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I Like Toast 11/15/17 12:35:12 AM #103:	TrevorBlack79 posted... Quote the text where I said anything about a specific wage amount, please. I'll wait. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75990832/890405849 You know the post where you said the original .25/hr, which is $4.35 today, was "intended to be a living wage" It's okay, you can just say, "Yeah sorry, I assumed that was the intent. But I didn't actually know that sustainable and living wage are different things. I also had no idea how many things are covered in FLSA and trying to pretend it was just about min wage is naive and proving a poor argument, as shown by me not being able to actually ever defend my original statement" see here https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75990832/890408572 I thought it was Obama since the last increase was 09, but it was Bush since it was based on a bill that had annual increase, so I admitted to being wrong. The world didn't end, it in fact kept spinning and I obtained knowledge. Zeus posted... In fact, it might been the explicit reason for making a minimum wage. In fact, it explicitly wasn't. It was about preventing post great depression workers from being too extremely exploited by the large amount of people seeking jobs. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:890416735] in Why should... [t:75990832]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote> Quote the text where I said anything about a specific wage amount, please. I'll wait.</quote> https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75990832/890405849 You know the post where you said the original .25/hr, which is $4.35 today, was "intended to be a living wage" It's okay, you can just say, "Yeah sorry, I assumed that was the intent. But I didn't actually know that sustainable and living wage are different things. I also had no idea how many things are covered in FLSA and trying to pretend it was just about min wage is naive and proving a poor argument, as shown by me not being able to actually ever defend my original statement" see here https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75990832/890408572 I thought it was Obama since the last increase was 09, but it was Bush since it was based on a bill that had annual increase, so I admitted to being wrong. The world didn't end, it in fact kept spinning and I obtained knowledge. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote> In fact, it might been the explicit reason for making a minimum wage.</quote> In fact, it explicitly wasn't. It was about preventing post great depression workers from being too extremely exploited by the large amount of people seeking jobs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 11/15/17 12:36:21 AM #104:	So you can't. Got it. Tagging appropriately. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:890416780] in Why should... [t:75990832]...</cite> <quote>So you can't. Got it. Tagging appropriately.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 11/15/17 12:38:09 AM #105:	Australia has a federally mandated minimum wage; $18/hour. We also have very good healthcare. Ditch the land of the freely greedy. Australia welcomes you with open arms, all hairy 8 of them. --- Talent hits a target no one else can hit. Genius hits a target no one else can see. - Arthur Schopenhauer. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:890416851] in Why should... [t:75990832]...</cite> <quote>Australia has a federally mandated minimum wage; $18/hour. We also have very good healthcare. Ditch the land of the freely greedy. Australia welcomes you with open arms, all hairy 8 of them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 11/15/17 12:50:14 AM #106:	'you can't do the thing you literally just did' ~ some clown who knows he's wrong. 008Zulu posted... Australia has a federally mandated minimum wage; $18/hour. We also have very good healthcare. Ditch the land of the freely greedy. Australia welcomes you with open arms, all hairy 8 of them. and pays 10-25% more for nearly everything even after adjusting for AUD to USD. Not to mention one of the few developed countries with an even shitier highspeed internet options than the US. https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Australia&country2=United+States --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:890417373] in Why should... [t:75990832]...</cite> <quote>'you can't do the thing you literally just did' ~ some clown who knows he's wrong. <cite>008Zulu posted...</cite> <quote>Australia has a federally mandated minimum wage; $18/hour. We also have very good healthcare. Ditch the land of the freely greedy. Australia welcomes you with open arms, all hairy 8 of them.