Poll of the Day > McCain to vote in Republicans favor

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Rasmoh 12/02/17 5:14:07 AM #51:	darkknight109 posted... Trump re-election looks like a longshot. Until you factor in the shitshow that is the Democrat party. They have no one to run against him and his election has served as a vanguard for a rising political demographic. I'd also imagine he'd get a lot more people out voting if he would actually get to removing the menace of illegal immigrants and anchor babies like he always talked about. And listening to poll numbers is a tremendous mistake, as evidence by the Presidential election. --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you. <cite>Rasmoh posted [p:891441929] in McCain to ... [t:76048004]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>Trump re-election looks like a longshot.</quote> Until you factor in the shitshow that is the Democrat party. They have no one to run against him and his election has served as a vanguard for a rising political demographic. I'd also imagine he'd get a lot more people out voting if he would actually get to removing the menace of illegal immigrants and anchor babies like he always talked about. And listening to poll numbers is a tremendous mistake, as evidence by the Presidential election.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 12/02/17 5:27:21 AM #52:	Rasmoh posted... Until you factor in the shitshow that is the Democrat party. They have no one to run against him You know this exact thing was said about the Republicans in the Obama years, right? If Hillary - a historically unpopular Democrat - only narrowly lost against Trump, a generic Democrat very likely would have won then. Hell, if Hillary were to run again, I'd still put her as the odds on favourite (though not by as much) because she wouldn't have the voter fatigue effect working against her, while Trump's various gaffes would be weighing on him. Rasmoh posted... his election has served as a vanguard for a rising political demographic. That being who? Most of the rising demographics are Democrat these days. Hispanics are the largest growing demographic in the US and they vote overwhelmingly Democrat. Blacks remain the largest minority group (and are growing larger) and they vote even more overwhelmingly Democrat. Boomers - a core Republican group - are starting to die off and the new biggest age demographic - Millennials - are one of the most liberal in a long time, with no signs that they're drifting right as they age. Trump lost among women, the educated, and virtually every minority group. His core demographics are white men, and whites without a post-secondary education. Those two demographics are both shrinking and it's hard to see how the Republicans can continue to chart a path forwards without courting some of the demographics that have traditionally voted against them (they've managed to throw themselves a lifeline with some absolutely atrocious gerrymandering, but that will only take them so far and it's a major factor in why the party is so fractured today). Rasmoh posted... I'd also imagine he'd get a lot more people out voting if he would actually get to removing the menace of illegal immigrants and anchor babies like he always talked about. I doubt that, but even if it's true the Republicans have vowed to sign protections for Dreamers into law as part of the negotiations to save their tax bill, so don't hold your breath on this one. Rasmoh posted... And listening to poll numbers is a tremendous mistake, as evidence by the Presidential election. The election results were within the margin of error for the poll results (the reputable ones, anyways), so this really was not the massive upset you seem to think it was. Hillary was polling far ahead nationally and, lo and behold, she won far ahead nationally. Trump had a ~30% chance to win based on the last polls before the election, which is low but not nothing, and his win - fitting with the polls - was extraordinarily narrow. The electoral college is good at masking just how close the election was, but again, the results were determined by <100k voters in three states. If ~45k people swapped their votes from Trump to Hillary, she would be president. The 2016 election was decided by 5 percent of one percent of the electorate. It's easy to miss, but this was likely the closest election in modern history other than Bush/Gore. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:891442167] in McCain to ... [t:76048004]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>Until you factor in the shitshow that is the Democrat party. They have no one to run against him</quote> You know this exact thing was said about the Republicans in the Obama years, right? If Hillary - a historically unpopular Democrat - only narrowly lost against Trump, a generic Democrat very likely would have won then. Hell, if Hillary were to run again, I'd still put her as the odds on favourite (though not by as much) because she wouldn't have the voter fatigue effect working against her, while Trump's various gaffes would be weighing on him. <cite>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>his election has served as a vanguard for a rising political demographic. </quote> That being who? Most of the rising demographics are Democrat these days. Hispanics are the largest growing demographic in the US and they vote overwhelmingly Democrat. Blacks remain the largest minority group (and are growing larger) and they vote even more overwhelmingly Democrat. Boomers - a core Republican group - are starting to die off and the new biggest age demographic - Millennials - are one of the most liberal in a long time, with no signs that they're drifting right as they age. Trump lost among women, the educated, and virtually every minority group. His core demographics are white men, and whites without a post-secondary education. Those two demographics are both shrinking and it's hard to see how the Republicans can continue to chart a path forwards without courting some of the demographics that have traditionally voted against them (they've managed to throw themselves a lifeline with some absolutely atrocious gerrymandering, but that will only take them so far and it's a major factor in why the party is so fractured today). <cite>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>I'd also imagine he'd get a lot more people out voting if he would actually get to removing the menace of illegal immigrants and anchor babies like he always talked about.</quote> I doubt that, but even if it's true the Republicans have vowed to sign protections for Dreamers into law as part of the negotiations to save their tax bill, so don't hold your breath on this one. <cite>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>And listening to poll numbers is a tremendous mistake, as evidence by the Presidential election.