Poll of the Day > Kid writes letter about spending over $10,000 on MicroTransactions...

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pionear
12/04/17 3:27:51 PM
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Smarkil
12/04/17 3:31:13 PM
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lmao what a fuckin idiot
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Dikitain
12/04/17 3:33:21 PM
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Sounds more like a problem with him then with the system. I have said and remain by the statement that if you don't like it, don't support it. If companies don't make money off of it, then it will go away.
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Doctor Foxx
12/04/17 3:35:00 PM
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Gambling with cash transactions shouldn't be in games for children or in the games that children are allowed to play.
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Cruddy_horse
12/04/17 3:35:56 PM
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Smarkil posted...
lmao what a fuckin idiot


This, it's people like this who are partly responsible for ruining the industry. At least he's trying to better himself now I suppose.

I really don't get how hard it is to not buy Microtransactions like that though, I get addicted to things easily and can feel the lure of Microtransactions sometimes but seriously?
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funkyfritter
12/04/17 3:42:35 PM
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Gambling addiction is scary business.
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MICHALECOLE
12/04/17 3:49:54 PM
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There was this guy that I used to work with.. decent friend, in my fantasy football league. Anyways, I was talking about Pokmon go when it first came out and was like you play that? And hes like nah I only play one game on the phone. Its like a clash of clans type game. Im like, I cant get into those because I would never spend money on things like that and hes like oh Im obsessed with it.

Shows me his consecutive log ins and hes at about 450 days straight and Im like damn thats pretty impressive. Then hes like yeah Ive spent about nine grand on this game and Im like shut the fuck up youre lying. And hes like no seriously

I grab a couple other dudes and am just in disbelief like THIS IDIOT HAS DROPPED 9 GRAND ON A CELL PHONE GAME and we all laugh at him.

Later in the week I start to feel bad, I totally bullied him, I was just so shocked. I tell him Im sorry and hes like no youre right. Im done playing that game. Havent logged in the past two days, losing my consecutive login streak. He hasnt played the game since (to my knowledge)

My bullying saved him
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Kungfu Kenobi
12/04/17 3:51:10 PM
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Dikitain posted...
if you don't like it, don't support it. If companies don't make money off of it, then it will go away.


That attitude breaks down when you have a fraction of a fraction putting ten grand into a single title. We've reached a point where games are platforms for reaching those people. It doesn't matter if most of us take a principled stance, because these systems are designed with the knowing intent that they will ruffle the feathers of most people.
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DarkKirby2500
12/04/17 3:51:36 PM
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Gaming publishers basically want to run casinos without any gambling regulation.
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Veedrock-
12/04/17 3:53:46 PM
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"Kid."

Dude's 19.
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GrimCyclone
12/04/17 3:56:03 PM
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Please help me stop doing things that are bad for me. To do this youll have to hurt everyone elses freedom to govern their own lives. Sorry.

#TooWeakToBeFree
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dedbus
12/04/17 3:57:24 PM
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Cruddy_horse posted...
Smarkil posted...
lmao what a fuckin idiot


This, it's people like this who are partly responsible for ruining the industry. At least he's trying to better himself now I suppose.

I really don't get how hard it is to not buy Microtransactions like that though, I get addicted to things easily and can feel the lure of Microtransactions sometimes but seriously?


Some people are just more prone to that. On one hand I have no desire to spend a penny on crates, while you can see, or feel the coercion. That's just two shades of the spectrum right there and while I think we're doing alright, some don't have any inhibition and don't understand the damage their doing until it's catastrophic and they are completely destroyed.

And there is no real help right now for them, like you'd get with gambling addiction. The politics are still being worked out but right now there's really nothing stopping the onslaught against these people, where as bud Weiser would be heavily frowned upon for bringing a case of bud lite to an aa meeting.
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Dikitain
12/04/17 3:59:31 PM
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Kungfu Kenobi posted...
Dikitain posted...
if you don't like it, don't support it. If companies don't make money off of it, then it will go away.


That attitude breaks down when you have a fraction of a fraction putting ten grand into a single title. We've reached a point where games are platforms for reaching those people. It doesn't matter if most of us take a principled stance, because these systems are designed with the knowing intent that they will ruffle the feathers of most people.

