Current Events > The Atlantic: It's time for Bill Clinton's sexual assault reckoning

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The Admiral 11/13/17 7:25:05 PM #1:	https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/11/reckoning-with-bill-clintons-sex-crimes/545729/ The most remarkable thing about the current tide of sexual assault and harassment accusations is not their number. If every woman in America started talking about the things that happen during the course of an ordinary female life, it would never end. Nor is it the power of the men involved; history instructs us that for countless men, the ability to possess women sexually is not a spoil of power; its the point of power. Whats remarkable is that these women are being believed. ... How vitiated Bill Clinton seemed at the last Democratic convention. Some of his appetites, at least, had waned; his wandering, Norwegian Wood speech about his wife struck the nostalgic notes of a husbands fiftieth anniversary toast, and the crowdfor the most partindulged it in that spirit. Clearly, he was no longer thinking about tomorrow. With a pencil neck and a sagging jacket he clambered gamely onto the stage after Hillarys acceptance speech and played happily with the red balloons that fell from the ceiling. When the couple repeatedly reminded the crowd of their new status as grandparents it was to suggest very different associations in voters minds. Hillarys grandmotherhood was evoked to suggest the next phase in her lifelong work on behalf of women and childrenin this case forging a bond with the millions of American grandmothers who are doing the hard work of raising the next generation, while their own adult children muddle through life. But Bills being a grandfather was intended to send a different message: Dont worry about him anymore; hes old now. He wont get into those messes again. Yet let us not forget the sex crimes of which the younger, stronger Bill Clinton was very credibly accused in the 1990s. Juanita Broaddrick reported that when she was a volunteer on one of his gubernatorial campaigns, she had arranged to meet him in a hotel coffee shop. At the last minute, he had changed the location to her room in the hotel, where she says he very violently raped her. She said she fought against Clinton throughout a rape that left her bloodied. At a different Arkansas hotel, he caught sight of a minor state employee named Paula Jones, and, Jones says, he sent a couple of state troopers to invite her to his suite, where he exposed his penis to her and told her to kiss it. Kathleen Willey said that she met him in the Oval Office for personal and professional advice and that he groped her, rubbed his erect penis on her, and pushed her hand to his crotch. It was a pattern of behavior; it included an alleged violent assault; the women involved had far more credible evidence than many of the most notorious accusations that have come to light in the past five weeks. But Clinton was not left to the swift and pitiless justice that todays accused men have experienced. Rather, he was rescued by a surprising force: machine feminism. The movement had by then ossified into a partisan operation and it was willingeagerto let this friend of the sisterhood enjoy a little droit de seigneur. The notorious 1998 New York Times op-ed by Gloria Steinem must surely stand as one of the most regretted public actions of her life. It slut-shamed, victim-blamed, and age-shamed; it urged compassion for and gratitude to the man the women accused. Moreover (never write an op-ed in a hurry; youll accidentally say what you really believe), it characterized contemporary feminism as a weaponized auxiliary of the Democratic Party. Is the author right? Should Bill be given the same treatment as Weinstein and Cosby for his numerous indiscretions? --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:890332350] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote>https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/11/reckoning-with-bill-clintons-sex-crimes/545729/ <quote>The most remarkable thing about the current tide of sexual assault and harassment accusations is not their number. If every woman in America started talking about the things that happen during the course of an ordinary female life, it would never end. Nor is it the power of the men involved; history instructs us that for countless men, the ability to possess women sexually is not a spoil of power; its the point of power. Whats remarkable is that these women are being believed. ... How vitiated Bill Clinton seemed at the last Democratic convention. Some of his appetites, at least, had waned; his wandering, Norwegian Wood speech about his wife struck the nostalgic notes of a husbands fiftieth anniversary toast, and the crowdfor the most partindulged it in that spirit. Clearly, he was no longer thinking about tomorrow. With a pencil neck and a sagging jacket he clambered gamely onto the stage after Hillarys acceptance speech and played happily with the red balloons that fell from the ceiling. When the couple