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mrduckbear
10/23/17 12:13:47 AM
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Do you think this song is racist?


Some parents are calling foul after an 8th grade middle school choir sang a folk sang about picking cotton called "COTTON NEEDS PICKIN" during a fall concert!!

Black parents at Springfield Middle School in Ohio were outraged after hearing the song as parent Nicole Maulsby, a cuban mother posted the video on her FB claiming the song about workeers picking cotton is a racist reference to black slaves in the South

A black woman in the crowd can be heard mouthing "Oh my God".

A snippet of the song includes "Cotton needs pickin so bad, we're going to be pick all over this field"

Superintendent Matt Geha said it comes from an American folk music book and hadn't received any calls but understands the complaint on social media.

A Christian Youth Life event off campus also had a "country" theme where students of the Christian youth group were posing with the confederate flag.

Radio Host Charlie Mack said "Come on Springfield. This is the song you sing just a week after the confederate flag issue?".

The superintendent reiterated and said "I know that timing can sound bad, but it's a historical component for what the choir department had to use for their curriculum"

Do you think this song is racist?

Students singing the song -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/10/23/03/4596D0AB00000578-5004639-image-a-24_1508724638927.jpg

School -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/10/23/03/4596D09B00000578-5004639-image-a-26_1508725036910.jpg
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Golden Road
10/23/17 12:18:06 AM
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Full Throttle posted...
The superintendent reiterated and said "I know that timing can sound bad, but it's a historical component for what the choir department had to use for their curriculum"

Wait, what? They had to sing this song? Does he not realize how nonsensical that sounds?
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wwinterj25
10/23/17 12:24:44 AM
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mrduckbear posted...
Do you think this song is racist?

I'd be more shocked if folk claimed something wasn't racist tbf.
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SmokeMassTree
10/23/17 12:28:59 AM
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How can a song be racist?
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SushiSquid
10/23/17 12:30:04 AM
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SmokeMassTree posted...
How can a song be racist?

Are you... are you fuckin' serious? There's no way you actually don't understand this.
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mooreandrew58
10/23/17 12:30:58 AM
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SmokeMassTree posted...
How can a song be racist?


if its wrote intentionally to be racist. wouldn't be surprised if the Klan has some sing along campfire songs that are very racist.
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SmokeMassTree
10/23/17 12:32:37 AM
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SushiSquid posted...
SmokeMassTree posted...
How can a song be racist?

Are you... are you fuckin' serious? There's no way you actually don't understand this.


Yes

Did the song call someone a bad name or oppress someone?
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Syntheticon
10/23/17 12:33:23 AM
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A black woman in the crowd can be heard mouthing "Oh my God".

wut
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SmokeMassTree
10/23/17 12:35:50 AM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
SmokeMassTree posted...
How can a song be racist?


if its wrote intentionally to be racist. wouldn't be surprised if the Klan has some sing along campfire songs that are very racist.


A racist person can definitely write/sing a song, but a song itself can't be racist.
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SushiSquid
10/23/17 1:07:41 AM
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SmokeMassTree posted...
A racist person can definitely write/sing a song, but a song itself can't be racist.

Of the many stupid fucking things you've said, this has got to be in the top five.
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Lil69Leo
10/23/17 1:28:33 AM
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SushiSquid posted...
SmokeMassTree posted...
How can a song be racist?

Are you... are you fuckin' serious? There's no way you actually don't understand this.


He's one of the local white trash racists. Don't bother.
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SmokeMassTree
10/23/17 1:32:53 AM
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SushiSquid posted...
SmokeMassTree posted...
A racist person can definitely write/sing a song, but a song itself can't be racist.

Of the many stupid fucking things you've said, this has got to be in the top five.


How
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wwinterj25
10/23/17 1:36:02 AM
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Lil69Leo posted...
He's one of the local white trash racists. Don't bother.


