Current Events > There is no evidence whatsoever of life in this universe outside of our planet.

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stevethewindow 12/02/17 9:47:12 AM #51:	Trigg3rH4ppy posted... The fact that there's no evidence means nothing. A true doctrine forming. Scientism "The FACT that there is no evidence means nothing." We are all correct, end of. A bit like the priest saying don't question the bible <cite>stevethewindow posted [p:891447751] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>Trigg3rH4ppy posted...</cite> <quote> The fact that there's no evidence means nothing. </quote> A true doctrine forming. Scientism "The FACT that there is no evidence means nothing." We are all correct, end of. A bit like the priest saying don't question the bible</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 12/02/17 9:47:14 AM #52:	Trigg3rH4ppy posted... The probability of us being the only life in the universe is so ridiculously small that I would bet everything I own that we're not alone. Probability is a science. On what grounds can you assert this? --- Whatever happened to standards? Whatever happened to bare minimums? 15 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:891447753] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>Trigg3rH4ppy posted...</cite> <quote>The probability of us being the only life in the universe is so ridiculously small that I would bet everything I own that we're not alone.</quote> Probability is a science. On what grounds can you assert this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
charey 12/02/17 9:52:27 AM #53:	We dont have any proof of life because we cant really check planets outside our solar system. The smaller forms of life (fish, microcrobes) would be impossible to detect through a telescope. Basicly life outside of earth will be hard to find until space travel becomes a real thing, if FTL travel is even possible. --- I won't have it! I'm not having anyone talk about me in the past tense! ~Squall Leonhart <cite>charey posted [p:891447912] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>We dont have any proof of life because we cant really check planets outside our solar system. The smaller forms of life (fish, microcrobes) would be impossible to detect through a telescope. Basicly life outside of earth will be hard to find until space travel becomes a real thing, if FTL travel is even possible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HypnoCoosh 12/02/17 9:54:06 AM #54:	Topic title is correct but it's just plain ignorant to even consider earth is the only planet with "life". --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis <cite>HypnoCoosh posted [p:891447957] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>Topic title is correct but it's just plain ignorant to even consider earth is the only planet with "life".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiek_Fafn 12/02/17 9:54:45 AM #55:	GiftedACIII posted... Haven't they already discovered micro particles or some shit It's inconclusive. A meteor that came from mars has a lot of possible signs of micro organisms, but there's also other explanations for why those signs would be there. --- PSN: Jiek <cite>Jiek_Fafn posted [p:891447979] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>Haven't they already discovered micro particles or some shit</quote> It's inconclusive. A meteor that came from mars has a lot of possible signs of micro organisms, but there's also other explanations for why those signs would be there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stevethewindow 12/02/17 9:57:10 AM #56:	HypnoCoosh posted... Topic title is correct but it's just plain ignorant to even consider earth is the only planet with "life". Consider all you like. I see it all the time in sci fi movies. I can suspend my disbelief and enjoy a movie. But it's also ignorant, actually I'll say arrogant to assert that their is life. <cite>stevethewindow posted [p:891448047] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote>Topic title is correct but it's just plain ignorant to even consider earth is the only planet with "life".</quote> Consider all you like. I see it all the time in sci fi movies. I can suspend my disbelief and enjoy a movie. But it's also ignorant, actually I'll say arrogant to assert that their is life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sada_Pop 12/02/17 9:57:17 AM #57:	hollow_shrine posted... FluttershyPony posted... >We can prove that life exists on earth >We cannot prove that life does not exist outside of earth Only a brainlet would assume that there's no other life form somewhere in the vastness of space. No you have insufficient information to draw either conclusion. The intellectually responsible thing to do is say 'maybe, but further speculation should be built on the back of new data and not our love of science fiction. Until such new data appears, we would do better to concern ourselves with things we know, or have strong evidence to suspect, are real.' This is the most fair statement that I've heard so far on this topic. Maybe is more than fair because it's based on probability. There's no need to state conjecture as fact. Smart people don't do that. --- People would have you believe that the accusation of racism is more offensive than ACTUAL racism. <cite>Sada_Pop posted [p:891448053] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FluttershyPony posted...</cite> <quote>>We can prove that life exists on earth >We cannot prove that life does not exist outside of earth Only a brainlet would assume that there's no other life form somewhere in the vastness of space.</quote> No you have insufficient information to draw either conclusion. The intellectually responsible thing to do is say 'maybe, but further speculation should be built on the back of new data and not our love of science fiction. Until such new data appears, we would do better to concern ourselves with things we know, or have strong evidence to suspect, are real.'</quote> This is the most fair statement that I've heard so far on this topic. Maybe is more than fair because it's based on probability. There's no need to state conjecture as fact. Smart people don't do that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stevethewindow 12/02/17 9:59:26 AM #58:	Sada_Pop posted... hollow_shrine posted... FluttershyPony posted... >We can prove that life exists on earth >We cannot prove that life does not exist outside of earth Only a brainlet would assume that there's no other life form somewhere in the vastness of space. No you have insufficient information to draw either conclusion. The intellectually responsible thing to do is say 'maybe, but further speculation should be built on the back of new data and not our love of science fiction. Until such new data appears, we would do better to concern ourselves with things we know, or have strong evidence to suspect, are real.' This is the most fair statement that I've heard so far on this topic. Maybe is more than fair because it's based on probability. There's no need to state conjecture as fact. Smart people don't do that. I agree that it's the best post. I also like the idea of him saying we should focus on more important things. Like enegery conservation, feeding the hungry improving technology for travel etc... So many better things to focus on <cite>stevethewindow posted [p:891448112] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sada_Pop posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FluttershyPony posted...</cite> <quote>>We can prove that life exists on earth >We cannot prove that life does not exist outside of earth Only a brainlet would assume that there's no other life form somewhere in the vastness of space.</quote> No you have insufficient information to draw either conclusion. The intellectually responsible thing to do is say 'maybe, but further speculation should be built on the back of new data and not our love of science fiction. Until such new data appears, we would do better to concern ourselves with things we know, or have strong evidence to suspect, are real.'