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Tom Bombadil
10/30/17 2:27:01 PM
#52:


"oh no"
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swordz9
10/30/17 2:28:45 PM
#53:


I don't see the issue. Artists copy their own work all the time. Hell some anime series have multiple characters who look the same and have characters who look the same in their other series
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Lopen
10/30/17 2:30:55 PM
#54:


It's not a terrible problem

Unless the character you're copying is Boudica
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WhiteLens
10/30/17 2:54:28 PM
#55:


I'm willing to bet that it's because of WHO Parvati really is that's causing people to be upset.

Like if she was a completely original servant, I highly doubt people would care.
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Shadow Dino
10/30/17 3:00:43 PM
#56:


Right, nobody would care about a copy pasta on Boudica if it wasn't a demi servant that's been highly anticipated.

And Parvati being who she is has been speculated since Fate/Extra CCC
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swordz9
10/30/17 3:22:55 PM
#57:


Have they made a better Artoria? Like still a Saber one, but like better skills and stuff? I think the Parvati looks fine
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Mac Arrowny
10/30/17 5:46:42 PM
#58:


Alter is like regular Artoria but with better skills and NP...
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swordz9
10/30/17 5:55:38 PM
#59:


I mean aside from that. What brought it up was Rin and Sakura basically having clone Servants in this while I think Artoria just has super old original and Alter? I was hoping she had some new good card to pull!
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Mac Arrowny
10/30/17 7:36:55 PM
#60:


Artoria has a bunch of other versions too. Santa Alter, Maid Alter, Lancer, Lancer Alter, MHX, MHXA (this is still Artoria, right?). That's way more versions than Rin or Sakura have (Rin has Archer Ishtar, Rider Ishtar, and Lancer Ereshkigal (who isn't summonable yet in JP)) while Sakura has Lancer Parvati and may get Kali at some later point).
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swordz9
10/30/17 7:51:12 PM
#61:


I know she has more, but I was specifically looking for another Saber class Artoria. It doesn't look like there are any other than Artoria and Artoria Alter. At least none of those ones appear to be.

Oh well if I'm lucky I'll be able run Artoria/Okita/Altera
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WhiteLens
10/30/17 8:13:34 PM
#62:


I don't think any servant has ever been 'redone' in their same original class.

We only get variants or limited seasonal ones on other classes, and I'm not counting the Alters or Lilies as being 'redone'. Those are different forms.
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swordz9
10/30/17 8:32:19 PM
#63:


I see. I thought it might've been out long enough for at least one to be redone. This Halloween Elisabeth is pretty decent now that I Ascended her once. Too bad this fucking Dragon can burn me even when I use Jeanne's NP. 8 turns of burn damage ouch.
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KommunistKoala
10/31/17 11:19:35 AM
#64:


the last surprise quest is up in the Halloween event, 5 waves of boss battles basically

beat it with Waver/Gilgamesh/Medusa, only lost Waver like one turn before I beat it
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swordz9
10/31/17 11:40:20 AM
#65:


KommunistKoala posted...
the last surprise quest is up in the Halloween event, 5 waves of boss battles basically

beat it with Waver/Gilgamesh/Medusa, only lost Waver like one turn before I beat it

Man I had to use spells to continue because Medusa just kept gaining charge and Rule Breaker'ing everybody. If she hadn't killed Jeanne first I might not have had to. That was fucking hard
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KommunistKoala
10/31/17 12:29:33 PM
#66:


yeah I got a bit lucky she only used her NP Gain ability once or she would have hit me with her NP once.

I also used like 4 petrifying gazes from Medusa (3 from Lopens and 1 from mine when she came in after Waver died) and only missed one, so that certainly helped
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swordz9
10/31/17 12:33:49 PM
#67:


I wish my Medusa was able to Ascend more. These stupid rare items a million Servants all share are killing me. Still haven't gotten a single CE drop so I'll probably just clear the last Lunatic Party stage I have for the apple since I might as well get something out of it
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Lopen
10/31/17 1:23:01 PM
#68:


Yeahhh my Medusa got top billing

That's the power of level 6 Mystic Eyes
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MasaomiHouzuki
10/31/17 1:47:46 PM
#69:


What's weird is the Parvati artist seems to draw decent, not boudica tier art in other places, and even is a huge Sakura fan, so it's extremely confusing what actually ahppened.
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GANON1025
10/31/17 1:48:25 PM
#70:


I'll do it with my good friends, George and Hassan
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voltch
10/31/17 1:50:03 PM
#71:


Are japanese shitposters worse than 4chan and tumblr or something?

They must have done a good deal of outrage for him to close all his accounts.
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swordz9
10/31/17 1:52:38 PM
#72:


voltch posted...
Are japanese shitposters worse than 4chan and tumblr or something?

