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scorpion41
10/31/17 8:46:03 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKcWu0tsiZM

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The Admiral
10/31/17 8:46:22 PM
#153:


Iodine posted...
DirtyAim posted...
Alucard188 posted...
I ignore anyone who uses "cisgender" unironically.

Eh, it makes sense to use it when transgender is in the conversation.

It simply means identifying with the Gender you were born with.


Nah, what it really is an attempt to normalize transgenderism as though it's simply an alternative gender expression instead of a medical condition. We don't need a unique word for that anymore than we need a word to describe people who are Schizophrenic or anything else.
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DirtyAim
10/31/17 8:51:50 PM
#154:


Iodine posted...
It simply means identifying with the Gender you were born with.

Yes, I know. There is a word for non-diabetics other than "healthy" or "normal" - it's "nondiabetic". "Cisgender" could just have easily been "nontransgender", except that the prefix 'cis' is equivalent to the prefixes 'nontrans'.
I don't know why there is so much resistance to the term.
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darkjedilink
10/31/17 9:45:20 PM
#156:


shockthemonkey posted...
The Admiral posted...
Iodine posted...
DirtyAim posted...
Alucard188 posted...
I ignore anyone who uses "cisgender" unironically.

Eh, it makes sense to use it when transgender is in the conversation.

It simply means identifying with the Gender you were born with.

Nah, what it really is an attempt to normalize transgenderism as though it's simply an alternative gender expression instead of a medical condition. We don't need a unique word for that anymore than we need a word to describe people who are Schizophrenic or anything else.

lmao I cant believe youre an adult

Yeah, because actual reality is so childish.
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That_Happened
10/31/17 10:51:15 PM
#157:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
That_Happened posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
I don't know why you're under the impression that people's lives are easier if other people who happen to share their race are doing well, but it's false.

Actually it's quite true. That's what "networking" is built around. Our social groups are almost exclusively other white people,

Actually, you're wrong. Not all white people know each other. When a spot at my job opens up, I recommend people who are good, not other white dudes because they're white dudes.

Actually, I'm right. And it's not a matter of "all white people knowing each other." We don't have to. Whether you wish to believe it or not, networking helps white guys more than any other racial/gender group, and it's because our social groups are almost exclusively other white people. We don't have to be "obsessed with race" in order to have mostly white friends. We just do.

P.S. No one gives a fuck what you personally do. I'm talking trends, not "Mal_Fet specifically".
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That_Happened
10/31/17 10:53:31 PM
#158:


darkjedilink posted...
Racists like @That_Happened

Said the guy who repeatedly defends the actions of Neo Nazis. Now shut the fuck up before I take your second wife like I did your first.
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Antifar
11/01/17 12:34:19 PM
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I, for one, am stunned to see Democrats taking a clumsy, hamfisted approach to address an issue.
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creativerealms
11/01/17 12:37:00 PM
#161:


I know it's likely real but you realize this is easy to fake?
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darkphoenix181
11/01/17 1:28:46 PM
#162:


@Conflict posted...

It is funny. You just don't like it because it's at your expense. After all you're basically the king of mindlessly accusing everyone of being triggered and making yourself look like a lunatic


nope it is not

btw it isn't at my expense, I don't burn my meat or support Trump

your last line also makes no sense
most the time I say someone is triggered it is as a joke, but maybe you don't feel it is a funny joke because...well you know..it is at your expense?
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P4wn4g3
11/01/17 2:17:27 PM
#163:


Antifar posted...
I, for one, am stunned to see Democrats taking a clumsy, hamfisted approach to address an issue.

I see your faith in the powers that be is not strong
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Sephiroth1288
11/01/17 3:06:45 PM
#164:


That_Happened posted...
Actually, I'm right. And it's not a matter of "all white people knowing each other." We don't have to. Whether you wish to believe it or not, networking helps white guys more than any other racial/gender group

How the hell do you figure
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darkjedilink
11/01/17 3:22:46 PM
#165:


@That_Happened literally says networking is racist as an excuse for anti-white racism.
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thelovefist
11/01/17 3:27:30 PM
#166:


DirtyAim posted...
Iodine posted...
It simply means identifying with the Gender you were born with.

