Current Events > So the US of A is the only nation out of the Paris accords

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Way to go Trump

Dear Lord what a goober.
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the sad part is that Trumpy's supporters praise him for this and act like he's all super brave for defying all the other countries who have no idea what's really going on
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Good the United States shouldn't get a worse deal than China.
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The air is too clean, anyway
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Howl posted...

Good the United States shouldn't get a worse deal than China.

This. The Paris Accord was a shit deal that, overall, would have actually made the environment worse.

That's why the per-capita argument is wholly disingenuous for the global warming argument.
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were already slowly switching over to clean energy anyway. not sure that it makes much of a difference and all it would do is cost us a couple trillion dollars and few million jobs.
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Here's what James Hansen said in 2015, more than a year before Trump pull out of the agreement:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/dec/12/james-hansen-climate-change-paris-talks-fraud

Its a fraud really, a fake, he says, rubbing his head. Its just bullshit for them to say: Well have a 2C warming target and then try to do a little better every five years. Its just worthless words. There is no action, just promises. As long as fossil fuels appear to be the cheapest fuels out there, they will be continued to be burned.

And if you don't know who this man is, you should look him up.
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The Paris accord was a disadvantage for the US. Negotiation was on the table and Trump made that very clear.

The national economic research associates estimated the Paris accord would total a lose of 2.3 million jobs by 2025.

It also cut production on paper, cement, iron and steel, coal, natural gas costing 3 trillion dollars in lost GDP.

The US does well on green renewable technology. The Paris accord was just a bad deal for the US and didn't do shit about real problem countries like China and India which got breaks on the deal and foreign aid.

It was just an unfair deal but the fact you lepers hate Trump so much you can't actually look at the facts you just regurgitate your fake news.
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trump is a fucking idiot and isolating us from the rest of the world, are you really surprised?
his supporters want this shit hole.
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Of course the other countries signed up. They literally get free money for doing nothing.
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Anyone hating on Trump on this move literally have no idea what they are talking about and are just hopping on the hate wagon. They literally just are blind, misguided and ignorant on the topic.
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HypnoCoosh posted...

Anyone hating on Trump on this move literally have no idea what they are talking about and are just hopping on the hate wagon. They literally just are blind, misguided and ignorant on the topic.

I'll say the people who blindly love Trump like you are more blind, misguided, and ignorant.
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Trump can see a bad deal even when everyone else is fooled. MAGA MAGA MAGA.
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Tmaster148 posted...

HypnoCoosh posted...

Anyone hating on Trump on this move literally have no idea what they are talking about and are just hopping on the hate wagon. They literally just are blind, misguided and ignorant on the topic.

I'll say the people who blindly love Trump like you are more blind, misguided, and ignorant.

See post #8 let's discuss.
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Frankly every accord and other such nonsense that talks about making promises and the like toward reducing anything is just lip service and empty promises for good PR. Nobody follows through, so why even bother?

If you want change, then push for it yourself and help make it happen, not just whine and complain that somebody won't sign a meaningless document full of words to make you feel better.
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"It's a bad deal"

I mean, the other countries of the world got a worse deal because the US exists and has the largest contributions to global climate change, but that's none of my business.
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gunplagirl posted...

"It's a bad deal"

I mean, the other countries of the world got a worse deal because the US exists and has the largest contributions to global climate change, but that's none of my business.

India and China both produce more greenhouse gasses than America, and the Paris Accord allows them to produce more still.
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metralo posted...

trump is a fucking idiot and isolating us from the rest of the world, are you really surprised?
his supporters want this shit hole.

Isolating us how?
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gunplagirl posted...

"It's a bad deal"

I mean, the other countries of the world got a worse deal because the US exists and has the largest contributions to global climate change, but that's none of my business.

You should go back to school.
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That's the problem right there. China is the #1 country contributing to emissions and that line will keep going up. Meanwhile, the US is doing something about their emissions. It's declining.

So why should we treat China like a 3rd world country, give them money so they can keep polluting? Oh right, because the left is stupid.
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GreatEvilEmpire posted...

That's the problem right there. China is the #1 country contributing to emissions and that line will keep going up. Meanwhile, the US is doing something about their emissions. It's declining.

So why should we treat China like a 3rd world country, give them money so they can keep polluting? Oh right, because the left is stupid.

Meanwhile USA is number 2 with number 3 being the EU which is a combination of countries and at the same time much lower. Do you really not see a problem with that

Also lmao at "doing something". It was until Trump got in office. Every single thing the current administration has done is undermine and outright destroy environmental legislature. By the time Trump gets done with his 4 year term there will be a marked increase in it

GreatEvilEmpire posted...

That's the problem right there. China is the #1 country contributing to emissions and that line will keep going up. Meanwhile, the US is doing something about their emissions. It's declining.

So why should we treat China like a 3rd world country, give them money so they can keep polluting? Oh right, because the left is stupid.

Do you have one that has stats for 15-17?
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Axiom posted...

Meanwhile USA is number 2 with number 3 being the EU which is a combination of countries and at the same time much lower. Do you really not see a problem with that

Also lmao at "doing something". It was until Trump got in office. Every single thing the current administration has done is undermine and outright destroy environmental legislature. By the time Trump gets done with his 4 year term there will be a marked increase in it

You can talk in 4 years. As of right now, emissions in the US is in decline and it will continue to decline while China continue to increase.

The Paris Agreement is a shit deal. It lets China off the hook and let them continue to pollute. And a number of countries are trying to extort the US by saying shit like "If you don't give us money, we will continue to pollute". No good will come out of the deal when all the promises are empty.
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Izual_Reborn posted...

Do you have one that has stats for 15-17?

Can't find any. Here are the projections for the next decade or so. China is projected to emit more than 3x of that of the US.


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darkjedilink posted...

Howl posted...

Good the United States shouldn't get a worse deal than China.

This. The Paris Accord was a shit deal that, overall, would have actually made the environment worse.

That's why the per-capita argument is wholly disingenuous for the global warming argument.

Stupidest post today and the day isn't done yet
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