That is like saying because a fraction of a fraction of men can't control themselves when they see a woman in a mini skirt that women should never wear mini skirts. Hell, even the "ruffle the feathers" stance fits in as well given most of the social media stance on dress codes nowadays.

They are doing it to make money, and if they stop making money then they will stop doing it. This is literally the fault of the kid and/or his parents, not the company that is implementing micro-transactions.
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LeetCheet
12/04/17 4:04:27 PM
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You could buy a brand new car for that money.
Geez.
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Jen0125
12/04/17 4:21:39 PM
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LeetCheet posted...
You could buy a brand new car for that money.
Geez.


what kind of car can you buy brand new for 10k?
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Doctor Foxx
12/04/17 4:24:42 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
LeetCheet posted...
You could buy a brand new car for that money.
Geez.


what kind of car can you buy brand new for 10k?

A Nissan Micra maybe?
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JOExHIGASHI
12/04/17 4:30:04 PM
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if he has a part time job he could have payed for it all himself. 10,000 in 6 years isn't that much if you're a teenager living with your parents
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Kimbos_Egg
12/04/17 4:39:48 PM
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Dikitain posted...
Sounds more like a problem with him then with the system. I have said and remain by the statement that if you don't like it, don't support it. If companies don't make money off of it, then it will go away.


The "system" is made to exploit people like him.

Same with drugs. Or gambling.
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helIy
12/04/17 4:44:25 PM
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Dikitain posted...
Sounds more like a problem with him then with the system. I have said and remain by the statement that if you don't like it, don't support it. If companies don't make money off of it, then it will go away.

yep.

remember that online pass bullshit?

it lasted, what, two months?
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Amuseum
12/04/17 4:53:27 PM
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the trend now is for game publishers to continue with theses exploitative models. but you guys just love them locking progress behind pay2win, right? like people just loved how BF2 basically halted your progress until you shell out exorbitant of money. but you're also fine with this kind of extortion in your games, i guess.
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Questionmarktarius
12/04/17 4:55:00 PM
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How does a 13-year-old even get a credit card?
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Veedrock-
12/04/17 4:55:28 PM
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Amuseum posted...

Who are you talking to
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ZiggiStardust
12/04/17 4:55:58 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
How does a 13-year-old even get a credit card?

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Kimbos_Egg
12/04/17 6:19:04 PM
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helIy posted...
Dikitain posted...
Sounds more like a problem with him then with the system. I have said and remain by the statement that if you don't like it, don't support it. If companies don't make money off of it, then it will go away.

yep.

remember that online pass bullshit?

it lasted, what, two months?


4-5 years more like
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Kungfu Kenobi
12/04/17 6:19:57 PM
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Dikitain posted...
They are doing it to make money, and if they stop making money then they will stop doing it.


Yes, and?

How does a majority of people taking a principled stance against this business model help with the small number of people willing to put five-figures into a single title?

I don't think you've thought through the economic scale.
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DirtBasedSoap
12/04/17 6:21:25 PM
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i dont think people that stupid should be allowed to have money
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Mead
12/04/17 6:53:14 PM
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A fool and his money are soon parted.
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thedeerzord
12/04/17 7:35:26 PM
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Veedrock- posted...
"Kid."

Dude's 19.

Hes been doing since he was 14
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Dikitain
12/04/17 7:53:30 PM
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Kungfu Kenobi posted...
Dikitain posted...
They are doing it to make money, and if they stop making money then they will stop doing it.


Yes, and?

How does a majority of people taking a principled stance against this business model help with the small number of people willing to put five-figures into a single title?

I don't think you've thought through the economic scale.

It doesn't, and it doesn't need to because those people are insignificant to the bigger picture.

GTA Online makes more money in a day then most games make in their lifetimes. And the reason they do it is because they have this business model. It isn't because they are exploiting a few gambling addicts, it is because it works for them. A handful of people aren't spending millions of dollars a day on one game, it is literally millions of people spending a few dollars here and there. That is what makes this model work, not a few people who don't know how to spend money properly.
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Rockies
12/04/17 7:54:19 PM
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I don't think I've ever spent much more than $100 on a single game. I probably haven't even spent $10,000 lifetime on gaming, including consoles and accessories
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SusanGreenEyes
12/04/17 10:50:34 PM
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ZiggiStardust posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
How does a 13-year-old even get a credit card?