Do you look at yourself the mirror and yell racist a lot? That's a rhetorical question by the way.
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Lil69Leo
10/23/17 1:38:53 AM
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wwinterj25 posted...
Lil69Leo posted...
He's one of the local white trash racists. Don't bother.


Do you look at yourself the mirror and yell racist a lot? That's a rhetorical question by the way.


Nope just point out the facts. He's already well known for being a racist and bigot. Don't be mad that you look like a rotten pumpkin.
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SmokeMassTree
10/23/17 1:39:28 AM
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Wait what now
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Kyuubi4269
10/23/17 1:41:01 AM
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So racist, white kids singing about picking cotton.

It's a historical reference, people need to stop getting so butt hurt.
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Nade Duck
10/23/17 1:42:32 AM
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..i know he has weird beliefs and a debatable taste in women but i don't think i've ever seen him actually be racist or bigoted, wut?
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Golden Road
10/23/17 1:42:54 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
It's a historical reference, people need to stop getting so butt hurt.

What is it a historical reference to?
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Lil69Leo
10/23/17 1:43:41 AM
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Nade Duck posted...
..i know he has weird beliefs and a debatable taste in women but i don't think i've ever seen him actually be racist or bigoted, wut?


He did less than a month ago. Led to me blocking him for saying garbage. Defended the NeoNazi's too.
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mooreandrew58
10/23/17 1:45:55 AM
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Golden Road posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
It's a historical reference, people need to stop getting so butt hurt.

What is it a historical reference to?


does that matter? history shouldn't be covered up, lied about, sugar coated or any shit like that.
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Nade Duck
10/23/17 1:47:07 AM
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Lil69Leo posted...
Nade Duck posted...
..i know he has weird beliefs and a debatable taste in women but i don't think i've ever seen him actually be racist or bigoted, wut?


He did less than a month ago. Led to me blocking him for saying garbage. Defended the NeoNazi's too.

what
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Lil69Leo
10/23/17 1:48:48 AM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
Golden Road posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
It's a historical reference, people need to stop getting so butt hurt.

What is it a historical reference to?


does that matter? history shouldn't be covered up, lied about, sugar coated or any shit like that.


No one is covering up history. Sugar coating racism is what is happening. Singing a jolly song about black people being used as slaves is racist and serves 0 purpose or historical teaching.
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Kyuubi4269
10/23/17 1:49:03 AM
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Golden Road posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
It's a historical reference, people need to stop getting so butt hurt.

What is it a historical reference to?

To days of slavery, shit that happened in the past.
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Golden Road
10/23/17 1:50:34 AM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
Golden Road posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
It's a historical reference, people need to stop getting so butt hurt.

What is it a historical reference to?

does that matter? history shouldn't be covered up, lied about, sugar coated or any shit like that.

Funny you mention that history shouldn't be sugar-coated...
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Lil69Leo
10/23/17 1:52:23 AM
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mrduckbear posted...
A Christian Youth Life event off campus also had a "country" theme where students of the Christian youth group were posing with the confederate flag.


Lol a racist youth group singing racist songs. /topic.
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mooreandrew58
10/23/17 1:55:43 AM
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Golden Road posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...
Golden Road posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
It's a historical reference, people need to stop getting so butt hurt.

What is it a historical reference to?

does that matter? history shouldn't be covered up, lied about, sugar coated or any shit like that.

Funny you mention that history shouldn't be sugar-coated...


well if its being sugar coated, I don't like it. I haven't heard the song so I couldn't judge.
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Golden Road
10/23/17 2:06:44 AM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
well if its being sugar coated, I don't like it. I haven't heard the song so I couldn't judge.

Before Ducky made this topic, I wasn't familiar with the song either, but yeah, it's bad. Definitely sounds like it was written by white people reminiscing about the "good ol' days" of slavery =/
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Zeus
10/23/17 2:11:57 AM
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Given that cotton was still picked after slavery ended and white people picked it as well, the outrage is stupid as usual. Doubly so since almost the entire group of singers are white. Forcing blacks to sing about picking cotton would be tone-deaf (just like the kids!), but it's the whole, mostly white class doing it.

