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Antifar 11/19/17 9:51:34 AM #1:	https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/housekeeper-hotel-sexual-harassment_us_5a0f438ce4b0e97dffed3443 Cecilia was working as a minibar attendant at a Chicago hotel when she knocked on the guests door and announced herself. The mans response was quick and unequivocal: You can come in. When she opened the door, He was at the computer, masturbating, Cecilia recalled. She was overcome with shock and embarrassment. Judging from the satisfied look on the mans face, that was the whole idea. I felt nasty, recalled Cecilia, who asked that her last name and the hotel not be identified. Youd expect that to happen to people in a jail but not in regular work. I felt like crying. It wasnt the only time Cecilia had dealt with extreme forms of sexual harassment in her three decades working in downtown hotels. A male guest once answered her knock by opening the door naked. Just a month and a half ago, a younger colleague confided to Cecilia that a male guest had tried to embrace her while she was in his room. Cecilia escorted the shaken housekeeper to the hotels security team to report the incident. Since the allegations against movie producer Harvey Weinstein were first revealed last month, more and more women have stepped forward with stories of sexual harassment and assault at work. Their bravery in speaking out has toppled powerful mens careers in Hollywood, Silicon Valley and Washington. But much less attention has been paid to the rampant harassment in blue-collar workplaces, particularly the hotel industry. Many of the stories that have hit front pages Weinstein, journalist Mark Halperin, comedian Louis C.K. center on powerful men who preyed on underlings or colleagues in hotel rooms a trend that would surprise no woman whos ever worked as a housekeeper. If famous A-list actresses must deal with unwanted advances in the privacy of a hotel suite, imagine the vulnerability of an immigrant woman cleaning the room alone, for close to minimum wage, plus tips. Frankly, I dont think much of the public understands what housekeepers go through just to clean these rooms and carry out the work, said Maria Elena Durazo, a labor leader with the hospitality union Unite Here. For several years Durazos union has advocated for housekeepers to be given handheld, wireless panic buttons that can alert hotel security when a worker feels threatened a sign of how dire it views the problem of sexual predation in the hotel industry. After working to negotiate the use of panic buttons in their employer contracts, the union is now lobbying city councils to mandate them through legislation so that all workers have access to them, union and non-union alike. But, according to Durazo, the panic buttons only go so far in addressing the more fundamental problem: an imbalance of economic power between perpetrators and their victims, especially when the victims are working in or near poverty. We have to do something to equalize the power so that women really have the ability to speak up, without having to risk their livelihood, she said. That goes for whether youre a housekeeper or a food server or a big-time actor. Last year, Unite Here surveyed roughly 500 of its Chicago area members who work in hotels and casinos as housekeepers and servers, many of them Latino and Asian immigrants. The results were disturbing: 58 percent of hotel workers and 77 percent of casino workers said they had been sexually harassed by a guest. 49 percent of hotel workers said they had experienced a guest answering the door naked or otherwise exposing himself. 56 percent of hotel workers whod reported harassment said they didnt feel safe on the job afterward. 65 percent of casino cocktail servers said a guest had touched or tried to touch them without permission. Nearly 40 percent of casino workers said theyd been pressured for a date or a sexual favor. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:890674157] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote>https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/housekeeper-hotel-sexual-harassment_us_5a0f438ce4b0e97dffed3443 <quote>Cecilia was working as a minibar attendant at a Chicago hotel when she knocked on the guests door and announced herself. The mans response was quick and unequivocal: You can come in. When she opened the door, He was at the computer, masturbating, Cecilia recalled. She was overcome with shock and embarrassment. Judging from the satisfied look on the mans face, that was the whole idea. I felt nasty, recalled Cecilia, who asked that her last name and the hotel not be identified. Youd expect that to happen to people in a jail but not in regular work. I felt like crying. It wasnt the only time Cecilia had dealt with extreme forms of sexual harassment in her three decades working in downtown hotels. A male guest once answered her knock by opening the door naked. Just a month and a half ago, a younger colleague confided to Cecilia that a male guest had tried to embrace her while she was in his room. Cecilia escorted the shaken housekeeper to the hotels security team to report the incident. Since the allegations against movie producer Harvey Weinstein were first revealed last month, more and more women have stepped forward with stories of sexual harassment and assault at work. Their bravery in speaking out has toppled powerful mens careers in Hollywood, Silicon Valley and Washington. But much less attention has been paid to the rampant harassment in blue-collar workplaces, particularly the hotel industry. Many of the stories that have hit front pages Weinstein, journalist Mark Halperin, comedian Louis C.K. center on powerful men who preyed on underlings or colleagues in hotel rooms a trend that would surprise no woman whos ever worked as a housekeeper. If famous A-list actresses must deal with unwanted advances in the privacy of a hotel suite, imagine the vulnerability of an immigrant woman cleaning the room alone, for close to minimum wage, plus tips. Frankly, I dont think much of the public understands what housekeepers go through just to clean these rooms and carry out the work, said Maria Elena Durazo, a labor leader with the hospitality union Unite Here. For several years Durazos union has advocated for housekeepers to be given