</quote> and pays 10-25% more for nearly everything even after adjusting for AUD to USD. Not to mention one of the few developed countries with an even shitier highspeed internet options than the US. https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Australia&country2=United+States</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 11/15/17 1:04:30 AM #107:	I Like Toast posted... 'you can't do the thing you literally just did' ~ some clown who knows he's wrong. Except you didn't. The post you linked to doesn't specify a wage amount, which is what I asked you to quote. Try again. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:890417920] in Why should... [t:75990832]...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote>'you can't do the thing you literally just did' ~ some clown who knows he's wrong.</quote> Except you didn't. The post you linked to doesn't specify a wage amount, which is what I asked you to quote. Try again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inferno Dive Dragoon 11/15/17 1:31:27 AM #108:	I Like Toast posted... You're in a topic that literally has someone saying anyone who wants the min wage increased should be murdered. But yeah i'm the most bat shit 'people' here because I can prove your ignorance. Whoa, wait, what? I'm for an increase in the minimum wage on account of being part of the lower class that could benefit from it (assuming I ever get a job anyway), the people I don't take kindly to is anyone against it, which is usually some middle or upper class twit (IE: a yuppie) who doesn't know any better. I mean, sure, you can still call me crazy for my hostile comments, but I must have made one hell of a typo somewhere if people thought I was anti-living wage. If that's the case, apologies for any error on my part. --- Les aristocrates a la lanterne! Les aristocrates on les pendra! <cite>Inferno Dive Dragoon posted [p:890418898] in Why should... [t:75990832]...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote>You're in a topic that literally has someone saying anyone who wants the min wage increased should be murdered. But yeah i'm the most bat shit 'people' here because I can prove your ignorance.</quote> Whoa, wait, what? I'm for an increase in the minimum wage on account of being part of the lower class that could benefit from it (assuming I ever get a job anyway), the people I don't take kindly to is anyone against it, which is usually some middle or upper class twit (IE: a yuppie) who doesn't know any better. I mean, sure, you can still call me crazy for my hostile comments, but I must have made one hell of a typo somewhere if people thought I was anti-living wage. If that's the case, apologies for any error on my part.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gamer99z 11/15/17 1:32:57 AM #109:	I Like Toast posted... Better a hoth tier shit poster than a someone helping trump get that second term Hoth is pro Trump and literally posts on The_Donald lol. He's the definition of what you just said meanwhile you just saying that about anyone who has an opinion different than yours. All of your posts ITT consist of taken portions of posts and ignoring the rest, making strawman argunents, and saying everyone who says anything you don't agree with is why Trump won. I don't know why anyone even engages in conversation with you anymore, you have nothing to actually discuss. --- "You need to lay off the peanut-butthurt and u-jelly sandwiches" - Neon Octopus <cite>Gamer99z posted [p:890418954] in Why should... [t:75990832]...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote>Better a hoth tier shit poster than a someone helping trump get that second term</quote> Hoth is pro Trump and literally posts on The_Donald lol. He's the definition of what you just said meanwhile you just saying that about anyone who has an opinion different than yours. All of your posts ITT consist of taken portions of posts and ignoring the rest, making strawman argunents, and saying everyone who says anything you don't agree with is why Trump won. I don't know why anyone even engages in conversation with you anymore, you have nothing to actually discuss.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 11/15/17 2:13:52 AM #110:	M_Live posted... Somebody literally has to do the minimum wage jobs, there's simply not enough "good" jobs for everybody. Yup. We can talk all we want about how minimum wage jobs are only "meant" for kids living with their parents, but the reality is that even if every single adult living in the country was skilled enough for the better jobs, there still wouldn't be enough of those jobs available. Meaning it is an inevitability that many adults would HAVE to take a low-paying job that they're overqualified for. --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:890420318] in Why should... [t:75990832]...</cite> <quote><cite>M_Live posted...</cite> <quote>Somebody literally has to do the minimum wage jobs, there's simply not enough "good" jobs for everybody.