He didn't.
I'm assuming that his parents didn't put a password on their account.
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BlackScythe0
12/04/17 10:53:38 PM
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Well EA just started the movement to make them illegal.

Should have happened a long time ago, the loot box bull shit is online gambling with real money, which is illegal double illegal for minors.
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Kungfu Kenobi
12/04/17 10:59:28 PM
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Dikitain posted...
Kungfu Kenobi posted...
Dikitain posted...
They are doing it to make money, and if they stop making money then they will stop doing it.


Yes, and?

How does a majority of people taking a principled stance against this business model help with the small number of people willing to put five-figures into a single title?

I don't think you've thought through the economic scale.

It doesn't, and it doesn't need to because those people are insignificant to the bigger picture.


Where are you getting this shit?
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LeetCheet
12/04/17 11:57:53 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Jen0125 posted...
LeetCheet posted...
You could buy a brand new car for that money.
Geez.


what kind of car can you buy brand new for 10k?

A Nissan Micra maybe?


Ok maybe not a brand new car but you could at least buy a decent one with that money.
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Conner4REAL
12/05/17 12:07:37 AM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Gambling with cash transactions shouldn't be in games for children or in the games that children are allowed to play.


Can't make a purchase without a credit card....
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Doctor Foxx
12/05/17 12:12:03 AM
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Conner4REAL posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
Gambling with cash transactions shouldn't be in games for children or in the games that children are allowed to play.


Can't make a purchase without a credit card....

Yeah you can.

Have you been into a convenience store like 711? Or a big box store like Walmart? There are racks of cards for in game purchases. I always wondered who would need a game card to steam or league of legends and yeah it's children. And those cards are very easily accessible.
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Kungfu Kenobi
12/05/17 12:37:03 AM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Conner4REAL posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
Gambling with cash transactions shouldn't be in games for children or in the games that children are allowed to play.


Can't make a purchase without a credit card....

Yeah you can.

Have you been into a convenience store like 711? Or a big box store like Walmart? There are racks of cards for in game purchases. I always wondered who would need a game card to steam or league of legends and yeah it's children. And those cards are very easily accessible.


Or for that matter Visa/Mastercard gift-cards that function almost identically to regular credit cards. Including being accepted by age verification systems.
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maizemaize
12/05/17 1:10:04 AM
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pionear posted...
https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/310673/Teen_who_spent_10k_on_microtransactions_warns_devs_of_the_risk_they_pose.php

Over a Six YEar period...


This kid needs some strokes of cane.
Set aside children rights.
Go to an oak tree, pull a thin twig.
Expose the kids palm, and flog the kid 10 times for wasting parents' money
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Zeus
12/05/17 1:16:16 AM
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Cruddy_horse posted...
This, it's people like this who are partly responsible for ruining the industry


Because he buys mtx?
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zhangliao1
12/05/17 1:59:21 AM
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Zeus posted...
Cruddy_horse posted...
This, it's people like this who are partly responsible for ruining the industry


Because he buys mtx?

yes because if he didn't then the games wouldn't be cut up for mtx in the first place
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Lil69Leo
12/05/17 3:09:07 AM
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Veedrock- posted...
"Kid."

Dude's 19.


Was 14 at the time.
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Foppe
12/05/17 5:20:02 AM
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I blame the Canadian Devil.
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Dikitain
12/05/17 8:03:51 AM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
I always wondered who would need a game card to steam or league of legends and yeah it's children.

Or people who don't want to use their credit card online.

I don't use them for Steam specifically, but for things like PSN or Nintendo Store (basically anything that doesn't allow you to use PayPal) then I use them.
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Fam_Fam
12/05/17 8:07:28 AM
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there are peopel who spend much more on much worse things. not a big deal, if he can reasonably afford it (he/his family, really)
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Veedrock-
12/05/17 8:42:31 AM
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SusanGreenEyes posted...
ZiggiStardust posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
How does a 13-year-old even get a credit card?

He didn't.
I'm assuming that his parents didn't put a password on their account.

Why don't you read the article instead of assuming.
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