Yes, I know. There is a word for non-diabetics other than "healthy" or "normal" - it's "nondiabetic". "Cisgender" could just have easily been "nontransgender", except that the prefix 'cis' is equivalent to the prefixes 'nontrans'.
I don't know why there is so much resistance to the term.

Because only snowflakes use it.
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That_Happened
11/01/17 3:41:06 PM
#167:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
That_Happened posted...
Actually, I'm right. And it's not a matter of "all white people knowing each other." We don't have to. Whether you wish to believe it or not, networking helps white guys more than any other racial/gender group

How the hell do you figure

...I explained it repeatedly. How is it that you're still not able to follow?

1. We make up the vast majority of positions of power and authority and make most of the decisions about hiring/firing.
2. Some exceptions aside, our social circles and professional circles tend to be extremely white as well.
3. Our families (obviously) are mostly white as well.
4. Therefore, we know more people in those positions of authority, and most of us know a guy (or know a guy who knows a guy) who can pull some strings and push us to the front of the line when it comes to jobs. We also are more likely to help other white people below us because most of our relationships are naturally with other white people and not minorities. This is not something that happens for all of us, and this has nothing to do with "How Mal_Fet specifically (and dishonestly) treats people" but statistically over the entire population it causes a huge gap between us and minorities.

And note that I'm not calling networking "racist" and I don't think we're somehow evil for it. But it's the nature of being a part of the majority group with the most power and influence. This has been documented in books by author Nancy DiTomaso ("The American Non-Dilemma: Racial Inequality Without Racism"), writings by Algernon Austin (director at the Economic Policy Institute), and various studies from Harvard and Princeton.
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Sephiroth1288
11/01/17 4:14:30 PM
#168:


That_Happened posted...
1. We make up the vast majority of positions of power and authority and make most of the decisions about hiring/firing.

Because white people are the majority population, not because of racist networking

That_Happened posted...
2. Some exceptions aside, our social circles and professional circles tend to be extremely white as well.
3. Our families (obviously) are mostly white as well.

Isn't it generally true of ALL people that they associate mainly with people of their own race?

That_Happened posted...
4. Therefore, we know more people in those positions of authority, and most of us know a guy (or know a guy who knows a guy) who can pull some strings and push us to the front of the line when it comes to jobs. We also are more likely to help other white people below us because most of our relationships are naturally with other white people and not minorities. This is not something that happens for all of us, and this has nothing to do with "How Mal_Fet specifically (and dishonestly) treats people" but statistically over the entire population it causes a huge gap between us and minorities.

Lmao and now you're calling me a liar.

At the end of the day, you are defending racial discrimination in order to fulfill an imaginary ideal quota of skin colors. Even if we accept your suppositions as a fact, there's not a limited number of times you can forward an email. Even if a white person mostly knows other white people, they would presumably forward the job offer to anyone they think would be good for the job, which would include minorities. Suggesting that a minority is less likely to get the job by merit if there's more white people competing for it is, well, a lot more racist than anything you've ever accused me of.
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That_Happened
11/01/17 4:29:37 PM
#169:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Because white people are the majority population, not because of racist networking

That_Happened posted...
And note that I'm not calling networking "racist" and I don't think we're somehow evil for it. But it's the nature of being a part of the majority group with the most power and influence.

Read.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
Suggesting that a minority is less likely to get the job by merit if there's more white people competing for it is, well, a lot more racist than anything you've ever accused me of.

I'm not "suggesting" it. I'm telling you that literally we are favored in practice. We are not hired only because of our merits but also because we know the right people. We regularly get a leg up on the competition because of who we know, and it helps us even when we're not as qualified. We often get jobs we don't deserve at all. This is well documented.