handheld, wireless panic buttons that can alert hotel security when a worker feels threatened a sign of how dire it views the problem of sexual predation in the hotel industry. After working to negotiate the use of panic buttons in their employer contracts, the union is now lobbying city councils to mandate them through legislation so that all workers have access to them, union and non-union alike. But, according to Durazo, the panic buttons only go so far in addressing the more fundamental problem: an imbalance of economic power between perpetrators and their victims, especially when the victims are working in or near poverty. We have to do something to equalize the power so that women really have the ability to speak up, without having to risk their livelihood, she said. That goes for whether youre a housekeeper or a food server or a big-time actor. Last year, Unite Here surveyed roughly 500 of its Chicago area members who work in hotels and casinos as housekeepers and servers, many of them Latino and Asian immigrants. The results were disturbing: 58 percent of hotel workers and 77 percent of casino workers said they had been sexually harassed by a guest. 49 percent of hotel workers said they had experienced a guest answering the door naked or otherwise exposing himself. 56 percent of hotel workers whod reported harassment said they didnt feel safe on the job afterward. 65 percent of casino cocktail servers said a guest had touched or tried to touch them without permission. Nearly 40 percent of casino workers said theyd been pressured for a date or a sexual favor.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 11/19/17 9:54:31 AM #2:	Im a victim, youre a victim, everyones a victim! --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:890674257] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote>Im a victim, youre a victim, everyones a victim!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CarlGrimes 11/19/17 9:54:55 AM #3:	Staying in a hotel tends to bring out the worst out in people. --- You'll get a funeral if you don't wise up and call me....Carl Poppa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9aM9Ch97U8 <cite>CarlGrimes posted [p:890674271] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote>Staying in a hotel tends to bring out the worst out in people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaBreakfast 11/19/17 9:55:05 AM #4:	The Admiral posted... Im a victim, youre a victim, everyones a victim! You're a fucking gross piece of shit my guy --- http://i.imgur.com/nGZeEqw.png Do you really think you can beat me? <cite>NinjaBreakfast posted [p:890674276] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Im a victim, youre a victim, everyones a victim!</quote> You're a fucking gross piece of shit my guy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 11/19/17 9:55:16 AM #5:	The Admiral posted... Im a victim, youre a victim, everyones a victim! jesus admiral --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:890674280] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Im a victim, youre a victim, everyones a victim!</quote> jesus admiral</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 11/19/17 9:55:59 AM #6:	49 percent of hotel workers said they had experienced a guest answering the door naked or otherwise exposing himself. Wow --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:890674302] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><quote>49 percent of hotel workers said they had experienced a guest answering the door naked or otherwise exposing himself.</quote> Wow</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 11/19/17 9:56:54 AM #7:	Antifar posted... https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/housekeeper-hotel-sexual-harassment_us_5a0f438ce4b0e97dffed3443 Just a month and a half ago, a younger colleague confided to Cecilia that a male guest had tried to embrace her while she was in his room. These fucking assholes. I don't know why it seems impossible for some guys to keep your damn hands to yourself. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:890674319] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/housekeeper-hotel-sexual-harassment_us_5a0f438ce4b0e97dffed3443 <quote>Just a month and a half ago, a younger colleague confided to Cecilia that a male guest had tried to embrace her while she was in his room.</quote></quote> These fucking assholes. I don't know why it seems impossible for some guys to keep your damn hands to yourself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 11/19/17 9:57:44 AM #8:	pinky0926 posted... The Admiral posted... Im a victim, youre a victim, everyones a victim! jesus admiral Nah, getting a little tired of people jumping on the bandwagon for attention over relatively minor stuff like this. And Im not the only one who thinks its unproductive: https://nypost.com/2017/11/17/metoo-has-lumped-trivial-in-with-legitimate-sexual-assault/ --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:890674356] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Im a victim, youre a victim, everyones a victim!</quote> jesus admiral</quote> Nah, getting a little tired of people jumping on the bandwagon for attention over relatively minor stuff like this. And Im not the only one who thinks its unproductive: https://nypost.com/2017/11/17/metoo-has-lumped-trivial-in-with-legitimate-sexual-assault/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fire810 11/19/17 9:59:25 AM #9:	those are massive percentages.i'm surprised there isn't more litigation. --- "This weapon, I am." - Paul Atreides <cite>fire810 posted [p:890674404] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote>those are massive percentages.i'm surprised there isn't more litigation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gp1829 11/19/17 9:59:41 AM #10:	The Admiral posted... pinky0926 posted... The Admiral posted... Im a victim, youre a victim, everyones a victim! jesus admiral Nah, getting a little tired of people jumping on the bandwagon for attention over relatively minor stuff like this. And Im not the only one who thinks its unproductive: https://nypost.com/2017/11/17/metoo-has-lumped-trivial-in-with-legitimate-sexual-assault/ What's minor about it? <cite>gp1829 posted [p:890674414] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Im a victim, youre a victim, everyones a victim!