Current Events > As a Duel Links player, I tried real Yugioh for the 1st time and got btfo

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NeonOctopus
10/30/17 7:01:02 AM
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I tried YGOPro, used a default deck and tried online and got my ass kicked >_> I had no clue what was going on lol. Opponent was shuffling cards around the field for like 3 minutes before my turn, stacking cards under other cards, etc. I looked up all those weird mechanics like Synchro, XYZ, Pendulum, Link, etc. Synchro and XYZ isn't too bad too understand, but Pendulum and especially Link summons are fucking complicated at times.

I think I'll just stick with the Duel Links format for now >_> It's way simpler and only uses the mechanics from the OG anime (Fusion, Ritual, etc.). Plus duels are super quick since they're using the speed duel format.
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NeonOctopus
10/30/17 8:15:16 AM
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Doe
10/30/17 8:17:41 AM
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Imagine not playing Pendulum Magicians
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KingTumbleweed
10/30/17 8:20:37 AM
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What were you expecting when you jump into a duel with a random without practicing?
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tremain07
10/30/17 8:21:47 AM
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You got your ass kicked by SPYRALs didn't you?
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NeonOctopus
10/30/17 8:46:49 AM
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KingTumbleweed posted...
What were you expecting when you jump into a duel with a random without practicing?

Im pretty good at Duel Links so i figured it would translate over. Plus I thought the heart of the cards would guide me >_>
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tremain07
10/30/17 8:51:19 AM
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Duel links has a severely limited card pool and mat, gives you only 20 cards to make a deck along with only 5 cards for an extra deck,tho. If anything, a format like that allows for some of the more shitty archetypes like Red Eyes to sudddenly become game breakers
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ZombiePelican
10/30/17 8:53:50 AM
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NeonOctopus
10/30/17 8:55:07 AM
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I do like the small card pool that slowly grows every month. It gives me time to see how every card works >_>
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soulunison2
10/30/17 9:11:26 AM
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Nani my lad

We havent even got XYZ man and youre getting btfo by link summoning lol
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NeonOctopus
10/30/17 9:12:31 AM
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soulunison2 posted...
Nani my lad

We havent even got XYZ man and youre getting btfo by link summoning lol

We have those contact fusion monster that has xyz in the name for some reason though >_>
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soulunison2
10/30/17 9:14:31 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
soulunison2 posted...
Nani my lad

We havent even got XYZ man and youre getting btfo by link summoning lol

We have those contact fusion monster that has xyz in the name for some reason though >_>


Its not really the same lol
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darkbuster
10/30/17 9:16:04 AM
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Be thankful you were never introduced to Shooting Quasar Turbo. You'll quit plenty fast when your opponent's one turns three Quasars, a Shooting Star, & Cyber Dragon Infinity.
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NeonOctopus
10/30/17 12:38:51 PM
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Vermander
10/30/17 12:40:17 PM
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Real Yugioh is complicated and full of gimmicks
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Doe
10/30/17 12:45:26 PM
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darkbuster posted...
Be thankful you were never introduced to Shooting Quasar Turbo. You'll quit plenty fast when your opponent's one turns three Quasars, a Shooting Star, & Cyber Dragon Infinity.

I don't think that was ever particularly reliable
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El Mexicano Texano
10/30/17 12:48:57 PM
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I just don't get pendulums but I enjoy the rest of it, I have a low budget XYZ deck that works great, an exodia deck and a synchro deck, they all work well with the current link format. As for Dual Links what I don't like is that you can win in about 2-4 turns....maybe 6000 life points wouldn't be that bad....
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MB2012
10/30/17 12:49:20 PM
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It keeps getting more and more complex because they keep having to add new summoning types every five years.
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Doe
10/30/17 12:49:37 PM
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Pendulum is the most balanced mechanic ever introduced into the series
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NeonOctopus
10/30/17 1:37:45 PM
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El Mexicano Texano posted...
I just don't get pendulums but I enjoy the rest of it, I have a low budget XYZ deck that works great, an exodia deck and a synchro deck, they all work well with the current link format. As for Dual Links what I don't like is that you can win in about 2-4 turns....maybe 6000 life points wouldn't be that bad....

