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lilORANG
11/16/17 10:37:14 PM
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I don't remember where the backslash goes in the title.

anywho, just finished up fate apocrypha, which was flippin' rad af.

This one already feels different tho, like why is Saber considered the strongest? Saber wasn't strongest in Apocrypha.
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Tmaster148
11/16/17 10:39:22 PM
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Fate/Stay Night.

Saber is just the class. In this game setting the character who belongs to the Saber unit is just considered the strongest of the other characters summoned for the game. But also Saber is one of the main character.
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lilORANG
11/16/17 10:40:02 PM
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why do they keep their true names a secret?
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Tmaster148
11/16/17 10:41:07 PM
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The servants are real heroes who are summoned to fight in the game. Knowing who they are means you can figure out what their weapon and special is which makes it easier to fight them.
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lilORANG
11/16/17 10:42:13 PM
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but don't you already know the guy in the archer class uses a bow? And lancer uses a lance....etc.?
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Tmaster148
11/16/17 10:42:53 PM
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Not necessarily. Archer in Fate/Stay Night barely uses a bow.
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lilORANG
11/16/17 11:27:04 PM
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Lol why is King Arthur wearing a school girl uniform?
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Tmaster148
11/16/17 11:29:34 PM
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As far as Fate/Stay Night is concerned, King Arthur is just an allias.
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Vortex_of_Hope
11/16/17 11:30:30 PM
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lilORANG posted...
Lol why is King Arthur wearing a school girl uniform?


To use this as an example I'm pretty sure Arthur has dragon blood so heroic spirits with dragonslaying abilities get an advantage. You watched Apocrypha and should remember rider of blacks legendary weakness. Thats why names are supposed to be protected.
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Axiom
11/16/17 11:33:30 PM
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My condolences. Easily the worst of the Fate series unless the new one somehow topped it which I doubt
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Tmaster148
11/16/17 11:35:00 PM
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Axiom posted...
My condolences. Easily the worst of the Fate series unless the new one somehow topped it which I doubt


UWB was pretty good. Fate/Stay Night was just poorly done adaptation of the VN route. There's also Fate/Zero which is a prequel to the Fate/Stay Night.
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lilORANG
11/16/17 11:37:45 PM
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Axiom posted...
My condolences. Easily the worst of the Fate series unless the new one somehow topped it which I doubt

So far the teenage drama shit is taking up way too much of the time lol. But every time a servant is on screen it gets real good.
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Talks
11/16/17 11:38:42 PM
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Would reading it be a big waste of time? I liked reading Tsukihime
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Tmaster148
11/16/17 11:40:09 PM
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Talks posted...
Would reading it be a big waste of time? I liked reading Tsukihime


Generally the best method agreed upon for watching Fate/Stay Night is to read the VN for the first route then watch UWB. Or just skip it.

There's arguments about if you should watch Fate/Zero before UWB or the upcoming movie Heaven's Feel. As they spoil each other.
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Axiom
11/16/17 11:41:25 PM
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The human characters are all pretty terrible in it. Shiro was an insufferable annoyance in Night and his attitude towards Saber really got under my skin. The best part of it was one of the last episodes when Archer talks about what he wants to do to Saber. I laughed pretty hard at that
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Tmaster148
11/16/17 11:43:14 PM
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Axiom posted...
The human characters are all pretty terrible in it. Shiro was an insufferable annoyance in Night and his attitude towards Saber really got under my skin. The best part of it was one of the last episodes when Archer talks about what he wants to do to Saber. I laughed pretty hard at that


To be honest, I don't think anyone can be worse than Shinji.
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lilORANG
11/17/17 9:57:16 PM
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Ugh, the scenes not involving servants fighting are awful, but i keep watching for the few minutes of action i get because it's really good fight choreography.

But right now he's whining that he's too short and shes reassuring him that he'll grow big and strong...
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GiftedACIII
11/17/17 9:59:06 PM
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lilORANG posted...
Lol why is King Arthur wearing a school girl uniform?

Why shouldn't he?