</quote> jesus admiral</quote> Nah, getting a little tired of people jumping on the bandwagon for attention over relatively minor stuff like this. And Im not the only one who thinks its unproductive: https://nypost.com/2017/11/17/metoo-has-lumped-trivial-in-with-legitimate-sexual-assault/</quote> What's minor about it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaBreakfast 11/19/17 9:59:57 AM #11:	Good example itt of admiral immediately trying to derail a topic about a serious issue (that he likely perceives as being 'sjws!!!!') by shitposting --- http://i.imgur.com/nGZeEqw.png Do you really think you can beat me? <cite>NinjaBreakfast posted [p:890674422] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote>Good example itt of admiral immediately trying to derail a topic about a serious issue (that he likely perceives as being 'sjws!!!!') by shitposting</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 11/19/17 10:00:28 AM #12:	The Admiral posted... pinky0926 posted... The Admiral posted... Im a victim, youre a victim, everyones a victim! jesus admiral Nah, getting a little tired of people jumping on the bandwagon for attention over relatively minor stuff like this. And Im not the only one who thinks its unproductive: https://nypost.com/2017/11/17/metoo-has-lumped-trivial-in-with-legitimate-sexual-assault/ "For several years Durazos union has advocated for housekeepers to be given handheld, wireless panic buttons that can alert hotel security when a worker feels threatened" Looks like they jumped on the bandwagon years ago! --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:890674437] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Im a victim, youre a victim, everyones a victim!</quote> jesus admiral</quote> Nah, getting a little tired of people jumping on the bandwagon for attention over relatively minor stuff like this. And Im not the only one who thinks its unproductive: https://nypost.com/2017/11/17/metoo-has-lumped-trivial-in-with-legitimate-sexual-assault/</quote> "For several years Durazos union has advocated for housekeepers to be given handheld, wireless panic buttons that can alert hotel security when a worker feels threatened" Looks like they jumped on the bandwagon years ago!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 11/19/17 10:00:52 AM #13:	NinjaBreakfast posted... Good example itt of admiral immediately trying to derail a topic about a serious issue (that he likely perceives as being 'sjws!!!!') by shitposting Dont know how you make it through your days getting this triggered by everything. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:890674445] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><cite>NinjaBreakfast posted...</cite> <quote>Good example itt of admiral immediately trying to derail a topic about a serious issue (that he likely perceives as being 'sjws!!!!') by shitposting</quote> Dont know how you make it through your days getting this triggered by everything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaBreakfast 11/19/17 10:01:16 AM #14:	man, great stock response. --- http://i.imgur.com/nGZeEqw.png Do you really think you can beat me? <cite>NinjaBreakfast posted [p:890674453] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote>man, great stock response.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 11/19/17 10:02:18 AM #15:	pinky0926 posted... The Admiral posted... pinky0926 posted... The Admiral posted... Im a victim, youre a victim, everyones a victim! jesus admiral Nah, getting a little tired of people jumping on the bandwagon for attention over relatively minor stuff like this. And Im not the only one who thinks its unproductive: https://nypost.com/2017/11/17/metoo-has-lumped-trivial-in-with-legitimate-sexual-assault/ "For several years Durazos union has advocated for housekeepers to be given handheld, wireless panic buttons that can alert hotel security when a worker feels threatened" Looks like they jumped on the bandwagon years ago! I didnt realize this HuffPo story riding the coattails of the sexual assault witch hunt was published years ago. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:890674496] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Im a victim, youre a victim, everyones a victim!</quote> jesus admiral</quote> Nah, getting a little tired of people jumping on the bandwagon for attention over relatively minor stuff like this. And Im not the only one who thinks its unproductive: https://nypost.com/2017/11/17/metoo-has-lumped-trivial-in-with-legitimate-sexual-assault/</quote> "For several years Durazos union has advocated for housekeepers to be given handheld, wireless panic buttons that can alert hotel security when a worker feels threatened" Looks like they jumped on the bandwagon years ago!</quote> I didnt realize this HuffPo story riding the coattails of the sexual assault witch hunt was published years ago.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacDaMurderer 11/19/17 10:03:54 AM #16:	The Admiral posted some dumbass shit... Seriously why? --- @macdamurderer GT: Mac Da Murderer <cite>MacDaMurderer posted [p:890674544] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted some dumbass shit...</cite> Seriously why?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 11/19/17 10:04:33 AM #17:	It's kinda funny in a cringe sort of way how Addy tries to derail topics like this for fun Then the humor drains away when you realize he's a grown man and he does this pretty much all day every day. --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:890674569] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote>It's kinda funny in a cringe sort of way how Addy tries to derail topics like this for fun Then the humor drains away when you realize he's a grown man and he does this pretty much all day every day.