Current Events > Should I trade in my launch PS4 towards a Pro?

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I can trade it in for $150 so the Pro upgrade would be $250. I just got a 4k TV. I'm also pretty interested in HDR which my launch system doesn't support.
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Yes

If you have the money to upgrade and the TV you should go for it.
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I'm surprised launch systems can get you $150 since a new Slim is like $190.
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I own a pro and honestly it's not a big difference when you're playing a game. It's better, but idk if I would pay the extra money if I needed to make the choice again.
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unless you want sony vr, a pro makes no sense to me. the decision to not have 4k bluray support is so stupid.
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I have a pro and a 4k tv.
Some games it's a huge difference, others not so much.
Either way, do it. The value of your launch ps4 will only go down from here.
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might as well get an xbox one x. it can play 4k discs

AlternativeFAQS posted...

might as well get an xbox one x. it can play 4k discs

They let me add a Samsung 4k player for half price which was $60. No way I'd spend $500 for something with no games just to play 4k Blu-ray's lol.
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I bought a One X, which is technically superior hardware to the Pro, and Id say not to bother on the mid gen upgrade consoles.

Unless you have an amazing TV setup it wont make that much of a difference, and the performance increases on the Pro are not that great. If it made every game run at 60fps or something Id rush out to get it but all youre going to get is slightly prettier graphics. Who cares? I already have a little buyers remorse
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You guys are looking at this solely from the perspective of "Is the Pro worth it"? That's not the only thing in play here.

For $250 you get a new, more reliable and better console, with a new warranty, and a new controller. I'd take it.
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I don't care as much about the raw pixel count but from what I hear HDR is a pretty big deal. I've never seen any HDR content before so I don't know how big of a deal it actually is.

Plus like Bio said, getting a new controller would be a plus because my current one is getting a bit worn out in terms of grip and stuff. Plus I haven't changed the HDD or gotten an external yet so jumping from 500GB to 1TB would be pretty good.
Also when under full load the fan starts whining kinda loudly and I'm not sure if it'll possibly go out. I doubt they'll put it under full load to realize that though.
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PS4 pro is straight trash, 1x or pc or bust. Dont pay for a half assed upgrade, pro is a lazy ass money grab tbh
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GbanyaGanja43 posted...

PS4 pro is straight trash, 1x or pc or bust. Dont pay for a half assed upgrade, pro is a lazy ass money grab tbh

Would it be worth $150 to get a Slim for HDR? Because I feel like that point I might as well spend the extra $100.

Xbox is useless because it doesn't have any games and doesn't offer the best experience, which if I cared about that I'd be going PC.
Things like contrast, color accuracy, and things of that nature I do care a lot about though, which is why I'm interested in HDR.
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Trade it in towards a slim
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PS4 Pro is trash. Not worth the $250 with your trade in. Just stick with what you have and get an Xbox One X additionally if anything. Not like either have a solid spring lineup, let alone a winter 2017 one lol
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xBloodBrotherx posted...

GbanyaGanja43 posted...

PS4 pro is straight trash, 1x or pc or bust. Dont pay for a half assed upgrade, pro is a lazy ass money grab tbh

Would it be worth $150 to get a Slim for HDR? Because I feel like that point I might as well spend the extra $100.

Xbox is useless because it doesn't have any games and doesn't offer the best experience, which if I cared about that I'd be going PC.
Things like contrast, color accuracy, and things of that nature I do care a lot about though, which is why I'm interested in HDR.

You mean it doesnt have Japanese trash that only internet nerds play, and a few naughty dog titles? Sure.

While you plebs continue saying Xbox has no games, Im chuckling while playing the same games normal people play on PlayStation ie Wolfenstein II, Shadow of War, AC origins, CoD WWII, in real 4K HDR on something thats actually has a noticeable upgrade from an original console. When Im done, maybe Ill watch John Wick II in 4K HDR too since my console wasnt a cheap money grab and has a 4K blu ray player in it. Stay salty $ony fanboys
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I don't think any of those run in real 4K
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GbanyaGanja43 posted...

xBloodBrotherx posted...