</quote> The election results were within the margin of error for the poll results (the reputable ones, anyways), so this really was not the massive upset you seem to think it was. Hillary was polling far ahead nationally and, lo and behold, she won far ahead nationally. Trump had a ~30% chance to win based on the last polls before the election, which is low but not nothing, and his win - fitting with the polls - was extraordinarily narrow. The electoral college is good at masking just how close the election was, but again, the results were determined by <100k voters in three states. If ~45k people swapped their votes from Trump to Hillary, she would be president. The 2016 election was decided by 5 percent of one percent of the electorate. It's easy to miss, but this was likely the closest election in modern history other than Bush/Gore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 12/02/17 5:40:05 AM #53:	the fun thing is that, if anyone other than hillary ran, trump would not be president right now. --- "Dogs smell like they've had too much fun and need a bath Cats smell like espionage" - Mead <cite>helIy posted [p:891442358] in McCain to ... [t:76048004]...</cite> <quote>the fun thing is that, if anyone other than hillary ran, trump would not be president right now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rasmoh 12/02/17 5:47:08 AM #54:	helIy posted... the fun thing is that, if anyone other than hillary ran, trump would not be president right now. People still actually believe this shit? Like, do people actually think Bernie Sanders and his campaign of free shit for everyone would've been appealing to anyone that wasn't a naive college student? Trump literally tore a path through both the Republican and Democrat establishments. --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you. <cite>Rasmoh posted [p:891442494] in McCain to ... [t:76048004]...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>the fun thing is that, if anyone other than hillary ran, trump would not be president right now.</quote> People still actually believe this shit? Like, do people actually think Bernie Sanders and his campaign of free shit for everyone would've been appealing to anyone that wasn't a naive college student? Trump literally tore a path through both the Republican and Democrat establishments.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 12/02/17 8:06:48 AM #55:	Rasmoh posted... helIy posted... the fun thing is that, if anyone other than hillary ran, trump would not be president right now. People still actually believe this shit? Like, do people actually think Bernie Sanders and his campaign of free shit for everyone would've been appealing to anyone that wasn't a naive college student? Trump literally tore a path through both the Republican and Democrat establishments. yes, and it's because of statistics and data analysis that we can actually determine this. trump literally only barely just won --- "Dogs smell like they've had too much fun and need a bath Cats smell like espionage" - Mead <cite>helIy posted [p:891444944] in McCain to ... [t:76048004]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>the fun thing is that, if anyone other than hillary ran, trump would not be president right now.</quote> People still actually believe this shit? Like, do people actually think Bernie Sanders and his campaign of free shit for everyone would've been appealing to anyone that wasn't a naive college student? Trump literally tore a path through both the Republican and Democrat establishments.</quote> yes, and it's because of statistics and data analysis that we can actually determine this. trump literally only barely just won</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 12/02/17 8:07:35 AM #56:	Rasmoh posted... darkknight109 posted... Trump re-election looks like a longshot. Until you factor in the shitshow that is the Democrat party. They have no one to run against him and his election has served as a vanguard for a rising political demographic. I'd also imagine he'd get a lot more people out voting if he would actually get to removing the menace of illegal immigrants and anchor babies like he always talked about. And listening to poll numbers is a tremendous mistake, as evidence by the Presidential election. Rising political demographic? White nationalists? Because I haven't seen any other demographic out in the streets in support of him. They aren't a rising demographic. Did you see the votes in Virginia? Trump is being rejected. He won because enough people thought they would give him a chance. Give him the benefit of the doubt, "he couldn't be that much of a dumb ass could he?" But all those people who thought he would stop the stupid shit and actually be a president once he won found he didn't stop. There is no benefit of the doubt a second time. But I know you're not going to care. You're delusional, you hate those "liberals" and you just have to assume that they are all kids and illegals or some other condescending thoughts. Enjoy 2018. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:891444964] in McCain to ... [t:76048004]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>Trump re-election looks like a longshot.</quote> Until you factor in the shitshow that is the Democrat party. They have no one to run against him and his election has served as a vanguard for a rising political demographic. I'd also imagine he'd get a lot more people out voting if he would actually get to removing the menace of illegal immigrants and anchor babies like he always talked about. And listening to poll numbers is a tremendous mistake, as evidence by the Presidential election.</quote> Rising political demographic? White nationalists? Because I haven't seen any other demographic out in the streets in support of him. They aren't a rising demographic. Did you see the votes in Virginia? Trump is being rejected. He won because enough people thought they would give him a chance. Give him the benefit of the doubt, "he couldn't be that much of a dumb ass could he?" But all those people who thought he would stop the stupid shit and actually be a president once he won found he didn't stop. There is no benefit of the doubt a second time. But I know you're not going to care. You're delusional, you hate those "liberals" and you just have to assume that they are all kids and illegals or some other condescending thoughts. Enjoy 2018.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClarkDuke 12/03/17 10:32:07 PM #57:	Rasmoh posted... helIy posted... the fun thing is that, if anyone other than hillary ran, trump would not be president right now. People still actually believe this shit? Like, do people actually think Bernie Sanders and his campaign of free shit for everyone would've been appealing to anyone that wasn't a naive college student? Trump literally tore a path through both the Republican and Democrat establishments. Trump barely won, you don't seem smart, ok? --- http://i.imgur.com/qL0DHFI.gif http://i.imgur.com/JL9rRLt.gif https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ <cite>ClarkDuke posted [p:891543651] in McCain to ... [t:76048004]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>the fun thing is that, if anyone other than hillary ran, trump would not be president right now.</quote> People still actually believe this shit? Like, do people actually think Bernie Sanders and his campaign of free shit for everyone would've been appealing to anyone that wasn't a naive college student? Trump literally tore a path through both the Republican and Democrat establishments.</quote> Trump barely won, you don't seem smart, ok?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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