</quote> Yup. We can talk all we want about how minimum wage jobs are only "meant" for kids living with their parents, but the reality is that even if every single adult living in the country was skilled enough for the better jobs, there still wouldn't be enough of those jobs available. Meaning it is an inevitability that many adults would HAVE to take a low-paying job that they're overqualified for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inferno Dive Dragoon 11/15/17 5:35:39 AM #111:	Judging by this moderation I just received, it would appear as though I triggered a yuppie. (Might even be the same one from a previous topic.) Whichever snowflake it was, I hope they stay mad, but more importantly, I hope they stay afraid. --- Les aristocrates a la lanterne! Les aristocrates on les pendra! <cite>Inferno Dive Dragoon posted [p:890424480] in Why should... [t:75990832]...</cite> <quote>Judging by this moderation I just received, it would appear as though I triggered a yuppie. (Might even be the same one from a previous topic.) Whichever snowflake it was, I hope they stay mad, but more importantly, I hope they stay afraid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 11/15/17 5:36:53 AM #112:	what purpose is there to work other than to live? you can make up crap about wanting to better society or yourself or whatever but 100% you would not work a job if it didn't pay you enough. simple as that, there are no two sides to this. --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:890424498] in Why should... [t:75990832]...</cite> <quote>what purpose is there to work other than to live? you can make up crap about wanting to better society or yourself or whatever but 100% you would not work a job if it didn't pay you enough. simple as that, there are no two sides to this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 11/15/17 5:45:11 AM #113:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... We can talk all we want about how minimum wage jobs are only "meant" for kids Which is a dumb fuckin' argument because no one's arguing that McDonald's and Walmart should only be open in the afternoon and on weekends. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:890424636] in Why should... [t:75990832]...</cite> <quote><cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted...</cite> <quote> We can talk all we want about how minimum wage jobs are only "meant" for kids</quote> Which is a dumb fuckin' argument because no one's arguing that McDonald's and Walmart should only be open in the afternoon and on weekends.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Akagami_Shanks 11/15/17 5:49:58 AM #114:	If someone works full time, why should they not be able to live? Hell I live with my mom and I'm 22, most of my money goes towards paying bills and my huge car insurance, even with the money left over I have nowhere near enough to afford rent in NJ, I'd literally be homeless --- http://i.imgur.com/MFTpPuq.jpg <cite>Akagami_Shanks posted [p:890424719] in Why should... [t:75990832]...</cite> <quote>If someone works full time, why should they not be able to live? Hell I live with my mom and I'm 22, most of my money goes towards paying bills and my huge car insurance, even with the money left over I have nowhere near enough to afford rent in NJ, I'd literally be homeless</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 11/15/17 6:14:20 AM #115:	pegusus123456 posted... RchHomieQuanChi posted... We can talk all we want about how minimum wage jobs are only "meant" for kids Which is a dumb fuckin' argument because no one's arguing that McDonald's and Walmart should only be open in the afternoon and on weekends. Great point. --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:890425138] in Why should... [t:75990832]...</cite> <quote><cite>pegusus123456 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted...</cite> <quote> We can talk all we want about how minimum wage jobs are only "meant" for kids</quote> Which is a dumb fuckin' argument because no one's arguing that McDonald's and Walmart should only be open in the afternoon and on weekends.</quote> Great point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SavenForever 11/15/17 6:55:42 AM #116:	I feel that everyone should have a financial chance to live on their own instead of punishing them for it. I don't know if that would be economically feasible though. --- http://i.imgur.com/aFt7pKH.jpg <cite>SavenForever posted [p:890426068] in Why should... [t:75990832]...</cite> <quote>I feel that everyone should have a financial chance to live on their own instead of punishing them for it. I don't know if that would be economically feasible though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MutantJohn 11/15/17 8:00:20 PM #117:	Well, unfortunately I have seen actual poor people in the working class be against a higher minimum wage. Mind you, these are also the same people who think it's okay to work 60 hours a week across two part time jobs while simultaneously raising at least 3 children. So basically, these are people who are so desperate that management can lie to them and manipulate them. All a manager has to say is, "if we raise wages, I'll have to cut your hours". That's enough to scare these people into, honestly, voting against their own interests. --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling <cite>MutantJohn posted [p:890466906] in Why should... [t:75990832]...