Current Events > Even if atheists don't believe Jesus is God, why don't they listen to his words?

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Damn_Underscore
11/27/17 7:32:54 PM
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he has a lot of great things to say in a philosophical sense
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Kamala_Harris
11/27/17 7:33:50 PM
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Because there are actual philosophers out there worth studying besides "Jesus"
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more_cow_bell
11/27/17 7:33:54 PM
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RaptorLC
11/27/17 7:34:07 PM
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He was quite an amazing liberal philosopher for the era. You'd be surprised to find out that many atheists do indeed enjoy his teachings.
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Dragonblade01
11/27/17 7:34:24 PM
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Speaking as an atheist, I can take as much of the positive content as I choose from any text I read.
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pinky0926
11/27/17 7:34:35 PM
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I always say, the Bible is a ripping yarn
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Banjo2553
11/27/17 7:34:56 PM
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more_cow_bell posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Jesus is God

what?

Haven't heard of the Holy Trinity?
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Garioshi
11/27/17 7:35:24 PM
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more_cow_bell posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Jesus is God

what?

ever proven the holy trinity to be false before?
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Verdekal
11/27/17 7:35:34 PM
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Most of Jesus' teachings are just recycled Jewish wisdom, thousands of years older.
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Damn_Underscore
11/27/17 7:36:35 PM
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Jesus came in a time when people were very corrupt, very relevant to today
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Kaname_Madoka
11/27/17 7:36:53 PM
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Verdekal posted...
Most of Jesus' teachings are just recycled Jewish wisdom, thousands of years older.

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Smashingpmkns
11/27/17 7:37:09 PM
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Wasn't Jesus a socialist
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hockeybub89
11/27/17 7:38:43 PM
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He's not really saying anything unique or profound. If he's not actually the son of God, he's just a nice guy telling people to be nice.
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Dragonblade01
11/27/17 7:42:12 PM
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Jesus's teachings were contextually interesting because, in a lot of ways, they went against the traditional orthodox culture of the time (not the least of which was being far more inclusive to non-Jewish people). Hell, that is undoubtedly one of the underlying causes for the resulting religion's success.
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Damn_Underscore
11/27/17 7:43:25 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Wasn't Jesus a socialist


not really

Jesus' teachings aren't capitalist or socialist
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Heineken14
11/27/17 7:43:28 PM
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Robocop is a better retelling of the Jesus story.
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Webmaster4531
11/27/17 7:45:29 PM
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Why don't Christians? He said all rich people go to hell.
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Zikten
11/27/17 7:46:09 PM
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Heineken14 posted...
Robocop is a better retelling of the Jesus story.

I prefer the Death of Superman epic

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gunplagirl
11/27/17 7:46:52 PM
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Jesus preached to love your fellow man even if they're in sin, pay your taxes, free healthcare, feed the poor and hungry and used a whip against money changers (people profiting off religion).

Besides Mr. Rogers, I've never seen an alleged Christian actually adhere to all these philosophies.
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FigureOfSpeech
11/27/17 7:47:36 PM
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Kaname_Madoka posted...
Verdekal posted...
Most of Jesus' teachings are just recycled Jewish wisdom, thousands of years older.


hockeybub89 posted...
He's not really saying anything unique or profound.


This. Of course things like "treat others how you want to be treated" and general ideologies and practices in kindness, generosity and other inherently socially positive traits are good teachings, but they are certainly not strictly applicable to him. I wouldn't give him any more credit than anyone else teaching the same ideas, and they are generally accepted as common sense, though I admit they are not practiced as widely as they should be, but shitty people will be shitty and horrible circumstances can darken minds.
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Banjo2553
11/27/17 7:48:15 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
Why don't Christians? He said all rich people go to hell.

Technically he said stingy people don't go to heaven. You can be poor and stingy.
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Damn_Underscore
11/27/17 7:53:52 PM
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He also told a parable where some virgins were prepared and brought lamp oil, while others didn't. The ones who brought oil didn't give any to the ones who didn't. The ones who brought the oil went to the wedding party and the ones who didn't bring it had to take time and get some, and they were locked out from the party.

Socialists that try to use Jesus' teachings as pro-socialism are always dishonest. They just want to criticize Christians. Don't forget that Jesus HATED hypocrites.
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Webmaster4531
11/27/17 7:56:33 PM
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Banjo2553 posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Why don't Christians? He said all rich people go to hell.

Technically he said stingy people don't go to heaven. You can be poor and stingy.

"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of Heaven"

The explanation it was a figurative name for a entryway is bullshit to piss on Jesus.
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P4wn4g3
11/27/17 7:56:43 PM
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As an atheist I like Jesus's teachings. It's mostly everything else about the religion I don't like, with a handful of exceptions.
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Vertania
11/27/17 8:14:50 PM
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imo, he says a lot of the right things, but for the wrong reason. The focus shouldn't be on getting into Heaven, pleasing God, or avoiding "sin;" people should just be good for the sake of being good.

Buddha was a hell of a lot more interesting to me in that respect.
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ChromaticAngel
11/27/17 8:16:27 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Wasn't Jesus a socialist


not really

Jesus' teachings aren't capitalist or socialist

Jesus preached personal charity, not give everything to the romans and let them figure it out.
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