Seeking out minority applicants is just a small step toward leveling that playing field and even then we're still favored, which is why I don't feel discriminated against in the slightest. Even IF the DNC looks for more minority candidates I still know the most likely person to get the job will be a straight white male.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
Lmao and now you're calling me a liar.

You are one of the biggest liars on this site. Yes.
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Sephiroth1288
11/01/17 4:31:41 PM
#170:


That_Happened posted...
I'm not "suggesting" it. I'm telling you that literally we are favored in practice. We are not hired only because of our merits but also because we know the right people. We regularly get a leg up on the competition because of who we know, and it helps us even when we're not as qualified.

Read.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
Even if a white person mostly knows other white people, they would presumably forward the job offer to anyone they think would be good for the job, which would include minorities. Suggesting that a minority is less likely to get the job by merit if there's more white people competing for it is, well, a lot more racist than anything you've ever accused me of.


That_Happened posted...
Seeking out minority applicants is just a small step toward leveling that playing field and even then we're still favored, which is why I don't feel discriminated against in the slightest.

It doesn't matter how you feel. This is racial discrimination.
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That_Happened
11/01/17 4:40:33 PM
#171:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Even if a white person mostly knows other white people, they would presumably forward the job offer to anyone they think would be good for the job,

This has been statistically proven to be untrue. We overwhelmingly help out other white people, at a rate that cannot be handwaved due to population numbers.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
It doesn't matter how you feel.

Considering the DNC will get their applicants the way they've asked, and will make their hiring decisions in a fair manner, the truth is it doesn't matter how you feel. You can be paranoid all you want about how "unfair" this is to us, and it won't change a thing. Sucks for you I guess.
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Sephiroth1288
11/01/17 4:59:04 PM
#172:


That_Happened posted...
This has been statistically proven to be untrue.

You keep saying this, yet haven't sourced any of these supposed statistics.

That_Happened posted...
Considering the DNC will get their applicants the way they've asked, and will make their hiring decisions in a fair manner, the truth is it doesn't matter how you feel.

How about the Civil Rights Act which outlaws racial discrimination? Does that matter?
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That_Happened
11/01/17 5:07:58 PM
#173:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
You keep saying this, yet haven't sourced any of these supposed statistics.

I gave you the authors, their credentials and their books and studies. Use google if you like. But if you think I'm going to do homework for a pathological liar like you then you're mistaken.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
How about the Civil Rights Act which outlaws racial discrimination? Does that matter?

If you'd like to apply for these DNC jobs feel free. They're gladly accepting straight white male applicants, and they're an equal-opportunity employer. The person who will get hired will probably be someone like us, so why not give it a shot?
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NINExATExSEVEN
11/01/17 5:18:22 PM
#174:


That_Happened posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
You keep saying this, yet haven't sourced any of these supposed statistics.

I gave you the authors, their credentials and their books and studies. Use google if you like. But if you think I'm going to do homework for a pathological liar like you then you're mistaken.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
How about the Civil Rights Act which outlaws racial discrimination? Does that matter?

If you'd like to apply for these DNC jobs feel free. They're gladly accepting straight white male applicants, and they're an equal-opportunity employer. The person who will get hired will probably be someone like us, so why not give it a shot?


So how can we fix this without discrimination against anybody?

I ask this because even if whites do network with each other more, why is that problematic? It's people hiring other people they know. You know what group networks the most out of any demographic and shows extreme conscious bias when hiring?

It's Jewish people. They always actively look for other jews to hire due to religious family ideology, and it's why Jews are astronomically overrepresented in companies and government even though they are such a tiny percentage of the population. So answer this. Should we discriminate againt the jews then to make it more fair for everybody?

Obviously not and that's really the only correct answer. Also one thing you're not taking into consideration is that when it comes to diversity quotas, one group is discriminated against and the other is favored. So whites and heterosexual people are discriminated against and minorities and lgbt are favored. On a wide scale this becomes very problematic.
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That_Happened
11/01/17 5:39:16 PM
#175:


NINExATExSEVEN posted...
So how can we fix this without discrimination against anybody?

