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COVxy 11/09/17 7:55:12 PM #1:	Making tuition waivers taxable could make the entire system collapse. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:890092309] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote>Making tuition waivers taxable could make the entire system collapse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sopfed 11/09/17 7:58:24 PM #2:	Along with eliminating the tax deduction for interest paid on loans. --- Q <cite>sopfed posted [p:890092479] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote>Along with eliminating the tax deduction for interest paid on loans.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/09/17 8:17:51 PM #3:	theres too many phd students already. maybe we need to thin the herd. colleges can then offer more money if they want more phd students. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890093590] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote>theres too many phd students already. maybe we need to thin the herd. colleges can then offer more money if they want more phd students.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
literal_garbage 11/09/17 8:37:19 PM #4:	I dont need see why we should care about nerds and making it easy for them --- - literal garbage <cite>literal_garbage posted [p:890094673] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote>I dont need see why we should care about nerds and making it easy for them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 11/09/17 8:41:37 PM #5:	In my area (math) 99.9% of PhD candidates get a tuition waiver. The cost of tuition could be set at anything and it wouldn't affect any amount of money that actually changes hands from students to university. Pretending like that is income is stupid. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:890094920] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote>In my area (math) 99.9% of PhD candidates get a tuition waiver. The cost of tuition could be set at anything and it wouldn't affect any amount of money that actually changes hands from students to university. Pretending like that is income is stupid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 11/09/17 8:50:54 PM #6:	Anteaterking posted... In my area (math) 99.9% of PhD candidates get a tuition waiver. The cost of tuition could be set at anything and it wouldn't affect any amount of money that actually changes hands from students to university. Pretending like that is income is stupid. Exactly, expecially when the actual take home stipends often border on state levels of poverty. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:890095481] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote>In my area (math) 99.9% of PhD candidates get a tuition waiver. The cost of tuition could be set at anything and it wouldn't affect any amount of money that actually changes hands from students to university. Pretending like that is income is stupid.</quote> Exactly, expecially when the actual take home stipends often border on state levels of poverty.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 11/09/17 9:06:27 PM #7:	Wait a minute, the Republican's tax plan would make people pay taxes on PhD tuition waivers? So if the tuition was say $40k a year but you weren't paying anything since you're a PhD student, you would be expected to pay taxes on $40k a year as if it was income? --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:890096417] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote>Wait a minute, the Republican's tax plan would make people pay taxes on PhD tuition waivers? So if the tuition was say $40k a year but you weren't paying anything since you're a PhD student, you would be expected to pay taxes on $40k a year as if it was income?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 11/09/17 9:06:52 PM #8:	Sativa_Rose posted... Wait a minute, the Republican's tax plan would make people pay taxes on PhD tuition waivers? So if the tuition was say $40k a year but you weren't paying anything since you're a PhD student, you would be expected to pay taxes on $40k a year as if it was income? Yup. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:890096439] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote>Wait a minute, the Republican's tax plan would make people pay taxes on PhD tuition waivers? So if the tuition was say $40k a year but you weren't paying anything since you're a PhD student, you would be expected to pay taxes on $40k a year as if it was income?</quote> Yup.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 11/09/17 9:08:09 PM #9:	Wow, what dumbasses. --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:890096524] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote>Wow, what dumbasses.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 11/09/17 9:10:28 PM #10:	FLUFFYGERM posted... theres too many phd students already. maybe we need to thin the herd. colleges can then offer more money if they want more phd students. The pace of science requires many PhD students if you want your lab to be productive and well funded. Fundamentally, funding for science needs to increase, as opposed to decrease. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:890096679] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>theres too many phd students already. maybe we need to thin the herd. colleges can then offer more money if they want more phd students.</quote> The pace of science requires many PhD students if you want your lab to be productive and well funded. Fundamentally, funding for science needs to increase, as opposed to decrease.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJ4Broly 11/09/17 9:40:50 PM #11:	COVxy posted... Making tuition waivers taxable could make the entire system collapse. Well, there needs to be serious reforms here. Too many students have $100k+ in debt as it is. Time for change. --- http://i.imgur.com/dFZ0tBx.jpg <cite>SSJ4Broly posted [p:890098534] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>Making tuition waivers taxable could make the entire system collapse.