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ProfitProphet 10/30/17 7:36:40 PM #101: |
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StealThisSheen 10/30/17 7:38:15 PM #102: |
Mr Lasastryke posted...
StealThisSheen posted...Can't make sense of thinking "Well, you should assume it's more likely that they didn't get the instructions somehow than they just didn't follow them, and so you should feel bad" otherwise. And again, my argument is that it's not the customer's job to find out who screwed up first when 90% of the time it's the driver. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MariaTaylor 10/30/17 7:38:45 PM #103: |
StealThisSheen posted...
If I do a shitty job, my boss isn't gonna keep paying me for very long, so... Maybe tips do make up most of what they make, but if they're doing a shitty job, why pay 'em? yeah if I screwed up my job there would be consequences. not sure why delivery drivers were granted this special position of protected class where they can continue to be paid even when doing a bad job, and also the customer has to subsidize their living wage instead of their employer. --- ~* Why can't anyone else see the walls? ~* https://i.imgur.com/wc4HQ5x.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mac Arrowny 10/30/17 7:39:12 PM #104: |
Why would you not think it's his fault? He would have said something to Maria if he didn't get the note when chastised for it.
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StealThisSheen 10/30/17 7:40:23 PM #105: |
I mean, if you'd prefer me to say the argument of "You don't know who screwed up even though it's most likely the driver so you should just tip anyway" is also stupid, I will.
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Mac Arrowny 10/30/17 7:42:37 PM #106: |
That's not replying to you.
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StealThisSheen 10/30/17 7:43:13 PM #107: |
Mac Arrowny posted...
That's not replying to you. I know. I was adding an extra reply to Lasa, sorry. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 10/30/17 7:43:57 PM #108: |
Should've just quoted "That's not replying to you"
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MariaTaylor 10/30/17 7:45:05 PM #109: |
I'm actually certain that it was the driver who screwed up, so yeah. it's a really pointless angle to argue. I mean, for like the fifteenth time already, I said something to him last time about how I put special directions and he didn't follow them. and I order from this place ALL THE TIME. all of the other drivers get my special directions every time I order. they are printed right on the receipt. in order for the same driver to mess up consecutive times when delivering to the same place and have it not be his fault, and also not respond with something along the lines of 'oh I didn't get the directions' the original time would be one massively huge cosmic coincidence which should be beyond the fathoming of any mortal mind (aside from the great dipshit12)
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StealThisSheen 10/30/17 7:46:56 PM #110: |
MariaTaylor posted...
I'm actually certain that it was the driver who screwed up, so yeah. it's a really pointless angle to argue. I mean, for like the fifteenth time already, I said something to him last time about how I put special directions and he didn't follow them. and I order from this place ALL THE TIME. all of the other drivers get my special directions every time I order. they are printed right on the receipt. in order for the same driver to mess up consecutive times when delivering to the same place and have it not be his fault, and also not respond with something along the lines of 'oh I didn't get the directions' the original time would be one massively huge cosmic coincidence which should be beyond the fathoming of any mortal mind (aside from the great dipshit12) Did you check to find out what kind of day he was having first Maybe he had a fight with his girlfriend Maybe his dog died Maybe he stepped on some Legos barefoot You don't know so you probably should have tipped --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MariaTaylor 10/30/17 7:49:09 PM #111: |
yes I realize the error of my ways now
contrast story. I went to my favorite deli for lunch today. they are one of those types of places where you get a card that they stamp each time you eat, and after 10 times you get a free sandwich. today was my free sandwich day, and they included drinks and a side dish even though that's not actually included as part of the free sandwich. --- ~* Why can't anyone else see the walls? ~* https://i.imgur.com/wc4HQ5x.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Asagi_Igawa 10/30/17 7:53:47 PM #112: |
Thats nice.
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MariaTaylor 10/30/17 7:55:05 PM #113: |
well I don't know for certain that the 60+ year old owner of the restaurant who works there every day was aware of the free sandwich =/= free entire meal policy and for certain that he did this as a nice gesture. it's entirely possible that he accidentally gave me a free drink and side as a mistake. so I should probably just move forward operating under that assumption.