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 11/19/17 10:05:45 AM #18:	The Admiral posted... pinky0926 posted... The Admiral posted... pinky0926 posted... The Admiral posted... Im a victim, youre a victim, everyones a victim! jesus admiral Nah, getting a little tired of people jumping on the bandwagon for attention over relatively minor stuff like this. And Im not the only one who thinks its unproductive: https://nypost.com/2017/11/17/metoo-has-lumped-trivial-in-with-legitimate-sexual-assault/ "For several years Durazos union has advocated for housekeepers to be given handheld, wireless panic buttons that can alert hotel security when a worker feels threatened" Looks like they jumped on the bandwagon years ago! I didnt realize this story riding the coattails of the sexual assault witch hunt was published years ago. Did you realise that the figures quoted in this story were a year prior to the "sexual assault witch hunt"? What are you actually mad about here. This is a real problem that has gone widely underreported, but thanks to the "sexual assault witch hunt" it's gaining exposure and credibility. What could possibly be your issue with that? Are you just mad that the huffpo is writing stuff that is unpleasant to think about? --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:890674619] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Im a victim, youre a victim, everyones a victim!</quote> jesus admiral</quote> Nah, getting a little tired of people jumping on the bandwagon for attention over relatively minor stuff like this. And Im not the only one who thinks its unproductive: https://nypost.com/2017/11/17/metoo-has-lumped-trivial-in-with-legitimate-sexual-assault/</quote> "For several years Durazos union has advocated for housekeepers to be given handheld, wireless panic buttons that can alert hotel security when a worker feels threatened" Looks like they jumped on the bandwagon years ago!</quote> I didnt realize this story riding the coattails of the sexual assault witch hunt was published years ago.</quote> Did you realise that the figures quoted in this story were a year prior to the "sexual assault witch hunt"? What are you actually mad about here. This is a real problem that has gone widely underreported, but thanks to the "sexual assault witch hunt" it's gaining exposure and credibility. What could possibly be your issue with that? Are you just mad that the huffpo is writing stuff that is unpleasant to think about?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 11/19/17 10:06:14 AM #19:	So a man exposing himself while he's masturbating is just another day for Admiral. No big deal. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:890674631] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote>So a man exposing himself while he's masturbating is just another day for Admiral. No big deal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 11/19/17 10:07:05 AM #20:	Getting really sick of loaded articles like this. Nothing but bitter passive-aggression and preying on people's emotions with anecdotes involving buzzword groups. If you give any attention to what they're doing, you get attacked as being unsympathetic to the individuals in the story. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:890674653] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote>Getting really sick of loaded articles like this. Nothing but bitter passive-aggression and preying on people's emotions with anecdotes involving buzzword groups. If you give any attention to what they're doing, you get attacked as being unsympathetic to the individuals in the story.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaBreakfast 11/19/17 10:08:02 AM #21:	Doom_Art posted... It's kinda funny in a cringe sort of way how Addy tries to derail topics like this for fun Then the humor drains away when you realize he's a grown man and he does this pretty much all day every day. no dude he actually has a team of interns at his 8 figure paying job doing this for him while he sleeps with supermodels and closes deals --- http://i.imgur.com/nGZeEqw.png Do you really think you can beat me? <cite>NinjaBreakfast posted [p:890674692] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>It's kinda funny in a cringe sort of way how Addy tries to derail topics like this for fun Then the humor drains away when you realize he's a grown man and he does this pretty much all day every day.</quote> no dude he actually has a team of interns at his 8 figure paying job doing this for him while he sleeps with supermodels and closes deals</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 11/19/17 10:09:12 AM #22:	weapon_d00d816 posted... Getting really sick of loaded articles like this. Nothing but bitter passive-aggression and preying on people's emotions with anecdotes involving buzzword groups. If you give any attention to what they're doing, you get attacked as being unsympathetic to the individuals in the story. wat --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:890674734] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote>Getting really sick of loaded articles like this. Nothing but bitter passive-aggression and preying on people's emotions with anecdotes involving buzzword groups. If you give any attention to what they're doing, you get attacked as being unsympathetic to the individuals in the story.</quote> wat</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 11/19/17 10:10:42 AM #23:	Smashingpmkns posted... So a man exposing himself while he's masturbating is just another day for Admiral. No big deal. It is, actually. I have to take the NYC subway to work and have had the misfortune of being on cars with homeless people masturbating nearly half a dozen times. Where is my victim article in HuffPo? --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:890674783] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote>So a man exposing himself while he's masturbating is just another day for Admiral. No big deal.</quote> It is, actually. I have to take the NYC subway to work and have had the misfortune of being on cars with homeless people masturbating nearly half a dozen times. Where is my victim article in HuffPo?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 11/19/17 10:11:11 AM #24:	The Admiral posted... Smashingpmkns posted... So a man exposing himself while he's masturbating is just another day for Admiral. No big deal. It is, actually. I have to take the NYC subway to work and have had the misfortune of being on cars with homeless people masturbating nearly half a dozen times. Where is my victim article in HuffPo? I know this probably sounds like some wild, liberal hippie new age bullshit but hear me out for a second - I think it's fair enough that people should not be sexually assaulted or harrassed while they're trying to work, but if that does happen they should have ways to protect themselves and litigate against the culprit. I think maybe this sexual assault conversation will help the housekeepers union pass legislation to assist with this. I think maybe, "toughen up sweetheart" is not really how we should respond to things like this, when really all people are asking is that they can be safe and they can have tools to protect themselves if necessary. Again I understand that I'm a wacky liberal but it doesn't seem too unreasonable to me that nobody should have to tolerate this bullshit. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:890674792] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote>So a man exposing himself while he's masturbating is just another day for Admiral. No big deal.</quote> It is, actually. I have to take the NYC subway to work and have had the misfortune of being on cars with homeless people masturbating nearly half a dozen times. Where is my victim article in HuffPo?</quote> I know this probably sounds like some wild, liberal hippie new age bullshit but hear me out for a second - I think it's fair enough that people should not be sexually assaulted or harrassed while they're trying to work, but if that does happen they should have ways to protect themselves and litigate against the culprit. I think maybe this sexual assault conversation will help the housekeepers union pass legislation to assist with this. I think maybe, "toughen up sweetheart" is not really how we should respond to things like this, when really all people are asking is that they can be safe and they can have tools to protect themselves if necessary. Again I understand that I'm a wacky liberal but it doesn't seem too unreasonable to me that nobody should have to tolerate this bullshit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 11/19/17 10:14:29 AM #25:	The Admiral posted... Smashingpmkns posted... So a man exposing himself while he's masturbating is just another day for Admiral. No big deal. It is, actually. I have to take the NYC subway to work and have had the misfortune of being on cars with homeless people masturbating nearly half a dozen times. Where is my victim article in HuffPo? I would say the situations are pretty different. An employee shouldn't be subjected to being sexually harassed by colleagues or patrons. A random crazy homeless guy jerking it in the subway isn't the same situation at all. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:890674906] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote> So a man exposing himself while he's masturbating is just another day for Admiral. No big deal.</quote> It is, actually. I have to take the NYC subway to work and have had the misfortune of being on cars with homeless people masturbating nearly half a dozen times. Where is my victim article in HuffPo?</quote> I would say the situations are pretty different. An employee shouldn't be subjected to being sexually harassed by colleagues or patrons. A random crazy homeless guy jerking it in the subway isn't the same situation at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turtlebread 11/19/17 10:16:11 AM #26:	what if your job is to ride the subway --- http://i.imgur.com/yCW15Zn.jpg <cite>Turtlebread posted [p:890674965] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote>what if your job is to ride the subway</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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prettyprincess 11/19/17 10:24:30 AM #28:	to be bothered that this is being shared is pure buffoonery --- And in an infinite regress, tell me, why is the pain of birth lighter borne than the pain of death? <cite>prettyprincess posted [p:890675287] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote>to be bothered that this is being shared is pure buffoonery</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coolboy11 11/19/17 10:28:00 AM #29:	a lot of people are genuinely gross to workers in any type of service industry, being a woman or male who is smaller in stature opens you open to even more abuse unfortaunently. --- Sigs are boring <cite>coolboy11 posted [p:890675424] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote>a lot of people are genuinely gross to workers in any type of service industry, being a woman or male who is smaller in stature opens you open to even more abuse unfortaunently.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 11/19/17 10:30:03 AM #30:	lolololol, y'all gotta stop responding to that guy. but I'm not shocked. I'm glad so many are speaking out against rape culture. hide your wife, hide your kids. hide the gerbils. nobody's safe. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:890675498] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote>lolololol, y'all gotta stop responding to that guy. but I'm not shocked. I'm glad so many are speaking out against rape culture. hide your wife, hide your kids. hide the gerbils. nobody's safe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 11/19/17 10:30:09 AM #31:	Doom_Art posted... weapon_d00d816 posted... Getting really sick of loaded articles like this. Nothing but bitter passive-aggression and preying on people's emotions with anecdotes involving buzzword groups. If you give any attention to what they're doing, you get attacked as being unsympathetic to the individuals in the story. wat Stuff like imagine the vulnerability of an immigrant woman cleaning the room alone, for close to minimum wage, plus tips. Last year, Unite Here surveyed roughly 500 of its Chicago area members who work in hotels and casinos as housekeepers and servers, many of them Latino and Asian immigrants. The results were disturbing: Like what the fuck does that have to do with anything? It literally serves no relevant purpose other than appealing to the sympathies of people who hold these groups in special regard in all situations. And the article uses loaded language that tries to paint it as a David and Goliath situation where "brave women" are toppling the careers of "powerful men". Liberals just don't get that stuff like this is cringy as fuck to everyone else. It's these weird in-group thought processes that they expect their audience to share. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:890675501] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote>Getting really sick of loaded articles like this. Nothing but bitter passive-aggression and preying on people's emotions with anecdotes involving buzzword groups. If you give any attention to what they're doing, you get attacked as being unsympathetic to the individuals in the story.</quote> wat</quote> Stuff like <quote>imagine the vulnerability of an immigrant woman cleaning the room alone, for close to minimum wage, plus tips.</quote> <quote>Last year, Unite Here surveyed roughly 500 of its Chicago area members who work in hotels and casinos as housekeepers and servers, many of them Latino and Asian immigrants. The results were disturbing:</quote> Like what the fuck does that have to do with anything? It literally serves no relevant purpose other than appealing to the sympathies of people who hold these groups in special regard in all situations. And the article uses loaded language that tries to paint it as a David and Goliath situation where "brave women" are toppling the careers of "powerful men". Liberals just don't get that stuff like this is cringy as fuck to everyone else. It's these weird in-group thought processes that they expect their audience to share.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 11/19/17 10:31:04 AM #32:	RickyTheBAWSE posted... I'm glad so many are speaking out against rape culture --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:890675528] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted...</cite> <quote>I'm glad so many are speaking out against rape culture</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaBreakfast 11/19/17 10:32:44 AM #33:	weapon_d00d816 posted... Like what the fuck does that have to do with anything? It literally serves no relevant purpose other than appealing to the sympathies of people who hold these groups in special regard in all situations. lol honestly what the fuck is wrong with you people --- http://i.imgur.com/nGZeEqw.png Do you really think you can beat me? <cite>NinjaBreakfast posted [p:890675596] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote>Like what the fuck does that have to do with anything? It literally serves no relevant purpose other than appealing to the sympathies of people who hold these groups in special regard in all situations. </quote> lol honestly what the fuck is wrong with you people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 11/19/17 10:33:44 AM #34:	NinjaBreakfast posted... weapon_d00d816 posted... Like what the fuck does that have to do with anything? It literally serves no relevant purpose other than appealing to the sympathies of people who hold these groups in special regard in all situations. lol honestly what the fuck is wrong with you people This is a clickbait article that's meant to rile up people like you, and it's worked amazingly. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:890675630] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><cite>NinjaBreakfast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote>Like what the fuck does that have to do with anything? It literally serves no relevant purpose other than appealing to the sympathies of people who hold these groups in special regard in all situations. </quote> lol honestly what the fuck is wrong with you people</quote> This is a clickbait article that's meant to rile up people like you, and it's worked amazingly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 11/19/17 10:36:10 AM #35:	NinjaBreakfast posted... weapon_d00d816 posted... Like what the fuck does that have to do with anything? It literally serves no relevant purpose other than appealing to the sympathies of people who hold these groups in special regard in all situations. lol honestly what the fuck is wrong with you people As was foretold... weapon_d00d816 posted... If you give any attention to what they're doing, you get attacked as being unsympathetic to the individuals in the story. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:890675725] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><cite>NinjaBreakfast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote>Like what the fuck does that have to do with anything? It literally serves no relevant purpose other than appealing to the sympathies of people who hold these groups in special regard in all situations. </quote> lol honestly what the fuck is wrong with you people</quote> As was foretold... <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote>If you give any attention to what they're doing, you get attacked as being unsympathetic to the individuals in the story.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaBreakfast 11/19/17 10:37:16 AM #36:	The Admiral posted... This is a clickbait article that's meant to rile up people like you, and it's worked amazingly. lol yeah dude it's me that's 'riled up' --- http://i.imgur.com/nGZeEqw.png Do you really think you can beat me? <cite>NinjaBreakfast posted [p:890675769] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>This is a clickbait article that's meant to rile up people like you, and it's worked amazingly. </quote> lol yeah dude it's me that's 'riled up'</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gp1829 11/19/17 10:37:53 AM #37:	The Admiral posted... NinjaBreakfast posted... weapon_d00d816 posted... Like what the fuck does that have to do with anything? It literally serves no relevant purpose other than appealing to the sympathies of people who hold these groups in special regard in all situations. lol honestly what the fuck is wrong with you people This is a clickbait article that's meant to rile up people like you, and it's worked amazingly. How is it clickbait? <cite>gp1829 posted [p:890675794] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NinjaBreakfast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote>Like what the fuck does that have to do with anything? It literally serves no relevant purpose other than appealing to the sympathies of people who hold these groups in special regard in all situations. </quote> lol honestly what the fuck is wrong with you people</quote> This is a clickbait article that's meant to rile up people like you, and it's worked amazingly.</quote> How is it clickbait?