repeatedly reminded the crowd of their new status as grandparents it was to suggest very different associations in voters minds. Hillarys grandmotherhood was evoked to suggest the next phase in her lifelong work on behalf of women and childrenin this case forging a bond with the millions of American grandmothers who are doing the hard work of raising the next generation, while their own adult children muddle through life. But Bills being a grandfather was intended to send a different message: Dont worry about him anymore; hes old now. He wont get into those messes again. Yet let us not forget the sex crimes of which the younger, stronger Bill Clinton was very credibly accused in the 1990s. Juanita Broaddrick reported that when she was a volunteer on one of his gubernatorial campaigns, she had arranged to meet him in a hotel coffee shop. At the last minute, he had changed the location to her room in the hotel, where she says he very violently raped her. She said she fought against Clinton throughout a rape that left her bloodied. At a different Arkansas hotel, he caught sight of a minor state employee named Paula Jones, and, Jones says, he sent a couple of state troopers to invite her to his suite, where he exposed his penis to her and told her to kiss it. Kathleen Willey said that she met him in the Oval Office for personal and professional advice and that he groped her, rubbed his erect penis on her, and pushed her hand to his crotch. It was a pattern of behavior; it included an alleged violent assault; the women involved had far more credible evidence than many of the most notorious accusations that have come to light in the past five weeks. But Clinton was not left to the swift and pitiless justice that todays accused men have experienced. Rather, he was rescued by a surprising force: machine feminism. The movement had by then ossified into a partisan operation and it was willingeagerto let this friend of the sisterhood enjoy a little droit de seigneur. The notorious 1998 New York Times op-ed by Gloria Steinem must surely stand as one of the most regretted public actions of her life. It slut-shamed, victim-blamed, and age-shamed; it urged compassion for and gratitude to the man the women accused. Moreover (never write an op-ed in a hurry; youll accidentally say what you really believe), it characterized contemporary feminism as a weaponized auxiliary of the Democratic Party.</quote> Is the author right? Should Bill be given the same treatment as Weinstein and Cosby for his numerous indiscretions?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TroutPaste 11/13/17 7:31:25 PM #2:	I wonder if Bill did this though I wonder this about any accuser Just going to sit in my bedroom for all my life so nobody can accuse me --- Cleveland sports fan XBL: FourLeaf440, PSN: TroutPaste89, Steam: 4leaf440, Nintendo: 1800-4200-6969 <cite>TroutPaste posted [p:890332709] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote>I wonder if Bill did this though I wonder this about any accuser Just going to sit in my bedroom for all my life so nobody can accuse me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 11/13/17 7:37:16 PM #3:	He should, but unless new accusations come up, the public has already gotten over it. It's ancient news compared to all these new allegations. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:890333022] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote>He should, but unless new accusations come up, the public has already gotten over it. It's ancient news compared to all these new allegations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 11/13/17 7:37:36 PM #4:	Absolutely --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:890333045] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote>Absolutely</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KarmaMuffin 11/13/17 7:38:29 PM #5:	There is a lot of evidence to suggest that yeah, he's a piece of shit and we need to investigate. No doubt in my mind. What I don't like, and I see this right now with all of LIBERAL HOLLYWOOD, and throughout the 2016 campaign against Bill, is this narrative conservatives have pushed for about how bad sexual assault and harassment is yet turn a blind eye to Trump who has done it as well. Not just the Bush tapes, but the models and the Ivana stuff. Crazy how they just ignore him and defend it with "muh locker room talk with the guys" and choose to attack others for being pieces of shit because of course it's a 'gotcha!' <cite>KarmaMuffin posted [p:890333098] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote>There is a lot of evidence to suggest that yeah, he's a piece of shit and we need to investigate. No doubt in my mind. What I don't like, and I see this right now with all of LIBERAL HOLLYWOOD, and throughout the 2016 campaign against Bill, is this narrative conservatives have pushed for about how bad sexual assault and harassment is yet turn a blind eye to Trump who has done it as well. Not just the Bush tapes, but the models and the Ivana stuff. Crazy how they just ignore him and defend it with "muh locker room talk with the guys" and choose to attack others for being pieces of shit because of course it's a 'gotcha!'