"Fix this?" I didn't say anything about fixing it. It doesn't bother me that people network...like I said from the very beginning the fact that networking benefits white people more than any other group is just the nature of living in a country where white people are the majority. What I don't accept is pretending like this DNC email is some type of "discrimination" that actually hurts us. If the employee pool for these DNC jobs changes from 100 straight white males and 10 minorities to 90 straight white males and 20 minorities I don't give a fuck, and that small change in applicants isn't going to swing the hires toward minorities in a major way.

NINExATExSEVEN posted...
It's Jewish people. They always actively look for other jews to hire due to religious family ideology, and it's why Jews are astronomically overrepresented in companies and government even though they are such a tiny percentage of the population. So answer this. Should we discriminate againt the jews then to make it more fair for everybody?

The DNC is run by white people. If a Jewish company decides they want to reach out to people who aren't Jewish, I don't give a fuck. That's their choice. I said this earlier in the topic, too.
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Sephiroth1288
11/01/17 5:57:45 PM
#176:


That_Happened posted...
I gave you the authors, their credentials and their books and studies. Use google if you like. But if you think I'm going to do homework for a pathological liar like you then you're mistaken.

It's up to you to provide evidence for your claims. Google it yourself, if you're so sure you're right.

That_Happened posted...
If you'd like to apply for these DNC jobs feel free. They're gladly accepting straight white male applicants, and they're an equal-opportunity employer.

Right, they just want to promote the job to people based on their sex and race with the specific intention of hiring people who aren't white males.

And that's called discrimination
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That_Happened
11/01/17 6:45:43 PM
#177:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
And that's called discrimination

What's great about this is that you can repeat yourself over and over again, and it will never be true. Cry more, maybe that will help.
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Sephiroth1288
11/01/17 7:15:04 PM
#178:


That_Happened posted...
What's great about this is that you can repeat yourself over and over again, and it will never be true.

discrimination
[dskrimnSH()n]
NOUN

the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex


So when they proactively offer jobs to only people who aren't white specifically because of their skin color, how is that not discrimination as per the above definition?
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Capn Circus
11/01/17 7:32:30 PM
#179:


That Happened, you still haven't explained why it is okay for John not to be forwarded the job opportunity simply because of his race.

Why is it okay to you that someone is being asked not to forward this job to a friend that they know would really be a great fit and be interested in the location/opportunity/specific type of work---all because of their race?

Anyway, no one buys what you're saying and the OP further solidifies what we've known about many liberals---they're the ones who actually care about race. They're the ones that see color and gender. They're the ones who are discriminating.
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Capn Circus
11/01/17 7:42:38 PM
#180:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
That_Happened posted...
What's great about this is that you can repeat yourself over and over again, and it will never be true.

discrimination
[dskrimnSH()n]
NOUN

the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex


So when they proactively offer jobs to only people who aren't white specifically because of their skin color, how is that not discrimination as per the above definition?


He has to jump through hoops for justification of discrimination, much like someone would justify in their head stealing from their boss or company.

"It's okay to discriminate against John and not send him a job opportunity I know he'd be interested in. John is white so, statistically, white people have more privilege and he likely does too. It's okay, I'm sure he'll find another job he likes."

"I'm not actually stealing. I'll withdraw money from the corporate account, but it's just a loan. I'll put the money back in two weeks."

"It's okay if I take take this one shirt. We have a bigger order than usual and they won't all sell. Plus, it's a big company. They won't miss it. I also, I didn't get to take my break yesterday."
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ImTheMacheteGuy
11/01/17 9:13:26 PM
#181:


Capn Circus posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
That_Happened posted...
What's great about this is that you can repeat yourself over and over again, and it will never be true.

NOUN

So when they proactively offer jobs to only people who aren't white specifically because of their skin color, how is that not discrimination as per the above definition?