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 11/19/17 10:38:29 AM #38:	You kinda are brushing aside the bulk of this story for a few sentences you have issue with. Your issues with this and Admirals issues with it are pretty damn different though lol --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:890675820] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote>You kinda are brushing aside the bulk of this story for a few sentences you have issue with. Your issues with this and Admirals issues with it are pretty damn different though lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DemonBuffet 11/19/17 10:38:39 AM #39:	Lmao. Here I thought Addy was a reasonable and intelligent conservative on CE. He belittles sexual harassment experienced by hotel workers and tries to justify his first comment by labeling everyone who disagrees as sensetive. Buddy, in LE, we see a lot of shit in our line of work. And I agree, society today has gone over-the-top of what is offensive. But sexual harassment in the form described in the OP should never be made into a joke. I thought you of all folks here would understand that. --- Trololol <cite>DemonBuffet posted [p:890675828] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote>Lmao. Here I thought Addy was a reasonable and intelligent conservative on CE. He belittles sexual harassment experienced by hotel workers and tries to justify his first comment by labeling everyone who disagrees as sensetive. Buddy, in LE, we see a lot of shit in our line of work. And I agree, society today has gone over-the-top of what is offensive. But sexual harassment in the form described in the OP should never be made into a joke. I thought you of all folks here would understand that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 11/19/17 10:40:09 AM #40:	gp1829 posted... The Admiral posted... NinjaBreakfast posted... weapon_d00d816 posted... Like what the fuck does that have to do with anything? It literally serves no relevant purpose other than appealing to the sympathies of people who hold these groups in special regard in all situations. lol honestly what the fuck is wrong with you people This is a clickbait article that's meant to rile up people like you, and it's worked amazingly. How is it clickbait? Read the story carefully. In 30 years of being a housekeeper, this woman walked in on a guy beating off once and saw another guy naked once. The only other experience she describes is some story from a friend. This is not an "epidemic" if you have to deal with a pervert every other decade. If you can make it through a job for 30 years with this being the most egregious stuff you have to deal with, consider yourself incredibly privileged. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:890675872] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><cite>gp1829 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NinjaBreakfast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote>Like what the fuck does that have to do with anything? It literally serves no relevant purpose other than appealing to the sympathies of people who hold these groups in special regard in all situations. </quote> lol honestly what the fuck is wrong with you people</quote> This is a clickbait article that's meant to rile up people like you, and it's worked amazingly.</quote> How is it clickbait?</quote> Read the story carefully. In 30 years of being a housekeeper, this woman walked in on a guy beating off once and saw another guy naked once. The only other experience she describes is some story from a friend. This is not an "epidemic" if you have to deal with a pervert every other decade. If you can make it through a job for 30 years with this being the most egregious stuff you have to deal with, consider yourself incredibly privileged.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 11/19/17 10:41:57 AM #41:	why is admiral so dumb? --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:890675943] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote>why is admiral so dumb?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 11/19/17 10:43:00 AM #42:	DemonBuffet posted... Lmao. Here I thought Addy was a reasonable and intelligent conservative on CE. ??? --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:890675983] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><cite>DemonBuffet posted...</cite> <quote>Lmao. Here I thought Addy was a reasonable and intelligent conservative on CE.</quote> ???</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 11/19/17 10:49:06 AM #43:	The Admiral posted... gp1829 posted... The Admiral posted... NinjaBreakfast posted... weapon_d00d816 posted... Like what the fuck does that have to do with anything? It literally serves no relevant purpose other than appealing to the sympathies of people who hold these groups in special regard in all situations. lol honestly what the fuck is wrong with you people This is a clickbait article that's meant to rile up people like you, and it's worked amazingly. How is it clickbait? Read the story carefully. In 30 years of being a housekeeper, this woman walked in on a guy beating off once and saw another guy naked once. The only other experience she describes is some story from a friend. This is not an "epidemic" if you have to deal with a pervert every other decade. If you can make it through a job for 30 years with this being the most egregious stuff you have to deal with, consider yourself incredibly privileged. Antifar posted... 58 percent of hotel workers and 77 percent of casino workers said they had been sexually harassed by a guest. 49 percent of hotel workers said they had experienced a guest answering the door naked or otherwise exposing himself. 56 percent of hotel workers whod reported harassment said they didnt feel safe on the job afterward. 65 percent of casino cocktail servers said a guest had touched or tried to touch them without permission. Nearly 40 percent of casino workers said theyd been pressured for a date or a sexual favor. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:890676240] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gp1829 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>NinjaBreakfast posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote> Like what the fuck does that have to do with anything? It literally serves no relevant purpose other than appealing to the sympathies of people who hold these groups in special regard in all situations. </quote> lol honestly what the fuck is wrong with you people </quote> This is a clickbait article that's meant to rile up people like you, and it's worked amazingly. </quote> How is it clickbait?