They must have done a good deal of outrage for him to close all his accounts.

I heard they were saying bad stuff about the guy's dead father
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Lopen
10/31/17 2:11:14 PM
#73:


Man I think I'm actually going to run out of actual time grinding this event before I run out of apples

Stupid Halloween Princess drop already dammit
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Mac Arrowny
10/31/17 3:15:04 PM
#74:


woo ultimate quest beated

25 turns. 2 deaths. Might've done better if I'd remembered to switch Mystic Codes before starting <_<. Started out with Robin/Herc/friend Waver. Herc died on the third wave, and Robin died shortly into the fourth (was surprised he survived so long, since he's only level 50...). Ushiwakamaru and Jeanne came in after and Ushi cleaned house with three NPs. Being able to Arts Chain every turn is fun. Wish my Ushi was NP5 instead of NP2 though...

Also got another Maid in Halloween to drop. It's like the game is taunting me...
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swordz9
10/31/17 3:17:49 PM
#75:


I don't know if I'm just not getting the team building in this game or what, but my Servants die all the time on stages like the final new one with 5 waves. They just don't live long enough even with Guts, Dodge 3 attacks, some slight Hp recovery, etc. I don't really know what I'm doing wrong. My guys have way more HP than the random 3* stuff you've guys have been bringing and doing better than me >_>
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GANON1025
10/31/17 3:34:38 PM
#76:


How good is your George?
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swordz9
10/31/17 3:37:23 PM
#77:


Not sure because I've never used him. He might be Ascended once at best.
Main stuff I use right now - Artoria, Ushiwakamaru, Tamamo Cat, Emiya and Cu
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Mac Arrowny
10/31/17 3:52:15 PM
#78:


The way you arrange your teams is pretty important too. For example, I had Ushi in the backline, because the enemies start out with Assassins and end with Casters. Also, I had Robin in the frontline because the second wave was Sabers. I was able to get my NPs up in wave 1 without taking too much damage, and then Robin one-shotted Siegfried in wave 2, so that was cake. Had my deaths after that, but Ushi and Jeanne came in and didn't take much damage due to resistances.
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Mac Arrowny
10/31/17 3:58:15 PM
#79:


Also, single-target NPs do WAY more damage than multitarget ones. So, for example, Herc does a lot more damage than Tamacat, and Robin does a lot more damage than Emiya (even Caesar does quite a bit more damage than Artoria...)
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swordz9
10/31/17 4:06:05 PM
#80:


Well that's unfortunate because who would ever really want to use tub of lard Caesar over Artoria or Robin Hood instead of Emiya? My Tamamo Cat is Ascended more than Herc which I thought would be important! I mean most of my 3* or lower guys are barely Ascended more than once or twice with a few exceptions. Just need way too many materials that I give higher priority to other Servants.
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Tom Bombadil
10/31/17 4:21:32 PM
#81:


swordz9 posted...
Robin Hood instead of Emiya


hi

(although I don't have Emiya and have swapped out Robin for David)
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Mac Arrowny
10/31/17 4:25:00 PM
#82:


Well I mean, I only ascended my Robin twice. Most servants are pretty easy to ascend twice. But yeah, variety is key.
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swordz9
10/31/17 4:29:12 PM
#83:


Also lots of enemies come in waves so for the start at least my Artoria does WAY more total damage with 1 NP than any of my single targets do to a type they're good against. If I face 3 enemy types Ushi is good against she does like 55k~ at NP5 to a single enemy (not at max charge because nobody on my teams ever live long enough to completely max past 100) while Artoria would do a total of like 85-90k. The 2nd time both have their NPs Ushi will do more damage, but it's better to have a multi for more than 1 enemy imo and this was 4 waves of 3 enemies and one wave of 2. The chimera was too deadly to leave alone too and Kiyohime also does a bunch of damage
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Mac Arrowny
10/31/17 4:30:41 PM
#84:


Overcharge doesn't usually boost damage. More often boosts a side effect. You can always check the description to see.
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swordz9
10/31/17 4:35:58 PM
#85:


Maybe I just have way worse luck than you guys too. Wanna know what happened to me recently? That big dragon during the Tama guerilla quest used its guaranteed critical attack 3 times in a row 2 turns in a row. It does a ton of damage and basically wiped out a whole 3 person team. The amount of damage I take is crazy so I am just baffled when people say these 1-2* Servants are good enough to clear events. All of mine are like lv35-45~ and typically did the first turn they're on the field to anything >_>
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Lopen
10/31/17 4:44:24 PM
#86:


Well if you're fielding level 35 servants you're not going to have a good time.