Edit: oh wait, King Arthur is that blue blond haired girl that's pretty much the icon of the series? Wow, I didn't know that.
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lilORANG
11/17/17 10:23:12 PM
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Omg this dumb idiot just commanded saber to stop fighting in the middle of a fight and is now bitching that she got body snatched like wtf maybe don't do stupid shit.
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JRaasin
11/17/17 10:25:51 PM
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Finished Fate Apocrypha? It's still airing bro
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lilORANG
11/17/17 10:31:25 PM
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Lol i don't watch anime live like some weeb. I binge it on Netflix like a normal adult.
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Skye Reynolds
11/17/17 10:38:41 PM
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Making King Arthur a girl is why I never gave that show a chance. Like, that's just too weird. I can't say I'm a super fan of the Arthurian legend, but I've seen a couple interpretations over the years and I don't care to have his bearded highness replaced with a big boobied blonde just because Japan wants to fuck literally everything.
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Vortex_of_Hope
11/17/17 10:43:06 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
Making King Arthur a girl is why I never gave that show a chance. Like, that's just too weird. I can't say I'm a super fan of the Arthurian legend, but I've seen a couple interpretations over the years and I don't care to have his bearded highness replaced with a big boobied blonde just because Japan wants to fuck literally everything.


I mean you aren't entirely wrong but she is far from the worst character. She does have a decent character in the frame of the franchise as a whole. But yea her route only really exists to force a relationship as hard as possible for little reason..
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Eevee-Trainer
11/17/17 10:44:42 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
Watch Unlimited Blade Works next. Much better show.

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RuffledPeanuts
11/17/17 10:50:37 PM
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Eevee-Trainer posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
Watch Unlimited Blade Works next. Much better show.

I would agree but I never actually watched the original Stay Night. Skipped it, watched UBW, and then watched Zero (Which was decent).
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Blue_Inigo
11/17/17 10:52:02 PM
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Rin>>> Saber>>>> who cares
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Eevee-Trainer
11/17/17 10:52:06 PM
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RuffledPeanuts posted...
Eevee-Trainer posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
Watch Unlimited Blade Works next. Much better show.

I would agree but I never actually watched the original Stay Night. Skipped it, watched UBW, and then watched Zero (Which was decent).

I originally watched UBW, but then went back to rewatch it but didn't realize there was a regular Fate/Stay Night so after a while I was vaguely confused and ultimately disappointed. UBW is overwhelmingly superior.

Zero was okay but I remember being bored to death by it for some reason or another, but I intend to give it a fair shake around the time I get to Apocrypha.
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Skye Reynolds
11/17/17 10:52:42 PM
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Vortex_of_Hope posted...
I mean you aren't entirely wrong but she is far from the worst character. She does have a decent character in the frame of the franchise as a whole. But yea her route only really exists to force a relationship as hard as possible for little reason..


I'm not knocking her as a character. I'm just saying it's too weird to see a character that I've viewed in multiple interpretations over the course of decades suddenly reduced to, "There is no Han Solo, that was just Ripley's alias."

It's like, nope. Sorry. Can't play that game.
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Spidey5
11/17/17 10:53:11 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
Making King Arthur a girl is why I never gave that show a chance. Like, that's just too weird. I can't say I'm a super fan of the Arthurian legend, but I've seen a couple interpretations over the years and I don't care to have his bearded highness replaced with a big boobied blonde just because Japan wants to fuck literally everything.

Saber is a washboard.
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Vortex_of_Hope
11/17/17 10:56:37 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
Vortex_of_Hope posted...
I mean you aren't entirely wrong but she is far from the worst character. She does have a decent character in the frame of the franchise as a whole. But yea her route only really exists to force a relationship as hard as possible for little reason..


I'm not knocking her as a character. I'm just saying it's too weird to see a character that I've viewed in multiple interpretations over the course of decades suddenly reduced to, "There is no Han Solo, that was just Ripley's alias."

It's like, nope. Sorry. Can't play that game.


She is actually Arthur more or less the round table and stuff still happened in context.
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Eevee-Trainer
11/17/17 10:57:23 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
Eevee-Trainer posted...
Zero was okay but I remember being bored to death by it for some reason or another,

Zero was heavy on plot exposition and world building at the expense of action from what I remember. There were parts that definitely dragged

Ah, I see. I can value such things - I usually prefer slower animes, less action and such - but what really got me into Fate/ were the awesome fights and all that.

Especially Archer vs Shirou and Gilgamesh vs. Shirou.
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RuffledPeanuts
11/17/17 11:04:06 PM
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Eevee-Trainer posted...
RuffledPeanuts posted...
Eevee-Trainer posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
Watch Unlimited Blade Works next. Much better show.

I would agree but I never actually watched the original Stay Night. Skipped it, watched UBW, and then watched Zero (Which was decent).

I originally watched UBW, but then went back to rewatch it but didn't really there was a regular Fate/Stay Night so after a while I was vaguely confused and ultimately disappointed. UBW is overwhelmingly superior.

