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ledbowman
12/07/17 1:32:02 AM
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"THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION is considering a set of proposals developed by Blackwater founder Erik Prince and a retired CIA officer with assistance from Oliver North, a key figure in the Iran-Contra scandal to provide CIA Director Mike Pompeo and the White House with a global, private spy network that would circumvent official U.S. intelligence agencies, according to several current and former U.S. intelligence officials and others familiar with the proposals. The sources say the plans have been pitched to the White House as a means of countering deep state enemies in the intelligence community seeking to undermine Donald Trumps presidency.

The creation of such a program raises the possibility that the effort would be used to create an intelligence apparatus to justify the Trump administrations political agenda.

Pompeo cant trust the CIA bureaucracy, so we need to create this thing that reports just directly to him, said a former senior U.S. intelligence official with firsthand knowledge of the proposals, in describing White House discussions. It is a direct-action arm, totally off the books, this person said, meaning the intelligence collected would not be shared with the rest of the CIA or the larger intelligence community. The whole point is this is supposed to report to the president and Pompeo directly.

https://theintercept.com/2017/12/04/trump-white-house-weighing-plans-for-private-spies-to-counter-deep-state-enemies/
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DifferentialEquation
12/07/17 1:37:42 AM
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ledbowman posted...
Pompeo cant trust the CIA bureaucracy, so we need to create this thing that reports just directly to him, said a former senior U.S. intelligence official with firsthand knowledge of the proposals, in describing White House discussions.


Sounds reasonable to me.
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Bio1590
12/07/17 1:38:18 AM
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MakoReizei
12/07/17 1:38:44 AM
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Manocheese
12/07/17 1:39:11 AM
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Good. Drain the swamp!
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Questionmarktarius
12/07/17 1:39:38 AM
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Secret Service already exists.
Pretty much all they do is protect the president, vice president, and any former either, while also chasing down counterfeit money for some reason.
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Schwarber
12/07/17 1:39:39 AM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
ledbowman posted...
Pompeo cant trust the CIA bureaucracy, so we need to create this thing that reports just directly to him, said a former senior U.S. intelligence official with firsthand knowledge of the proposals, in describing White House discussions.


Sounds reasonable to me.


I like wasting taxpayer money too. The government should start burning it to keep the homeless warm
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SGT_Conti
12/07/17 1:40:43 AM
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lol Blackwater
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metralo
12/07/17 1:41:26 AM
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it would take him like a single day for him to turn on them unless they are complete yes men.
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Patchwork
12/07/17 1:43:26 AM
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He's legitimately trying to turn it into a dictatorship, and people are still defending him.

And Erik Prince is a right c***.
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I4NRulez
12/07/17 1:44:01 AM
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ledbowman posted...
with assistance from Oliver North


lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFV1uT-ihDo

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Questionmarktarius
12/07/17 1:44:31 AM
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Patchwork posted...
He's legitimately trying to turn it into a dictatorship, and people are still defending him.

He's nowhere near FDR, but he's definitely trying.
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Phantom_Nook
12/07/17 1:46:38 AM
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Trump is a wanna-be dictator.
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Axiom
12/07/17 1:47:09 AM
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I4NRulez posted...
ledbowman posted...
with assistance from Oliver North


lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFV1uT-ihDo

This whole scheme is just a way for Trump to locate his gold
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ledbowman
12/07/17 1:47:19 AM
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The proposals would utilize an army of spies with no official cover in several countries deemed denied areas for current American intelligence personnel, including North Korea and Iran. The White House has also considered creating a new global rendition unit meant to capture terrorist suspects around the world, as well as a propaganda campaign in the Middle East and Europe to combat Islamic extremism and Iran.

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Sayoria
12/07/17 1:47:55 AM
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The big boy gets whatever he wants, no matter how asinine it seems.
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Ving_Rhames
12/07/17 1:49:23 AM
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what the fuck lol
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sktgamer_13dude
12/07/17 1:49:53 AM
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ledbowman
12/07/17 1:53:45 AM
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Adding to these unsubstantiated claims, Maguire told the potential donors he also had evidence McMaster used a burner phone to send information gathered through the surveillance to a facility in Cyprus owned by George Soros. ...John [Maguire] was certain that the deep state was going to kick the president out of office within a year, said a person who discussed it with Maguire. These guys said they were protecting the president.

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metralo
12/07/17 1:54:34 AM
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someone as important as the president believing in shit like deep state lol
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Phantom_Nook
12/07/17 1:58:07 AM
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metralo posted...
someone as important as the president believing in shit like deep state lol

he gets that garbage from Fox News.
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Axiom
12/07/17 1:59:56 AM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
metralo posted...
someone as important as the president believing in shit like deep state lol

he gets that garbage from Fox News.

Oh fuck I didn't even see that and I wasn't aware Fox News peddled in that garbage. I mean I know they're shit but still. It's frightening that a president is making decisions based on a conspiracy theory
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Questionmarktarius
12/07/17 2:01:21 AM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
metralo posted...
someone as important as the president believing in shit like deep state lol

he gets that garbage from Fox News.

Deep State is Art Bell level paranoia.
Even I'm not that far gone, yet.
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ledbowman
12/07/17 2:07:27 AM
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Imagine if Obama ect.
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UnholyMudcrab
12/07/17 2:15:16 AM
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This orange fuck cannot possibly get out of the White House quickly enough.
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Sativa_Rose
12/07/17 2:21:23 AM
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ledbowman posted...
Imagine if Obama ect.