</quote> Well, there needs to be serious reforms here. Too many students have $100k+ in debt as it is. Time for change.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 11/09/17 9:46:06 PM #12:	SSJ4Broly posted... COVxy posted... Making tuition waivers taxable could make the entire system collapse. Well, there needs to be serious reforms here. Too many students have $100k+ in debt as it is. Time for change. That's kinda irrelevant here. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:890098827] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJ4Broly posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>Making tuition waivers taxable could make the entire system collapse.</quote> Well, there needs to be serious reforms here. Too many students have $100k+ in debt as it is. Time for change.</quote> That's kinda irrelevant here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drpooplol 11/09/17 9:51:37 PM #13:	COVxy posted... Sativa_Rose posted... Wait a minute, the Republican's tax plan would make people pay taxes on PhD tuition waivers? So if the tuition was say $40k a year but you weren't paying anything since you're a PhD student, you would be expected to pay taxes on $40k a year as if it was income? Yup. Well I mean, it is equivalent to income. But I do get why it isn't taxed. I guess I'm neutral on the whole thing. --- "Or do you want to know more about my vagina?" LIE "No" <cite>Drpooplol posted [p:890099145] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote>Wait a minute, the Republican's tax plan would make people pay taxes on PhD tuition waivers? So if the tuition was say $40k a year but you weren't paying anything since you're a PhD student, you would be expected to pay taxes on $40k a year as if it was income?</quote> Yup.</quote> Well I mean, it is equivalent to income. But I do get why it isn't taxed. I guess I'm neutral on the whole thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drpooplol 11/09/17 9:52:22 PM #14:	SSJ4Broly posted... COVxy posted... Making tuition waivers taxable could make the entire system collapse. Well, there needs to be serious reforms here. Too many students have $100k+ in debt as it is. Time for change. look, a poster on gamefaqs who doesn't know what they're talking about. What a special occasion! --- "Or do you want to know more about my vagina?" LIE "No" <cite>Drpooplol posted [p:890099191] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJ4Broly posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>Making tuition waivers taxable could make the entire system collapse.</quote> Well, there needs to be serious reforms here. Too many students have $100k+ in debt as it is. Time for change.</quote> look, a poster on gamefaqs who doesn't know what they're talking about. What a special occasion!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/09/17 10:04:34 PM #15:	COVxy posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... theres too many phd students already. maybe we need to thin the herd. colleges can then offer more money if they want more phd students. The pace of science requires many PhD students if you want your lab to be productive and well funded. Fundamentally, funding for science needs to increase, as opposed to decrease. There are too many PhD students. Way more than there are even tenure roles for them. Industry can't hire them all either. https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/04/bad-job-market-phds/479205/ Sorry to burst your bubble but less people need to be going into academia. Too many of yall in a crowded space, especially with competition from abroad. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890099891] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>theres too many phd students already. maybe we need to thin the herd. colleges can then offer more money if they want more phd students.</quote> The pace of science requires many PhD students if you want your lab to be productive and well funded. Fundamentally, funding for science needs to increase, as opposed to decrease.</quote> There are too many PhD students. Way more than there are even tenure roles for them. Industry can't hire them all either. https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/04/bad-job-market-phds/479205/ Sorry to burst your bubble but less people need to be going into academia. Too many of yall in a crowded space, especially with competition from abroad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 11/09/17 10:09:29 PM #16:	FLUFFYGERM posted... There are too many PhD students. Way more than there are even tenure roles for them. Yes, that's true, which is another reason why an increases in scientific funding are needed. More funding fixes a striking number of these issues. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:890100208] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>There are too many PhD students. Way more than there are even tenure roles for them. </quote> Yes, that's true, which is another reason why an increases in scientific funding are needed. More funding fixes a striking number of these issues.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/09/17 10:10:58 PM #17:	COVxy posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... There are too many PhD students. Way more than there are even tenure roles for them. Yes, that's true, which is another reason why an increases in scientific funding are needed. More funding fixes a striking number of these issues. More funding won't suddenly prompt universities to build more labs. And if there's anything universities don't need more of, it's funding. They've had a blank check from government and rich donors for a long time now and that's why costs have skyrocketed. Sorry that you want more first-year PhD grunts to do your dirty work, but your motivations are selfish. There's more PhDs than there is need for PhDs. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890100318] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>There are too many PhD students. Way more than there are even tenure roles for them. </quote> Yes, that's true, which is another reason why an increases in scientific funding are needed. More funding fixes a striking number of these issues.