</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 11/13/17 7:39:00 PM #6:	hockeybub89 posted... He should, but unless new accusations come up, the public has already gotten over it. It's ancient news compared to all these new allegations. These "new" allegations were from just as long ago as Bill's alleged assaults in most cases. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:890333133] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>He should, but unless new accusations come up, the public has already gotten over it. It's ancient news compared to all these new allegations.</quote> These "new" allegations were from just as long ago as Bill's alleged assaults in most cases.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tryhaptaward 11/13/17 7:40:06 PM #7:	hockeybub89 posted... He should, but unless new accusations come up, the public has already gotten over it. It's ancient news compared to all these new allegations. Sorry, but unless the victims have recovered and forgiven him, the public's opinion doesn't mean shit and shouldn't be brought up as a talking point in the first place. <cite>Tryhaptaward posted [p:890333200] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>He should, but unless new accusations come up, the public has already gotten over it. It's ancient news compared to all these new allegations.</quote> Sorry, but unless the victims have recovered and forgiven him, the public's opinion doesn't mean shit and shouldn't be brought up as a talking point in the first place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tropicalwood 11/13/17 7:40:08 PM #8:	TroutPaste posted... I wonder if Bill did this though I wonder this about any accuser Just going to sit in my bedroom for all my life so nobody can accuse me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy6YNeauN1M --- ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya <cite>Tropicalwood posted [p:890333204] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote><cite>TroutPaste posted...</cite> <quote>I wonder if Bill did this though I wonder this about any accuser Just going to sit in my bedroom for all my life so nobody can accuse me</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy6YNeauN1M</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Callixtus 11/13/17 7:40:18 PM #9:	It's not gonna happen so long as Rodham as the liberal imagination by the balls as the one who "should have won". --- It will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. \| I did not come to bring peace to the earth, but the sword. -Jesus <cite>Callixtus posted [p:890333210] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote>It's not gonna happen so long as Rodham as the liberal imagination by the balls as the one who "should have won".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 11/13/17 7:41:43 PM #10:	KarmaMuffin posted... There is a lot of evidence to suggest that yeah, he's a piece of shit and we need to investigate. No doubt in my mind. What I don't like, and I see this right now with all of LIBERAL HOLLYWOOD, and throughout the 2016 campaign against Bill, is this narrative conservatives have pushed for about how bad sexual assault and harassment is yet turn a blind eye to Trump who has done it as well. Not just the Bush tapes, but the models and the Ivana stuff. Crazy how they just ignore him and defend it with "muh locker room talk with the guys" and choose to attack others for being pieces of shit because of course it's a 'gotcha!' I mean people like Kevin Spacey were talking about how disgusting Trump is because of that, but were guilty of this shit --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:890333290] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote><cite>KarmaMuffin posted...</cite> <quote>There is a lot of evidence to suggest that yeah, he's a piece of shit and we need to investigate. No doubt in my mind. What I don't like, and I see this right now with all of LIBERAL HOLLYWOOD, and throughout the 2016 campaign against Bill, is this narrative conservatives have pushed for about how bad sexual assault and harassment is yet turn a blind eye to Trump who has done it as well. Not just the Bush tapes, but the models and the Ivana stuff. Crazy how they just ignore him and defend it with "muh locker room talk with the guys" and choose to attack others for being pieces of shit because of course it's a 'gotcha!'