Yeah, I wish there was more life points. Now that it's easy to get 1900-2100 level 4 beaters on the field, you can lose half your life points in 1 turn >_>
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Darklit_Minuet
10/30/17 1:39:16 PM
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You could win by combining the six pieces of Exodia
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NeonOctopus
10/30/17 1:41:49 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
You could win by combining the six pieces of Exodia

6?
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AlisLandale
10/30/17 1:42:38 PM
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Duel Links feels a lot like the old meta because games can last more than three turns and can get pretty grindy.

Modern YuGiOh has been largely decided by opening hands for a while. It's ironic because the IRL format uses twice as many cards and life points lol.

If you want to try "IRL" yugioh, find a decklist you like and try to find people to play with casually. The new mechanics are actually really simple once you get over the initial learning curve.
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Darklit_Minuet
10/30/17 1:45:49 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
You could win by combining the six pieces of Exodia

6?

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NeonOctopus
10/30/17 1:55:53 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
NeonOctopus posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
You could win by combining the six pieces of Exodia

6?

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/691/377/bf2.png

lol
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Doe
10/30/17 2:07:05 PM
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There were rumors that they were gonna make LP 16,000. I was so hype. Instead they killed half the decks in the game but left the meta at that moment untouched
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Kyurem-BW
10/30/17 2:07:18 PM
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pendulem is easy you need 2 in your hand the one you place on the left gets the blue and the one set on red gets the red. you can then summon all normal/effect monsters between those from your hand and special deck. pendulum summoned monsters (in anime not sure in tcg) get sent to extra deck when destroyed to be pendulum summoned again

xyz you place 2 same lved monsters from your field under the xyz you are summoning

example of an xyz from a pendulum

*eyes turn red*

using pp turntoad and pp cheermole to set the pendulum scale.
now i am allowed to summon lv 4 monsters all at the same time

come on out pp camelump and pp silverlump

with those i build the overlay network to xyz summon dark rebellion xyz dragon
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NeonOctopus
10/30/17 2:08:50 PM
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uhhhhhhhhh

que?

btw, when you pendulum summon, di you immediately discard the pendulum cards or do they stay there forever? Also, wtf is up with them going to the extra deck instead of the grave yard? >_>
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Doe
10/30/17 2:10:56 PM
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I dunno why he talked about Xyz from a Pendulum because Pendulum monsters are still just monsters

Xyz Pendulum on the other hand
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AIDSbeam
10/30/17 2:12:41 PM
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your fault for playing a non-mtg tcg
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Doe
10/30/17 2:14:47 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
uhhhhhhhhh

que?

btw, when you pendulum summon, di you immediately discard the pendulum cards or do they stay there forever? Also, wtf is up with them going to the extra deck instead of the grave yard? >_>

They are like continuous spell cards. You could use them once again on the following turn(s).

They go to the top of the extra deck because they keep returning to the field "like a swinging pendulum." It's a bit frustrating sometimes but it's also surprisingly well thought out for Konami. If you could only Pendulum Summon from hand then they would be worthless because setting the scales is already a -2. But if you could Pendulum from graveyard you could abuse it ridiculously hard

master Rules 4 introduced Extra Monster Zones though which sadly broke many Pendulum decks outright showing that Konami never takes two steps forward at a time
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Kyurem-BW
10/30/17 2:18:38 PM
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Doe posted...
I dunno why he talked about Xyz from a Pendulum because Pendulum monsters are still just monsters

Xyz Pendulum on the other hand

the episode a few weeks ago.

was explaining how you can use a pendulum to easily create an xyz

and how turntoad has a blue 3 and cheermole has a red 5 so you can special summon all between which is only lv4

NeonOctopus posted...
btw, when you pendulum summon, di you immediately discard the pendulum cards or do they stay there forever? Also, wtf is up with them going to the extra deck instead of the grave yard? >_>

new spots on the field. they stay and are treated as spells so they can be returned to hand with the likes of giant trunade or destroyed with the likes of mystical space typhoon. also no new ones can be placed if there is already a scale set so you are stuck with it til one is removed from the field and you can activate the pendulum scale only once per turn.
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Doe
10/30/17 2:20:02 PM
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Kyurem-BW posted...
the episode a few weeks ago

Y-you're not watching a dub are you
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Kyurem-BW
10/30/17 2:20:52 PM
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the one on nktn.
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darkbuster
10/30/17 4:32:49 PM
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Kyurem-BW posted...
the one on nktn.