</quote> More funding won't suddenly prompt universities to build more labs. And if there's anything universities don't need more of, it's funding. They've had a blank check from government and rich donors for a long time now and that's why costs have skyrocketed. Sorry that you want more first-year PhD grunts to do your dirty work, but your motivations are selfish. There's more PhDs than there is need for PhDs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drpooplol 11/09/17 10:11:02 PM #18:	COVxy posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... There are too many PhD students. Way more than there are even tenure roles for them. Yes, that's true, which is another reason why an increases in scientific funding are needed. More funding fixes a striking number of these issues. Man, it's almost like this is the case for literally almost everything --- "Or do you want to know more about my vagina?" LIE "No" <cite>Drpooplol posted [p:890100324] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>There are too many PhD students. Way more than there are even tenure roles for them. </quote> Yes, that's true, which is another reason why an increases in scientific funding are needed. More funding fixes a striking number of these issues.</quote> Man, it's almost like this is the case for literally almost everything</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Drpooplol 11/09/17 10:12:01 PM #20:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Sorry that you want more first-year PhD grunts to do your dirty work, but your motivations are selfish. I honestly think proudclad is right here. --- "Or do you want to know more about my vagina?" LIE "No" <cite>Drpooplol posted [p:890100387] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Sorry that you want more first-year PhD grunts to do your dirty work, but your motivations are selfish.</quote> I honestly think proudclad is right here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 11/09/17 10:12:43 PM #21:	FLUFFYGERM posted... More funding won't suddenly prompt universities to build more labs. Uh, yeah, increases in funding lead to increases in open positions. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:890100435] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>More funding won't suddenly prompt universities to build more labs.</quote> Uh, yeah, increases in funding lead to increases in open positions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 11/09/17 10:13:33 PM #22:	"Just what america needs. Less education! Thats just what America needs to do in order to regain its recently lost first world status!" - CE --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:890100480] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote>"Just what america needs. Less education! Thats just what America needs to do in order to regain its recently lost first world status!" - CE</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mattnd2007 11/09/17 10:14:50 PM #23:	sopfed posted... Along with eliminating the tax deduction for interest paid on loans. Wait really? That's horrible. --- go join the "expletive not allowed" nazis then. you "expletive not allowed" psycho- Spudger 01/15/17 <cite>mattnd2007 posted [p:890100563] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>sopfed posted...</cite> <quote>Along with eliminating the tax deduction for interest paid on loans.</quote> Wait really? That's horrible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 11/09/17 10:15:52 PM #25:	Drpooplol posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Sorry that you want more first-year PhD grunts to do your dirty work, but your motivations are selfish. I honestly think proudclad is right here. Idk, seems to me that the vast majority of science is done by PhD students, and that increases in demands of productivity require more people doing science. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:890100626] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>Drpooplol posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Sorry that you want more first-year PhD grunts to do your dirty work, but your motivations are selfish.</quote> I honestly think proudclad is right here.</quote> Idk, seems to me that the vast majority of science is done by PhD students, and that increases in demands of productivity require more people doing science.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/09/17 10:17:35 PM #26:	Aeriis posted... Yeah, this is horrible and a lot of my friends who are Masters and PhD students are freaking out. Hopefully it won't happen? My best friend gets 25,000 waived from his tuition and only gets paid 4,000 a semester. There'd be no way he could afford to go to school if he got taxed like that. It's on the school administrators and tenured professors to part with a bit more of the school's income. They're making a tremendous amount of money. They could easily afford to give larger stipends to the candidates they want to retain. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890100722] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>Aeriis posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, this is horrible and a lot of my friends who are Masters and PhD students are freaking out. Hopefully it won't happen? My best friend gets 25,000 waived from his tuition and only gets paid 4,000 a semester. There'd be no way he could afford to go to school if he got taxed like that.</quote> It's on the school administrators and tenured professors to part with a bit more of the school's income. They're making a tremendous amount of money. They could easily afford to give larger stipends to the candidates they want to retain.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
