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ShinigamiSoul
11/03/17 11:45:49 PM
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Anytime they revealed themselves to people, they always appeared as men.
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Raikuro
11/03/17 11:46:31 PM
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Angels are god's boytoys
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Questionmarktarius
11/03/17 11:46:48 PM
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Alan Rickman is best angel.
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Dash_Harber
11/03/17 11:47:10 PM
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IIRC, they actually appeared as eldritch squid people with seven wings and skin that was on fire.
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ssj3vegeta_
11/03/17 11:47:36 PM
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Questionmarktarius
11/03/17 11:48:14 PM
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ssj3vegeta_ posted...
does dat mean only men go to heaven? D:

It means boobs and hips are just functional modifications.
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Ninja-Yatsu
11/03/17 11:49:35 PM
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Actually, they're pretty much genderless.
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Raikuro
11/03/17 11:50:21 PM
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Ninja-Yatsu posted...
Actually, they're pretty much genderless.

so god's an ass man?
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chill02
11/03/17 11:51:06 PM
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Dash_Harber posted...
IIRC, they actually appeared as eldritch squid people with seven wings and skin that was on fire.


^^^
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DarkChozoGhost
11/03/17 11:57:13 PM
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They have no gender, but prefer to use male pronouns
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Questionmarktarius
11/04/17 12:01:28 AM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
They have no gender, but prefer to use male pronouns

"He" used to be the default in English.
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ToonLinkWithGun
11/04/17 12:02:59 AM
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Some have names. Like Michael and Gabriel. Lucifer too before he got a big head and defied the Lord.
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Zikten
11/04/17 12:08:08 AM
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ssj3vegeta_ posted...
does dat mean only men go to heaven? D:

angels are not dead humans. they were always angels and were never mortal.
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prince_leo
11/04/17 12:08:25 AM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Some have names. Like Michael and Gabriel. Lucifer too before he got a big head and defied the Lord.

interestingly enough, michael has been used as a womans name, peaking in 1975 with 382 girls born that year with that name out of a million
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ToonLinkWithGun
11/04/17 12:09:14 AM
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prince_leo posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Some have names. Like Michael and Gabriel. Lucifer too before he got a big head and defied the Lord.

interestingly enough, michael has been used as a womans name, peaking in 1975 with 382 girls born that year with that name out of a million

Bible predates that by like a kabazilliom years or something
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Zikten
11/04/17 12:11:28 AM
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prince_leo posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Some have names. Like Michael and Gabriel. Lucifer too before he got a big head and defied the Lord.

interestingly enough, michael has been used as a womans name, peaking in 1975 with 382 girls born that year with that name out of a million

yea my dad used to work with a woman named Michael
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ShinigamiSoul
11/04/17 12:11:54 AM
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Ninja-Yatsu posted...
Actually, they're pretty much genderless.

This is strictly concerning appearances, not what they actually are.

Its just interesting that they never appear as women not once throughout the Bible. If the implication is that they are all actually "male", that'd be pretty funny considering how society associates feminine qualities with angels.
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Dash_Harber
11/04/17 12:13:48 AM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
prince_leo posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Some have names. Like Michael and Gabriel. Lucifer too before he got a big head and defied the Lord.

interestingly enough, michael has been used as a womans name, peaking in 1975 with 382 girls born that year with that name out of a million

Bible predates that by like a kabazilliom years or something

Actually like 1,300 or so years. Doesn't really change the fact that it's still before the name's use for females.
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ToonLinkWithGun
11/04/17 12:14:39 AM
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ShinigamiSoul posted...
Ninja-Yatsu posted...
Actually, they're pretty much genderless.

This is strictly concerning appearances, not what they actually are.

Its just interesting that they never appear as women not once throughout the Bible. If the implication is that they are all actually "male", that'd be pretty funny considering how society associates feminine qualities with angels.

Depending on some denominations angels still entertain us regularly in all forms. I've heard stories of women angels.
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Axiom
11/04/17 12:17:01 AM
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The people that wrote the bible were obviously into traps
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Dash_Harber
11/04/17 12:17:49 AM
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Still not as awesome (or useful) as Valkyries, though.
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ShinigamiSoul
11/04/17 12:19:51 AM
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Perhaps they are actually all male, if only so they couldn't procreate. They do have free will like us, so maybe this provision was necessary.