Zero was okay but I remember being bored to death by it for some reason or another, but I intend to give it a fair shake around the time I get to Apocrypha.

Zero is good in the sense that you're supposed to know the ending so everyone's story has this really sad sense to it and any sense of hope is dashed before they can even start to fight for the Grail.

Outside of that, UBW is definitely the superior show. I preferred not knowing what was going to happen and the twists were great. UBW had the better fights but Zero had my favorite character in Rider.
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Eevee-Trainer
11/17/17 11:06:39 PM
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RuffledPeanuts posted...
Zero had my favorite character in Rider.

Yeah, I recall really liking him.
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lilORANG
11/17/17 11:08:54 PM
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Eevee-Trainer posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
Watch Unlimited Blade Works next. Much better show.

I think that's what i am watching actually. The title screen says "Fate/stay night [unlimited blade works]"
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RuffledPeanuts
11/17/17 11:14:04 PM
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lilORANG posted...
Eevee-Trainer posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
Watch Unlimited Blade Works next. Much better show.

I think that's what i am watching actually. The title screen says "Fate/stay night [unlimited blade works]"

Yeah, that's a different story line from the original anime. The anime was based off of a VN that had 3 different paths. They upped the production value and adapted a different path than the original Stay Night anime. Apparently, UBW is also closer to the source material as well.
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Skye Reynolds
11/18/17 10:58:02 AM
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Vortex_of_Hope posted...
She is actually Arthur more or less the round table and stuff still happened in context.


It doesn't matter. I go back to my comparison of saying that Star Wars was just a story and the real Han Solo was actually Ripley from Alien. It's like, yeah, I know that character a heck of a lot better than I know you and you don't get to erase him.
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GiftedACIII
11/18/17 1:31:33 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
Vortex_of_Hope posted...
She is actually Arthur more or less the round table and stuff still happened in context.


It doesn't matter. I go back to my comparison of saying that Star Wars was just a story and the real Han Solo was actually Ripley from Alien. It's like, yeah, I know that character a heck of a lot better than I know you and you don't get to erase him.


I mean, it's the same thing as people using modern interpretations of Sherlock or people saying historical individual used to be wizards or something or basically every show that uses pop culture like Family Guy and South Park. It's different in their universe
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lilORANG
11/18/17 2:32:15 PM
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I will also say that the opening track for season 2 is great.
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pinky0926
11/18/17 2:33:50 PM
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Fate Zero was the best story wise. Alexander the Great is easily one of the best anime characters of all time.

Unlimited Blade works was really derivative but the animation is basically the best shit I've ever seen in a series.

The rest...meh.
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lilORANG
11/18/17 2:54:39 PM
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got damn, I did not expect Berserker to go down that fast. or for that little girl's eyes to get sliced out. this shit is brutal.
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lilORANG
11/18/17 8:44:19 PM
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Lancer is cool af tbh but is his attack called Gay Bolt?
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Spidey5
11/18/17 8:44:32 PM
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Rika_Furude
11/18/17 8:44:49 PM
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lilORANG
11/18/17 8:45:10 PM
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Spidey5 posted...
Gae bolg

damn boyeee, dat 15 second response time
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DirkDiggles
11/18/17 8:53:03 PM
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Watch Fate/kaleid liner PRISMAILLYA next.
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Axiom
11/18/17 8:54:46 PM
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lilORANG posted...
Eevee-Trainer posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
Watch Unlimited Blade Works next. Much better show.

I think that's what i am watching actually. The title screen says "Fate/stay night [unlimited blade works]"

That one is far better than the one I thought you were watching which was the first night. If you hated the humans in this one then don't even bother watching the other. Shiro was actually much better in UBW than he was in night
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lilORANG
11/18/17 8:57:13 PM
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Axiom posted...
lilORANG posted...
Eevee-Trainer posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
Watch Unlimited Blade Works next. Much better show.

I think that's what i am watching actually. The title screen says "Fate/stay night [unlimited blade works]"

That one is far better than the one I thought you were watching which was the first night. If you hated the humans in this one then don't even bother watching the other. Shiro was actually much better in UBW than he was in night

Season 2 has been way better than one. It's not that I hate the humans, they're just the least interesting part of the story and the first half of season one spent way too much time on them in the high school. It's been non-stop action for the past few episodes and has been really good.

And as I said in the OP, I already really enjoy Apocrypha (at least what's available on Netflix).
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