SushiSquid posted...
SmokeMassTree posted...
How can a song be racist?

Are you... are you fuckin' serious? There's no way you actually don't understand this.


He was pretty clearly doing a bit in that original comment, implying that songs are intangibles which can't hold opinions or something. I can't believe you lost your shit over that. Oh, and then made the mistake of listening to Leo.
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Smarkil
10/23/17 2:23:19 AM
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Lil69Leo posted...
He did less than a month ago. Led to me blocking him for saying garbage. Defended the NeoNazi's too.


Yeah but your metric for 'defending neonazi's' is if someone believes in free speech.

So
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Zeus
10/23/17 2:25:51 AM
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Golden Road posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...
Golden Road posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
It's a historical reference, people need to stop getting so butt hurt.

What is it a historical reference to?

does that matter? history shouldn't be covered up, lied about, sugar coated or any shit like that.

Funny you mention that history shouldn't be sugar-coated...


Should have saved that for the song about molasses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeuaTpH6Ck0

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argonautweakend
10/23/17 2:32:02 AM
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SmokeMassTree posted...
How can a song be racist?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TBSMPrxTJw
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mooreandrew58
10/23/17 2:33:40 AM
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argonautweakend posted...
SmokeMassTree posted...
How can a song be racist?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TBSMPrxTJw


if thats who I think it is, oh god... that guy is just fucked in the head period.
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Yellow
10/23/17 2:34:16 AM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
does that matter? history shouldn't be covered up, lied about, sugar coated or any shit like that.

Yes, let's have children sing about jews in gas chambers. Why sugar coat things.
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argonautweakend
10/23/17 2:34:43 AM
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I mean you could argue GG allin hated everybody equally and only liked himself, but i dont know the motivations for writing the song.
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mooreandrew58
10/23/17 2:41:04 AM
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Yellow posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...
does that matter? history shouldn't be covered up, lied about, sugar coated or any shit like that.

Yes, let's have children sing about jews in gas chambers. Why sugar coat things.


to be fair I wasn't really talking about the song when I made that comment. someone asked what it was a historical reference to, and I was basically saying it didn't matter. I never once said I was ok with the song. which on that note, I don't have a problem with people writing whatever the hell they want for a song, but forcing your class to sing it is a different issue.
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Lil69Leo
10/23/17 2:42:45 AM
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Smarkil posted...
Lil69Leo posted...
He did less than a month ago. Led to me blocking him for saying garbage. Defended the NeoNazi's too.


Yeah but your metric for 'defending neonazi's' is if someone believes in free speech.

So


No my metric for defending nazi's is siding with them. It had nothing to do with free speech, and all that protects you from is the government, not the public. Don't defend nazi's if you don't want to be lumped into it. Same with being a racist or bigot, don't do or say shit that will be clearly judged as such.
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Smarkil
10/23/17 2:43:31 AM
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Lil69Leo posted...
No my metric for defending nazi's is siding with them. It had nothing to do with free speech, and all that protects you from is the government, not the public. Don't defend nazi's if you don't want to be lumped into it. Same with being a racist or bigot, don't do or say shit that will be clearly judged as such.


Guess the ACLU is a Nazi organization then.
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mooreandrew58
10/23/17 2:46:25 AM
#38:


Lil69Leo posted...
Smarkil posted...
Lil69Leo posted...
He did less than a month ago. Led to me blocking him for saying garbage. Defended the NeoNazi's too.


Yeah but your metric for 'defending neonazi's' is if someone believes in free speech.

So


No my metric for defending nazi's is siding with them. It had nothing to do with free speech, and all that protects you from is the government, not the public. Don't defend nazi's if you don't want to be lumped into it. Same with being a racist or bigot, don't do or say shit that will be clearly judged as such.


