Board 8 > So uh, Ace Attorney Investigations 1

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Not really feeling it yet

I'm in the middle of case 2 and so far it has been very uneventful and kinda a slog to get through. I remember Justice for All and Apollo Justice, the two weakest games in the series, with much fonder memories than this at their respective stages in the game.

Don't get me wrong. I like the concept and Miles Edgeworth is my favorite character in the series but the two cases so far have been predictable and the stakes feel less than even 3-2's first half. Therefore I feel like I'm playing the game for the sake of completing it rather than having fun like I did with the mainline AA games.

God forbid the cases get worse than the first two though so I'm hoping it gets much better and eventually appreciate the game.

I really do hope I can beat this game by December 1st. Because 1) I'm really looking forward to playing AAI2 and 2) Xenoblade Chronicles 2's release will most definitely kill my AAI1 playthrough and I don't think I will have enough motivation to continue on with it after coming from a long break.

I feel like the only way you could worsen the experience of playing a game you're already not into is by setting a deadline to complete it.
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I have core issues with aai1 but you have to think of case 2 as like 1-2 in the original game. that game doesn't really get going until case 3.
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transcience posted...

I have core issues with aai1 but you have to think of case 2 as like 1-2 in the original game. that game doesn't really get going until case 3.

also this
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I wasn't really feeling it either. I'd like to say it gets better but when I try to remember what the game is like I ended up remembering AAI2 instead.
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transcience posted...

I have core issues with aai1 but you have to think of case 2 as like 1-2 in the original game. that game doesn't really get going until case 3.

This makes me feel better about continuing the game.

In hindsight, I should have just played this back in the days when I played AA1-3. It is kinda hard coming to this after playing SoJ earlier this year.

Rushing yourself is bad.

AAI doesn't really gain it's steam until the fourth case though. I saw right through most of the third one.

The fifth case is probably longer than the other four combined, but personally I liked it.

AAI2 is almost completely superior to AAI though, despite two horribly annoying characters.
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AAI is pretty boring, all the way through.
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it's actually not very good. lang and kay are good characters though.

The game doesn't really pick up, it's solid overall, it's hard to consider any case "the best" in this game
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I also got bored with AAI.

It's really easy for me to pick out the best case in AAI. It's 4.
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kevwaffles posted...

It's really easy for me to pick out the best case in AAI. It's 4.

accurate

AAI1 is one of the weakest games in the series. It's probably only better than AJ, but I still liked it. The game doesn't really start finding its footing until case 3, but your mileage may vary on how good that case actually is. I really like it, but most people don't.
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"one of the weakest" put it in the same tier as AJ and it's really not fair
AJ is clearly the worst
And let's face it, JFA wasn't that amazing either (besides the final case obviously)

It's still very solid, and AJ...sucked
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It's actually pretty fair, but I like AJ better than most, too. AAI is better but not by a large margin.

JFA's a lot better than either of those games.
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I don't get why 2-2 gets sold short so much. I guess people didn't like the twist with the culprit, but they've done goofier shit in much more well regarded cases.
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I liked 2-2
It's just that 2-3 sucked and 2-1 was just a intro, and having 4 cases with half of them are bad is why I consider JFA weak
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2-3 is also not that bad.
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I liked 2-2. But 2-1 is the worst intro in the series and 2-3 is the worst case in the series.

2-3 is certainly better on repeated playthroughs. 2-2 has some logical stuff that doesn't quite make sense. I can't remember it off the top of my head, but there's always a part of the trial that bugs me.

2-1 is really the bad case in JFA that doesn't get enough criticism. Even as a tutorial case, that case is pretty bad.

I think most people agree 2-1 isn't very good unless you're one of those weirdos (hey SSBM Guy) who likes Wellington. There just isn't much to say about it.

Phoenix is great in 2-1 despite the amnesia though.
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2-1 underrated case imo
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Wellington is not great, but he's still not the worst character in 2-1...!
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I can't remember hating any of 2's cases. Granted, I can't remember 2-1.

And 2-4 is one of my favorite cases in the series, so I can't hate 2!
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Axl_Rose_85 posted...

Not really feeling it yet

You're correct

Wait until AAI2

AA1 gets better as it goes on, I think. Well, not "better" but it's easier to appreciate after leaning all the earlier cases were connected imo.
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I like case 2 in this game. 3 is rough, and that's with introduction of Kay. Not having a good villain is pretty serious in this series.
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Yeah, AAI1 almost feels like a prototype for AAI2. The first game was them trying to figure out what they wanted to do with this new style, and the second game was them putting it all together.
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I really liked AAI (aside from case 3 which is a bit of a mess); I'm always surprised Board 8 is down on it. On the site I discuss AA most it's one of the more beloved games in the series! I think it comes down to really enjoying Edgeworth as a character and the structure of his games is better than the Phoenix games, even if the writing itself isn't (and to be clear, the writing is more important).

