Current Events > When I was growing up I always voted Republican because my parents did

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Looking back on that, and after learning some of my folks "REAL" thoughts on certain things, that was quite fucked up.

Instead of investigating the issues and forming an opinion for myself I just went with the flow and tried to be on the same "team" as my family.

It's not until you live by yourself out in the real world for a while, and meet other people in different situations than yourself that you realize just how fucked up the GOP is.

In a former life they were my team. After that I was split and though that there were "good" republicans and "good" democrats.

Now I'm a firm believe that there are ZERO "good" republicans and anyone who would willingly associate with that hate group is either malicious or ignorant beyond belief. I have no respect for anyone like that.
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Voting republicans is wrong, and I'm glad you've seen the error of your mistakes

How often did you vote while growing up?
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lol
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Anteaterking posted...

How often did you vote while growing up?

Only in the presidential elections at first.

Nowadays I vote in every damn election I can.
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RedZaraki posted...

Anteaterking posted...

How often did you vote while growing up?

Only in the presidential elections at first.

Nowadays I vote in every damn election I can.

What age range is "growing up" to you?
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When I was a teenager, I was a libertarian

When I started college, I was a reluctant Republican

In 2008, I grit my teeth and voted for Obama

When I finished college, I was a centrist Democrat

In 2012, I voted for Obama enthusiastically

When I started working and paying taxes, I moved moved center-left

In 2016, I was a Bernie supporter first, and later an enthusiastic Hillary supporter

These days I sit comfortably left of center and I don't agree with my family on anything.

You claim there are no good Republicans, then turn around in the next breath and call THEM the hateful group.
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RedZaraki posted...

Now I'm a firm believe that there are ZERO "good" republicans

That's not true. Kasich is definitely a good one.
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Caelthus posted...

That's not true. Kasich is definitely a good one.

*shaking head*
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/john-kasich-abortion-2016-campaign-218846
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/28/politics/john-kasich-north-korea/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/16/politics/john-kasich-iraq-war-2002/index.html
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pretty similar to me TC. it took me a long time to realize my parent's believes stop them from being good people. they have a lot of believes based on hate or disgust.

im sure there are some good republicans out there, I've just never met them.
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I like the economic ideologies of Republicans. But the fact is, they are rarely actually implemented by the representatives we put into office. And unfortunately, most Republican candidates are very socially conservative. Libertarians are all too extreme. I wish there was a socially moderate / fiscally right leaning party I could vote for. Some social policies are OK. I'm not against some kind of social healthcare for example. A system where decent public healthcare and excellent private healthcare can co-exist would be ideal IMO (I think the ACA was the first step toward this).
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So did I until I saw who McCain's running mate was. I like McCain but in 2008 I feared what would happen if he died in office and Palin became president. That is when I realized the issues mattered to me more then the party.
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at least your parents didn't change for the worse. my dad voted for Obama in 2012 and for Trump in 2016
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prince_leo posted...

at least your parents didn't change for the worse. my dad voted for Obama in 2012 and for Trump in 2016

My mom and uncle both did that. My uncle was regretted the decision pretty quickly but still defends the dude on occasion and my mom just prefers to act like she never did.
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Many who jumped the line to vote for Trump did so because they disliked Hillary. That's what my mom did.
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

Voting republicans is wrong, and I'm glad you've seen the error of your mistakes

Voting Republican isn't wrong. You can be economically in favour of Republicans, which a lot of people are. Unfortunately, there's a lot of baggage that comes with that.

RedZaraki posted...

Instead of investigating the issues and forming an opinion for myself I just went with the flow and tried to be on the same "team" as my family.

I've heard stories of families split apart over political leanings. Such a hotbed issue. If you took the time to learn and appreciate what each side offers to the political landscape, then you did more homework than most other people.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

My mom and uncle both did that. My uncle was regretted the decision pretty quickly but still defends the dude on occasion and my mom just prefers to act like she never did.

mine does think Trump can be an idiot, but he also buys into the whole "the establishment hate him"
he flip flops on the GOP, whether they're trying to do good or whether they're a bunch of crooks. he also thinks everyone who hates Trump should just "give him a chance"
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I can't imagine thinking like this, with how bat-shit insane Modern Liberals have become. They are "1984", become reality. The one thing they've taught me, is that Classical Liberals aren't so bad. They're actually pretty reasonable.
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So, you're being a liberal to rebel against your parents.
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Not really politics, but this is how I feel about religion, though I don't really publicize my views with my family.
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musta been nice growing up rich tho

Anteaterking posted...

