Board 8 > College Football Discussion - Week 11

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12 minutes into the game and Notre Dame is lucky they aren't down 21-0 or 28-0 already. They look worthlessly incompetent on both sides of the ball and Miami has already dropped two pick sixes.

Are we going to get another clunker?
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It solves some ranking problems!

Alabama losing would create some, though.
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Its always a bit of a toss up when OU plays the best Big 12 defense. Sometimes we get exposed a little, sometimes we expose them.

This appears to be the latter
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I can never really root for Miss State at home. The cowbells are basically cheating.
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Alabama was the one team I had confidence in to win comfortably going into these ranked matches today.

Oops.

But yeah, 10 obliterates 1, 5 obliterates 6, and 7 obliterates 3.

One of the most disappointing weeks in recent memory. Alabama/Miss St. Is ultimately useless unless Alabama loses this game and another one, but at least its watchable.
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this day could not be going any better for Wisconsin

and Clemson will become #1 just for not losing
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LOL ND

thanks for playing

can't wait to see the Brian Kelly post-game ragefest press conference
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Oklahoma's going to be #1, actually

how many teams have to lose before UCF enters the top ten
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After dropping 3 pick sixes, Miami apparently didn't drop that one. I wasn't watching anymore.

Now I always shade to the side of Notre Dame being frauds, but wow I didn't think they'd be this fraudulent.

Miami turned from an insanely luck team to a good one in a flash these last two weeks.

The committee has to be so happy with the way this week went. Everything is neat and tidy. No worries about Wisconsin, no worries about the SEC.

Oklahoma, Wisconsin, winner of Clemson/Miami, winner of SEC.

Barring some really bad losses, its really easy for them now.
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Also don't underestimate the possibility of Miami jumping up to #1

it's a legit possibility

yeah but I don't want it to be easy for them

I want this season to be as chaotic as the end of 2001 where everyone lost so much that somehow Nebraska snuck into the title game after losing by 30 to Colorado

that was a fun end of the season, even if the Vols were victimized in the process
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I don't think they'll leap over Clemson yet. If they hadn't picked it up at the end, then quite possibly.
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btw Baker has the Heisman on lockdown*

*you know of course unless we lose to Kansas
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Dr_Football posted...

btw Baker has the Heisman on lockdown*

*you know of course unless we lose to Kansas

In which case everyone should be fired and banned from football
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oh darn the game is at Kansas

I wanted to post the friendly reminder that Kansas hasn't won a road game this decade

well I guess I did anyway
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Bama missing field goals, the hallmark sign of a Bama upset
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Meow1000 posted...

After dropping 3 pick sixes, Miami apparently didn't drop that one. I wasn't watching anymore.

Now I always shade to the side of Notre Dame being frauds, but wow I didn't think they'd be this fraudulent.

Miami turned from an insanely luck team to a good one in a flash these last two weeks.

The committee has to be so happy with the way this week went. Everything is neat and tidy. No worries about Wisconsin, no worries about the SEC.

Oklahoma, Wisconsin, winner of Clemson/Miami, winner of SEC.

Barring some really bad losses, its really easy for them now.

If Wisconsin loses and Georgia wins the SEC I can see Bama still making it....

But that's no fun.

So let's say Wisonsin loses, and Bama wins. (Undefeated)

Who the hell is #4?

1 loss Miami?
2 loss Ohio State?
2 loss Washington?

Okay, well, this is different.

Based on the conditionals I came up with before, Alabama and Notre Dame both losing should result in Clemson being #1. But I can't imagine Clemson at #1. Honestly, if Alabama loses, it really should be Miami at #1, because they'd clearly be the top remaining undefeated team and the idea of a 1-loss #1 when there are still multiple unbeaten Power Five schools seems weird.

But yeah, we might be switching from "if Alabama and Georgia are both unbeaten entering the SEC Championship Game, do they both make it in?" to "If 1-loss Clemson beats previously unbeaten Miami in the ACC Championship Game, are they both in?"