</quote> This is the most fair statement that I've heard so far on this topic. Maybe is more than fair because it's based on probability. There's no need to state conjecture as fact. Smart people don't do that.</quote> I agree that it's the best post. I also like the idea of him saying we should focus on more important things. Like enegery conservation, feeding the hungry improving technology for travel etc... So many better things to focus on</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ballstopshere 12/02/17 10:01:44 AM #59:	the evidence for life is plenty, especially compared to the evidence for no life Billions upon billions of galaxies that each have billion upon billions of stars We are in one star The mental gymnastics you have to do to say there is life on only one planet in one of these stars is far greater than saying life is probably out there <cite>Ballstopshere posted [p:891448184] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>the evidence for life is plenty, especially compared to the evidence for no life Billions upon billions of galaxies that each have billion upon billions of stars We are in one star The mental gymnastics you have to do to say there is life on only one planet in one of these stars is far greater than saying life is probably out there</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack 12/02/17 10:02:09 AM #60:	what about the moon pyramids --- http://i.imgur.com/plA0Vg9.gif http://i.minus.com/iluvk8aR4mzC8.gif <cite>BignutzisBack posted [p:891448193] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>what about the moon pyramids</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 12/02/17 10:02:36 AM #61:	stevethewindow posted... Sada_Pop posted... hollow_shrine posted... FluttershyPony posted... >We can prove that life exists on earth >We cannot prove that life does not exist outside of earth Only a brainlet would assume that there's no other life form somewhere in the vastness of space. No you have insufficient information to draw either conclusion. The intellectually responsible thing to do is say 'maybe, but further speculation should be built on the back of new data and not our love of science fiction. Until such new data appears, we would do better to concern ourselves with things we know, or have strong evidence to suspect, are real.' This is the most fair statement that I've heard so far on this topic. Maybe is more than fair because it's based on probability. There's no need to state conjecture as fact. Smart people don't do that. I agree that it's the best post. I also like the idea of him saying we should focus on more important things. Like enegery conservation, feeding the hungry improving technology for travel etc... So many better things to focus on Lol focus on? Like we're letting people starve because we're too busy talking about aliens? C'mon don't start to actually agree with someone who's clearly trolling. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:891448207] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sada_Pop posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FluttershyPony posted...</cite> <quote>>We can prove that life exists on earth >We cannot prove that life does not exist outside of earth Only a brainlet would assume that there's no other life form somewhere in the vastness of space.</quote> No you have insufficient information to draw either conclusion. The intellectually responsible thing to do is say 'maybe, but further speculation should be built on the back of new data and not our love of science fiction. Until such new data appears, we would do better to concern ourselves with things we know, or have strong evidence to suspect, are real.'</quote> This is the most fair statement that I've heard so far on this topic. Maybe is more than fair because it's based on probability. There's no need to state conjecture as fact. Smart people don't do that.</quote> I agree that it's the best post. I also like the idea of him saying we should focus on more important things. Like enegery conservation, feeding the hungry improving technology for travel etc... So many better things to focus on</quote> Lol focus on? Like we're letting people starve because we're too busy talking about aliens? C'mon don't start to actually agree with someone who's clearly trolling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stevethewindow 12/02/17 10:04:28 AM #62:	Ballstopshere posted... the evidence for life is NOT plenty, especially compared to the ACTUAL evidence for no life Fixed <cite>stevethewindow posted [p:891448266] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ballstopshere posted...</cite> <quote>the evidence for life is NOT plenty, especially compared to the ACTUAL evidence for no life </quote> Fixed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ballstopshere 12/02/17 10:05:38 AM #63:	What evidence is there for no life <cite>Ballstopshere posted [p:891448311] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>What evidence is there for no life</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 12/02/17 10:06:19 AM #64:	I assure you I'm not trolling. Setting aside the entertainment value of speculative fiction, I think asking these questions are a waste of time until you have reason to believe they are relevant and important for scientific consideration. --- Whatever happened to standards? Whatever happened to bare minimums? 15 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:891448326] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>I assure you I'm not trolling. Setting aside the entertainment value of speculative fiction, I think asking these questions are a waste of time until you have reason to believe they are relevant and important for scientific consideration.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stevethewindow 12/02/17 10:09:18 AM #65:	Ballstopshere posted... What evidence is there for no life That there is no life... lol are you serious <cite>stevethewindow posted [p:891448438] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ballstopshere posted...</cite> <quote>What evidence is there for no life</quote> That there is no life... lol are you serious</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stevethewindow 12/02/17 10:10:21 AM #66:	nicklebro posted... stevethewindow posted... Sada_Pop posted... hollow_shrine posted... FluttershyPony posted... >We can prove that life exists on earth >We cannot prove that life does not exist outside of earth Only a brainlet would assume that there's no other life form somewhere in the vastness of space. No you have insufficient information to draw either conclusion. The intellectually responsible thing to do is say 'maybe, but further speculation should be built on the back of new data and not our love of science fiction. Until such new data appears, we would do better to concern ourselves with things we know, or have strong evidence to suspect, are real.' This is the most fair statement that I've heard so far on this topic. Maybe is more than fair because it's based on probability. There's no need to state conjecture as fact. Smart people don't do that. I agree that it's the best post. I also like the idea of him saying we should focus on more important things. Like enegery conservation, feeding the hungry improving technology for travel etc... So many better things to focus on Lol focus on? Like we're letting people starve because we're too busy talking about aliens? C'mon don't start to actually agree with someone who's clearly trolling. Why do you always resort by saying people are trolling? I know you like to believe aliens exist because your uncle came in at midnight when it was dark dressed like this.... just deal with the truth. There is no alien life. It was Uncle Kevin <cite>stevethewindow posted [p:891448476] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sada_Pop posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FluttershyPony posted...