I feel people should have the right to say whatever the hell they want. just when it turns into actions then something needs to be done. part of why I feel this way is i'd rather people speak their mind so I know whos the assholes and whos not.
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Lil69Leo
10/23/17 2:50:01 AM
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Smarkil posted...
Lil69Leo posted...
No my metric for defending nazi's is siding with them. It had nothing to do with free speech, and all that protects you from is the government, not the public. Don't defend nazi's if you don't want to be lumped into it. Same with being a racist or bigot, don't do or say shit that will be clearly judged as such.


Guess the ACLU is a Nazi organization then.


Didn't know the advocated Neo-Nazi marches and attacking peaceful counter protestors.
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mooreandrew58
10/23/17 2:51:27 AM
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argonautweakend posted...
I mean you could argue GG allin hated everybody equally and only liked himself, but i dont know the motivations for writing the song.


I just remember one thing where he took a shit on stage and started flinging it into the crowd. he also in the same concert snatched a woman out of the crowd by the hair of her head.
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OmegaM
10/23/17 10:04:58 AM
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Well, this version of the song that I found doesn't make any references to black people:

http://www.bethsnotesplus.com/2014/04/cotton-needs-pickin.html
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Mead
10/23/17 10:07:51 AM
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Yeah that sounds pretty stupid to not be self aware about how that song could be perceived as offensive

When most people hear about picking cotton in the US, their mind goes to the days of black slave ownership
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argonautweakend
10/23/17 10:12:38 AM
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Mead posted...
When most people hear about picking cotton in the US, their mind goes to the days of black slave ownership


lolwut? my best friend works for Hanes....
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Mead
10/23/17 10:17:33 AM
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argonautweakend posted...
Mead posted...
When most people hear about picking cotton in the US, their mind goes to the days of black slave ownership


lolwut? my best friend works for Hanes....


Cotton isn't really picked anymore by hand though in the cotton industry. They use machinery.

Does he get free underpants?
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argonautweakend
10/23/17 10:26:52 AM
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So many pairs that he can blow his load each time in a new pair and just throw it out.
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Steven010702
10/23/17 11:28:07 AM
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My dad's family is poor white trash, and I know he and his family picked cotton when he and his siblings grew up on a farm. Unless the song specifically specifies slavery, I doubt it's a racist song.
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FellWolf
10/23/17 11:30:27 AM
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Syntheticon posted...
A black woman in the crowd can be heard mouthing "Oh my God".

wut


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TheCyborgNinja
10/23/17 11:32:33 AM
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Steven010702 posted...
My dad's family is poor white trash, and I know he and his family picked cotton when he and his siblings grew up on a farm. Unless the song specifically specifies slavery, I doubt it's a racist song.

Exactly. Lots of people picked cotton, its not exclusive to African-American slaves. I mean, if you want to go further down the rabbit hole, the word slave is derived from Slavic people, so...
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Super_Thug44
10/23/17 11:47:00 AM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
argonautweakend posted...
I mean you could argue GG allin hated everybody equally and only liked himself, but i dont know the motivations for writing the song.


I just remember one thing where he took a shit on stage and started flinging it into the crowd. he also in the same concert snatched a woman out of the crowd by the hair of her head.


never heard of this dude till just now. apparently he wanted to commit suicide live on-stage but was too dumb and OD'd on heroin. sounds like a fucking loon

also his literal legal birth name is Jesus Christ Allin. His parents were fucked in the head too.
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SKARDAVNELNATE
10/23/17 12:07:19 PM
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mrduckbear posted...
claiming the song about workeers picking cotton is a racist reference to black slaves in the South

White people can pick cotton too. Not everyone in the confederate south was wealthy enough to own slaves meaning they had to do their own cotton picking. Unless there's something more blatant in the song this was an overreaction.
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