All the lower rarity stuff I'm using is quad ascended at minimum.
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swordz9
10/31/17 4:48:09 PM
#87:


That's why I never field them these days! I mean I have a fully Ascended Emiya and Artoria and a Cu, Ushi and TamaCat one Ascension away from max. I just can't really see any of the lower star guys doing well even fully Ascended because they probably have way lower stat totals. Whenever I do bring mine along to raise Bond or something it's a miracle if they live more than 2-3 turns even with Guts, evasion and invincibility skills lol
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Lopen
10/31/17 4:51:17 PM
#88:


My level 70 3* stuff and level 85 Kojirou are fairly competitive with the level 90 5* friend servants in terms of value contributed. Skills and type match ups matter a lot, particularly since you're usually not attacking with all 3 of your servants all the time.
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swordz9
10/31/17 5:02:20 PM
#89:


I don't have any lv70 3*s yet. Way too many of my Servants need the same stuff to Ascend. Like I could get Cu to 70 if I didn't also need Octuplut crystals for Herc. I think I have like 7 Servants that need Chaos Claws too. It's partly why I've basically ignored 1-2* units and even some 3*s. Like there's no chance I'm using my Chaos Claws on Leonidas before Cu, TamaCat and Herc
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GANON1025
10/31/17 6:02:17 PM
#90:


I beat the fight with Hercules/Jeanne/Support Vlad/George/Kintoki/EMIYA. I did use command seals to revive my team though.
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voltch
10/31/17 6:12:11 PM
#91:


Ok have I been using the wrong avenue to try and get Halloween Devil?

She's supposed to drop on the 30AP stage right?
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swordz9
10/31/17 6:14:05 PM
#92:


She can. A lot of people have been doing Lunatic Party and if she doesn't drop from Atalanta withdrawing to try again.
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Lopen
10/31/17 6:17:33 PM
#93:


Well if you don't have level 3s ascended, you should have others ascended in their place.

Point is the power gap between level 70 3s and level 70 or even 80 4s or 80 or 90 5s isn't as high as you'd think. Team composition, ordering, and strategy will matter more.
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Mac Arrowny
10/31/17 6:39:08 PM
#94:


voltch posted...
Ok have I been using the wrong avenue to try and get Halloween Devil?

She's supposed to drop on the 30AP stage right?


Yeah. Only a 1% drop rate though, so there's a good chance you won't get it even if you do the quest a hundred times.

...assuming you actually mean Halloween Princess and not Little Halloween Devil, of course (you have to roll for Devil).
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swordz9
10/31/17 6:43:00 PM
#95:


You want to know something kinda stupid? Even if you dodge Rule Breaker through Jeanne's NP it still removes buffs from the target. I think it might apply to dodge skills too which might explain how Emiya died so fast for me when he should've had 2 more dodge left
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GANON1025
10/31/17 6:45:17 PM
#96:


I know it removed the guts from my Kintoki, meaning he died instead of getting back up with a little bit of health.
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Mac Arrowny
10/31/17 7:46:03 PM
#97:


Rule Breaker ignores defense iirc
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swordz9
10/31/17 7:55:31 PM
#98:


Still no luck on this essence drop. Just gonna have to wait like 2~ hours and clear the party for the apple. I must've played the main quests and Party quests with a chance to drop an essence around 100 times between them all and nothing. 1-2% drop rates in any game are just super shitty to players and I don't get why developers can't seem to realize this. I mean if you want gacha rates that low fine, but don't make the drop rates equally terrible. That's the kind of anti-fun thing that gets people to leave games
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Lopen
10/31/17 9:30:08 PM
#99:


Pretty cool. Beat the gauntlet battle only losing Guest Gilgamesh (died to Tamamo attrition) and Kojirou (died to a Rule Breaker)

Did it with

L80 Jeanne (MVP, really. So many NPs to tank and so much healing)
L85 Kojirou (some clutch bursts and giving Gilgamesh stars)
L85 Gilgamesh (general damage source)
L70 Altera (cleanup)
L70 Medusa (got like one attack in)
L61 Kiyohime (didn't actually reach the field)

The main trick with Medea is to do some good damage to her if at all possible before killing her backup so she wastes some of her multiple actions on Argon Coin due to being lower on hp. She's really the only tricky one if you bring a strong Archer who can kill off Balmung man quickly (or have a strong single target NP to use on him)
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Raka_Putra
10/31/17 10:20:09 PM
#100:


Whew, that was fun and challenging.
I brought Cu Proto, Tamamo, Support Gil, Arash, Drake, and Ushiwakamaru.

Arash and Ushi basically did nothing. Ushi got cheesed by Kiyohime. >_>

Tamamo was helpful in keeping the front line alive...until Kiyohime got her NP off.

In the end only Cu Proto was left alive lol. Awesome cockroach.
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swordz9
10/31/17 11:40:31 PM
#101:


Oh my god a gold drop....yeah fuck you Atalanta I don't want an Archer monument. Oh well guess I won't be maxing the Princess essence out
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