The answer being "if Auburn wins the SEC, then probably." ...Actually, it might not even take that. Though this speculation's premature because Bama has a chance to win this in regulation.
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3rd and Granthem baby....

3rd and fucking Granthem

Miss State's defense tried really hard to give the game away, and eventually did.
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Nice blitz when Bama was probably playing for OT
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Dr_Football posted...

Bama missing field goals, the hallmark sign of a Bama upset

Nope.
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TheRock1525 posted...

Dr_Football posted...

Bama missing field goals, the hallmark sign of a Bama upset

Nope.

3rd and Granthem

"lol" kick out of bounds
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You know with the touchback being the 25 and the out of bounds being the 35 its not the dumbest thing in the world if youre afraid of a return
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SSJBKK20Vegito posted...

Meow1000 posted...

After dropping 3 pick sixes, Miami apparently didn't drop that one. I wasn't watching anymore.

Now I always shade to the side of Notre Dame being frauds, but wow I didn't think they'd be this fraudulent.

Miami turned from an insanely luck team to a good one in a flash these last two weeks.

The committee has to be so happy with the way this week went. Everything is neat and tidy. No worries about Wisconsin, no worries about the SEC.

Oklahoma, Wisconsin, winner of Clemson/Miami, winner of SEC.

Barring some really bad losses, its really easy for them now.

If Wisconsin loses and Georgia wins the SEC I can see Bama still making it....

But that's no fun.

So let's say Wisconsin loses, and Bama wins. (Undefeated)

Who the hell is #4?

1 loss Miami?
2 loss Ohio State?
2 loss Washington?

I'd say, yeah, 1-loss Miami. If Wisconsin loses the B1G Championship Game, Clemson beats previously unbeaten Miami for the ACC, Oklahoma remains at 1 loss and wins the Big 12, and Alabama is still unbeaten, I give it to Miami.

If Miami is the unbeaten winner of the ACC? Uh...Might be Ohio State. Might be Washington.

Also, remember that there are two ways that Bama could wind up at one loss. What if Auburn wins the SEC? Could we have both Auburn and Alabama in the playoff? Damnit, now I need a "full list of scenarios".
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DPI on a hail Mary

What
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Untimed down! ...MSU's going to get the TD, go for two and the win, and lose by one. Calling it now.
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Okay, so much for my prognosticating skills.
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Or he throws the ball way out of bounds

How anticlimactic.

34-0 Miami zzzz
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My dad called the over throw on the second attempt super hard.
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Well nevermind, Alabama's obviously #1

Oklahoma's #2, Clemson #3, Miami #4, Georgia #5, Wisconsin #6 I think.

I hope Auburn jumps ahead of Wisconsin.
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Meow1000 posted...

DPI on a hail Mary

What

When he takes a player to the ground and then half the other players trip over them, you really gotta call something on that.
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TsunamiXXVIII posted...

SSJBKK20Vegito posted...

Meow1000 posted...

After dropping 3 pick sixes, Miami apparently didn't drop that one. I wasn't watching anymore.

Now I always shade to the side of Notre Dame being frauds, but wow I didn't think they'd be this fraudulent.

Miami turned from an insanely luck team to a good one in a flash these last two weeks.

The committee has to be so happy with the way this week went. Everything is neat and tidy. No worries about Wisconsin, no worries about the SEC.

Oklahoma, Wisconsin, winner of Clemson/Miami, winner of SEC.

Barring some really bad losses, its really easy for them now.

If Wisconsin loses and Georgia wins the SEC I can see Bama still making it....

But that's no fun.

So let's say Wisconsin loses, and Bama wins. (Undefeated)

Who the hell is #4?

1 loss Miami?
2 loss Ohio State?
2 loss Washington?

I'd say, yeah, 1-loss Miami. If Wisconsin loses the B1G Championship Game, Clemson beats previously unbeaten Miami for the ACC, Oklahoma remains at 1 loss and wins the Big 12, and Alabama is still unbeaten, I give it to Miami.