courier_nv 11/09/17 10:17:46 PM #27:	COVxy posted... Drpooplol posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Sorry that you want more first-year PhD grunts to do your dirty work, but your motivations are selfish. I honestly think proudclad is right here. Idk, seems to me that the vast majority of science is done by PhD students, and that increases in demands of productivity require more people doing science. wait. remember that link I pm'd you? do you agree with that? <cite>courier_nv posted [p:890100740] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Drpooplol posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Sorry that you want more first-year PhD grunts to do your dirty work, but your motivations are selfish.</quote> I honestly think proudclad is right here.</quote> Idk, seems to me that the vast majority of science is done by PhD students, and that increases in demands of productivity require more people doing science.</quote> wait. remember that link I pm'd you? do you agree with that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 11/09/17 10:18:04 PM #28:	FLUFFYGERM posted... COVxy posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... theres too many phd students already. maybe we need to thin the herd. colleges can then offer more money if they want more phd students. The pace of science requires many PhD students if you want your lab to be productive and well funded. Fundamentally, funding for science needs to increase, as opposed to decrease. There are too many PhD students. Way more than there are even tenure roles for them. Industry can't hire them all either. https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/04/bad-job-market-phds/479205/ Sorry to burst your bubble but less people need to be going into academia. Too many of yall in a crowded space, especially with competition from abroad. Firstly, there are jobs that use PhDs that aren't academia. Also, a lack of jobs doesn't mean there are too many PhD students. Because as CovXY and I both said, most PhD students are paid for their work and get a tuition waiver. This isn't undergrad. PhD programs aren't just willing to take your money in exchange for classes. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:890100763] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>theres too many phd students already. maybe we need to thin the herd. colleges can then offer more money if they want more phd students.</quote> The pace of science requires many PhD students if you want your lab to be productive and well funded. Fundamentally, funding for science needs to increase, as opposed to decrease.</quote> There are too many PhD students. Way more than there are even tenure roles for them. Industry can't hire them all either. https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/04/bad-job-market-phds/479205/ Sorry to burst your bubble but less people need to be going into academia. Too many of yall in a crowded space, especially with competition from abroad.</quote> Firstly, there are jobs that use PhDs that aren't academia. Also, a lack of jobs doesn't mean there are too many PhD students. Because as CovXY and I both said, most PhD students are paid for their work and get a tuition waiver. This isn't undergrad. PhD programs aren't just willing to take your money in exchange for classes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 11/09/17 10:19:02 PM #29:	COVxy posted... Drpooplol posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Sorry that you want more first-year PhD grunts to do your dirty work, but your motivations are selfish. I honestly think proudclad is right here. Idk, seems to me that the vast majority of science is done by PhD students, and that increases in demands of productivity require more people doing science. You're talking about creating an illusion of demand by funneling more money into that economy. If there was a place for all that money, we'd expect to see many more tenure-track roles available. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:890100816] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Drpooplol posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Sorry that you want more first-year PhD grunts to do your dirty work, but your motivations are selfish.</quote> I honestly think proudclad is right here.</quote> Idk, seems to me that the vast majority of science is done by PhD students, and that increases in demands of productivity require more people doing science.</quote> You're talking about creating an illusion of demand by funneling more money into that economy. If there was a place for all that money, we'd expect to see many more tenure-track roles available.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drpooplol 11/09/17 10:19:45 PM #30:	Can people in this topic come up with a way to argue against this in a way that isn't "this affects someone I know negatively"? Tc kinda has, but I still doubt his intentions. --- "Or do you want to know more about my vagina?" LIE "No" <cite>Drpooplol posted [p:890100855] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote>Can people in this topic come up with a way to argue against this in a way that isn't "this affects someone I know negatively"? Tc kinda has, but I still doubt his intentions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 11/09/17 10:20:05 PM #32:	FLUFFYGERM posted... You're talking about creating an illusion of demand by funneling more money into that economy. If there was a place for all that money, we'd expect to see many more tenure-track roles available. ...uh, what? --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:890100878] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>You're talking about creating an illusion of demand by funneling more money into that economy. If there was a place for all that money, we'd expect to see many more tenure-track roles available.</quote> ...uh, what?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MutantJohn 11/09/17 10:25:40 PM #33:	We need PhDs to stay competitive with other nations in terms of industrial and military R&D --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling <cite>MutantJohn posted [p:890101180] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote>We need PhDs to stay competitive with other nations in terms of industrial and military R&D</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 11/09/17 10:27:12 PM #34:	FLUFFYGERM posted... More funding won't suddenly prompt universities to build more labs. Wait, so does trickle down work or not? --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:890101265] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>More funding won't suddenly prompt universities to build more labs.