in Minecraft all the time if you are playing on a server. I've suffocated in the floor and gotten caught on fire from lava that was below solid blocks before with server issues. Maybe they've patched those, though.

In Minecraft you can normally take fall damage if the water isn't deep enough. However, IIRC if you just hold jump when you hit the water, even one block deep water can save you, no matter the fall height.

those things generally are due to server lag, not anything to do with minecraft proper

and you don't need to hold jump, either, for one block of water to save you, it just saves you no matter what

This is literally what I was saying, but TC didn't seem to have his reading glasses on.

No, it wasn't. It's what you were implying, and TC was asking for clarification of the implication. You said you don't need to hold jump. You did not expain why. He was asking the reason why, the answer apparently being that one block of water is enough to cussion the fall.

Which, again, you implied, but did not outright say.
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Entity13 posted...

And so far my one example has gone without acknowledgment. I can't say I'm surprised by this.

didn't see that, but yeah that sounds like it might be one. is the height different from when landing on ground though?
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Azurik: Rise of Perathia - Huge pain when trying to climb a ladder in the Air Realm and and an enemy at the top kicks you off.
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Legacy of Kain >_>
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Azurik: Rise of Perathia - Huge pain when trying to climb a ladder in the Air Realm and and an enemy at the top kicks you off.

holy shit that game

i have never seen another person say they've played it before
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Sahuagin posted...

Entity13 posted...

And so far my one example has gone without acknowledgment. I can't say I'm surprised by this.

didn't see that, but yeah that sounds like it might be one. is the height different from when landing on ground though?

No, height difference is only applied from where you leap or fall from. So, from however much health you have, one height might take 5-10% health, another about 40-50% health, and an even grater fall height will either 1) take all but one point of damage if you're not in combat, or 2) kill you instantly if you ARE in combat.

I haven't completely tested the height differences, if any, if that damage applies to the ground versus the surface of the water, but this game treats all walkable surfaces the same, so I imagine it doesn't matter if you hit the surface of water, a rooftop from a really high tower, or a ground made of the toughest concrete your mind can conjure. If you pass a certain threshold in terms of height, and you happen to be in combat then you're a floating corpse in water.
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WhiskeyDisk posted...

Legacy of Kain >_>

In that game water is lava/air.

Such a cool game on the PS1. I wonder if there are any half good sequels.

Yellow posted...

WhiskeyDisk posted...

Legacy of Kain >_>

In that game water is lava/air.

Such a cool game on the PS1. I wonder if there are any half good sequels.

I preferred the soul reaver side of that coin but I'll always be torn because I despise time travel as a plot device.
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EclairReturns posted...

Well, I found out that if you try to jump into water in Super Mario 2, you die, since swimming mechanics weren't invented for Mario until 3.

They had swimming levels in Super Mario 1. The problem with super Mario 2 is that it isn't a true Mario game. It was another game changed into a Super Mario game.

WhiskeyDisk posted...

I preferred the soul reaver side of that coin but I'll always be torn because I despise time travel as a plot device.

It was so creepy and unique. These days we just get rehashes of zombie games. Zombies stopped being scary 7 years ago.

Well at least this looks pretty neat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW-3kOUj-w8

helIy posted...

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Azurik: Rise of Perathia - Huge pain when trying to climb a ladder in the Air Realm and and an enemy at the top kicks you off.

holy shit that game

i have never seen another person say they've played it before

I totally forgot it existed until seeing the name again. :x
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