</cite> <quote>>We can prove that life exists on earth >We cannot prove that life does not exist outside of earth Only a brainlet would assume that there's no other life form somewhere in the vastness of space.</quote> No you have insufficient information to draw either conclusion. The intellectually responsible thing to do is say 'maybe, but further speculation should be built on the back of new data and not our love of science fiction. Until such new data appears, we would do better to concern ourselves with things we know, or have strong evidence to suspect, are real.'</quote> This is the most fair statement that I've heard so far on this topic. Maybe is more than fair because it's based on probability. There's no need to state conjecture as fact. Smart people don't do that.</quote> I agree that it's the best post. I also like the idea of him saying we should focus on more important things. Like enegery conservation, feeding the hungry improving technology for travel etc... So many better things to focus on</quote> Lol focus on? Like we're letting people starve because we're too busy talking about aliens? C'mon don't start to actually agree with someone who's clearly trolling.</quote> Why do you always resort by saying people are trolling? I know you like to believe aliens exist because your uncle came in at midnight when it was dark dressed like this.... just deal with the truth. There is no alien life. It was Uncle Kevin </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ballstopshere 12/02/17 10:11:28 AM #67:	what do you call life on earth lol thats like saying the only carbon in the universe is earth <cite>Ballstopshere posted [p:891448510] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>what do you call life on earth lol thats like saying the only carbon in the universe is earth</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 12/02/17 10:12:44 AM #68:	stevethewindow posted... nicklebro posted... stevethewindow posted... Sada_Pop posted... hollow_shrine posted... FluttershyPony posted... >We can prove that life exists on earth >We cannot prove that life does not exist outside of earth Only a brainlet would assume that there's no other life form somewhere in the vastness of space. No you have insufficient information to draw either conclusion. The intellectually responsible thing to do is say 'maybe, but further speculation should be built on the back of new data and not our love of science fiction. Until such new data appears, we would do better to concern ourselves with things we know, or have strong evidence to suspect, are real.' This is the most fair statement that I've heard so far on this topic. Maybe is more than fair because it's based on probability. There's no need to state conjecture as fact. Smart people don't do that. I agree that it's the best post. I also like the idea of him saying we should focus on more important things. Like enegery conservation, feeding the hungry improving technology for travel etc... So many better things to focus on Lol focus on? Like we're letting people starve because we're too busy talking about aliens? C'mon don't start to actually agree with someone who's clearly trolling. Why do you always resort by saying people are trolling? I know you like to believe aliens exist because your uncle came in at midnight when it was dark dressed like this.... just deal with the truth. There is no alien life. It was Uncle Kevin Lol yes why would I ever call someone who makes uncle rape jokes a troll. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:891448555] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sada_Pop posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FluttershyPony posted...</cite> <quote>>We can prove that life exists on earth >We cannot prove that life does not exist outside of earth Only a brainlet would assume that there's no other life form somewhere in the vastness of space.</quote> No you have insufficient information to draw either conclusion. The intellectually responsible thing to do is say 'maybe, but further speculation should be built on the back of new data and not our love of science fiction. Until such new data appears, we would do better to concern ourselves with things we know, or have strong evidence to suspect, are real.'</quote> This is the most fair statement that I've heard so far on this topic. Maybe is more than fair because it's based on probability. There's no need to state conjecture as fact. Smart people don't do that.</quote> I agree that it's the best post. I also like the idea of him saying we should focus on more important things. Like enegery conservation, feeding the hungry improving technology for travel etc... So many better things to focus on</quote> Lol focus on? Like we're letting people starve because we're too busy talking about aliens? C'mon don't start to actually agree with someone who's clearly trolling.</quote> Why do you always resort by saying people are trolling? I know you like to believe aliens exist because your uncle came in at midnight when it was dark dressed like this.... just deal with the truth. There is no alien life. It was Uncle Kevin </quote> Lol yes why would I ever call someone who makes uncle rape jokes a troll.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stevethewindow 12/02/17 10:12:47 AM #69:	Ballstopshere posted... what do you call life on earth lol thats like saying the only carbon in the universe is earth Nope carbon is carbon and carbon is on other planets. There is no EVIDENCE for life <cite>stevethewindow posted [p:891448558] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ballstopshere posted...</cite> <quote>what do you call life on earth lol thats like saying the only carbon in the universe is earth</quote> Nope carbon is carbon and carbon is on other planets. There is no EVIDENCE for life</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stevethewindow 12/02/17 10:13:29 AM #70:	nicklebro posted... stevethewindow posted... nicklebro posted... stevethewindow posted... Sada_Pop posted... hollow_shrine posted... FluttershyPony posted... >We can prove that life exists on earth >We cannot prove that life does not exist outside of earth Only a brainlet would assume that there's no other life form somewhere in the vastness of space. No you have insufficient information to draw either conclusion. The intellectually responsible thing to do is say 'maybe, but further speculation should be built on the back of new data and not our love of science fiction. Until such new data appears, we would do better to concern ourselves with things we know, or have strong evidence to suspect, are real.' This is the most fair statement that I've heard so far on this topic. Maybe is more than fair because it's based on probability. There's no need to state conjecture as fact. Smart people don't do that. I agree that it's the best post. I also like the idea of him saying we should focus on more important things. Like enegery conservation, feeding the hungry improving technology for travel etc... So many better things to focus on Lol focus on? Like we're letting people starve because we're too busy talking about aliens? C'mon don't start to actually agree with someone who's clearly trolling. Why do you always resort by saying people are trolling? I know you like to believe aliens exist because your uncle came in at midnight when it was dark dressed like this.... just deal with the truth. There is no alien life. It was Uncle Kevin Lol yes why would I ever call someone who makes uncle rape jokes a troll. Jesus I never said anything about rape way over the top. I meant that he scared you <cite>stevethewindow posted [p:891448582] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sada_Pop posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FluttershyPony posted...</cite> <quote>>We can prove that life exists on earth >We cannot prove that life does not exist outside of earth Only a brainlet would assume that there's no other life form somewhere in the vastness of space.