Current Events > it's amazing how so many fail to grasp the concepts behind TWD thematically

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Minor comic book spoilers abound, you have been warned

Maybe it's because the show fails to translate them from the comic book to the screen well:

The walking dead is about survival and an unflinching look at the darkest parts of humanity.

This is based off reading every issue and the letter columns.

Kirkman also has a million tenements of writing he refuses to violate, yet the show has violated them quite often. These include but are not limited to:

-No flashbacks or flashforwards. They are cheap artsy gimmicks, especially flashforwards (according to kirkman). For flashbacks, it matters more how the character tells the story rather than how it is shown. In the comic book there are only ever TWO flashbacks. They briefly show Rick worried about Carl crossing the street to contrast with the peril he has now been thrusted into. And another flashback shows the night shane impregnated lori.

-No random coincidences. IE, no running into old family members randomly, they are dead.

-Characters aren't allowed to make dumb mistakes most reasonable people wouldnt....yeesh this show went bad with this. I blame a lot of poor page to screen translation and all the original content from people who obviously don't know how to write.

-No splitting up. In the comics, no characters have ever split up into groups that were both mobile without a home base. VERY occasionally characters would set up a camp while another set went on a short journey. In the zombie apocalypse, you separate and you'll never find your group again. No "let's meet up at x location y amount of time from now" since that will never work out where both parties will show up on time.

-No time jumps...at all. From issue to issue, about 98% of the comics pick up right after the previous issue ends. If you're living in a world where every second you survive is a victory, it's cheating to assume the characters will survive if we looked away from them. There have been all of 2 times I remember any sort of a time jump. A time jump of about a few weeks for tension between Carl and Rick to die after each confessed dark sins. And the massive time jump after the Negan arc ended (which served a thematic purpose that they were relatively "safe" now).

-The series is about survival and nothing more. The cause of the zombie virus will never be revealed. And there is no end game. This is the zombie movie that NEVER ends. That's the entire point. Zombie movies always end with the characters either surviving with an unknown future or dying. This series is to show what happens after the credits roll. So I have no clue where so many people on this board expect them to reveal the source of the virus or find a cure.

That is it. It amazes me how often people make topics asking questions about the show expecting them to violate one of these tenements. it should NEVER happen.
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Shitty comic with an even shittier show.

I'm happy they are finally getting itlnto settlement building which should have happened like 4 years ago. But they're just going to start all over because of mindless stupidity, and the fact that there is no point to this show that hasn't been laid out 100 times already.
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Callixtus posted...

Shitty comic with an even shittier show.

I'm happy they are finally getting itlnto settlement building which should have happened like 4 years ago. But they're just going to start all over because of mindless stupidity, and the fact that there is no point to this show that hasn't been laid out 100 times already.

your opinion. I feel like the comics broke a lot of ground. Name me 5 other zombie works that cover the same ground. If anything, the "never ending" concept alone sets it apart from everything else.
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I actually expected that "You have to have a high IQ" copypasta
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this is like the only topic by tc that's not about girls

amazing
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Good perspective but it still disrespects what zombies are. They've made the zombies a sub plot device for the show and even comics for the main theme which is "Humans are the real monster". That in itself destroys its full potential IMO.
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Veggeta X posted...

Good perspective but it still disrespects what zombies are. They've made the zombies a sub plot device for the show and even comics for the main theme of the show which is "Humans are the real monster". That in itself destroys its full potential IMO.

That's been done long before TWD
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Paper_Okami posted...

Veggeta X posted...

Good perspective but it still disrespects what zombies are. They've made the zombies a sub plot device for the show and even comics for the main theme of the show which is "Humans are the real monster". That in itself destroys its full potential IMO.

That's been done long before TWD

Correct. My point is TWD could have been more original instead they went the stereotypical route and then expected to be respected as genuine and unique show.
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Tag
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Shitty ass show with a pace slower than the walking dead in it

still watch it though
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I just wanted to say that maybe the comic book and the previous seasons of the show had strong themes, but recently, the show basically has no thematic substance whatsoever.

It used to be about a changing world, about morality and ethics, about how people have changed, contrasted with who they used to be, how far they'll go, etc.

Now it's just about a random bad guy who's really bad and they gotta beat him and teamwork yay.
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C final answer
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spanky1 posted...

I just wanted to say that maybe the comic book and the previous seasons of the show had strong themes, but recently, the show basically has no thematic substance whatsoever.

It used to be about a changing world, about morality and ethics, about how people have changed, contrasted with who they used to be, how far they'll go, etc.

Now it's just about a random bad guy who's really bad and they gotta beat him and teamwork yay.

The show is terrible. It used to be better, but the comic was always a better told story.
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A story with zombies that explores the evil of Man? Such a thing has never been done before!

Veggeta X posted...

Good perspective but it still disrespects what zombies are. They've made the zombies a sub plot device for the show and even comics for the main theme which is "Humans are the real monster". That in itself destroys its full potential IMO.

That's because zombies are lame ass villians, and you can only do "Zombie horde overwhelms the cast" before people get bored out of their minds. Again, around season 3 for me. I'm happy that the zombies have been pushed into the background because that's the only way this show can remain interesting. My only gripe with that is that the still occasionally use the jump scare zombie which has always been unrealistic, and is only more unbelievable now given how long our survivors have been out surviving.
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