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lordloki12 10/30/17 8:24:30 PM #114: |
StealThisSheen posted...
lordloki12 posted...If you want to solve a problem you talk to the manager not the driver. Not tipping the driver doesnt solve the problem and in time only makes them hate you as a customer. Not tipping the driver isnt going to solve the problem you think you are solving. You are free to not tip if you want that satisfaction but it wont actually fix anything. If you want to fix the problem you have to talk to the manager. Let them chew out the driver or fix a busted system. --- [ 1 ] [ 10 ] [ 7 ] [ 12 ] [ 9 ] [ 19 ] [ 5 ] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 10/30/17 8:27:04 PM #115: |
What if the problem you're trying to solve is millennial drivers feeling entitled to tips they haven't earned
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lordloki12 10/30/17 8:30:31 PM #116: |
Then you would be fighting a losing battle in this country. But have at it.
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lordloki12 10/30/17 8:35:49 PM #117: |
MariaTaylor posted...
he asked to see my ID which I had left upstairs, so I had to go back up 3 flights of stairs to get it. despite the fact that no driver ever before has asked to see it. not even from this place which I had ordered from over a dozen times in the past. Sorry they verified your ID for what I presume was a credit card purchase. Also you tend to throw in a lot of dipshits for someone who isnt angry about any of this. --- [ 1 ] [ 10 ] [ 7 ] [ 12 ] [ 9 ] [ 19 ] [ 5 ] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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davidponte 10/30/17 8:37:20 PM #118: |
I've ordered a lot of delivery from a lot of different places and have never been asked to see an ID on a credit card purchase.
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Asagi_Igawa 10/30/17 8:38:32 PM #119: |
Yeah me neither
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Lopen 10/30/17 8:38:41 PM #120: |
lordloki12 posted...
Then you would be fighting a losing battle in this country. That much, I can tell. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lordloki12 10/30/17 8:50:16 PM #121: |
Asagi_Igawa posted...
Yeah me neither Should be all but we are pretty lazy with protecting ourselves from theft when the trade off is convenience. --- [ 1 ] [ 10 ] [ 7 ] [ 12 ] [ 9 ] [ 19 ] [ 5 ] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MariaTaylor 10/30/17 8:59:58 PM #122: |
lordloki12 posted...
Sorry they verified your ID for what I presume was a credit card purchase. Also you tend to throw in a lot of dipshits for someone who isnt angry about any of this. I don't have to be angry to call you a dipshit, I just have to think you're a dipshit and not care if it upsets you --- ~* Why can't anyone else see the walls? ~* https://i.imgur.com/wc4HQ5x.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MariaTaylor 10/30/17 9:02:28 PM #123: |
I mean you're acting like a dipshit, surely you could see how this might lead people to start thinking that you're a dipshit
although to be fair you've advocated pretty hard against the idea of personal responsibility so it's entirely possible that you believe in a world where someone can act like a dipshit and not get called one --- ~* Why can't anyone else see the walls? ~* https://i.imgur.com/wc4HQ5x.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranzonEx 10/30/17 9:02:39 PM #124: |
MariaTaylor posted...
he asked to see my ID which I had left upstairs, so I had to go back up 3 flights of stairs to get it. despite the fact that no driver ever before has asked to see it. not even from this place which I had ordered from over a dozen times in the past. you should have just not accepted the food and let him go explain to his boss --- 2 line break(s), 160 characters allowed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lordloki12 10/30/17 9:07:16 PM #125: |
MariaTaylor posted...
I mean you're acting like a dipshit, surely you could see how this might lead people to start thinking that you're a dipshit You can keep holding on to that crutch all you want it just makes it easier to see why the driver made you go back upstairs to get your ID. --- [ 1 ] [ 10 ] [ 7 ] [ 12 ] [ 9 ] [ 19 ] [ 5 ] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 10/30/17 9:09:31 PM #126: |
lordloki12 posted...
StealThisSheen posted...lordloki12 posted...If you want to solve a problem you talk to the manager not the driver. Not tipping the driver doesnt solve the problem and in time only makes them hate you as a customer. The problem is "Not wanting to tip for shitty service." I'd say not tipping solves that pretty nicely. The issue is that you seem to think even shitty service is still entitled to a tip, which isn't the case. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MariaTaylor 10/30/17 9:10:58 PM #127: |
let me be serious for a moment, I'm actually going to stop now because I feel legitimately bad for picking on you right now. at this point it's like repeatedly punching a toddler.