</quote> I mean people like Kevin Spacey were talking about how disgusting Trump is because of that, but were guilty of this shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gafemaqs 11/13/17 7:41:47 PM #11:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4Rmnfu1QUY --- Sonic 06 is better than you've been told. #LeaveTheFurriesAlone <cite>gafemaqs posted [p:890333295] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4Rmnfu1QUY</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 11/13/17 7:42:42 PM #12:	The Admiral posted... Is the author right? Should Bill be given the same treatment as Weinstein and Cosby for his numerous indiscretions? If he gets donald trump as a cellmate, definitely, absolutely and undeniably. Otherwise, meh \_()_/ --- "I can i i everything else," Bob reportedly said. Alice replied: "Balls have zero to me to me to me..." (Facebook AIs talking to each other) <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:890333364] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Is the author right? Should Bill be given the same treatment as Weinstein and Cosby for his numerous indiscretions?</quote> If he gets donald trump as a cellmate, definitely, absolutely and undeniably. Otherwise, meh \_()_/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 11/13/17 7:43:18 PM #13:	idc, its not important to me either way. --- #FeelTheBern http://i.imgur.com/q5z4CUu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/6B9oFXh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sy42Dlf.jpg <cite>lilORANG posted [p:890333405] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote>idc, its not important to me either way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kim Kusanagi 11/13/17 7:45:01 PM #14:	Answer in the Manafort topic Addy --- Live to train. Train to fight. Fight to live. When you retire, think only on fighting. Take me away, I don't mind, but you better promise I'll be back in time! <cite>Kim Kusanagi posted [p:890333508] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote>Answer in the Manafort topic Addy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cerealbox760 11/13/17 7:45:14 PM #15:	get bill. get trump. get moore. get louis ck. get everyone. no one gets a free pass. people who make this a partisan issue are sick petty people who desperately want to score points for their team. --- Clevo P775 QHD 120hz / i7 7700k 4.5GHZ / GTX 1070 8GB / DDR4 16GB/ 256gb m.2 SSD /Magni-Modi DAC_AMP combo/ ie800. Laptop on the outside. Desktop on the inside. <cite>cerealbox760 posted [p:890333520] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote>get bill. get trump. get moore. get louis ck. get everyone. no one gets a free pass. people who make this a partisan issue are sick petty people who desperately want to score points for their team.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KarmaMuffin 11/13/17 7:48:33 PM #16:	DarthAragorn posted... I mean people like Kevin Spacey were talking about how disgusting Trump is because of that, but were guilty of this shit Sure Spacey and co. calling Trump out for it but being guilty themselves is bad, but I mean, Trump calling Kim Jong-un fat doesn't mean that Trump isn't also fat It's a little hypocritical, but that doesn't mean that either group is wrong <cite>KarmaMuffin posted [p:890333723] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote>I mean people like Kevin Spacey were talking about how disgusting Trump is because of that, but were guilty of this shit </quote> Sure Spacey and co. calling Trump out for it but being guilty themselves is bad, but I mean, Trump calling Kim Jong-un fat doesn't mean that Trump isn't also fat It's a little hypocritical, but that doesn't mean that either group is wrong</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 11/13/17 7:48:36 PM #17:	The Admiral posted... Should Bill be given the same treatment as Weinstein and Cosby for his numerous indiscretions? He has already received the same treatment. He was prosecuted in a court of law, and it turns out that there wasn't any evidence to corroborate the criminal allegations.` --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:890333727] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Should Bill be given the same treatment as Weinstein and Cosby for his numerous indiscretions?</quote> He has already received the same treatment. He was prosecuted in a court of law, and it turns out that there wasn't any evidence to corroborate the criminal allegations.`</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 11/13/17 7:49:15 PM #18:	cerealbox760 posted... get bill. get trump. get moore. get louis ck. get everyone. no one gets a free pass. people who make this a partisan issue are sick petty people who desperately want to score points for their team. Clinton has already been charged and prosecuted. He was vindicated in a court of law. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:890333760] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote><cite>cerealbox760 posted...</cite> <quote>get bill. get trump. get moore. get louis ck. get everyone. no one gets a free pass. people who make this a partisan issue are sick petty people who desperately want to score points for their team.</quote> Clinton has already been charged and prosecuted. He was vindicated in a court of law.