He has to jump through hoops for justification of discrimination, much like someone would justify in their head stealing from their boss or company.

"It's okay to discriminate against John and not send him a job opportunity I know he'd be interested in. John is white so, statistically, white people have more privilege and he likely does too. It's okay, I'm sure he'll find another job he likes."

"I'm not actually stealing. I'll withdraw money from the corporate account, but it's just a loan. I'll put the money back in two weeks."

"It's okay if I take take this one shirt. We have a bigger order than usual and they won't all sell. Plus, it's a big company. They won't miss it. I also, I didn't get to take my break yesterday."


I refuse to believe anyone actually looks at life this way. I mean come on. Do you really believe that anyone would read this post and find it genuine? How fucking gullible would they have to be? :P
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darkjedilink
11/01/17 9:58:57 PM
#183:


shockthemonkey posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
That_Happened posted...
What's great about this is that you can repeat yourself over and over again, and it will never be true.

discrimination
[dskrimnSH()n]
NOUN

the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex


So when they proactively offer jobs to only people who aren't white specifically because of their skin color, how is that not discrimination as per the above definition?

... you realize the difference between encouraging people to apply and handing them a job, right?

You realize they're literally talking about ONLY advertising the job opening to non-whites, based on nothing more than skin color, right?
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That_Happened
11/01/17 10:07:06 PM
#185:


shockthemonkey posted...
No, theyre not, and thats already been proven wrong in this topic.

Ignore darkjedilink. That guy literally thinks liberals and Obama caused his divorce. Literally. Nucking futs.

Capn Circus posted...
Anyway, no one buys what you're saying and the OP further solidifies what we've known about many liberals---they're the ones who actually care about race. They're the ones that see color and gender. They're the ones who are discriminating.

Yep. Us liberals are the racist ones. Which is why you and Mal_Fet can't seem to keep your accounts from constantly getting suspended for racist shitposting. Because we're the ones with the problem. (snicker)
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jumi
11/01/17 10:11:07 PM
#186:


The sign said straight white males need not apply
So I put on a scarf, adopted a lisp, and went in to ask him why
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Capn Circus
11/01/17 10:13:54 PM
#187:


shockthemonkey posted...
darkjedilink posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
That_Happened posted...
What's great about this is that you can repeat yourself over and over again, and it will never be true.

discrimination
[dskrimnSH()n]
NOUN

the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex


So when they proactively offer jobs to only people who aren't white specifically because of their skin color, how is that not discrimination as per the above definition?

... you realize the difference between encouraging people to apply and handing them a job, right?

You realize they're literally talking about ONLY advertising the job opening to non-whites, based on nothing more than skin color, right?

No, theyre not, and thats already been proven wrong in this topic.


Yes, they are. There may very well be a general posting of the job online. But if the manager who posted that job then sends out an email, further advertising the position and telling people to only forward it to non-whites---that is inherently discrimination.

It's a message sent out by a person of authority (manager) who wants employees and colleagues to only advertise the position to non-whites. If one of those employees or colleagues happened to know a white person that would be very interested in the job, yet does not know about the position, they have been instructed not to tell that white person about the job. This is wrong. This is racist.
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Life Sympathy
11/01/17 10:17:16 PM
#188:


Chief Security Officer, IT Systems Administrator

You NEVER EVER go on anything other than merit for these positions. You do not fuck around with computer security. You so much as give someone an inch at anytime for any reason, you will be fucked and it will be ugly.
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Capn Circus
11/01/17 10:22:13 PM
#189:


That_Happened posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
No, theyre not, and thats already been proven wrong in this topic.

Ignore darkjedilink. That guy literally thinks liberals and Obama caused his divorce. Literally. Nucking futs.

Capn Circus posted...
Anyway, no one buys what you're saying and the OP further solidifies what we've known about many liberals---they're the ones who actually care about race. They're the ones that see color and gender. They're the ones who are discriminating.