</quote> No you have insufficient information to draw either conclusion. The intellectually responsible thing to do is say 'maybe, but further speculation should be built on the back of new data and not our love of science fiction. Until such new data appears, we would do better to concern ourselves with things we know, or have strong evidence to suspect, are real.'</quote> This is the most fair statement that I've heard so far on this topic. Maybe is more than fair because it's based on probability. There's no need to state conjecture as fact. Smart people don't do that.</quote> I agree that it's the best post. I also like the idea of him saying we should focus on more important things. Like enegery conservation, feeding the hungry improving technology for travel etc... So many better things to focus on</quote> Lol focus on? Like we're letting people starve because we're too busy talking about aliens? C'mon don't start to actually agree with someone who's clearly trolling.</quote> Why do you always resort by saying people are trolling? I know you like to believe aliens exist because your uncle came in at midnight when it was dark dressed like this.... just deal with the truth. There is no alien life. It was Uncle Kevin </quote> Lol yes why would I ever call someone who makes uncle rape jokes a troll.</quote> Jesus I never said anything about rape way over the top. I meant that he scared you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ballstopshere 12/02/17 10:14:28 AM #71:	stevethewindow posted... Nope Carbon is Carbon and carbon is on other planets. There is no EVIDENCE for life how do you know carbon is on other planets? <cite>Ballstopshere posted [p:891448612] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote>Nope Carbon is Carbon and carbon is on other planets. There is no EVIDENCE for life </quote> how do you know carbon is on other planets?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stevethewindow 12/02/17 10:15:39 AM #72:	Ballstopshere posted... stevethewindow posted... Nope Carbon is Carbon and carbon is on other planets. There is no EVIDENCE for life how do you know carbon is on other planets? Well for starters it's on the moon and on mars <cite>stevethewindow posted [p:891448656] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ballstopshere posted...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote>Nope Carbon is Carbon and carbon is on other planets. There is no EVIDENCE for life </quote> how do you know carbon is on other planets?</quote> Well for starters it's on the moon and on mars</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ballstopshere 12/02/17 10:16:34 AM #73:	wow you been to the moon and mars, thats cool <cite>Ballstopshere posted [p:891448685] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>wow you been to the moon and mars, thats cool</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Taharqa_ 12/02/17 10:18:06 AM #74:	The elements that make up our bodies are among the most common in the universe. In the hundreds of billions of galaxies and even more stars and planets the notion that this tiny rock is the only one capable of sustaining life is pretty stupid. From what we can observe the universe doesn't do one offs. Now does that mean I believe that Star Trek aliens are roaming around and we'll discover them within our lifetimes? No, but I can't rule out the possibility. Could there be microbes on a planet or moon in our local solar system? Could be. Tardigrades can survive extreme temperatures and the vacuum of space so it's not outside the realm of possibility. Our problem is our technology to make these discoveries, hopefully when the James Webb Space Telescope is launched it'll provide more clues and details. --- "If you want to move fast, practice slowly...if you want to move like lightning, practice in stillness." <cite>Taharqa_ posted [p:891448731] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>The elements that make up our bodies are among the most common in the universe. In the hundreds of billions of galaxies and even more stars and planets the notion that this tiny rock is the only one capable of sustaining life is pretty stupid. From what we can observe the universe doesn't do one offs. Now does that mean I believe that Star Trek aliens are roaming around and we'll discover them within our lifetimes? No, but I can't rule out the possibility. Could there be microbes on a planet or moon in our local solar system? Could be. Tardigrades can survive extreme temperatures and the vacuum of space so it's not outside the realm of possibility. Our problem is our technology to make these discoveries, hopefully when the James Webb Space Telescope is launched it'll provide more clues and details.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 12/02/17 10:18:38 AM #75:	stevethewindow posted... Ballstopshere posted... stevethewindow posted... Nope Carbon is Carbon and carbon is on other planets. There is no EVIDENCE for life how do you know carbon is on other planets? Well for starters it's on the moon and on mars You have no proof of that, you're just believing what other people have told you. People that say there's most likely life on other planets. Hypocrite. But really is trolling seriously this entertaining to you? It seems horrible to me, but I lost my interest in annoying people for no reason a long time ago. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:891448747] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ballstopshere posted...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote>Nope Carbon is Carbon and carbon is on other planets. There is no EVIDENCE for life </quote> how do you know carbon is on other planets?</quote> Well for starters it's on the moon and on mars</quote> You have no proof of that, you're just believing what other people have told you. People that say there's most likely life on other planets. Hypocrite. But really is trolling seriously this entertaining to you? It seems horrible to me, but I lost my interest in annoying people for no reason a long time ago.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stevethewindow 12/02/17 10:22:10 AM #76:	nicklebro posted... stevethewindow posted... Ballstopshere posted... stevethewindow posted... Nope Carbon is Carbon and carbon is on other planets. There is no EVIDENCE for life how do you know carbon is on other planets? Well for starters it's on the moon and on mars You have no proof of that, you're just believing what other people have told you. People that say there's most likely life on other planets. Hypocrite. But really is trolling seriously this entertaining to you? It seems horrible to me, but I lost my interest in annoying people for no reason a long time ago. As soon as you work out I'm not trolling. If you are going to go by the logic that I only believe what I'm told. That carbon found on the moon is wrong and a conspiracy. Then don't bother continuing this discussion. Because by that logic you can't think anything. <cite>stevethewindow posted [p:891448867] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ballstopshere posted...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote>Nope Carbon is Carbon and carbon is on other planets. There is no EVIDENCE for life </quote> how do you know carbon is on other planets?</quote> Well for starters it's on the moon and on mars</quote> You have no proof of that, you're just believing what other people have told you. People that say there's most likely life on other planets. Hypocrite. But really is trolling seriously this entertaining to you? It seems horrible to me, but I lost my interest in annoying people for no reason a long time ago.