Obama actually did use Blackwater for a lot of CIA stuff, but not for his own CIA, but to have them work with the existing CIA

https://www.thenation.com/article/blackwaters-new-sugar-daddy-obama-administration/

They got huge contracts under Obama. Obama used a lot of contractors actually, they allowed him to keep the troop counts low because he doesn't have to include them in official numbers.
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Questionmarktarius
12/07/17 2:23:54 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
Blackwater

Is there anything really inherently bad about mercenaries?
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Sativa_Rose
12/07/17 2:24:54 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
Blackwater

Is there anything really inherently bad about mercenaries?


No, I actually made a thread maybe a month ago on CE about why I would support their use in various conflicts in Africa for example. I just posted that to point out the facts.
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Questionmarktarius
12/07/17 2:35:23 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
Blackwater

Is there anything really inherently bad about mercenaries?


No, I actually made a thread maybe a month ago on CE about why I would support their use in various conflicts in Africa for example. I just posted that to point out the facts.

I honestly can't remember if you're one of the CEmen I fight with all the damn time.
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ThyCorndog
12/07/17 2:44:15 AM
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So Trump and co want their own secret police?
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Sayoria
12/07/17 2:54:49 AM
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ThyCorndog posted...
So Trump and co want their own secret police?


Who woulda gestapo-lice force of his own would ever be desired?
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_Near_
12/07/17 2:56:18 AM
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MGS4
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ThyCorndog
12/07/17 2:57:56 AM
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Sayoria posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
So Trump and co want their own secret police?


Who woulda gestapo-lice force of his own would ever be desired?

I knew lice were the nazis of the insect world
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Questionmarktarius
12/07/17 2:58:23 AM
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Sayoria posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
So Trump and co want their own secret police?


Who woulda gestapo-lice force of his own would ever be desired?

Are you okay, Say?
That's pretty incomprehensible there.
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CarlGrimes
12/07/17 2:59:34 AM
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Well, it is not like the CIA is a trustful agency. They have plotted several times to kill Americans and blame others, and who knows how many times they have carried through with it.
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ThyCorndog
12/07/17 2:59:47 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Sayoria posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
So Trump and co want their own secret police?


Who woulda gestapo-lice force of his own would ever be desired?

Are you okay, Say?
That's pretty incomprehensible there.

I understood it fine. lice was prolly meant to be lite

and Trump having his own private CIA is certainly gestapo-esque
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Foppe
12/07/17 3:01:14 AM
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Like they would be the only one, the US military have done biological experiments on US citizens in the past.
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Sayoria
12/07/17 3:01:25 AM
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Who woulda guessed a police force of his own would ever be desired."

Okay, Night.
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CarlGrimes
12/07/17 3:01:27 AM
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ThyCorndog posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Sayoria posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
So Trump and co want their own secret police?


Who woulda gestapo-lice force of his own would ever be desired?

Are you okay, Say?
That's pretty incomprehensible there.

I understood it fine. lice was prolly meant to be lite

and Trump having his own private CIA is certainly gestapo-esque

No she meant to combine gestapo and police.
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EnragedSlith
12/07/17 3:01:32 AM
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Remember how obama got shit for turning America into a dictatorship on zero basis and Trump is already setting a record in his first year
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ThyCorndog
12/07/17 3:02:17 AM
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CarlGrimes posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Sayoria posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
So Trump and co want their own secret police?


Who woulda gestapo-lice force of his own would ever be desired?

Are you okay, Say?
That's pretty incomprehensible there.

I understood it fine. lice was prolly meant to be lite

and Trump having his own private CIA is certainly gestapo-esque

No she meant to combine gestapo and police.

Oh
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Questionmarktarius
12/07/17 3:02:41 AM
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ThyCorndog posted...
and Trump having his own private CIA is certainly gestapo-esque

Ah.

Yes. Very much yes.
Especially so since the Secret Service exists to do exactly that.

If Trump wants his own private bodyguards, that's cool I guess, but they'd need quite a bit of vetting and clearance, what with the guy being president and all.
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UnholyMudcrab
12/07/17 3:17:27 AM
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Gonna be pedantic for a little bit here, but I see it less as the Gestapo and more of the Sicherheitsdienst. The Gestapo was the state police force, and the SD took care of the spying and intelligence work.
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Questionmarktarius
12/07/17 3:22:25 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Sicherheitsdienst

I learned a new word today!
Some day, I may even learn how to pronounce it.
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ledbowman
12/07/17 3:23:14 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Gonna be pedantic for a little bit here, but I see it less as the Gestapo and more of the Sicherheitsdienst. The Gestapo was the state police force, and the SD took care of the spying and intelligence work.

Yes but with it being privately owned it's all too possible that those owners would order them to carry out kidnapping/murder/ect. inside the U.S. They're writing the checks.
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Fundabz
12/07/17 3:27:47 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
Blackwater

Is there anything really inherently bad about mercenaries?

No, just them. I think they are on their 3rd different name now.
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008Zulu
12/07/17 3:30:37 AM
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He wants his own news network, and secret intelligence office? Heil Trump.
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UnholyMudcrab
12/07/17 3:32:33 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Sicherheitsdienst

I learned a new word today!
Some day, I may even learn how to pronounce it.

Zee-sher-heights-deenst
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Questionmarktarius
12/07/17 3:33:23 AM
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008Zulu posted...
Heil Trump.

You need to try harder than that. At least get some alliteration in there.

"Total Trump" or something, except a lot less awful.
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