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hinakuluiau 11/13/17 7:51:24 PM #19:	KarmaMuffin posted... Sure Spacey and co. calling Trump out for it but being guilty themselves is bad, but I mean, Trump calling Kim Jong-un fat doesn't mean that Trump isn't also fat It's a little hypocritical, but that doesn't mean that either group is wrong To say nothing of the fact that A. Louis CK, Kevin Spacey, Harvey Weinstein, etc. are actually feeling the negative effects for it while Trump isn't. B. We should hold actors to a different level than the president of the United States. --- There are some things where I just bypass critical thinking. - ROD http://error1355.com/ce/Hinakuluiau.html <cite>Hinakuluiau posted [p:890333887] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote><cite>KarmaMuffin posted...</cite> <quote>Sure Spacey and co. calling Trump out for it but being guilty themselves is bad, but I mean, Trump calling Kim Jong-un fat doesn't mean that Trump isn't also fat It's a little hypocritical, but that doesn't mean that either group is wrong</quote> To say nothing of the fact that A. Louis CK, Kevin Spacey, Harvey Weinstein, etc. are actually feeling the negative effects for it while Trump isn't. B. We should hold actors to a different level than the president of the United States.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thanosibe 11/13/17 8:07:12 PM #20:	Kim Kusanagi posted... Answer in the Manafort topic Addy Lmao, Christ this is getting pathetic. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:890334809] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kim Kusanagi posted...</cite> <quote>Answer in the Manafort topic Addy</quote>Lmao, Christ this is getting pathetic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 11/13/17 8:07:48 PM #21:	didnt he have this in the 90s, when he was president? --- http://i.imgur.com/LAvnefi.gif http://i.imgur.com/6kW9fXL.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:890334843] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote>didnt he have this in the 90s, when he was president?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pow Pow Punishment 11/13/17 8:38:43 PM #22:	It baffles me that Bill Clinton is not a pariah in society and still gets mainstream attention and opportunities. --- "I knew that I would get a chance to see the world and beat up its people." -Josh Barnett on martial arts Training: http://Machinhate.blogspot.com <cite>Pow Pow Punishment posted [p:890336764] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote>It baffles me that Bill Clinton is not a pariah in society and still gets mainstream attention and opportunities.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kim Kusanagi 11/13/17 9:19:49 PM #23:	thanosibe posted... Kim Kusanagi posted... Answer in the Manafort topic Addy Lmao, Christ this is getting pathetic. Wtf is your fucking problem --- Live to train. Train to fight. Fight to live. When you retire, think only on fighting. Take me away, I don't mind, but you better promise I'll be back in time! <cite>Kim Kusanagi posted [p:890339356] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote><cite>thanosibe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kim Kusanagi posted...</cite> <quote>Answer in the Manafort topic Addy</quote>Lmao, Christ this is getting pathetic.</quote> Wtf is your fucking problem</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 11/13/17 9:23:04 PM #24:	I don't recall Clinton being brought up nearly this much when Bush was president. What gives now? --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:890339552] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote>I don't recall Clinton being brought up nearly this much when Bush was president. What gives now?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 11/13/17 9:25:43 PM #25:	A_Good_Boy posted... I don't recall Clinton being brought up nearly this much when Bush was president. What gives now? There is a bit of much-deserved reckoning happening for all these chronic sex abusers that got away with it for decades. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:890339715] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote>I don't recall Clinton being brought up nearly this much when Bush was president. What gives now?</quote> There is a bit of much-deserved reckoning happening for all these chronic sex abusers that got away with it for decades.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thanosibe 11/13/17 9:36:34 PM #26:	Kim Kusanagi posted... thanosibe posted... Kim Kusanagi posted... Answer in the Manafort topic Addy Lmao, Christ this is getting pathetic. Wtf is your fucking problem You. Shit posting in unrelated threads ranting about this. Let it go. Get a hobby besides obsessing about a poster on a gaming forum. Christ. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:890340395] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kim Kusanagi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thanosibe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kim Kusanagi posted...</cite> <quote>Answer in the Manafort topic Addy</quote>Lmao, Christ this is getting pathetic.</quote> Wtf is your fucking problem</quote>You. Shit posting in unrelated threads ranting about this. Let it go. Get a hobby besides obsessing about a poster on a gaming forum. Christ.