</quote> As soon as you work out I'm not trolling. If you are going to go by the logic that I only believe what I'm told. That carbon found on the moon is wrong and a conspiracy. Then don't bother continuing this discussion. Because by that logic you can't think anything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thompson 12/02/17 10:22:12 AM #77:	The universe contains millions upon millions of galaxies with hundreds of millions of stars in each, equalling virtually countless solar systems. Therefore, it's reasonable to say that the probability of life on another planet is infinitely higher than the probability of the universe being devoid of life aside from our own planet. The lack of evidence supporting extraterrestrial life only means we've not been able to conclusively verify it as of this time. --- Sigs are rather pointless, except if it's to showcase animation and images. <cite>Thompson posted [p:891448869] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>The universe contains millions upon millions of galaxies with hundreds of millions of stars in each, equalling virtually countless solar systems. Therefore, it's reasonable to say that the probability of life on another planet is infinitely higher than the probability of the universe being devoid of life aside from our own planet. The lack of evidence supporting extraterrestrial life only means we've not been able to conclusively verify it as of this time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 12/02/17 10:24:51 AM #78:	stevethewindow posted... Ballstopshere posted... stevethewindow posted... Nope Carbon is Carbon and carbon is on other planets. There is no EVIDENCE for life how do you know carbon is on other planets? Well for starters it's on the moon and on mars How do you know carbon is on planets outside of our solar system? --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:891448964] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ballstopshere posted...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote>Nope Carbon is Carbon and carbon is on other planets. There is no EVIDENCE for life </quote> how do you know carbon is on other planets?</quote> Well for starters it's on the moon and on mars</quote> How do you know carbon is on planets outside of our solar system?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 12/02/17 10:29:34 AM #79:	stevethewindow posted... nicklebro posted... stevethewindow posted... Ballstopshere posted... stevethewindow posted... Nope Carbon is Carbon and carbon is on other planets. There is no EVIDENCE for life how do you know carbon is on other planets? Well for starters it's on the moon and on mars You have no proof of that, you're just believing what other people have told you. People that say there's most likely life on other planets. Hypocrite. But really is trolling seriously this entertaining to you? It seems horrible to me, but I lost my interest in annoying people for no reason a long time ago. As soon as you work out I'm not trolling. If you are going to go by the logic that I only believe what I'm told. That carbon found on the moon is wrong and a conspiracy. Then don't bother continuing this discussion. Because by that logic you can't think anything. Oh you're using logic to assert something you can't prove? Funny.... --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:891449114] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ballstopshere posted...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote>Nope Carbon is Carbon and carbon is on other planets. There is no EVIDENCE for life </quote> how do you know carbon is on other planets?</quote> Well for starters it's on the moon and on mars</quote> You have no proof of that, you're just believing what other people have told you. People that say there's most likely life on other planets. Hypocrite. But really is trolling seriously this entertaining to you? It seems horrible to me, but I lost my interest in annoying people for no reason a long time ago.</quote> As soon as you work out I'm not trolling. If you are going to go by the logic that I only believe what I'm told. That carbon found on the moon is wrong and a conspiracy. Then don't bother continuing this discussion. Because by that logic you can't think anything.</quote> Oh you're using logic to assert something you can't prove? Funny....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 12/02/17 10:30:20 AM #80:	Thompson posted... The universe contains millions upon millions of galaxies with hundreds of millions of stars in each, equalling virtually countless solar systems. Therefore, it's reasonable to say that the probability of life on another planet is infinitely higher than the probability of the universe being devoid of life aside from our own planet. The lack of evidence supporting extraterrestrial life only means we've not been able to conclusively verify it as of this time. With a data set of one instance of a life-bearing planet, you can't really speculate on probability. Really the term probability is being misused here. Even in a vast, potentially infinite universe of your description, the strongest statement you can make that isn't conjecture is that extraterrestrial life is possible. --- Whatever happened to standards? Whatever happened to bare minimums? 15 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:891449138] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>Thompson posted...</cite> <quote>The universe contains millions upon millions of galaxies with hundreds of millions of stars in each, equalling virtually countless solar systems. Therefore, it's reasonable to say that the probability of life on another planet is infinitely higher than the probability of the universe being devoid of life aside from our own planet. The lack of evidence supporting extraterrestrial life only means we've not been able to conclusively verify it as of this time.</quote> With a data set of one instance of a life-bearing planet, you can't really speculate on probability. Really the term probability is being misused here. Even in a vast, potentially infinite universe of your description, the strongest statement you can make that isn't conjecture is that extraterrestrial life is possible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 12/02/17 10:33:44 AM #81:	hollow_shrine posted... Thompson posted... The universe contains millions upon millions of galaxies with hundreds of millions of stars in each, equalling virtually countless solar systems. Therefore, it's reasonable to say that the probability of life on another planet is infinitely higher than the probability of the universe being devoid of life aside from our own planet. The lack of evidence supporting extraterrestrial life only means we've not been able to conclusively verify it as of this time. With a data set of one instance of a life-bearing planet, you can't really speculate on probability. Really the term probability is being misused here. Even in a vast, potentially infinite universe of your description, the strongest statement you can make that isn't conjecture is that extraterrestrial life is possible. But that's all based on a very superficial framing of the statistics as just "life" vs "no life". There are countless factors that go into making life possible and we have proof of these factors existing elsewhere. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:891449265] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Thompson posted...</cite> <quote>The universe contains millions upon millions of galaxies with hundreds of millions of stars in each, equalling virtually countless solar systems. Therefore, it's reasonable to say that the probability of life on another planet is infinitely higher than the probability of the universe being devoid of life aside from our own planet. The lack of evidence supporting extraterrestrial life only means we've not been able to conclusively verify it as of this time.</quote> With a data set of one instance of a life-bearing planet, you can't really speculate on probability. Really the term probability is being misused here. Even in a vast, potentially infinite universe of your description, the strongest statement you can make that isn't conjecture is that extraterrestrial life is possible.</quote> But that's all based on a very superficial framing of the statistics as just "life" vs "no life". There are countless factors that go into making life possible and we have proof of these factors existing elsewhere.