</quote> Wait, so does trickle down work or not?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 11/09/17 10:29:14 PM #35:	Drpooplol posted... Can people in this topic come up with a way to argue against this in a way that isn't "this affects someone I know negatively"? Tc kinda has, but I still doubt his intentions. I mean one of my arguments against it is that the listed ticket price of grad tuition doesn't actually match what anyone would ever be expected to pay for it. It's like if you were charged tax on the MSRP of an item rather than how much you actually bought it for. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:890101380] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>Drpooplol posted...</cite> <quote>Can people in this topic come up with a way to argue against this in a way that isn't "this affects someone I know negatively"? Tc kinda has, but I still doubt his intentions.</quote> I mean one of my arguments against it is that the listed ticket price of grad tuition doesn't actually match what anyone would ever be expected to pay for it. It's like if you were charged tax on the MSRP of an item rather than how much you actually bought it for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 11/09/17 10:29:28 PM #36:	ChromaticAngel posted... Wait, so does trickle down work or not? That's kinda a silly analogy, either way. Universities get a direct kickback from grants, but the grants themselves fund salaries, experiments, and equiptment. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:890101394] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote>Wait, so does trickle down work or not?</quote> That's kinda a silly analogy, either way. Universities get a direct kickback from grants, but the grants themselves fund salaries, experiments, and equiptment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MutantJohn 11/09/17 10:29:54 PM #37:	ChromaticAngel posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... More funding won't suddenly prompt universities to build more labs. Wait, so does trickle down work or not? Oh shit, burn!!! --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling <cite>MutantJohn posted [p:890101414] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote> More funding won't suddenly prompt universities to build more labs.</quote> Wait, so does trickle down work or not?</quote> Oh shit, burn!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drpooplol 11/09/17 10:30:44 PM #38:	COVxy posted... ChromaticAngel posted... Wait, so does trickle down work or not? That's kinda a silly analogy, either way. Universities get a direct kickback from grants, but the grants themselves fund salaries, experiments, and equiptment. how does this affect universities anyway; this is about the students. --- "Or do you want to know more about my vagina?" LIE "No" <cite>Drpooplol posted [p:890101467] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote>Wait, so does trickle down work or not?</quote> That's kinda a silly analogy, either way. Universities get a direct kickback from grants, but the grants themselves fund salaries, experiments, and equiptment.</quote> how does this affect universities anyway; this is about the students.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 11/09/17 10:31:31 PM #39:	Less education More people blindly following. More people blindly following Easier for the GOP to manipulate the poor. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:890101515] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote>Less education More people blindly following. More people blindly following Easier for the GOP to manipulate the poor.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 11/09/17 10:31:46 PM #40:	Aeriis posted... Yeah, this is horrible and a lot of my friends who are Masters and PhD students are freaking out. Hopefully it won't happen? My best friend gets 25,000 waived from his tuition and only gets paid 4,000 a semester. There'd be no way he could afford to go to school if he got taxed like that. Ph.D.s almost never vote republican So the political cost to the GOP is basically zero The only issue they're struggling with is the SALT deduction since GOP house members actually have voters who use that --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:890101528] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>Aeriis posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, this is horrible and a lot of my friends who are Masters and PhD students are freaking out. Hopefully it won't happen? My best friend gets 25,000 waived from his tuition and only gets paid 4,000 a semester. There'd be no way he could afford to go to school if he got taxed like that.</quote> Ph.D.s almost never vote republican So the political cost to the GOP is basically zero The only issue they're struggling with is the SALT deduction since GOP house members actually have voters who use that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 11/09/17 10:32:50 PM #41:	Drpooplol posted... how does this affect universities anyway; this is about the students. Students employed by the university. The conversation has extended further than that, though. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:890101595] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>Drpooplol posted...</cite> <quote>how does this affect universities anyway; this is about the students.</quote> Students employed by the university. The conversation has extended further than that, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drpooplol 11/09/17 10:34:08 PM #42:	COVxy posted... Drpooplol posted... how does this affect universities anyway; this is about the students. Students employed by the university. The conversation has extended further than that, though. Well back the conversation the fuck up. --- "Or do you want to know more about my vagina?" LIE "No" <cite>Drpooplol posted [p:890101672] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Drpooplol posted...</cite> <quote>how does this affect universities anyway; this is about the students.