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lordloki12 10/30/17 9:27:30 PM #128: |
StealThisSheen posted...
lordloki12 posted...StealThisSheen posted...lordloki12 posted...If you want to solve a problem you talk to the manager not the driver. Not tipping the driver doesnt solve the problem and in time only makes them hate you as a customer. The problem is the shitty service. If you want better service you have to talk to the manager. There are people who don't ever tip no matter the service so not tipping doesn't send the message you think it does. You can do both but not talking to the manager means nothing gets fixed. --- [ 1 ] [ 10 ] [ 7 ] [ 12 ] [ 9 ] [ 19 ] [ 5 ] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lordloki12 10/30/17 9:33:57 PM #129: |
MariaTaylor posted...
let me be serious for a moment, I'm actually going to stop now because I feel legitimately bad for picking on you right now. at this point it's like repeatedly punching a toddler. Insults are all you got huh? --- [ 1 ] [ 10 ] [ 7 ] [ 12 ] [ 9 ] [ 19 ] [ 5 ] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raka_Putra 10/30/17 9:54:46 PM #130: |
What kinda restaurant asks for your ID to deliver lol, maybe that guy was just a Mook for an identity theft ring.
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StealThisSheen 10/30/17 10:09:32 PM #132: |
lordloki12 posted...
The problem is the shitty service. If you want better service you have to talk to the manager. There are people who don't ever tip no matter the service so not tipping doesn't send the message you think it does. You can do both but not talking to the manager means nothing gets fixed. If it's just one or two times, there's not really any point to "sending a message." Tipping is a reward for good service. If somebody gives shitty service, you just don't tip them. If they do it continuously/it becomes a problem, then you raise it to the manager, sure. You're making this out to be a bigger deal than it is. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr Lasastryke 10/30/17 10:12:00 PM #133: |
also, talking to the manager doesn't necessarily fix anything either because maybe the manager doesn't give a shit about your complaint.
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Colegreen_c12 10/30/17 10:17:02 PM #134: |
lordloki12 posted...
The problem is the shitty service. If you want better service you have to talk to the manager. There are people who don't ever tip no matter the service so not tipping doesn't send the message you think it does. You can do both but not talking to the manager means nothing gets fixed. If you really want better service, order from a better place. Nothing talks like money does in a business --- DPOblivion beat us all. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raka_Putra 10/30/17 10:18:06 PM #135: |
Maybe if you're that bothered, you should contact the manager.
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ProfitProphet 10/30/17 11:05:28 PM #136: |
UltimaterializerX posted...
I've only ever not tipped someone four times, and all four were people blatantly not doing their job and/or doing something so fucking dumb that the guy should have been fired on the spot. Just in case you have him on ignore --- Fortune tellers make a killing nowadays. http://i.imgur.com/SPJAEN5.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lordloki12 10/31/17 12:16:33 AM #137: |
StealThisSheen posted...
lordloki12 posted...The problem is the shitty service. If you want better service you have to talk to the manager. There are people who don't ever tip no matter the service so not tipping doesn't send the message you think it does. You can do both but not talking to the manager means nothing gets fixed. It was a big enough deal for Maria to create this topic after the second time. I'm just trying to explain the best way to handle it. Mr Lasastryke posted... also, talking to the manager doesn't necessarily fix anything either because maybe the manager doesn't give a shit about your complaint. Definitely a possibility and probably the quickest way to get to Colegreen's suggestion. Colegreen_c12 posted... lordloki12 posted...The problem is the shitty service. If you want better service you have to talk to the manager. There are people who don't ever tip no matter the service so not tipping doesn't send the message you think it does. You can do both but not talking to the manager means nothing gets fixed. These days with all the options for food in even the smallest of towns finding a new place should be pretty easy too. --- [ 1 ] [ 10 ] [ 7 ] [ 12 ] [ 9 ] [ 19 ] [ 5 ] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 10/31/17 1:40:12 AM #138: |
I mean, these things don't have to be mutually exclusive with not tipping the guy, in any case.
You can always not tip the guy and find a new place or not tip the guy and inform the management Better to have more bases covered than less. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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