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robert21
11/15/17 12:51:20 AM
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Sisko is best captain
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Medussa
11/15/17 1:12:39 AM
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duh?
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MabusIncarnate
11/15/17 1:13:53 AM
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Enterprise? Quantum Leap? Bro has a lap dog.

COME ON!
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nevershine
11/15/17 1:14:10 AM
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While it's a pretty good Star Trek show, I'll have to disagree and say that TNG is a bit better
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E32005
11/15/17 1:15:52 AM
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MabusIncarnate
11/15/17 1:16:12 AM
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Deep Space 9 is unanimously declared as the worst ever. For good reason.
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robert21
11/15/17 1:22:30 AM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
Deep Space 9 is unanimously declared as the worst ever. For good reason.


And those are??
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The Admiral
11/15/17 1:32:26 AM
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DS9 is the most consistently good ST series, but it never reaches the heights of TNG. TNG has a dozen amazing, unforgettable episodes; DS9 has maybe 4-5. Still, DS9 never comes close to the shit that was season 1 of TNG.
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TrevorBlack79
11/15/17 1:35:12 AM
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TNG = DS9 (depending on if I want to watch episodic or serialized ST) > VOY > ENT > ToS

I only rank ENT above ToS because ToS is too damn cheezy. ENT is much worse for its era, with inexcusable writing and lame attempts at fan service, but ToS has aged horribly, making it borderline unwatchable to me.

TNG and DS9 are the obvious powerhouses. Not much to say here.

VOY has a lot of bad. Poor planning on the part of the writers, ignoring Voyager's limited crew and resources. I can count the likable characters on one hand, and only two of them are developed in any way over the course of the show. Janeway is the worst captain. Ever. But there's some really good stuff. Most episodes revolving around 7 and the Doctor are really good. Same with Icheb. My favorite episodes heavily involve him, Child's Play and Imperfection. There are some gems in VOY, but you really have to dig to find them.

I haven't watched STD (lol) yet, and from the sound of things I'm not missing much.

Honorable mention to The Orville. Definitely get that TNG vibe here, albeit with much more comedy, obviously.
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philsov
11/15/17 2:53:03 PM
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Sisko was a good captain, but I didn't enjoy the premise of DS9. It was a passive starbase. All the drama came to them.

They weren't bored explorers poking around on alien homeworlds
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robert21
11/15/17 7:46:33 PM
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philsov posted...
Sisko was a good captain, but I didn't enjoy the premise of DS9. It was a passive starbase. All the drama came to them.

They weren't bored explorers poking around on alien homeworlds


Eh, they didnt need to be explorers. We saw enough of the exploration side of star trek with TOS and TNG. The series needed a realistic look at a military situation and normal daily life, which is what DS9 offered.
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kuwab0
11/15/17 8:16:27 PM
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Avery Brooks is a great actor, I never knew he wasnt Black when I watched DS9
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robert21
11/15/17 8:27:08 PM
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kuwab0 posted...
Avery Brooks is a great actor, I never knew he wasnt Black when I watched DS9


wat
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The Admiral
11/15/17 9:11:04 PM
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robert21 posted...
kuwab0 posted...
Avery Brooks is a great actor, I never knew he wasnt Black when I watched DS9


wat

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The Admiral
11/15/17 9:15:01 PM
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Anyway, DS9 probably takes the crown for being the ST series with the fewest number of annoying characters. They're all pretty solid. The weakest regular is probably Jake, and even he's not too bad. The Ferengi other than Quark are pretty annoying, but their screen time is mostly limited. Bashir can be a little too pompous also, but his character is improved significantly when you learn his backstory. Everyone else is great.
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kuwab0
11/15/17 10:24:14 PM
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The Admiral posted...
robert21 posted...
kuwab0 posted...
Avery Brooks is a great actor, I never knew he wasnt Black when I watched DS9


wat

That article that said STD had the first Black lead
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Dash_Harber
11/15/17 10:28:55 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
Deep Space 9 is unanimously declared as the worst ever. For good reason.


Ummmm ... no it's not.

DS9 is my favorite. But even looking at the general consensus, Enterprise is probably considered the 'worst' with Voyager generally being considered the most disappointing.
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TrevorBlack79
11/16/17 12:10:03 PM
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Jake was annoying as a reporter. Prior to that he wasn't bad, he was just there.
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Dash_Harber
11/18/17 12:32:14 AM
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ClunkerSlim posted...
The Admiral posted...
The weakest regular is probably Jake, and even he's not too bad.

I never thought Jake was that weak. He actually had some pretty good episodes. He was also unique in that he was the first main character in Star Trek that had no interest in becoming a Star Fleet Officer. To me the weakest character was Dax (until she got replaced). I just instantly tune out at those Trill heavy episodes. She was a great supporting character but I just wasnt a fan when the story focused on her.


There is an episode in the first season where she is put on trial for a murder that Kurzon was accused of. That was pretty good.

I get why someone would say that Jake is the weakest, but I still think Quark had the worst episodes. That one where they all get transported back to Roswell was laughably bad.
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