</cite> <quote>Well, unfortunately I have seen actual poor people in the working class be against a higher minimum wage. Mind you, these are also the same people who think it's okay to work 60 hours a week across two part time jobs while simultaneously raising at least 3 children. So basically, these are people who are so desperate that management can lie to them and manipulate them. All a manager has to say is, "if we raise wages, I'll have to cut your hours". That's enough to scare these people into, honestly, voting against their own interests.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MutantJohn 11/15/17 8:00:32 PM #118:	SavenForever posted... I feel that everyone should have a financial chance to live on their own instead of punishing them for it. I don't know if that would be economically feasible though. Yes, it is. --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling <cite>MutantJohn posted [p:890466915] in Why should... [t:75990832]...</cite> <quote><cite>SavenForever posted...</cite> <quote>I feel that everyone should have a financial chance to live on their own instead of punishing them for it. I don't know if that would be economically feasible though.</quote> Yes, it is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EternalDivide 11/15/17 8:36:44 PM #119:	CADE FOSTER posted... The pay should rise everytime inflation raises prices on everything This. --- FFVII Remake: A disaster in the making. I'll laugh at whatever I find funny whether you like it or not. <cite>EternalDivide posted [p:890468932] in Why should... [t:75990832]...</cite> <quote><cite>CADE FOSTER posted...</cite> <quote>The pay should rise everytime inflation raises prices on everything</quote> This.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cerealbox760 11/15/17 8:53:35 PM #120:	Here's a billionaire who wants a $15 minimum wage: https://www.ted.com/talks/nick_hanauer_beware_fellow_plutocrats_the_pitchforks_are_coming#t-2934 What does CE think? --- Clevo P775 QHD 120hz / i7 7700k 4.5GHZ / GTX 1070 8GB / DDR4 16GB/ 256gb m.2 SSD /Magni-Modi DAC_AMP combo/ ie800. Laptop on the outside. Desktop on the inside. <cite>cerealbox760 posted [p:890469837] in Why should... [t:75990832]...</cite> <quote>Here's a billionaire who wants a $15 minimum wage: https://www.ted.com/talks/nick_hanauer_beware_fellow_plutocrats_the_pitchforks_are_coming#t-2934 What does CE think?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
REMercsChamp 11/15/17 9:28:40 PM #121:	cerealbox760 posted... Here's a billionaire who wants a $15 minimum wage: https://www.ted.com/talks/nick_hanauer_beware_fellow_plutocrats_the_pitchforks_are_coming#t-2934 What does CE think? Yeah, great. And then we can just print more money to offset the costs, right? I'm sure we can find some kajillionaire to back that one up too. --- https://i.imgur.com/lwkIVOb.png <cite>REMercsChamp posted [p:890471719] in Why should... [t:75990832]...</cite> <quote><cite>cerealbox760 posted...</cite> <quote>Here's a billionaire who wants a $15 minimum wage: https://www.ted.com/talks/nick_hanauer_beware_fellow_plutocrats_the_pitchforks_are_coming#t-2934 What does CE think?</quote> Yeah, great. And then we can just print more money to offset the costs, right? I'm sure we can find some kajillionaire to back that one up too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 11/15/17 10:28:50 PM #122:	Remercs embarrassing himself yet again. Why do people still take him seriously? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:890474828] in Why should... [t:75990832]...</cite> <quote>Remercs embarrassing himself yet again. Why do people still take him seriously?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Catgirl Fondler 11/16/17 5:23:41 AM #123:	Judging by the suspension of my main I just received, it would appear as though I not only triggered a yuppie, I got them downright shitting their pants in rage. (Which proves it's the same one from a previous topic.) Stay mad, stay afraid, snowflake. inb4 they scream and stamp their feet some more Ayy LMAO. --- N/A <cite>The Catgirl Fondler posted [p:890488873] in Why should... [t:75990832]...</cite> <quote>Judging by the suspension of my main I just received, it would appear as though I not only triggered a yuppie, I got them downright shitting their pants in rage. (Which proves it's the same one from a previous topic.) Stay mad, stay afraid, snowflake. inb4 they scream and stamp their feet some more Ayy LMAO.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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