Yep. Us liberals are the racist ones. Which is why you and Mal_Fet can't seem to keep your accounts from constantly getting suspended for racist shitposting. Because we're the ones with the problem. (snicker)


Interesting how you never address my point that was argued. And when is the last time you saw my account suspended? If I recall correctly, the last time my account was suspended was before your account was even created.
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Callixtus
11/01/17 10:30:53 PM
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What's funny is they say that diversity is more important than actually getting the job done.
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Capn Circus
11/01/17 10:41:00 PM
#192:


shockthemonkey posted...
Capn Circus posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
darkjedilink posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
That_Happened posted...
What's great about this is that you can repeat yourself over and over again, and it will never be true.

discrimination
[dskrimnSH()n]
NOUN

the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex


So when they proactively offer jobs to only people who aren't white specifically because of their skin color, how is that not discrimination as per the above definition?

... you realize the difference between encouraging people to apply and handing them a job, right?

You realize they're literally talking about ONLY advertising the job opening to non-whites, based on nothing more than skin color, right?

No, theyre not, and thats already been proven wrong in this topic.


Yes, they are. There may very well be a general posting of the job online.

So theyre not only advertising the opening to non-whites.


I see you're following the CNN protocol and only telling half-truths.

Sure, they are not only advertising the opening to non-whites. If you consider a job posting to be advertising. The posting in and of itself is accessible to all races. The manager is doing further advertising, beyond the job posting itself, and is specifically saying do not let white people know about the position and to only inform minorities about the position.

Completely racist and based off of skin color. If someone were to know of a white person interested in the position, they were obviously discouraged to inform that white person.

It's really not too hard to figure out how this job is being further advertised based on race and discouraged of advertisement based on race. It's racist.
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Rika_Furude
11/01/17 10:53:17 PM
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This is why nobody takes sjws, blm and modern feminists seriously
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Capn Circus
11/01/17 10:54:38 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
they are not only advertising the opening to non-whites


Then stop arguing with me when I say that


Is your argument that poor that you can only latch on to short, specific sentences without further analyzing context or addressing anything else? Maybe you should step aside, The Happened was at least writing a few sentences to support his claims.
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That_Happened
11/01/17 10:55:50 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
This is why nobody takes sjws, blm and modern feminists seriously

Aren't you the same person who worries that the sjw agenda is taking over? Can't play both sides of the fence.

Capn Circus posted...
Interesting how you never address my point that was argued. And when is the last time you saw my account suspended?

I thought you were suspended a couple of months ago. Maybe warned. If I'm wrong then I'll admit it. Mal_Fet however has been moderated repeatedly.

Also, to answer your statement about advertising, yes these jobs are posted online. They are on the DNC's website, and on various job-searching websites. No one is stopping straight white men from applying for this job. The manager is saying, "Through these avenues almost all of the resumes we're getting are from straight white males. If any of you in the DNC know some minorities who may not be aware of this job, let them know as we'd like to hear from them too." They're acknowledging the lack of minority representation in the pool of applicants, and they're trying to account for that. That's not illegal no matter how hard you wish it to be.
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Rika_Furude
11/01/17 10:57:36 PM
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Also, regardless of what anyone else itt says, that job posting is illegal. There are no two sides to this argument.
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darkjedilink
11/01/17 10:58:08 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
This is why nobody takes sjws, blm and modern feminists seriously

Except the left, which is why they've lost so much political power that they're almost politically irrelevant.
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That_Happened
11/01/17 11:00:11 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Also, regardless of what anyone else itt says, that job posting is illegal. There are no two sides to this argument.

Cry harder. Maybe then your statement will become true.
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Funbazooka
11/01/17 11:00:51 PM
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It's okay to be white.
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Rika_Furude
11/01/17 11:02:48 PM
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That_Happened posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Also, regardless of what anyone else itt says, that job posting is illegal. There are no two sides to this argument.

Cry harder. Maybe then your statement will become true.

Maybe if you project enough you will convince yourself racial discrimination is ok.
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