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stevethewindow 12/02/17 10:34:03 AM #82:	weapon_d00d816 posted... stevethewindow posted... Ballstopshere posted... stevethewindow posted... Nope Carbon is Carbon and carbon is on other planets. There is no EVIDENCE for life how do you know carbon is on other planets? Well for starters it's on the moon and on mars How do you know carbon is on planets outside of our solar system? Because it's sixth-most abundant element in the universe. But you are going to argue with actual FACTS I can tell <cite>stevethewindow posted [p:891449277] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ballstopshere posted...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote>Nope Carbon is Carbon and carbon is on other planets. There is no EVIDENCE for life </quote> how do you know carbon is on other planets?</quote> Well for starters it's on the moon and on mars</quote> How do you know carbon is on planets outside of our solar system?</quote> Because it's sixth-most abundant element in the universe. But you are going to argue with actual FACTS I can tell</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 12/02/17 10:36:27 AM #83:	hollow_shrine posted... Thompson posted... The universe contains millions upon millions of galaxies with hundreds of millions of stars in each, equalling virtually countless solar systems. Therefore, it's reasonable to say that the probability of life on another planet is infinitely higher than the probability of the universe being devoid of life aside from our own planet. The lack of evidence supporting extraterrestrial life only means we've not been able to conclusively verify it as of this time. With a data set of one instance of a life-bearing planet, you can't really speculate on probability. Really the term probability is being misused here. Even in a vast, potentially infinite universe of your description, the strongest statement you can make that isn't conjecture is that extraterrestrial life is possible. The data set isn't just life being on one planet tho. It's that life is made of the most common things in the universe and survives in a wide range of conditions. Life being possible on other planets is the weakest claim you can make. Life being on other planets is more likely than not (based on our current understanding) You seem to be ignoring that the "proof" you're Doing for wouldn't suggest life is elsewhere, it would prove life is elsewhere. The data and understanding we have now suggests life is elsewhere, but does not prove it. But unlike TCs trollish claim, no one is claiming it's a fact life exists elsewhere. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:891449370] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Thompson posted...</cite> <quote>The universe contains millions upon millions of galaxies with hundreds of millions of stars in each, equalling virtually countless solar systems. Therefore, it's reasonable to say that the probability of life on another planet is infinitely higher than the probability of the universe being devoid of life aside from our own planet. The lack of evidence supporting extraterrestrial life only means we've not been able to conclusively verify it as of this time.</quote> With a data set of one instance of a life-bearing planet, you can't really speculate on probability. Really the term probability is being misused here. Even in a vast, potentially infinite universe of your description, the strongest statement you can make that isn't conjecture is that extraterrestrial life is possible.</quote> The data set isn't just life being on one planet tho. It's that life is made of the most common things in the universe and survives in a wide range of conditions. Life being possible on other planets is the weakest claim you can make. Life being on other planets is more likely than not (based on our current understanding) You seem to be ignoring that the "proof" you're Doing for wouldn't suggest life is elsewhere, it would prove life is elsewhere. The data and understanding we have now suggests life is elsewhere, but does not prove it. But unlike TCs trollish claim, no one is claiming it's a fact life exists elsewhere.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 12/02/17 10:37:12 AM #84:	stevethewindow posted... weapon_d00d816 posted... stevethewindow posted... Ballstopshere posted... stevethewindow posted... Nope Carbon is Carbon and carbon is on other planets. There is no EVIDENCE for life how do you know carbon is on other planets? Well for starters it's on the moon and on mars How do you know carbon is on planets outside of our solar system? Because it's sixth-most abundant element in the universe. But you are going to argue with actual FACTS I can tell How do you know it's the sixth most abundant element in the universe? Have you traveled the universe and inspected each atom? --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:891449393] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ballstopshere posted...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote>Nope Carbon is Carbon and carbon is on other planets. There is no EVIDENCE for life </quote> how do you know carbon is on other planets?</quote> Well for starters it's on the moon and on mars</quote> How do you know carbon is on planets outside of our solar system?</quote> Because it's sixth-most abundant element in the universe. But you are going to argue with actual FACTS I can tell</quote> How do you know it's the sixth most abundant element in the universe? Have you traveled the universe and inspected each atom?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 12/02/17 10:37:33 AM #85:	stevethewindow posted... weapon_d00d816 posted... stevethewindow posted... Ballstopshere posted... stevethewindow posted... Nope Carbon is Carbon and carbon is on other planets. There is no EVIDENCE for life how do you know carbon is on other planets? Well for starters it's on the moon and on mars How do you know carbon is on planets outside of our solar system? Because it's sixth-most abundant element in the universe. But you are going to argue with actual FACTS I can tell That's not a fact either actually. In the sense that you're arguing anyways. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:891449411] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ballstopshere posted...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote>Nope Carbon is Carbon and carbon is on other planets. There is no EVIDENCE for life </quote> how do you know carbon is on other planets?</quote> Well for starters it's on the moon and on mars</quote> How do you know carbon is on planets outside of our solar system?</quote> Because it's sixth-most abundant element in the universe. But you are going to argue with actual FACTS I can tell</quote> That's not a fact either actually. In the sense that you're arguing anyways.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ballstopshere 12/02/17 10:42:18 AM #86:	If you truly wanna play devils advocate you'd have to assert that life is here because of God. Theres no way you can use science because we take a lot of things based on "scientism" as fact, like the earths iron core that no one has ever seen. <cite>Ballstopshere posted [p:891449591] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>If you truly wanna play devils advocate you'd have to assert that life is here because of God. Theres no way you can use science because we take a lot of things based on "scientism" as fact, like the earths iron core that no one has ever seen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 12/02/17 10:50:01 AM #87:	nicklebro posted... The data set isn't just life being on one planet tho. It's that life is made of the most common things in the universe and survives in a wide range of conditions While a variety of living conditions on the surface of the Earth there is not too big of a difference between those, especially not when compared to the variety of conditions in the rest of the universe, which clearly don't support life. I would say Earth's living conditions fit within a range that we have yet to observe anywhere else in the universe. What I'm also struggling with is the 'data' that suggests that life is likely out there. Is this an extension of the idea that, in a sufficiently large enough universe, there must exist a planet that is essentially identical to our own? Because there is an unprovable assumption here that the universe is 'sufficiently large' and diverse enough for that Goldilocks planet to exist, somewhere. --- Whatever happened to standards? Whatever happened to bare minimums? 