Current Events > I'm really conflicted about The Punisher (spoilers)

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The main cast - Frank, David, Dinah, Russo, and Rawlins - was phenomenal, and it had some really great moments, but it also dragged a lot. Should have been 6 or 7 episodes. Still miles better than Luke Cage and Iron Fist, but I definitely had higher expectations. Not sure where else to place it in the hierarchy.
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Really? I thought it was better than season 1 Daredevil.
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To me the only time it dragged was when Frank had Micro in the chair for the whole episode. Did not like that episode
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I felt it started really strong. I think Jon Bernthal is great as Punisher. Really liked his relationship with Micro was fantastic, I totally bought their friendship. Also, his scenes with Karen were still great.

The rest of it was pretty meh to me tbh. I felt that the other storylines never REALLY came together for me in a satisfying way. Maybe it's because they were so separate from Frank's that when they did converge it never felt satisfying to me. They came together because they HAD to, rather than a dramatically satisfying reason for me. Especially the episode where the PTSD brings the bomb and Frank saves Karen

Yeah it helped bring our characters together and revealed to Frank and Midani that Billy was evil but still... it felt convenient rather than earned.

Also, the last few episodes where soooo extremely violent that I just tune out. It doesn't even upset me, I just glaze over. Especially Frank and Rawlins. I just zoned out during that endless back and forth of beating the shit out of each other.

Some great actors with great characters. But the story started strong and fizzled for me.

MonkeyBones23 posted...

To me the only time it dragged was when Frank had Micro in the chair for the whole episode. Did not like that episode

That and the second last episode

TheDarkCircle posted...

I felt it started really strong. I think Jon Bernthal is great as Punisher. Really liked his relationship with Micro was fantastic, I totally bought their friendship. Also, his scenes with Karen were still great.

The rest of it was pretty meh to me tbh. I felt that the other storylines never REALLY came together for me in a satisfying way. Maybe it's because they were so separate from Frank's that when they did converge it never felt satisfying to me. They came together because they HAD to, rather than a dramatically satisfying reason for me. Especially the episode where the PTSD brings the bomb and Frank saves Karen

Yeah it helped bring our characters together and revealed to Frank and Midani that Billy was evil but still... it felt convenient rather than earned.

Also, the last few episodes where soooo extremely violent that I just tune out. It doesn't even upset me, I just glaze over. Especially Frank and Rawlins. I just zoned out during that endless back and forth of beating the shit out of each other.

Some great actors with great characters. But the story started strong and fizzled for me.

I agree with pretty much everything you said. The characters and acting were really strong, but the plot missed the mark in a few respects. I really didn't like the hotel episode.
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TheDarkCircle posted...

I felt it started really strong. I think Jon Bernthal is great as Punisher. Really liked his relationship with Micro was fantastic, I totally bought their friendship. Also, his scenes with Karen were still great.

The rest of it was pretty meh to me tbh. I felt that the other storylines never REALLY came together for me in a satisfying way. Maybe it's because they were so separate from Frank's that when they did converge it never felt satisfying to me. They came together because they HAD to, rather than a dramatically satisfying reason for me. Especially the episode where the PTSD brings the bomb and Frank saves Karen

Yeah it helped bring our characters together and revealed to Frank and Midani that Billy was evil but still... it felt convenient rather than earned.

Also, the last few episodes where soooo extremely violent that I just tune out. It doesn't even upset me, I just glaze over. Especially Frank and Rawlins. I just zoned out during that endless back and forth of beating the shit out of each other.

Some great actors with great characters. But the story started strong and fizzled for me.

Get out and watch tellitubies

Re-iNcarnated posted...

TheDarkCircle posted...

I felt it started really strong. I think Jon Bernthal is great as Punisher. Really liked his relationship with Micro was fantastic, I totally bought their friendship. Also, his scenes with Karen were still great.

The rest of it was pretty meh to me tbh. I felt that the other storylines never REALLY came together for me in a satisfying way. Maybe it's because they were so separate from Frank's that when they did converge it never felt satisfying to me. They came together because they HAD to, rather than a dramatically satisfying reason for me. Especially the episode where the PTSD brings the bomb and Frank saves Karen

Yeah it helped bring our characters together and revealed to Frank and Midani that Billy was evil but still... it felt convenient rather than earned.

Also, the last few episodes where soooo extremely violent that I just tune out. It doesn't even upset me, I just glaze over. Especially Frank and Rawlins. I just zoned out during that endless back and forth of beating the shit out of each other.

Some great actors with great characters. But the story started strong and fizzled for me.

Get out and watch tellitubies

I think it's a valid criticism. After enough violence it's hard to stay engaged, unless there's some substance. That scene in the penultimate episode dragged on too long.
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