If Miami is the unbeaten winner of the ACC? Uh...Might be Ohio State. Might be Washington.

Also, remember that there are two ways that Bama could wind up at one loss. What if Auburn wins the SEC? Could we have both Auburn and Alabama in the playoff? Damnit, now I need a "full list of scenarios".

If Wisconsin somehow loses next week or the week after before Auburn and Bama,
Maybe Bama should just let Auburn win... they're automatically make it in. They'd ironically get punished more for losing in the Championship than having one loss and losing the division.

Paratroopa1 posted...

Well nevermind, Alabama's obviously #1

Oklahoma's #2, Clemson #3, Miami #4, Georgia #5, Wisconsin #6 I think.

Not a chance Georgia is that high. Miami is seeing to that.
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Notre Dame can't drop any lower than #11

Paratroopa1 posted...

Well nevermind, Alabama's obviously #1

Oklahoma's #2, Clemson #3, Miami #4, Georgia #5, Wisconsin #6 I think.

If that is what it Georgia still guaranteed top 4 if they win their remaining games in the state of Georgia.

And don't forget that Georgia is still only a 1-loss team - it would be VERY surprising for them to drop any lower than 7 (that would mean Auburn passing them - which is not a guarantee as a 2-loss team)

Paratroopa1 posted...

And don't forget that Georgia is still only a 1-loss team - it would be VERY surprising for them to drop any lower than 7 (that would mean Auburn passing them - which is not a guarantee as a 2-loss team)

Honestly... it doesn't matter that much for Georgia. They still completely control their own Destiny no matter where they fall.

Win their remaining 3 games they still make the playoffs 100% of the time.

Paratroopa1 posted...

And don't forget that Georgia is still only a 1-loss team - it would be VERY surprising for them to drop any lower than 7 (that would mean Auburn passing them - which is not a guarantee as a 2-loss team)

Given that one of those losses is Clemson, I actually do expect they will pass them. They certainly will in the irrelevant polls.
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Yeah but their other loss is LSU. That's the worst loss of any of those teams, so that's going to hold them back in addition to being a 2-loss team (although arguably Oklahoma dropping one to Iowa State is worse).

I would be very, very surprised if Auburn's ranking is not exactly 7.

Either way, I'll be shocked if Wisconsin isn't above them. Georgia lost both their own game and the validity of their biggest win.

If Miami barely won this, then yeah I'd guess 5 too.
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Predix:

1 Alabama
2 Oklahoma
3 Miami
4 Clemson
5 Wisconsin
6 Georgia
7 Auburn
8 Notre Dame
9 Ohio State
10 USC
11 TCU
12 Oklahoma State
13 Penn State
14 UCF
15 Washington
16 Washington State (lol)
17 Mississippi State
18 Memphis
19 NC State
20 LSU
21 Stanford
22 Michigan State
23 Northwestern
24 Michigan
25 West Virginia

Look out for: Virginia Tech, South Carolina, Arizona, South Florida
Teams I forgot to account for: probably someone

kevwaffles posted...

Either way, I'll be shocked if Wisconsin isn't above them. Georgia lost both their own game and the validity of their biggest win.

If Miami barely won this, then yeah I'd guess 5 too.

If Auburn is ahead of Wisconsin on Tuesday (they shouldn't be) after smacking Iowa.... that's it. Wisconsin will not make the playoff. Because it means that the committee has literally 0 respect for them whatsoever.

SSJBKK20Vegito posted...

kevwaffles posted...

Either way, I'll be shocked if Wisconsin isn't above them. Georgia lost both their own game and the validity of their biggest win.

If Miami barely won this, then yeah I'd guess 5 too.

If Auburn is ahead of Wisconsin on Tuesday (they shouldn't be) after smacking Iowa.... that's it. Wisconsin will not make the playoff. Because it means that the committee has literally 0 respect for them whatsoever.

There's no justification for it after tonight. They kept Iowa to 66 yards.