GbanyaGanja43 posted...

PS4 pro is straight trash, 1x or pc or bust. Dont pay for a half assed upgrade, pro is a lazy ass money grab tbh

Would it be worth $150 to get a Slim for HDR? Because I feel like that point I might as well spend the extra $100.

Xbox is useless because it doesn't have any games and doesn't offer the best experience, which if I cared about that I'd be going PC.
Things like contrast, color accuracy, and things of that nature I do care a lot about though, which is why I'm interested in HDR.

You mean it doesnt have Japanese trash that only internet nerds play, and a few naughty dog titles? Sure.

While you plebs continue saying Xbox has no games, Im chuckling while playing the same games normal people play on PlayStation ie Wolfenstein II, Shadow of War, AC origins, CoD WWII, in real 4K HDR on something thats actually has a noticeable upgrade from an original console. When Im done, maybe Ill watch John Wick II in 4K HDR too since my console wasnt a cheap money grab and has a 4K blu ray player in it. Stay salty $ony fanboys

I don't like Japanese shit at all lmao. And the Xbox literally has no games anymore, there all on PC. The ones that aren't like Halo 5 are among the worst in the series to date and shit all over the greatness of 2 and 3 for example.
It's funny you mention CoD WWII since the DLC for it comes to PlayStation first lol. If I cared about raw pixel count I'd just go for PC instead of half assing it with an Xbox that can't even maintain 30fps in Assassin's Creed cutscenes. And I got a 4k player for $60 that I can put in the cramped space under my TV without having to worry about it toasting, it's hardly worth getting a $500 Xbox for...
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xBloodBrotherx posted...

It's funny you mention CoD WWII since the DLC for it comes to PlayStation first lol.

lmfao

I wouldn't bother, honestly.
Out of the half-step systems the One X seems like the better option, but I don't think either of them are great. I bought a XB1S after the 1X was released and pretty happy with that decision.

If you want 4k for real, PC > XB1X > PS4P
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Sonic Cannon posted...

I wouldn't bother, honestly.
Out of the half-step systems the One X seems like the better option, but I don't think either of them are great. I bought a XB1S after the 1X was released and pretty happy with that decision.

If you want 4k for real, PC > XB1X > PS4P

except you'll pay a lot more for similar specs to the x1x

AlternativeFAQS posted...

Sonic Cannon posted...

I wouldn't bother, honestly.
Out of the half-step systems the One X seems like the better option, but I don't think either of them are great. I bought a XB1S after the 1X was released and pretty happy with that decision.

If you want 4k for real, PC > XB1X > PS4P

except you'll pay a lot more for similar specs to the x1x

no you won't if you research before you buy
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ok well every media outlet disagrees with you

every media outlet have acted like consoles are impressively powerful for decades

you were just bragging about pubg being 60fps as if thats a feat of nature, and it wasn't even true lmao
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AlternativeFAQS posted...

Sonic Cannon posted...

I wouldn't bother, honestly.
Out of the half-step systems the One X seems like the better option, but I don't think either of them are great. I bought a XB1S after the 1X was released and pretty happy with that decision.

If you want 4k for real, PC > XB1X > PS4P

except you'll pay a lot more for similar specs to the x1x

For a PC that's equivalent to xb1x? Yeah probably. Especially if you need all the extras like case, OS, peipherals, etc.
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metralo posted...

every media outlet have acted like consoles are impressively powerful for decades

you were just bragging about pubg being 60fps as if thats a feat of nature, and it wasn't even true lmao

ok so please disprove me

metralo posted...

AlternativeFAQS posted...

Sonic Cannon posted...

I wouldn't bother, honestly.
Out of the half-step systems the One X seems like the better option, but I don't think either of them are great. I bought a XB1S after the 1X was released and pretty happy with that decision.