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kim Kusanagi 11/13/17 9:47:02 PM #27:	thanosibe posted... Kim Kusanagi posted... thanosibe posted... Kim Kusanagi posted... Answer in the Manafort topic Addy Lmao, Christ this is getting pathetic. Wtf is your fucking problem You. Shit posting in unrelated threads ranting about this. Let it go. Get a hobby besides obsessing about a poster on a gaming forum. Christ. Do you want me to share your nut hugging hobby? --- Live to train. Train to fight. Fight to live. When you retire, think only on fighting. Take me away, I don't mind, but you better promise I'll be back in time! <cite>Kim Kusanagi posted [p:890340996] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote><cite>thanosibe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kim Kusanagi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thanosibe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kim Kusanagi posted...</cite> <quote>Answer in the Manafort topic Addy</quote>Lmao, Christ this is getting pathetic.</quote> Wtf is your fucking problem</quote>You. Shit posting in unrelated threads ranting about this. Let it go. Get a hobby besides obsessing about a poster on a gaming forum. Christ.</quote> Do you want me to share your nut hugging hobby?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 11/13/17 9:49:57 PM #28:	The Admiral posted... These "new" allegations were from just as long ago as Bill's alleged assaults in most cases. I think he's saying the allegations themselves aren't new, not anything about when they allegedly happened. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:890341185] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>These "new" allegations were from just as long ago as Bill's alleged assaults in most cases.</quote> I think he's saying the allegations themselves aren't new, not anything about when they allegedly happened.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 11/13/17 9:51:54 PM #29:	thanosibe posted... Kim Kusanagi posted... Answer in the Manafort topic Addy Lmao, Christ this is getting pathetic. It was pathetic from the very moment that topic was made. --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:890341312] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote><cite>thanosibe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kim Kusanagi posted...</cite> <quote>Answer in the Manafort topic Addy</quote>Lmao, Christ this is getting pathetic.</quote> It was pathetic from the very moment that topic was made.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 11/13/17 9:54:28 PM #30:	Is admiral capable of talking about anything else but liberals? --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:890341462] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote>Is admiral capable of talking about anything else but liberals?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Returning_CEmen 11/13/17 9:55:02 PM #31:	WTF kind of title is that. --- http://i.imgtc.com/BOhYeOg.jpg <cite>Returning_CEmen posted [p:890341502] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote>WTF kind of title is that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 11/13/17 10:21:50 PM #32:	Meanwhile, on the opinion pages of the New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/13/opinion/juanita-broaddrick-bill-clinton.html Ron Paul It's Happening dot gif --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:890343186] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote>Meanwhile, on the opinion pages of the New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/13/opinion/juanita-broaddrick-bill-clinton.html Ron Paul It's Happening dot gif</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KStateKing17 11/13/17 10:27:05 PM #33:	I agree they all need to be held accountable for whatever they did to those people, but I don't think this topic comes from a genuine desire for justice for the victims. --- I've lost the use of my heart, but I'm still alive. <cite>KStateKing17 posted [p:890343564] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote>I agree they all need to be held accountable for whatever they did to those people, but I don't think this topic comes from a genuine desire for justice for the victims.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Endofall 11/13/17 10:33:27 PM #35:	The Admiral posted... hockeybub89 posted... He should, but unless new accusations come up, the public has already gotten over it. It's ancient news compared to all these new allegations. These "new" allegations were from just as long ago as Bill's alleged assaults in most cases. I think he was being satirical <cite>Endofall posted [p:890344002] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>He should, but unless new accusations come up, the public has already gotten over it. It's ancient news compared to all these new allegations.</quote> These "new" allegations were from just as long ago as Bill's alleged assaults in most cases.