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WastelandCowboy 11/21/17 5:16:19 PM #1: |
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/21/565682679/fcc-unveils-plan-to-repeal-net-neutrality-rules
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helIy 11/21/17 5:19:16 PM #2: |
WastelandCowboy posted...
his plan called "The Restoring Internet Freedom Order" it's always opposite day at the FCC, it seems --- "Dogs smell like they've had too much fun and need a bath Cats smell like espionage" - Mead ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WastelandCowboy 11/21/17 5:22:37 PM #3: |
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Lokarin 11/21/17 5:28:29 PM #4: |
How do we know that the proposed RIFO isn't a good thing, and that -say- Google and other competitors to Comcast aren't using the buzz word effect of Net Neutrality to shut down actual Net Neutrality... kinda like the internet equivalent of the NRA.
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DarkKirby2500 11/21/17 5:36:59 PM #5: |
You know what I don't understand, removing net neutrality literally only benefits the ISPs, and nobody else, including all other corporations, who are adamantly against removing net neutrality for obvious reasons, because if net neutrality was lifted, the ISPs would charge them through the roof, that being said, why are they pushing the removal of net neutrality so hard when it's in the interests of a few corporations, Verizon and other ISPs, against every other corporation that would take a loss from it? What exactly has Verizon promised these people for favoring them so much?
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RCtheWSBC 11/21/17 5:40:02 PM #6: |
DarkKirby2500 posted...
What exactly has Verizon promised these people for favoring them so much? Special interest lobbying is quite effective when 1) it supports a concertrated interest (there are fewer ISPs than American citizens so they can organize their agenda relatively easier) and 2) it is backed by the substantial donations. --- http://i.imgur.com/1yl1fH0.jpg the White-Sounding Black Chick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lokarin 11/21/17 5:42:02 PM #7: |
DarkKirby2500 posted...
You know what I don't understand, removing net neutrality literally only benefits the ISPs, and nobody else, including all other corporations, who are adamantly against removing net neutrality for obvious reasons, because if net neutrality was lifted, the ISPs would charge them through the roof, that being said, why are they pushing the removal of net neutrality so hard when it's in the interests of a few corporations, Verizon and other ISPs, against every other corporation that would take a loss from it? What exactly has Verizon promised these people for favoring them so much? On the flip side, a new ISP can come in and say Google, Gaming, Streaming are all lower cost than our competitors, and you get one free premium porn subscription option per month plus one free pay per view event per month. It just will take a while to load Yahoo and Yahoo affiliates, --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veedrock- 11/21/17 7:29:58 PM #8: |
Lokarin posted...
On the flip side, a new ISP can come in In a perfect world, yes. In reality, no. --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lokarin 11/21/17 7:31:07 PM #9: |
Veedrock- posted...
Lokarin posted...On the flip side, a new ISP can come in Well, it's pretty much just Google or the Government --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veedrock- 11/21/17 7:34:42 PM #10: |
Google gave up on Fiber. Even with all their resources they couldn't make it work, that's how hard it is for new ISPs to set up. If it was easier then I'd agree with deregulation, but it very much is a restricted market akin to basic utilities.
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Lokarin 11/21/17 7:35:26 PM #11: |
It could make a comeback >.>
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BADoglick 11/21/17 7:38:55 PM #12: |
Lokarin posted...
How do we know that the proposed RIFO isn't a good thing, and that -say- Google and other competitors to Comcast aren't using the buzz word effect of Net Neutrality to shut down actual Net Neutrality... kinda like the internet equivalent of the NRA. Exactly right. 'Net neutrality' is a term that's specifically chosen so as to make those opposed seem unreasonable. 'You oppose the patriot act? Are you not a patriot?' or 'how can you oppose the affordable care act, don't you think that all people should be able to access affordable health care'? When in actuality, there's a lot more to it than that, and all three examples are really about government control. The ACA gave the government more control. The Patriot Act gave the government more control. And Net Neutrality is about giving the government control over the web. The arguments in favor of net neutrality is all baseless fear mongering. --- BADoglick to the Max! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veedrock- 11/21/17 7:45:50 PM #13: |
BADoglick posted...
The arguments in favor of net neutrality is all baseless fear mongering. It's not all baseless. In 2014 Netflix had to pay Comcast to end the slowdown of its services on their network. Regulation changes in 2015 put an end to that. --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dikitain 11/21/17 7:54:20 PM #14: |
Lokarin posted...
It could make a comeback >.> Unless countrywide Wi-Fi becomes a thing, no it can't. Half the problem with getting a new ISP is getting the infrastructure in place to deliver Internet Service to people. That is the main reason why utilities end up being monopolies because having 30 different water companies each with their own water pipes offering service in the same area is a logistics nightmare and completely unsustainable. --- I am a senior software engineer. If you see me post here, I am tired of writing TPS reports. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 11/21/17 8:01:01 PM #15: |
Pretty sure the next Democrat will just put new rules in place so... it's a temporary problem.
helIy posted... WastelandCowboy posted...his plan called "The Restoring Internet Freedom Order" Well, they are restoring the old order so it's actually right on the nose. --- (\/)(\/)|-| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dragon504 11/21/17 8:16:03 PM #16: |
BADoglick posted...
The arguments in favor of net neutrality is all baseless fear mongering. Yeah man. Isps have shown themselves to be super competitive with each other and raising speeds by leaps and bounds across the board. They'd never implement caps even though they've said they're just there to make more money for them and totally unnecessary. They haven't been snuffing out any upstart companies/local governments to keep their oligarchy going either. Let's have less regulation for them, since they've been such upstanding companies that fight for the consumer. There's no way they're going to gouge more money out of companies and end users. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lokarin 11/21/17 8:18:37 PM #17: |
Think about it really hard... if your ISP started charging for individual webpages, are you gunna stop consuming?
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