If you want 4k for real, PC > XB1X > PS4P

except you'll pay a lot more for similar specs to the x1x

no you won't if you research before you buy

A PC running the same specs as an Xbox One X would be more than $500. And that's not including monitor, keyboard, mouse, peripherals, etc.
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I traded in my launch PS4 towards a Pro a few months ago. They were giving $150 + $50 for their reward system people so I only paid $200 for a Pro. Was worth it.
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Smashingpmkns posted...

metralo posted...

AlternativeFAQS posted...

Sonic Cannon posted...

I wouldn't bother, honestly.
Out of the half-step systems the One X seems like the better option, but I don't think either of them are great. I bought a XB1S after the 1X was released and pretty happy with that decision.

If you want 4k for real, PC > XB1X > PS4P

except you'll pay a lot more for similar specs to the x1x

no you won't if you research before you buy

A PC running the same specs as an Xbox One X would be more than $500. And that's not including monitor, keyboard, mouse, peripherals, etc.

You can't even do a 1:1 build because the CPU is so bad there isn't even a desktop chip on the market from current gen that's as bad as it is. You'd have to buy used parts from years ago and if you did just throwing a RX 480 in there for whatever they're going for right now, miners have pricing fucked.

And lol at counting a monitor, I guess I'll add a grand to the Xbox for a TV, because you totally can't connect a PC to a TV... And you can get a basic kb/m together for like $20-30 that's fine unless you're a professional typer or gamer. which is less than a new Xbox controller. And if you do want a more professional kb/m you can get some good shit for like $100 total, if you want the professional controller that'll cost you an extra $150 and has poor QA. Not to mention the cost of XBL. the base made it 5 years, let's assume the X makes it 5 years that's another $300 to use a basic feature that's free on PC plus getting a handful of games you actually care about in that time and a ton of shit you couldn't care less about. On PC that $300 could've gone towards better hardware or simply buying those handful of games you actually wanted on a Steam sale and then having tons left over.
Not to mention the other benefits like real mods on any game, legitimately backwards and forwards compatibility instead of just select titles that run at an improved 720p/30fps from last gen when you could be running it at 4k/60fps on modern hardware.
I could literally just get a few old prebuilt and slap a 480 or even 1070+ for the cost of the X.

The 4k player is nice though, but you don't need an X for that,the S is fine and basic UHD players are cheaper now anyways.
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hmm no not even including peripherals

These fucking nerds
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Error1355 posted...

I traded in my launch PS4 towards a Pro a few months ago. They were giving $150 + $50 for their reward system people so I only paid $200 for a Pro. Was worth it.

This is exactly what I did last week. Pro is $500 in Canada but it was on sale for $100 off, and they were giving $200 credit for OG PS4s and Slims. I had other credit too so I paid $120+tax for the Pro. Also came with a digital copy of Horizon ZD and Sony just put $10 in my wallet >_>
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RockRapDubstep posted...

Smashingpmkns posted...

metralo posted...

AlternativeFAQS posted...

Sonic Cannon posted...

I wouldn't bother, honestly.
Out of the half-step systems the One X seems like the better option, but I don't think either of them are great. I bought a XB1S after the 1X was released and pretty happy with that decision.

If you want 4k for real, PC > XB1X > PS4P

except you'll pay a lot more for similar specs to the x1x

no you won't if you research before you buy

A PC running the same specs as an Xbox One X would be more than $500. And that's not including monitor, keyboard, mouse, peripherals, etc.

You can't even do a 1:1 build because the CPU is so bad there isn't even a desktop chip on the market from current gen that's as bad as it is. You'd have to buy used parts from years ago and if you did just throwing a RX 480 in there for whatever they're going for right now, miners have pricing fucked.