</quote> Read the story carefully. In 30 years of being a housekeeper, this woman walked in on a guy beating off once and saw another guy naked once. The only other experience she describes is some story from a friend. This is not an "epidemic" if you have to deal with a pervert every other decade. If you can make it through a job for 30 years with this being the most egregious stuff you have to deal with, consider yourself incredibly privileged.</quote> <cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>58 percent of hotel workers and 77 percent of casino workers said they had been sexually harassed by a guest. 49 percent of hotel workers said they had experienced a guest answering the door naked or otherwise exposing himself. 56 percent of hotel workers whod reported harassment said they didnt feel safe on the job afterward. 65 percent of casino cocktail servers said a guest had touched or tried to touch them without permission. Nearly 40 percent of casino workers said theyd been pressured for a date or a sexual favor. </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
littlebro07 11/19/17 10:49:53 AM #44:	The Admiral posted... Read the story carefully. In 30 years of being a housekeeper, this woman walked in on a guy beating off once and saw another guy naked once. The only other experience she describes is some story from a friend. This is not an "epidemic" if you have to deal with a pervert every other decade. Yeah, it's definitely not possible that she didn't mention any other incidents. And she and her friend are obviously the only housekeepers to ever have this happen to them. --- http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb289/volcaitlin/gifs/dancning.gif <cite>littlebro07 posted [p:890676272] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Read the story carefully. In 30 years of being a housekeeper, this woman walked in on a guy beating off once and saw another guy naked once. The only other experience she describes is some story from a friend. This is not an "epidemic" if you have to deal with a pervert every other decade. </quote> Yeah, it's definitely not possible that she didn't mention any other incidents. And she and her friend are obviously the only housekeepers to ever have this happen to them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FreshOverlord 11/19/17 10:50:36 AM #45:	People are so weak these days --- F.R.E.S.H <cite>FreshOverlord posted [p:890676291] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote>People are so weak these days</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Butterfiles 11/19/17 10:52:45 AM #46:	DemonBuffet posted... Lmao. Here I thought Addy was a reasonable and intelligent conservative on CE. I am absolutely flabbergasted as to why you would think that. --- http://www.last.fm/user/PigBun 56k warning <cite>Butterfiles posted [p:890676370] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><cite>DemonBuffet posted...</cite> <quote>Lmao. Here I thought Addy was a reasonable and intelligent conservative on CE. </quote> I am absolutely flabbergasted as to why you would think that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 11/19/17 10:58:37 AM #47:	The Admiral posted... NinjaBreakfast posted... weapon_d00d816 posted... Like what the fuck does that have to do with anything? It literally serves no relevant purpose other than appealing to the sympathies of people who hold these groups in special regard in all situations. lol honestly what the fuck is wrong with you people This is a clickbait article that's meant to rile up people like you, and it's worked amazingly. Yet, black teens getting in fights at hischool is real news to you. --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:890676567] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NinjaBreakfast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote>Like what the fuck does that have to do with anything? It literally serves no relevant purpose other than appealing to the sympathies of people who hold these groups in special regard in all situations. </quote> lol honestly what the fuck is wrong with you people</quote> This is a clickbait article that's meant to rile up people like you, and it's worked amazingly.</quote> Yet, black teens getting in fights at hischool is real news to you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 11/19/17 11:01:03 AM #48:	An ex girlfriend used to work at one and had plenty of similar tales to tell sadly --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:890676654] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote>An ex girlfriend used to work at one and had plenty of similar tales to tell sadly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 11/19/17 11:01:42 AM #49:	Butterfiles posted... DemonBuffet posted... Lmao. Here I thought Addy was a reasonable and intelligent conservative on CE. I am absolutely flabbergasted as to why you would think that. <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:890676685] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote><cite>Butterfiles posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DemonBuffet posted...</cite> <quote>Lmao. Here I thought Addy was a reasonable and intelligent conservative on CE. </quote> I am absolutely flabbergasted as to why you would think that.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prettyprincess 11/19/17 11:06:06 AM #50:	it's cartoonish to complain about clickbait/emotional manipulation while also presenting the idea that seeing these experiences being shared is more bothersome to you than seeing subway masturbation --- And in an infinite regress, tell me, why is the pain of birth lighter borne than the pain of death? <cite>prettyprincess posted [p:890676846] in "What... [t:76008095]...</cite> <quote>it's cartoonish to complain about clickbait/emotional manipulation while also presenting the idea that seeing these experiences being shared is more bothersome to you than seeing subway masturbation</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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