15 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:891449863] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>The data set isn't just life being on one planet tho. It's that life is made of the most common things in the universe and survives in a wide range of conditions</quote> While a variety of living conditions on the surface of the Earth there is not too big of a difference between those, especially not when compared to the variety of conditions in the rest of the universe, which clearly don't support life. I would say Earth's living conditions fit within a range that we have yet to observe anywhere else in the universe. What I'm also struggling with is the 'data' that suggests that life is likely out there. Is this an extension of the idea that, in a sufficiently large enough universe, there must exist a planet that is essentially identical to our own? Because there is an unprovable assumption here that the universe is 'sufficiently large' and diverse enough for that Goldilocks planet to exist, somewhere.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stevethewindow 12/02/17 10:51:30 AM #88:	So the end result of all of this is you can't believe what anyone tells you. We are a brain in a jar argument has come through and you can't believe anything. So therefore pointless <cite>stevethewindow posted [p:891449913] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>So the end result of all of this is you can't believe what anyone tells you. We are a brain in a jar argument has come through and you can't believe anything. So therefore pointless</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 12/02/17 10:53:42 AM #89:	Ballstopshere posted... If you truly wanna play devils advocate you'd have to assert that life is here because of God. Please walk us through the logical footsteps that take us from our limited understanding of life to God. This conjecture doesn't follow from our available information. We would need a reason to consider it. --- Whatever happened to standards? Whatever happened to bare minimums? 15 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:891450009] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ballstopshere posted...</cite> <quote>If you truly wanna play devils advocate you'd have to assert that life is here because of God.</quote> Please walk us through the logical footsteps that take us from our limited understanding of life to God. This conjecture doesn't follow from our available information. We would need a reason to consider it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 12/02/17 10:54:20 AM #90:	hollow_shrine posted... I would say Earth's living conditions fit within a range that have yet to observe anywhere else in the universe. You'd be wrong. hollow_shrine posted... What I'm also struggling with is the 'data' that suggests that life is likely out there. Is this an extension of the idea that, in a sufficiently large enough universe, there must exist a planet that is essentially identical to our own? Because there is an unprovable assumption here that the universe is 'sufficiently large' and diverse enough for that Goldilocks planet to exist, somewhere. Doesn't have to be essentially identical. You're totally underestimating the wide range of planets we've discovered, and the wide range of conditions life thrives in on this planet. Seems like you just got some reading to do before you can add to this discussion. The data im referring to is already in this topic, ie the elements that are required for life being abundant and the wide range of conditions it can survive in plus the fact that there's actually 0 evidence to the contrary, which means that even without all this data, at worst it'd be a 50/50 shot. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:891450033] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote> I would say Earth's living conditions fit within a range that have yet to observe anywhere else in the universe.</quote> You'd be wrong. <cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote> What I'm also struggling with is the 'data' that suggests that life is likely out there. Is this an extension of the idea that, in a sufficiently large enough universe, there must exist a planet that is essentially identical to our own? Because there is an unprovable assumption here that the universe is 'sufficiently large' and diverse enough for that Goldilocks planet to exist, somewhere.</quote> Doesn't have to be essentially identical. You're totally underestimating the wide range of planets we've discovered, and the wide range of conditions life thrives in on this planet. Seems like you just got some reading to do before you can add to this discussion. The data im referring to is already in this topic, ie the elements that are required for life being abundant and the wide range of conditions it can survive in plus the fact that there's actually 0 evidence to the contrary, which means that even without all this data, at worst it'd be a 50/50 shot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 12/02/17 10:55:07 AM #91:	It's sad that this topic was controversial. But maybe that's only because TC used the word scientism. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:891450064] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>It's sad that this topic was controversial. But maybe that's only because TC used the word scientism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 12/02/17 10:55:34 AM #92:	stevethewindow posted... So the end result of all of this is you can't believe what anyone tells you. We are a brain in a jar argument has come through and you can't believe anything. So therefore pointless Well that's the end result for anyone who thinks like you do. The rest of us just use logic. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:891450081] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote>So the end result of all of this is you can't believe what anyone tells you. We are a brain in a jar argument has come through and you can't believe anything. So therefore pointless</quote> Well that's the end result for anyone who thinks like you do. The rest of us just use logic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stevethewindow 12/02/17 10:55:37 AM #93:	nicklebro posted... hollow_shrine posted... I would say Earth's living conditions fit within a range that have yet to observe anywhere else in the universe. You'd be wrong. hollow_shrine posted... What I'm also struggling with is the 'data' that suggests that life is likely out there. Is this an extension of the idea that, in a sufficiently large enough universe, there must exist a planet that is essentially identical to our own? Because there is an unprovable assumption here that the universe is 'sufficiently large' and diverse enough for that Goldilocks planet to exist, somewhere. Doesn't have to be essentially identical. You're totally underestimating the wide range of planets we've discovered, and the wide range of conditions life thrives in on this planet. Seems like you just got some reading to do before you can add to this discussion. The data im referring to is already in this topic, ie the elements that are required for life being abundant and the wide range of conditions it can survive in plus the fact that there's actually 0 evidence to the contrary, which means that even without all this data, at worst it'd be a 50/50 shot. 50/50 means nothing. Cat in the box. Could be either <cite>stevethewindow posted [p:891450084] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote> I would say Earth's living conditions fit within a range that have yet to observe anywhere else in the universe.