And lol at counting a monitor, I guess I'll add a grand to the Xbox for a TV, because you totally can't connect a PC to a TV... And you can get a basic kb/m together for like $20-30 that's fine unless you're a professional typer or gamer. which is less than a new Xbox controller. And if you do want a more professional kb/m you can get some good shit for like $100 total, if you want the professional controller that'll cost you an extra $150 and has poor QA. Not to mention the cost of XBL. the base made it 5 years, let's assume the X makes it 5 years that's another $300 to use a basic feature that's free on PC plus getting a handful of games you actually care about in that time and a ton of shit you couldn't care less about. On PC that $300 could've gone towards better hardware or simply buying those handful of games you actually wanted on a Steam sale and then having tons left over.
Not to mention the other benefits like real mods on any game, legitimately backwards and forwards compatibility instead of just select titles that run at an improved 720p/30fps from last gen when you could be running it at 4k/60fps on modern hardware.
I could literally just get a few old prebuilt and slap a 480 or even 1070+ for the cost of the X.

The 4k player is nice though, but you don't need an X for that,the S is fine and basic UHD players are cheaper now anyways.

Wut. Why wouldnt you consider the monitor? Most people have a TV. If you're getting a gaming PC for the first time you won't have a monitor. That adds to the cost. Setting up a computer connected to a TV is rarely done for someone's first PC, it's not practical in terms of space and quality. Are any of your PCs connected to your TV instead of a monitor? Consoles come with controllers. You're spending over $500 on just whatever parts you need to build the PC, and extra $200 for a monitor, $100 for a keyboard, and $60 for a mouse. It ends up being well over $500.
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If you're going that route a lot of people already have plenty of the basic PC stuff such as a monitor, keyboard and mouse
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DarthAragorn posted...

you have a 4k monitor laying around?

AlternativeFAQS posted...

DarthAragorn posted...

you have a 4k monitor laying around?

Do most people have a 4K TV laying around?
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im not trying to count tvs and monitors. although I'd count a keyboard and mouse since consoles come with a controller

DarthAragorn posted...

If you're going that route a lot of people already have plenty of the basic PC stuff such as a monitor, keyboard and mouse

Lol what is the point of building a gaming PC if you're going to use shit peripherals? So you save money but you get a worse experience than you would if you were to spend less money on a console? I thought the whole argument behind building a PC was for a better gaming experience? No matter what somewhere down the line you will need to upgrade your peripherals, you can use a launch controller for a console for its entire life span.
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Smashingpmkns posted...

Wut. Why wouldnt you consider the monitor? Most people have a TV. If you're getting a gaming PC for the first time you won't have a monitor. That adds to the cost. Setting up a computer connected to a TV is rarely done for someone's first PC, it's not practical in terms of space and quality. Are any of your PCs connected to your TV instead of a monitor? Consoles come with controllers. You're spending over $500 on just whatever parts you need to build the PC, and extra $200 for a monitor, $100 for a keyboard, and $60 for a mouse. It ends up being well over $500.

Because you don't need a monitor... You need a monitor for a gaming PC bas much as you do for a console, unless you're specifically trying to get into high refresh rates over resolution. If you wanted to you could just connect a 360/One controller and leave Steam in console mode... But of course you don't have to do that, you can just change icon size, text scaling, and you're good to go. It's not a big deal.
And yeah my primary PC experience is through my TV, HTPC's are a thing... And need to spend $160 on a kb/m about as badly as you "need" to spend $150 on the Elite controller. Arguably even less. Ntm you could just use a controller like I said. And most people don't have a 4k TV either, and if you do there's nothing stopping you from using it with your TV problem free unless you got a tiny TV and sit a mile aways, which would make the 4k pointless anyways.
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Smashingpmkns posted...

you can use a launch controller for a console for its entire life span.

you could use it even longer than the consoles lifespan on PC
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RockRapDubstep posted...

Because you don't need a monitor... You need a monitor for a gaming PC bas much as you do for a console, unless you're specifically trying to get into high refresh rates over resolution

well we're discussing making a PC equivalent to an xbox one x, which displays in 4k

Smashingpmkns posted...