Or the male sex was the default, and they were created before earth and the need for females came along. Hmm.
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Questionmarktarius
11/04/17 12:20:39 AM
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ShinigamiSoul posted...
Perhaps they are actually all male, if only so they couldn't procreate.

Oops!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim
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Dash_Harber
11/04/17 12:22:11 AM
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ShinigamiSoul posted...
Perhaps they are actually all male, if only so they couldn't procreate. They do have free will like us, so maybe this provision was necessary.

Or the male sex was the default, and they were created before earth and the need for females came along. Hmm.


As someone mentioned, the Nephiliam. Literally the reason God said 'fuck it, let's drown this bitch'.
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ShinigamiSoul
11/04/17 12:24:34 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
ShinigamiSoul posted...
Perhaps they are actually all male, if only so they couldn't procreate.

Oops!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim

With each other, I should say. Im aware of Nephilims, thats how i know they CAN procreate. Thus, they are all males to prevent somehting more serious than Giants.
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prince_leo
11/04/17 12:25:58 AM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Bible predates that by like a kabazilliom years or something

well yeah, just going along with the thread
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Dash_Harber
11/04/17 12:28:35 AM
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ShinigamiSoul posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
ShinigamiSoul posted...
Perhaps they are actually all male, if only so they couldn't procreate.

Oops!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim

With each other, I should say. Im aware of Nephilims, thats how i know they CAN procreate. Thus, they are all males to prevent somehting more serious than Giants.

Considering that according to Bible Cannon, females weren't created until after humanity, who were created after angels, meaning that sexual procreation wasn't created until much later than the angels.
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Questionmarktarius
11/04/17 12:29:10 AM
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prince_leo posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Bible predates that by like a kabazilliom years or something

well yeah, just going along with the thread

The Bible places the start date about six thousand years ago.
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dr_zomberg
11/04/17 12:29:35 AM
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ShinigamiSoul posted...
Anytime they revealed themselves to people, they always appeared as men.


or eldritch abominations.
those cute cherubimss that are depicted as little babies with tiny wings and curly hair?
ezekiel describes them as horrifying monsters that have the head of a man, an eagle, a lion and an ox.
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Questionmarktarius
11/04/17 12:31:13 AM
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dr_zomberg posted...
or eldritch abominations.

I'm going with the working theory that Trey Parker and Matt Stone have come the closest to figuring out what God really is.

Possibly also Richard Feynman.
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ShinigamiSoul
11/04/17 12:43:20 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
ShinigamiSoul posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
ShinigamiSoul posted...
Perhaps they are actually all male, if only so they couldn't procreate.

Oops!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim

With each other, I should say. Im aware of Nephilims, thats how i know they CAN procreate. Thus, they are all males to prevent somehting more serious than Giants.

Considering that according to Bible Cannon, females weren't created until after humanity, who were created after angels, meaning that sexual procreation wasn't created until much later than the angels.

And yet, angels have the power to procreate- if only with humans, but not each other- by sexual means or otherworldly.
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C_Pain
11/04/17 12:46:28 AM
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It's almost like the patriarchy has existed for thousands of years
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BlackHorse6969
11/04/17 12:48:02 AM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
They have no gender, but prefer to use male pronouns

wrong. they can switch from male to female as they feel fit. this is evident in SMT. gabriel can transform into gabby and vice versa
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ShinigamiSoul
11/04/17 1:03:18 AM
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They're probly all males and thus unable to procreate with each other because ultimately God knew he'd loose 1/3 of them to Satan one say. The ratio of 2 angels for every 1 demon will never change.
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Questionmarktarius
11/04/17 1:10:50 AM
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ShinigamiSoul posted...
They're probly all males and thus unable to procreate with each other because ultimately God knew he'd loose 1/3 of them to Satan one say. The ratio of 2 angels for every 1 demon will never change.

Being a not-Calvinist, I assume that even God can be surprised sometimes.

If predestination were actually a thing, why even bother? Such implies that even the creator is just playing a part.
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ChromaticAngel
11/04/17 1:14:58 AM
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ShinigamiSoul posted...
Anytime they revealed themselves to people, they always appeared as men.


