Poll of the Day > Deadpool game is getting removed from digital stores in a few days

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DeltaBladeX
11/11/17 2:14:21 PM
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Have until the 16th to grab it unless you want a physical console copy.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/224060/Deadpool/
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FatalAccident
11/11/17 2:17:33 PM
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how come? poor sales or something?
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Lokarin
11/11/17 2:18:51 PM
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DeltaBladeX
11/11/17 2:19:38 PM
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FatalAccident posted...
how come? poor sales or something?

It was removed previously because license. They were allowed to bring it back for a while and make updated versions for current consoles for the Deadpool movie, but they could only have it for a while longer, since Capcom have the Marvel stuff again.
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Mead
11/11/17 2:21:21 PM
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This stuff is so dumb
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dragon504
11/11/17 2:21:26 PM
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DeltaBladeX
11/11/17 2:22:23 PM
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dragon504 posted...
Again?

Yes, again
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LeetCheet
11/11/17 5:51:02 PM
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Fun game. Highmoon Studios is such an underrated developer.
They also made Transformers Fall of Cybertron(another underrated game) and its one of my favourite shooters.
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Cruddy_horse
11/11/17 7:17:36 PM
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I always hate when licensed games get removed like this.
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ReggieTheReckless
11/11/17 7:23:31 PM
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My ps3 has the Scott pilgrim game on it, is that still unavailable to get by any means since it was removed?
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Zeus
11/11/17 7:41:43 PM
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ReggieTheReckless posted...
My ps3 has the Scott pilgrim game on it, is that still unavailable to get by any means since it was removed?


afaik. Situations like that are really annoying.
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DeltaBladeX
11/11/17 7:52:56 PM
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ReggieTheReckless posted...
My ps3 has the Scott pilgrim game on it, is that still unavailable to get by any means since it was removed?

Can't buy. Shame, I want the DLC.

I also want some PS3 versions of old arcade games, X-Men, Simpsons and Ninja Turtles. :(
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ArvTheGreat
11/11/17 8:42:46 PM
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This is why physical copies
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DeltaBladeX
11/11/17 8:55:04 PM
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ArvTheGreat posted...
This is why physical copies

Which are limited in number and not always possible to find. And those get discontinued too, just that used copies can still appear in the wild later.
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dragon504
11/11/17 9:11:23 PM
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ArvTheGreat posted...
This is why physical copies


It's not like you can't play/download/redownload your digital copy. You're just unable to buy it digitally.
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darkknight109
11/11/17 9:12:51 PM
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And people always act surprised when I say that I don't buy digital copies of stuff.
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ArvTheGreat
11/11/17 9:14:16 PM
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People who haven't bought it can't redownload it and limited copies? Are you for serial using the worst case scenario in this day and age physical copies>digital you home wrecker
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DeltaBladeX
11/11/17 9:38:06 PM
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ArvTheGreat posted...
People who haven't bought it can't redownload it and limited copies? Are you for serial using the worst case scenario in this day and age physical copies>digital you home wrecker

I've spent years trying to find physical copies of some games. Digital is much easier to find.

I also lost a great number of my games to a break in. Guess how many of my digital games could be recovered from that compared to physical copies.

I never said physical was a bad thing, both have advantages. Digital is easier to find, but it will get removed when the license runs out in cases like movie and comic based games. That isn't even unique to digital, unsold physical copies can be removed from stores and destroyed if any remain. You can just find the used copies of those later.

I imagine if your local GameStop has any unsold copies of the PS4 / XBO release, they will disappear as well. Activision can't sell them any more, so they have to be removed from stores. Digital is just easier to notice because the item for sale doesn't have limited numbers.

darkknight109 posted...
And people always act surprised when I say that I don't buy digital copies of stuff.

The way you are acting is as if they won't let you play it any more. Owners keep the game. Just no longer for sale.
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Veedrock-
11/11/17 9:48:37 PM
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To the surprise of absolutely nobody this has dissolved into physical vs digital. In a topic where TC linked the PC version no less.

DeltaBladeX posted...
Capcom have the Marvel stuff again.

They don't have an exclusive license. Square is doing an Avengers game, Sony has a Spider-man game coming, there's an MMO and several mobile games. This is just a case of Activision not wanting to renew their own license.
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ArvTheGreat
11/11/17 9:51:18 PM
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Yea if you are trying to find a rare old game with 2 copies which are most likely digital but you can find games pretty easily
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ArvTheGreat
11/11/17 9:52:21 PM
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Don't assume every game is hard to find to win your argument
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DeltaBladeX
11/11/17 9:57:13 PM
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Veedrock- posted...
DeltaBladeX posted...
Capcom have the Marvel stuff again.

They don't have an exclusive license. Square is doing an Avengers game, Sony has a Spider-man game coming, there's an MMO and several mobile games. This is just a case of Activision not wanting to renew their own license.