$100 for a keyboard,

no
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AlternativeFAQS posted...

RockRapDubstep posted...

Because you don't need a monitor... You need a monitor for a gaming PC bas much as you do for a console, unless you're specifically trying to get into high refresh rates over resolution

well we're discussing making a PC equivalent to an xbox one x, which displays in 4k

I know, which is why I'm saying you don't need a monitor and your TV is fine... That's the point...
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Sounds like you have to give up a huge amount of the experience AND you'd still be spending more than $500. Might as well say the cost of the tower doesn't count either.

Most living situations don't accommodate an appropriate PC to TV set up. Either way, even without the monitor you're still spending over $500 for an Xbox One X quality PC. Which if you're building a PC and you're settling for console quality, wtf is even the point?
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Smashingpmkns posted...

Sounds like you have to give up a huge amount of the experience AND you'd still be spending more than $500. Might as well say the cost of the tower doesn't count either.

Most living situations don't accommodate an appropriate PC to TV set up. Either way, even without the monitor you're still spending over $500 for an Xbox One X quality PC. Which if you're building a PC and you're settling for console quality, wtf is even the point?

How is playing a game on a 4k TV with a PC or an Xbox any different in game?
Of course the cost of a tower costs, but to say a TV counts for a console but not for a PC is dumb. You're grossly overestimating the cost of a kb/m as well. Plus if you're trying to count a monitor because a TV arbitrarily isn't good enough, you have to could the $300 over the estimated lifespan of it just to be able to play online, which let's be real, most people have it only because it's required for online. It could be the exact same price and drop every other feature and there'd barely be a dent in sub count. Occasionally getting w half decent game is nice and all, but with PC you don't have to play a lottery to hopefully get a good game you don't have yet, you can just buy what you want on sale for less than console game prices.
Even if a game was running at the exact same resolution, settings, and framerate and using a controller, the PC would still be the superior experience short term with mod support and such as well as long term with having a game that'll scale with your hardware and will be completely forwards compatible and able to use the extra power you have then instead of it being like the 360 bc where it's like here's the same low res, shitty locked framerate 360 version, but we have it some AA and made the 30fps more stable! Meanwhile most of those games could be played in 4k with a higher refresh rate without needing any patches or updates, as well as having access to graphics overhaul mods and stuff to make it look even better if you want as well as the PC having the other benefits of being a PC. You can choose to get a monitor if you want and even then you could decide you want 144hz, an ultrawide, or just regular 4k monitor and work with how you the user want to play. With Xbox it's like "we'll decide for you, and I choose 4k with an unstable 30fps, when you might prefer to drop some settings or the resolution slightly in favor of a higher framerate.
You get that choice for how you consume your games.

If that's something you care about then you shouldn't be getting an Xbox One X, you should get the better platform with more games, which is PC, and if it's not something you care about then just get the system with more and better games, which is the PS4 or Switch.
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xBloodBrotherx posted...

I'm also pretty interested in HDR which my launch system doesn't support.

All ps4s support hdr via update. You need a new HDMI 2.0 cable or whatever to actually use it though.
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That seems like a good deal tbh. It's no loss since your library carries over anyway.

Ignore the Xbox One X and PC clowns. Trading in a PS4 for an Xbox One X would be a dumb move this late in the generation and PC isn't really relevant to your scenario.
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Smashingpmkns posted...

Wut. Why wouldnt you consider the monitor? Most people have a TV. If you're getting a gaming PC for the first time you won't have a monitor. That adds to the cost. Setting up a computer connected to a TV is rarely done for someone's first PC, it's not practical in terms of space and quality. Are any of your PCs connected to your TV instead of a monitor?

I built my first PC last year, and assembled it in a mITX case, so that I could put it in my TV unit (don't have space for a desk where I live). When I play games on it I mostly use a controller, and I use a Logitech K830 keyboard. If I need mouse for a game, I have a Logitech G403 prodigy wireless, and find something stable to use for the mouse surface.
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