There are also extremely few female demons and you pretty much have to search through the most obscure Jewish legends to find them.
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Skye Reynolds
11/04/17 1:15:28 AM
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Oh, look. Another one of these topics.

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Questionmarktarius
11/04/17 1:16:56 AM
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I was a lapsed Christian once.
Then, I discovered physics.
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ShinigamiSoul
11/04/17 1:48:38 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
ShinigamiSoul posted...
They're probly all males and thus unable to procreate with each other because ultimately God knew he'd loose 1/3 of them to Satan one say. The ratio of 2 angels for every 1 demon will never change.

Being a not-Calvinist, I assume that even God can be surprised sometimes.

If predestination were actually a thing, why even bother? Such implies that even the creator is just playing a part.

God cant be surprised, lol. An all powerful being could just rewind time and fix any mishaps anyway.

ChromaticAngel posted...
ShinigamiSoul posted...
Anytime they revealed themselves to people, they always appeared as men.


There are also extremely few female demons and you pretty much have to search through the most obscure Jewish legends to find them.

Im looking to find a verse from the bible that may suggest even a female demon or devil, but no luck.
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Questionmarktarius
11/04/17 1:51:24 AM
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ShinigamiSoul posted...
God cant be surprised, lol. An all powerful being could just rewind time and fix any mishaps anyway.

I don't believe that even Yahweh itself is immune to gravity, which somehow defines time.
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ShinigamiSoul
11/04/17 1:55:46 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
ShinigamiSoul posted...
God cant be surprised, lol. An all powerful being could just rewind time and fix any mishaps anyway.

I don't believe that even Yahweh itself is immune to gravity, which somehow defines time.

Based on...
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Questionmarktarius
11/04/17 2:01:37 AM
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ShinigamiSoul posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
ShinigamiSoul posted...
God cant be surprised, lol. An all powerful being could just rewind time and fix any mishaps anyway.

I don't believe that even Yahweh itself is immune to gravity, which somehow defines time.

Based on...

Some day, I will die. If my southern baptist upbringing means anything, I will face God Himself, at my final judgement.
My only question will be, "what is gravity, really?"
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yusiko
11/04/17 2:05:13 AM
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actually this is debated
because in Zechariah 5:9 2 angelic like females were around

they werent referred to as angels which is why its debated among religious scholars
but if you are looking for female angels in the bible thats your best bet of finding some
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ShinigamiSoul
11/04/17 2:27:04 AM
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yusiko posted...
actually this is debated
because in Zechariah 5:9 2 angelic like females were around

they werent referred to as angels which is why its debated among religious scholars
but if you are looking for female angels in the bible thats your best bet of finding some

After looking at some commentary from a few different sites, it seems the women are not actual angels, but they and the story theyre part of is to represent something related to Babylon.
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DevsBro
11/04/17 2:29:14 AM
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They have no gender, but prefer to use male pronouns

And they're often described as/confused for men.

does dat mean only men go to heaven? D:

Common misconception. Angels aren't people who have gone to heaven. They're separate beings entirely.
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Kelystic
11/04/17 2:44:39 AM
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"They have no gender, but prefer to use male pronouns"

why
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Questionmarktarius
11/04/17 2:53:14 AM
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Kelystic posted...
"They have no gender, but prefer to use male pronouns"

why

King James Version.

About twenty years ago, an unknown, indefinite, or ambiguous gender defaulted to "he".
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Dash_Harber
11/04/17 4:56:45 PM
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ShinigamiSoul posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
ShinigamiSoul posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
ShinigamiSoul posted...
Perhaps they are actually all male, if only so they couldn't procreate.

Oops!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim

With each other, I should say. Im aware of Nephilims, thats how i know they CAN procreate. Thus, they are all males to prevent somehting more serious than Giants.

Considering that according to Bible Cannon, females weren't created until after humanity, who were created after angels, meaning that sexual procreation wasn't created until much later than the angels.

And yet, angels have the power to procreate- if only with humans, but not each other- by sexual means or otherworldly.

They are also magic, so it's really not really like they can't alter reality if they want.
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Dyinglegacy
11/04/17 5:03:24 PM
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The Bible calls angels the "sons of God". This heavily insinuates that they are male. Also, the Bible speaks of angels lying with women.
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