</quote> Students employed by the university. The conversation has extended further than that, though.</quote> Well back the conversation the fuck up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lderivedx 11/09/17 10:39:51 PM #43:	Couldn't schools just lower the tuition for grad students? --- i cant get off unless we're violating at least four OSHA regulations <cite>lderivedx posted [p:890102008] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote>Couldn't schools just lower the tuition for grad students?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 11/09/17 10:43:00 PM #44:	lderivedx posted... Couldn't schools just lower the tuition for grad students? That's a good question. My guess is that there's some logistical red tape here, otherwise why have tuition at all, given that it's waived for all students? --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:890102191] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>lderivedx posted...</cite> <quote>Couldn't schools just lower the tuition for grad students?</quote> That's a good question. My guess is that there's some logistical red tape here, otherwise why have tuition at all, given that it's waived for all students?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lderivedx 11/09/17 10:44:39 PM #45:	COVxy posted... That's a good question. My guess is that there's some logistical red tape here, otherwise why have tuition at all, given that it's waived for all students? Knowing precisely nothing about it, I wouldn't be surprised if it had to do with certain departments getting tuition assistance and others not getting any. They can say all have the same tuition and be technically correct. e: my taxes would go up around $600, not including any tax breaks that get changed. --- i cant get off unless we're violating at least four OSHA regulations <cite>lderivedx posted [p:890102288] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>That's a good question. My guess is that there's some logistical red tape here, otherwise why have tuition at all, given that it's waived for all students? </quote> Knowing precisely nothing about it, I wouldn't be surprised if it had to do with certain departments getting tuition assistance and others not getting any. They can say all have the same tuition and be technically correct. e: my taxes would go up around $600, not including any tax breaks that get changed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drpooplol 11/09/17 10:48:47 PM #46:	"waiver" isn't really the correct term here. The tuition is still being paid, it's just coming out of grant funding for professors. --- "Or do you want to know more about my vagina?" LIE "No" <cite>Drpooplol posted [p:890102510] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote>"waiver" isn't really the correct term here. The tuition is still being paid, it's just coming out of grant funding for professors.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 11/09/17 10:49:57 PM #47:	Drpooplol posted... "waiver" isn't really the correct term here. The tuition is still being paid, it's just coming out of grant funding for professors. No it's not. It's literally a waiver. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:890102585] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>Drpooplol posted...</cite> <quote>"waiver" isn't really the correct term here. The tuition is still being paid, it's just coming out of grant funding for professors.</quote> No it's not. It's literally a waiver.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drpooplol 11/09/17 10:53:23 PM #48:	COVxy posted... Drpooplol posted... "waiver" isn't really the correct term here. The tuition is still being paid, it's just coming out of grant funding for professors. No it's not. It's literally a waiver. Am I incorrect in saying the money for tuition comes from grant funding? I know it's called a waiver, but I'm saying it's not used in the way one would think for the typical usage of the word. --- "Or do you want to know more about my vagina?" LIE "No" <cite>Drpooplol posted [p:890102774] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Drpooplol posted...</cite> <quote>"waiver" isn't really the correct term here. The tuition is still being paid, it's just coming out of grant funding for professors.</quote> No it's not. It's literally a waiver.</quote> Am I incorrect in saying the money for tuition comes from grant funding? I know it's called a waiver, but I'm saying it's not used in the way one would think for the typical usage of the word.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 11/09/17 10:54:24 PM #49:	Drpooplol posted... Am I incorrect in saying the money for tuition comes from grant funding? I know it's called a waiver, but I'm saying it's not used in the way one would think for the typical usage of the word. You are incorrect. The tuition does not come out of grant funding. The university simply doesn't charge students. On my bill the tuition gets charged and then counterbalanced by the waiver. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:890102826] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote><cite>Drpooplol posted...</cite> <quote>Am I incorrect in saying the money for tuition comes from grant funding? I know it's called a waiver, but I'm saying it's not used in the way one would think for the typical usage of the word. </quote> You are incorrect. The tuition does not come out of grant funding. The university simply doesn't charge students. On my bill the tuition gets charged and then counterbalanced by the waiver.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drpooplol 11/09/17 10:56:53 PM #50:	Hmmm I've been told that it does come out of grant funding by university administrators. That must not be the universal system? --- "Or do you want to know more about my vagina?" LIE "No" <cite>Drpooplol posted [p:890102946] in Have we ta... [t:75974306]...</cite> <quote>Hmmm I've been told that it does come out of grant funding by university administrators. That must not be the universal system?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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