I've long since come to terms that if I want to properly enjoy the Yugioh anime, it's pretty much a minimum of subs or bust.

Now, as for annoying new meta BS, Trickstars will go straight to the top of the list. YPro hasn't even incorporated Links yet, & they're already doing such ridiculous shenanigans as wiping out your entire hand as soon as they get started; if they go first, your only hope is a hand trap. I'm certain they'll be just as annoying as prime era Lightsworn & Shaddoll, once they've got their full supports.
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yusiko
10/30/17 4:36:18 PM
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Use trickstars
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Doe
10/30/17 4:38:02 PM
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Yeah one of the best parts of Arc V is the soundtrack which I doubt the dub has
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darkbuster
10/30/17 4:42:15 PM
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Doe posted...
Yeah one of the best parts of Arc V is the soundtrack which I doubt the dub has


Pendulum of Souls just gives so much weight to Yuya's big moments. I tried watching the dub just for comparison sake... Yeah, I didn't do it again.
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tremain07
10/30/17 5:16:05 PM
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Too bad none of those moments mattered because of shitty spiteful and half assed writing. Doing it for Enlightenment Paladin, okay, cool, Yuya never uses tuning magician or Enlightenment Paladin again. Playing it for Yuya vs Yuri? fine, but the duel was ultimately meaningless and despite the great voice acting, Yuri has no character and Yuya's character went to the gutter and never came back and the duel was ultimately pointless anyway no matter who won it.

Yusei's character just flat out stopped existing but good lord I'd rather take boring ass friendship jesus over daddy issues from a spoiled little shit who was so arrogant and ignorant of others feelings and thoughts he just obnoxiously preached his do nothing bored philosophy at people til they agreed with him. It might be even more insulting because the show and the character himself called that shallow shit out for the self rightious bullshit it was and yet they just kept doing it.
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yusiko
10/30/17 5:22:03 PM
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yuzu spent the first half of the series as basically the co-lead and many fans considered her the best female character the series ever had. it seemed that the series had finally realized that competent female leads were popular and if you take a competent female lead and turn them into a generic cheerleader (hi akiza) it will annoy fans.

but then in the second half of the series she loses the only duel she gets and is pretty much completely irrelevant and could be replaced by a lamp post they need to rescue.

vrains now has Aoi a competent well developed female lead character
but fans have been burned before so we are just waiting to see how long it takes her to be made useless despite her using a deck which in real life is one of the strongest decks in the game
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Kyurem-BW
10/30/17 6:17:03 PM
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i really stopped playing tcg after they banned gateway of the six and limited macro cosmo. made my 2 favorite decks useless. just was helping explain what i knew of pendulum
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tremain07
10/30/17 6:27:47 PM
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yusiko posted...
yuzu spent the first half of the series as basically the co-lead and many fans considered her the best female character the series ever had. it seemed that the series had finally realized that competent female leads were popular and if you take a competent female lead and turn them into a generic cheerleader (hi akiza) it will annoy fans.

but then in the second half of the series she loses the only duel she gets and is pretty much completely irrelevant and could be replaced by a lamp post they need to rescue.

vrains now has Aoi a competent well developed female lead character
but fans have been burned before so we are just waiting to see how long it takes her to be made useless despite her using a deck which in real life is one of the strongest decks in the game

Yeah, I saw the spoilers that she's getting some action again but I'll wait til episode 52, apparently that's when the Hanoi plot is suppose to end and we get a new opening so let's see if Aoi will be allowed to do shit still. I still find it pretty hilarious that despite her being a linkest her link monsters are not worth using at all in Trickstars they do absolutely fine as a main deck with no extra deck summoning methods. I do wish Go will go the fuck away,tho.
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yusiko
10/30/17 6:37:01 PM
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tremain07 posted...
Yeah, I saw the spoilers that she's getting some action again but I'll wait til episode 52, apparently that's when the Hanoi plot is suppose to end and we get a new opening so let's see if Aoi will be allowed to do shit still. I still find it pretty hilarious that despite her being a linkest her link monsters are not worth using at all in Trickstars they do absolutely fine as a main deck with no extra deck summoning methods. I do wish Go will go the fuck away,tho.


yeah the next episode will be the start of her next duel
trickstars need a good link monster and a main deck monster that is good at getting link monster out without getting rid of the useful main deck monsters
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