</quote> You'd be wrong. <cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote> What I'm also struggling with is the 'data' that suggests that life is likely out there. Is this an extension of the idea that, in a sufficiently large enough universe, there must exist a planet that is essentially identical to our own? Because there is an unprovable assumption here that the universe is 'sufficiently large' and diverse enough for that Goldilocks planet to exist, somewhere.</quote> Doesn't have to be essentially identical. You're totally underestimating the wide range of planets we've discovered, and the wide range of conditions life thrives in on this planet. Seems like you just got some reading to do before you can add to this discussion. The data im referring to is already in this topic, ie the elements that are required for life being abundant and the wide range of conditions it can survive in plus the fact that there's actually 0 evidence to the contrary, which means that even without all this data, at worst it'd be a 50/50 shot.</quote> 50/50 means nothing. Cat in the box. Could be either</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stevethewindow 12/02/17 10:56:18 AM #94:	nicklebro posted... stevethewindow posted... So the end result of all of this is you can't believe what anyone tells you. We are a brain in a jar argument has come through and you can't believe anything. So therefore pointless Well that's the end result for anyone who thinks like you do. The rest of us just use Marvel Movies. <cite>stevethewindow posted [p:891450118] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote>So the end result of all of this is you can't believe what anyone tells you. We are a brain in a jar argument has come through and you can't believe anything. So therefore pointless</quote> Well that's the end result for anyone who thinks like you do. The rest of us just use Marvel Movies.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 12/02/17 10:57:19 AM #95:	stevethewindow posted... nicklebro posted... hollow_shrine posted... I would say Earth's living conditions fit within a range that have yet to observe anywhere else in the universe. You'd be wrong. hollow_shrine posted... What I'm also struggling with is the 'data' that suggests that life is likely out there. Is this an extension of the idea that, in a sufficiently large enough universe, there must exist a planet that is essentially identical to our own? Because there is an unprovable assumption here that the universe is 'sufficiently large' and diverse enough for that Goldilocks planet to exist, somewhere. Doesn't have to be essentially identical. You're totally underestimating the wide range of planets we've discovered, and the wide range of conditions life thrives in on this planet. Seems like you just got some reading to do before you can add to this discussion. The data im referring to is already in this topic, ie the elements that are required for life being abundant and the wide range of conditions it can survive in plus the fact that there's actually 0 evidence to the contrary, which means that even without all this data, at worst it'd be a 50/50 shot. 50/50 means nothing. Cat in the box. Could be either Yeah... Read that post again. You're making no sense. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:891450146] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>stevethewindow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote> I would say Earth's living conditions fit within a range that have yet to observe anywhere else in the universe.</quote> You'd be wrong. <cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote> What I'm also struggling with is the 'data' that suggests that life is likely out there. Is this an extension of the idea that, in a sufficiently large enough universe, there must exist a planet that is essentially identical to our own? Because there is an unprovable assumption here that the universe is 'sufficiently large' and diverse enough for that Goldilocks planet to exist, somewhere.</quote> Doesn't have to be essentially identical. You're totally underestimating the wide range of planets we've discovered, and the wide range of conditions life thrives in on this planet. Seems like you just got some reading to do before you can add to this discussion. The data im referring to is already in this topic, ie the elements that are required for life being abundant and the wide range of conditions it can survive in plus the fact that there's actually 0 evidence to the contrary, which means that even without all this data, at worst it'd be a 50/50 shot.</quote> 50/50 means nothing. Cat in the box. Could be either</quote> Yeah... Read that post again. You're making no sense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 12/02/17 10:57:52 AM #96:	Lol just equated logic with marvel movies, but isn't trolling. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:891450182] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>Lol just equated logic with marvel movies, but isn't trolling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stevethewindow 12/02/17 11:00:21 AM #97:	nicklebro posted... Lol just equated logic with marvel movies, but isn't trolling. It's how you all sound. There is zero proof... zero. <cite>stevethewindow posted [p:891450269] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>Lol just equated logic with marvel movies, but isn't trolling.</quote> It's how you all sound. There is zero proof... zero.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ballstopshere 12/02/17 11:01:25 AM #98:	hollow_shrine posted... Ballstopshere posted... If you truly wanna play devils advocate you'd have to assert that life is here because of God. Please walk us through the logical footsteps that take us from our limited understanding of life to God. This conjecture doesn't follow from our available information. We would need a reason to consider it. I think we understand life pretty well, what we don't understand is consciousness, and just like in the past we can assign things we don't understand to be the work of god. <cite>Ballstopshere posted [p:891450315] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ballstopshere posted...</cite> <quote>If you truly wanna play devils advocate you'd have to assert that life is here because of God.</quote> Please walk us through the logical footsteps that take us from our limited understanding of life to God. This conjecture doesn't follow from our available information. We would need a reason to consider it.</quote> I think we understand life pretty well, what we don't understand is consciousness, and just like in the past we can assign things we don't understand to be the work of god.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 12/02/17 11:02:43 AM #99:	nicklebro posted... Lol just equated logic with marvel movies, but isn't trolling. If marvel movies are written well, they can be completley logically consistent. But they're not real. Logical consistency is not the same thing as scientific evidence. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:891450362] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>Lol just equated logic with marvel movies, but isn't trolling.</quote> If marvel movies are written well, they can be completley logically consistent. But they're not real. Logical consistency is not the same thing as scientific evidence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 12/02/17 11:03:40 AM #100:	There's no hard evidence but the laws of statistics dictate there has to be given the vastness of the universe. --- Oda break tracker 2017- 9 (3) \| THE Ohio State: 8-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 4-5 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:891450395] in There is n... [t:76053708]...</cite> <quote>There's no hard evidence but the laws of statistics dictate there has to be given the vastness of the universe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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