</quote> I think he was being satirical</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 11/14/17 9:47:35 AM #37:	Absolutely. --- Now Playing: South Park: FbW (PC), Cuphead (PC) *(~);} - Get out the pans, don't just stand there dreamin' - {;(~)* <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:890365049] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote>Absolutely.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 11/14/17 5:36:47 PM #38:	@hockeybub89 posted... He should, but unless new accusations come up, the public has already gotten over it. It's ancient news compared to all these new allegations. so if Trump supporters said the grab her by the p thing was said in 2005 and the people involved got over it would you say that is sound logic? --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:890392222] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote><cite>@hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>He should, but unless new accusations come up, the public has already gotten over it. It's ancient news compared to all these new allegations.</quote> so if Trump supporters said the grab her by the p thing was said in 2005 and the people involved got over it would you say that is sound logic?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 11/14/17 5:47:20 PM #39:	KarmaMuffin posted... There is a lot of evidence to suggest that yeah, he's a piece of shit and we need to investigate. No doubt in my mind. What I don't like, and I see this right now with all of LIBERAL HOLLYWOOD, and throughout the 2016 campaign against Bill, is this narrative conservatives have pushed for about how bad sexual assault and harassment is yet turn a blind eye to Trump who has done it as well. Not just the Bush tapes, but the models and the Ivana stuff. Crazy how they just ignore him and defend it with "muh locker room talk with the guys" and choose to attack others for being pieces of shit because of course it's a 'gotcha!' As opposed to the narrative liberals have pushed about how bad it is when Trump and the Fox News crew are accused, yet never cared much about Clinton, or even the Hollywood stuff until it reached a critical mass where it had to be acknowledged? It's not a liberal/conservative issue. People in general love to insist the other side is evil and their side is wonderful regardless of what "side" they themselves are on. And so every time this kind of topic comes up you get the same old thing where people preach about how awful it is while simultaneously refusing to consider it could be a problem when people they like do it. --- We clasped our hands, our hands in praise of a conquerors right to tyranny <cite>Panthera posted [p:890392842] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote><cite>KarmaMuffin posted...</cite> <quote>There is a lot of evidence to suggest that yeah, he's a piece of shit and we need to investigate. No doubt in my mind. What I don't like, and I see this right now with all of LIBERAL HOLLYWOOD, and throughout the 2016 campaign against Bill, is this narrative conservatives have pushed for about how bad sexual assault and harassment is yet turn a blind eye to Trump who has done it as well. Not just the Bush tapes, but the models and the Ivana stuff. Crazy how they just ignore him and defend it with "muh locker room talk with the guys" and choose to attack others for being pieces of shit because of course it's a 'gotcha!'</quote> As opposed to the narrative liberals have pushed about how bad it is when Trump and the Fox News crew are accused, yet never cared much about Clinton, or even the Hollywood stuff until it reached a critical mass where it had to be acknowledged? It's not a liberal/conservative issue. People in general love to insist the other side is evil and their side is wonderful regardless of what "side" they themselves are on. And so every time this kind of topic comes up you get the same old thing where people preach about how awful it is while simultaneously refusing to consider it could be a problem when people they like do it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 11/14/17 6:01:30 PM #40:	darkphoenix181 posted... @hockeybub89 posted... He should, but unless new accusations come up, the public has already gotten over it. It's ancient news compared to all these new allegations. so if Trump supporters said the grab her by the p thing was said in 2005 and the people involved got over it would you say that is sound logic? pussy. The word was pussy. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:890393655] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>He should, but unless new accusations come up, the public has already gotten over it. It's ancient news compared to all these new allegations.</quote> so if Trump supporters said the grab her by the p thing was said in 2005 and the people involved got over it would you say that is sound logic?</quote> pussy. The word was pussy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 11/14/17 6:17:08 PM #41:	This is outrageous. People are just going after Bill because he was America's first black president. Leave Bill alone. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:890394513] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote>This is outrageous. People are just going after Bill because he was America's first black president. Leave Bill alone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 11/14/17 6:18:49 PM #42:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... darkphoenix181 posted... @hockeybub89 posted... He should, but unless new accusations come up, the public has already gotten over it. It's ancient news compared to all these new allegations. so if Trump supporters said the grab her by the p thing was said in 2005 and the people involved got over it would you say that is sound logic? pussy. The word was pussy. I am too pussy to say pussy p --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:890394595] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>He should, but unless new accusations come up, the public has already gotten over it. It's ancient news compared to all these new allegations.</quote> so if Trump supporters said the grab her by the p thing was said in 2005 and the people involved got over it would you say that is sound logic?</quote> pussy. The word was pussy.</quote> I am too pussy to say pussy p</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 11/14/17 7:49:04 PM #43:	darkphoenix181 posted... @hockeybub89 posted... He should, but unless new accusations come up, the public has already gotten over it. It's ancient news compared to all these new allegations. so if Trump supporters said the grab her by the p thing was said in 2005 and the people involved got over it would you say that is sound logic? What I'm saying is. If Kevin Spacey is one day forgiven by society for abusing Anthony Rapp and the others, we won't be able to destroy him by bringing it up again. You need some kind of new information. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:890399791] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>He should, but unless new accusations come up, the public has already gotten over it. It's ancient news compared to all these new allegations.</quote> so if Trump supporters said the grab her by the p thing was said in 2005 and the people involved got over it would you say that is sound logic?</quote> What I'm saying is. If Kevin Spacey is one day forgiven by society for abusing Anthony Rapp and the others, we won't be able to destroy him by bringing it up again. You need some kind of new information.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 11/14/17 7:55:47 PM #44:	didn't Lewinski consent, though? huge difference --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson i.imgur.com/a2EzoIs.gif i.imgur.com/rPcGRiP.gif <cite>HylianFox posted [p:890400164] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote>didn't Lewinski consent, though? huge difference</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 11/14/17 8:01:32 PM #46:	HylianFox posted... didn't Lewinski consent, though? huge difference Lewinsky was not the only woman in Bill Clinton's story --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:890400486] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote><cite>HylianFox posted...</cite> <quote>didn't Lewinski consent, though? huge difference</quote> Lewinsky was not the only woman in Bill Clinton's story</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 11/14/17 8:14:48 PM #48:	Bullet_Wing posted... Uh, they DO say that though, and that is their logic behind defending it. By no means am I defending Clinton here, as I disagree with what hockey said. I am not asking if they do that I am asking if their logic is correct --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:890401314] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote>Uh, they DO say that though, and that is their logic behind defending it. By no means am I defending Clinton here, as I disagree with what hockey said.</quote> I am not asking if they do that I am asking if their logic is correct</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthAragorn 11/14/17 8:36:12 PM #50:	Bullet_Wing posted... darkphoenix181 posted... Bullet_Wing posted... Uh, they DO say that though, and that is their logic behind defending it. By no means am I defending Clinton here, as I disagree with what hockey said. I am not asking if they do that I am asking if their logic is correct Nope, just as wrong as Hockey's logic in this situation I think he was asking hockeybub --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:890402550] in The Atlant... [t:75988075]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote> Uh, they DO say that though, and that is their logic behind defending it. By no means am I defending Clinton here, as I disagree with what hockey said. </quote> I am not asking if they do that I am asking if their logic is correct</quote> Nope, just as wrong as Hockey's logic in this situation</quote> I think he was asking hockeybub</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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