AAI2's more ambitious but also a bit of a tangled mess at points.

StealThisSheen posted...

I can't remember hating any of 2's cases. Granted, I can't remember 2-1.

2-1 is one of the weaker tutorial cases (probably the weakest, and I speak as someone who kinda likes Wellington) but IMO this hardly matters, the difference between those cases isn't really enough to be a dealbreaker for me.
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LeonhartFour posted...

There just isn't much to say about it.

bananas?
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we as a board really liked AAI back in 09. I think it was because it got the bad taste of AA4 out of our mouth? back then our expectations hadn't been pulled out of the gutter yet.

AAI has strong points, particularly its cohesion. it's just that it's the least memorable game and the easiest to dump on in hindsight.

anyway, keep going. the game's biggest mechanic and character(s) haven't even been introduced yet. the 1-2 comparison is pretty apt.
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Don't turn this into too much of an AAI discussion topic, let him play the game

I think AAI is a very steady game. It never goes too low, but it never goes too high at the same time. I don't dislike any of its cases (although to be fair, I probably dislike maybe 3 cases at most in the entire series; I'm a relatively easy person to please) and I think the game is worth playing. It's just the AA standard is very high.
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I do really need to get back to replaying the games and doing the case ranking I wanted to do

I still have to replay AAI2 and AA4

just wait a few days and get AJ HD
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Why does the board hate AA4 again? It is about equal on footing with JFA (which had two of the worst cases in the entire series in 2-1 and 2-3). AAI1 right now is below either of them though.

3 > 6 > 1 > 5 > 2 >= 4

AA2 gets by because I have a soft spot for 2-2 and 2-4 is a good case (not nearly as hot on it as the rest of the board though). AA4 has a fantastic opening case, two average cases in the middle and an above average final case.
Which makes JFA and AJ the two worst games in the mainline series by quite a margin.

Axl_Rose_85 posted...

AA4 has a fantastic opening case, two average cases in the middle and an above average final case.

Agreed on the fantastic opening case, 4-1 is outstanding. I'd call the middle two well below average and the final case flat out abysmal, though.
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Axl_Rose_85 posted...

Why does the board hate AA4 again?

Because it's bad

I hope you love looking at a middle-aged man's pit stains.

Also, Hobonix who now with AA5 and 6, feels like a fever dream.
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Case 2 beated

And case 3 looks interesting so far.

Axl_Rose_85 posted...

Why does the board hate AA4 again? It is about equal on footing with JFA (which had two of the worst cases in the entire series in 2-1 and 2-3)

Probably because AJ has the actual two worst cases in the series. Three if you count 4-0 as its own thing.

I mean, I like 4-1 a lot (maybe my favorite opening case other than AAI2's opener) and there are parts of 4-4 I really like (and there are parts of 4-4 I really don't like), so I'm probably kinder to AJ than most are. I wouldn't say it's a bad game since it does have some legitimately good moments at times, but it's a horribly uneven performance.
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LeonhartFour posted...

maybe my favorite opening case other than AAI2's opener

Wow. Really. Better than even 3-1? The legit best opening case in the series?

AAI2 hype is through the roof.

Also, I'm liking AAI1's case 3 so far. It is definitely keeping me more interested than the first 2 which were probably 2-1 and 2-3 levels of bad.

e2-1 is a legit case unlike pretty much every other opener in the series. it's real good.

I might put 4-1 over it on the right day. 3-1 isn't close.
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4-3 is 2-3 but worse in every way. The only real flaw of 2-3 is the absurd murder. The characters could be off-putting too, but it's really only Regina that bothers me and even she gets better around the end. Meanwhile, 4-3 is nonsensical, tedious, and pretty slow. The secrets surrounding Lamiroir and Machi are good, but end up amounting to nothing. Daryan's really the only shining spot.

2-1 is basically an improved 1-1 except that it isn't literally the first case of the series. It's a nice, simple case that is really short. It's kinda hard for me to wrap my head around 2-1 being actively bad. It's, at worst, a whatever case.
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Yeah, I like E1-3 a lot, probably more than most around here do. It's a fun case, and I love the theme park setting.
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LeonhartFour posted...

I mean, I like 4-1 a lot (maybe my favorite opening case other than AAI2's opener)

transcience posted...

e2-1 is a legit case unlike pretty much every other opener in the series. it's real good.

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