RedZaraki posted...

Anteaterking posted...

How often did you vote while growing up?

Only in the presidential elections at first.

Nowadays I vote in every damn election I can.

What age range is "growing up" to you?

18-24 year olds are still kids, far as I'm concerned.
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Caelthus posted...

RedZaraki posted...

Now I'm a firm believe that there are ZERO "good" republicans

That's not true. Kasich is definitely a good one.

I like Kasich, and I'd argue Mitt Romney is a decent human being.

I still consider myself a republican, but I'd never vote for Trump and think there is definitely a difference between "Trump republicans" and others.
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Alucard188 posted...

Voting Republican isn't wrong. You can be economically in favour of Republicans, which a lot of people are. Unfortunately, there's a lot of baggage that comes with that.

Why would you be economically in favor of screwing over everyone who doesn't have a seven figure income?

southcoast09 posted...

So, you're being a liberal to rebel against your parents.

And now you see Gen Z becoming conservative to rebel against their parents. Well, that and they're terrified of what the extreme left is doing.
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It's true. The new generation doesn't want sjwland
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Kalkano posted...

southcoast09 posted...

So, you're being a liberal to rebel against your parents.

And now you see Gen Z becoming conservative to rebel against their parents. Well, that and they're terrified of what the extreme left is doing.

Let's hope they don't go in the other extreme. We don't need any alt-right/neo-Nazi type nonsense running the country.
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when I was in 7th grade, some kids asked me what party my parents were. I said republican. I didn't even know the difference back then. they laughed at me.

KILBOTz posted...

im sure there are some good republicans out there, I've just never met them.

I bet you have you just didn't know it. lots of republicans dont' wear their politics on their sleeve.

RedZaraki posted...

Looking back on that, and after learning some of my folks "REAL" thoughts on certain things, that was quite fucked up.

Instead of investigating the issues and forming an opinion for myself I just went with the flow and tried to be on the same "team" as my family.

It's not until you live by yourself out in the real world for a while, and meet other people in different situations than yourself that you realize just how fucked up the GOP is.

In a former life they were my team. After that I was split and though that there were "good" republicans and "good" democrats.

Now I'm a firm believe that there are ZERO "good" republicans and anyone who would willingly associate with that hate group is either malicious or ignorant beyond belief. I have no respect for anyone like that.

>going from party-line voting to party-line voting

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tbh, if Romney won against Obama in 2012 the country would be a much better place
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Both parties are absolute dog shit. They're irredeemable. Equally so.
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Steve Nick posted...

Both parties are absolute dog shit. They're irredeemable. Equally so.

lol
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Kalkano posted...

I can't imagine thinking like this, with how bat-shit insane Modern Liberals have become. They are "1984", become reality. The one thing they've taught me, is that Classical Liberals aren't so bad. They're actually pretty reasonable.

How bat-shit insane and completely self-unaware. We've got a significant portion of the country at this point that thinks "Everyone who disagrees with me is a racist bigoted hateful Nazi" is actually a reasonable worldview.
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There is also the PC culture that the left perpetuates that makes it hard to say or get anything done without being called a bigot, sexist, or racist.
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Solar_Crimson posted...

Not really politics, but this is how I feel about religion, though I don't really publicize my views with my family.

This for me as well.
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Steve Nick posted...

Both parties are absolute dog shit. They're irredeemable. Equally so.

If the republicans weren't greedy racists, their party would be superior to the democrats.
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Feline_Heart posted...

If the republicans weren't greedy racists,

"If water wasn't wet"

The party's core principles rest on protecting and strengthening the wealthiest slice of the country, while using racial dogwhistles to win over enough middle and working class white people.

If you get rid of the greed and racism, you're basically left only with people who think homosexuality should be illegal.
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Feline_Heart posted...

If the republicans weren't greedy racists, their party would be superior to the democrats.

Feline_Heart posted...

Republicans are superior to the democrats.

^ No difference between these two statements.
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Antifar posted...

while using racial dogwhistles

Not sure if serious...That's what DEMOCRATS do.
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