Edit: Wait, I think I confused myself and had Wisconsin higher when I said what you replied to. So...nevermind?
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kevwaffles posted...

SSJBKK20Vegito posted...

kevwaffles posted...

Either way, I'll be shocked if Wisconsin isn't above them. Georgia lost both their own game and the validity of their biggest win.

If Miami barely won this, then yeah I'd guess 5 too.

If Auburn is ahead of Wisconsin on Tuesday (they shouldn't be) after smacking Iowa.... that's it. Wisconsin will not make the playoff. Because it means that the committee has literally 0 respect for them whatsoever.

There's no justification for it after tonight. They kept Iowa to 66 yards.

I agree with you... that's why I'm saying if after all that they are behind TWO loss Auburn... time to pack it in. You can beat OSU by 80 they aren't gonna let you in...

Yeah, we're on the same page, I just got confused for a sec.
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So, scenarios:

Win out and you're in: Alabama, Georgia, Miami, Clemson, Oklahoma, Wisconsin, probably Auburn but they might get passed up for a 1-loss Alabama or maybe even a 1-loss Miami.

Will definitely be in if they win out and Alabama and Miami are both undefeated, but might have trouble if one or both is a one-loss non-champion: TCU, Ohio State.

Not in control of their own destiny, but doesn't need any major upsets to get in if they win out: USC (gets in by winning out if Ohio State loses to Michigan but still wins the Big Ten), maybe Washington State (might need a 3-loss Ohio State to beat a one-loss Wisconsin, with Michigan again being the most likely spoiler.

Probably could get in if they win their conference and things go right, but there's no clear path to doing so: Oklahoma State (sadly, West Virginia upsetting Oklahoma to set up a four-way tie at 7-2 would result in Oklahoma and TCU still getting into the conference title game), Washington (needs Cal to upset Stanford to be able to win the Pac-12 North).

Needs to win out and something stupid to happen (e.g., Georgia not only loses to Alabama but also to Georgia Tech and Clemson not only loses to Miami but also to South Carolina and not only does West Virginia win out, but TCU loses to Texas Tech and Iowa State also wins out [in which case, "winning out" for WVU would involve winning a rematch with Oklahoma State, because if it's a three-way tie for first between OU, OKST, and WVU, each of which would be 1-1 against the other two, the next tiebreaker is record against the next team in the standings, which would be Iowa State): Notre Dame, Stanford, maybe WVU but probably not.

There might theoretically be a scenario that gets them in, but there just isn't a plausible one: Penn State (needs Ohio State to lose to both Illinois and Michigan to get to the CCG, plus Michigan State to lose another game), Michigan State (more likely to get to CCG, but less likely to get into playoff if they win it), Michigan (even less likely to make CCG, as they need both MSU and PSU to lose another one), Central Florida (there just aren't enough games remaining for Alabama to get below them even without an SEC title and I'm pretty sure at least three other conferences will have someone)

No hope of making the top four, but could still get into a New Year's Six game (Power Five edition): LSU (might need nothing more than Alabama losing to Georgia and still getting into the playoff, since they're technically the second-place team in the SEC West if Alabama wins the Iron Bowl and therefore "should" get the SEC's autobid--but even though Auburn probably will, it's still a decent shot) North Carolina State (needs either Miami or Clemson--more likely Miami because Clemson has an FCS cupcake--to lose all remaining games so that they can become the second-highest-ranked ACC team, giving them the champion's autobid since the actual champion is in the playoff), Iowa State (most likely needs WVU to go 0-2 and TTU to go 2-0, plus KSU to beat OKST--but, yes, they are still mathematically alive to face OU in the CCG), Texas (Amazingly enough, if Texas goes 2-0 and neither TCU nor Oklahoma State wins another game this season, the Big 12 Championship Game will actually be a Red River Shootout rematch, giving the Horns a shot at an autobid. Of course, this involves both Kansas and Baylor beating ranked teams on the road, so yeah, this is just a technicality)
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