Hadn't even heard of the Avengers game, while I didn't know who was doing Spider-Man.

As a geezer, I'm used to the exclusive licenses being done so a publisher could lock out other companies. Didn't realise this one wasn't.

At any rate, they already extended it before. I got it myself back on the 28th of December, 2013 right before it got removed at the end of the year. They brought it back to release new versions of the game for PS4 / XBO to make money off the movie. Sadly the price of the game went up with the second release. I paid US$7.49 last time, with a base price of US$29.99.
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darkknight109
11/11/17 10:02:45 PM
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DeltaBladeX posted...
Digital is much easier to find.

Good luck finding Deadpool for the PC in a few days.

DeltaBladeX posted...
The way you are acting is as if they won't let you play it any more. Owners keep the game. Just no longer for sale.

No, I'm acting like it can't be bought anymore. Which is fucking stupid.

I can read a book from 5000 years ago, watch a movie from 80 years ago, and play an Atari game from 35 years ago, but a video game that isn't even five fucking years old is about to be impossible to acquire for the PC, unless you already bought it.

Fuck that shit.
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DeltaBladeX
11/11/17 10:05:30 PM
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ArvTheGreat posted...
Yea if you are trying to find a rare old game with 2 copies which are most likely digital but you can find games pretty easily

'Common' games included. PS3 stuff isn't so old that games would be rare. This very game was one I couldn't find, actually. I've seen one copy, several years ago, before I got my PS3. Call of Duty: Black Ops games are also something I've had trouble finding (wanted to grab one for my brother, he wants to shoot zombies). Found Modern Warfare titles, but not any BO. Shouldn't be rare, but physical games down here are a pain in the arse to find the ones I want.
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DeltaBladeX
11/11/17 10:14:09 PM
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darkknight109 posted...
And ignore what I said about PHYSICAL games doing the same thing. After all, that wouldn't support your argument. The company can't sell the game past a certain date, no matter the storage medium. Unsold discs go get destroyed. People just don't notice that since they made X copies and they are typical sold and gone before the end date comes around.

They were at least kind enough to allow people to know before the game has to be removed from all stores. More than a few games I wanted left that to be an unpleasant surprise and don't always have physical releases either (examples being low priced straight arcade ports or indie games, not worth the cost to make physical copies unless they wanted to double the price).

I'm also have one other thing I love about digital games, but this is region specific. I can buy games banned in New Zealand through a US PSN account. Physical copies would be destroyed if found entering the country. >:D
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darkknight109
11/11/17 10:31:03 PM
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DeltaBladeX posted...
And ignore what I said about PHYSICAL games doing the same thing. After all, that wouldn't support your argument.

I have over 1000 games in my collection; I've yet to run into one that is literally impossible to find beyond the ones that have <100 copies made.

Hell, one of my games is one of three in the world and I still managed to get a hold of it. You might have to pay for the privilege, but they're still available.

DeltaBladeX posted...
The company can't sell the game past a certain date, no matter the storage medium. Unsold discs go get destroyed. People just don't notice that since they made X copies and they are typical sold and gone before the end date comes around.

Physical has a thriving second-hand market; digital does not. That's why you can still get 30 year old Nintendo games even though they're not sold (new) in stores anymore.
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DeltaBladeX
11/11/17 11:02:52 PM
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I mentioned used games still being around. Still effects the unsold. This is a case of the company not being allowed to sell the games, used goods never come under that, though you have the worry of used games (I've bought hundreds over the years, quality can vary from pristine to playing naughts and crosses on the disc with a nail, I was surprised that one even started but it certainly couldn't be finished). This removal issue has nothing to do with digital vs physical, but license bull****.

And I'm not sure how many games I currently have. Thousands, certainly, since my Steam library is close to 5000 by itself. My physical library dropped quite a bit a few years ago (yay break in, my biggest worry when most of my collection was physical) which is when I started buying more digital titles. Still have hundreds for PS2 since it was mostly untouched (only a few games were taken from that lot like Final Fantasy stuff), but most of my systems I got later that have over 100 games are mostly digital libraries. PS3 and 3DS are my next biggest physical collections, with 99 for the PS3 (around 400 digital) and 52 for the 3DS (223 digital).
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wwinterj25
11/12/17 12:19:06 AM
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This is why I don't do digital.

dragon504 posted...
It's not like you can't play/download/redownload your digital copy. You're just unable to buy it digitally.


... but if it's not on the servers how can you redownload it?
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Veedrock-
11/12/17 1:24:10 AM
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darkknight109 posted...
I can read a book from 5000 years ago, watch a movie from 80 years ago, and play an Atari game from 35 years ago, but a video game that isn't even five f***ing years old is about to be impossible to acquire for the PC, unless you already bought it.

What? ...what?

You guys are ridiculous with fudging arguments.
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unknown_VS
11/12/17 3:36:51 AM
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@Veedrock- posted...
darkknight109 posted...
I can read a book from 5000 years ago, watch a movie from 80 years ago, and play an Atari game from 35 years ago, but a video game that isn't even five f***ing years old is about to be impossible to acquire for the PC, unless you already bought it.

What? ...what?

You guys are ridiculous with fudging arguments.

I'd really like to know what's so ridiculous about what he said?
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DeltaBladeX
11/12/17 3:41:34 AM
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wwinterj25 posted...
... but if it's not on the servers how can you redownload it?

It is on the servers, only removed from the store. They can't sell it, but files remain.
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Veedrock-
11/12/17 5:48:59 PM
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@unknown_VS posted...
Veedrock- posted...
@darkknight109 posted...
I can read a book from 5000 years ago, watch a movie from 80 years ago, and play an Atari game from 35 years ago, but a video game that isn't even five f***ing years old is about to be impossible to acquire for the PC, unless you already bought it.

What? ...what? You guys are ridiculous with fudging arguments.

I'd really like to know what's so ridiculous about what he said?

First, his comparison automatically assumes availability to suit his argument (alliteration++). Yeah there are 5000 year old books he can read, but there's also 5000 year old books he can't read because they're lost to time. But that totally defeats his argument so it's exempted.

Second, his terminology is screwed: everything else in his analogy only mentions consumption (I can watch/read/play X), while for Deadpool he specifically mentions acquiring it. That's different goalposts.

And while I'm the last person to advocate illegal activity, to say it's "impossible to acquire" is false. An undeniable benefit to digital is it'll never truly be gone, even if it's not for sale. This kind of stuff is how some people justify using ROMs for certain titles or systems of old.
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Dikitain
11/12/17 6:18:08 PM
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DeltaBladeX posted...
wwinterj25 posted...
... but if it's not on the servers how can you redownload it?

It is on the servers, only removed from the store. They can't sell it, but files remain.

Right, people forget that when a company has to stop selling something, it is very rarely because they don't have it anymore. More then likely it is because they aren't allowed to. So if you buy the game and don't download it for say...5 years, even though Steam doesn't sell it anymore it is still tied to your account and you can download it. Same thing happened with GoG a few years back when they couldn't sell Bethesda games anymore. You could still access them if they were tied to your account, but you couldn't get them through the store.
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darkknight109
11/12/17 6:25:50 PM
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Veedrock- posted...
First, his comparison automatically assumes availability to suit his argument (alliteration++). Yeah there are 5000 year old books he can read, but there's also 5000 year old books he can't read because they're lost to time. But that totally defeats his argument so it's exempted.

You know, claiming that an argument is "totally defeated" by something you said is arrogance, especially when it plainly isn't.

Yes, there's 5000 year old books I can't read. Yes, some of them have been lost. Here's the thing, though - that happens to everything. Some of the stuff you save digitally is going to be lost forever as well. Some of it already has. Acting like that's a point in favour of digital is asinine.

Here's the difference - for the most part, the ancient works that have been lost were lost because of the absence or failure of whatever archival system they were kept under; in this case, the creator is deliberately destroying their own work (or, at least, our ability to access it). Not because they're unhappy with it, not because they think it should be destroyed, but because the Powers That Be say it must be destroyed, and so it is. And because of the specifics of the system we've set up, legitimate archiving is now impossible. The number of Deadpool games (and Scott Pilgrim games, and OutRun Online Arcade games, and...) is now finite; if you haven't played it now, you probably never will, because the copies that do exist cannot change hands (again, sharply contrasting with physical games). And when the servers that support those games are taken offline, a not insubstantial chunk of gaming history will simply disappear.

Veedrock- posted...
Second, his terminology is screwed: everything else in his analogy only mentions consumption (I can watch/read/play X), while for Deadpool he specifically mentions acquiring it. That's different goalposts.

It's not, but if it makes you feel better, feel free to substitute "buy" a book/movie/game from decades/centuries ago, or "play" Deadpool. It changes nothing about my post or overall point.

Veedrock- posted...
And while I'm the last person to advocate illegal activity, to say it's "impossible to acquire" is false. An undeniable benefit to digital is it'll never truly be gone, even if it's not for sale. This kind of stuff is how some people justify using ROMs for certain titles or systems of old.

Any system that requires outright illegal activity to cover its shortcomings is a shitty system. You can dance around the piracy issue if you like, but piracy is no substitute for commerce. I do not think it's a big ask for me to be able to go back and look through archival works that people have made without needing to worry about my computer being infected by dodgy torrents or shady websites. And that's not even getting into the issue of digital games on consoles, for which piracy is even less of an option.
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unknown_VS
11/12/17 6:31:43 PM
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Veedrock- posted...
First, his comparison automatically assumes availability to suit his argument (alliteration++). Yeah there are 5000 year old books he can read, but there's also 5000 year old books he can't read because they're lost to time. But that totally defeats his argument so it's exempted.

Oh, well, yeah that at least is true of course.
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