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The_Doge
12/14/17 5:38:04 PM
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Zp is not Doge so no much wow
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ZombiePelican
12/14/17 5:38:13 PM
#52:


electricbugs2 posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
I'm being judged by an unapologetic core kiddy? This is too rich

Case and point lmao.

Tough shit kiddo. Start listening to real Death Metal then you can talk to me on equal grounds

UnholyMudcrab posted...
Well, this topic turned out the exact way anyone could have predicted it to.

Fuck off

Asherlee10 posted...


I am curious though, when you engage in other people about your PSA to not be a corporate shill, what is your end goal? Get people to change?

Usually I focus on the predatory nature of them while bringing attention to how alot of them are directly targeted towards younger people or those with little to no self control
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voldothegr8
12/14/17 5:38:21 PM
#53:


Can't wait until he welches
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CM_Ponch
12/14/17 5:38:53 PM
#54:


How is it that after all these years people still fall for his bait?
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electricbugs2
12/14/17 5:39:21 PM
#55:


ZombiePelican posted...
Tough shit kiddo. Start listening to real Death Metal then you can talk to me on equal grounds

ZombiePelican posted...
Fuck off

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Tmaster148
12/14/17 5:40:31 PM
#57:


ZombiePelican posted...
Tough shit kiddo. Start listening to real Death Metal then you can talk to me on equal grounds


For someone who literally complained about gatekeeping earlier in this topic. You sure do love to gatekeep.

For the reference post #28

ZombiePelican posted...
We all don't play games on the easiest setting like you and cry about exclusion and gatekeeping for being complete shit at games

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ZombiePelican
12/14/17 5:40:34 PM
#58:


voldothegr8 posted...
Can't wait until he welches

I have every intention of closing my account if The Switch outsells the Wii U, however I might just welch to piss off you fanboys
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Darmik
12/14/17 5:42:56 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
Usually I focus on the predatory nature of them while bringing attention to how alot of them are directly targeted towards younger people or those with little to no self control


Okay, so this is a good clarification. But, what is your end goal? Behavior change? Only awareness?


He could encourage and talk about games that don't use this sorta practices but instead he'll just act elitist because he plays a bunch of FromSoftware games.

ZombiePelican posted...
I have every intention of closing my account if The Switch outsells the Wii U, however I might just welch to piss off you fanboys


So you're welching.
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voldothegr8
12/14/17 5:44:23 PM
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ZombiePelican posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Can't wait until he welches

I have every intention of closing my account if The Switch outsells the Wii U, however I might just welch to piss off you fanboys

We'll find out in a few months lol
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ZombiePelican
12/14/17 5:44:30 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Okay, so this is a good clarification. But, what is your end goal? Behavior change? Only awareness?

Making it illegal to have microtransactions in games with an upfront price

Tmaster148 posted...

For someone who literally complained about gatekeeping earlier in this topic. You sure do love to gatekeep.

For the reference post #28

You misunderstand my post, I was mocking those who whine about gatekeeping and exclusion like Darmik
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Tmaster148
12/14/17 5:45:21 PM
#63:


ZombiePelican posted...
You misunderstand my post, I was mocking those who whine about gatekeeping and exclusion like Darmik


"It was just a joke"

Sure buddy.
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electricbugs2
12/14/17 5:45:59 PM
#64:


ZombiePelican posted...
You misunderstand my post, I was mocking those who whine about gatekeeping and exclusion like Darmik

pLOrJ
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ZombiePelican
12/14/17 5:48:12 PM
#65:


Darmik posted...
but instead he'll just act elitist because he plays a bunch of FromSoftware games.

I earned it considering I beat them unlike you
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ZombiePelican
12/14/17 5:49:33 PM
#66:


Tmaster148 posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
You misunderstand my post, I was mocking those who whine about gatekeeping and exclusion like Darmik


"It was just a joke"

Sure buddy.

I wasn't joking I was mocking him there's a big difference
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Tmaster148
12/14/17 5:50:31 PM
#67:


ZombiePelican posted...
Darmik posted...
but instead he'll just act elitist because he plays a bunch of FromSoftware games.

I earned it considering I beat them unlike you


More gatekeeping.
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Darmik
12/14/17 5:50:52 PM
#68:


Darmik posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
Darmik posted...
Which only happens if you're bad at the game.

We all don't play games on the easiest setting like you and cry about exclusion and gatekeeping for being complete shit at games


That's not even a relevant argument. I'm not talking about casual gamers. I'm talking about you specifically. Bayonetta has an easy auto-combo mode for players like you anyway.

It was just a perfect example of you acting elitist (like how you thought it was ridiculous that any game other than Nier Automata could be GOTY) and yet when you started to talk about the actual gameplay mechanics you didn't know wtf you were talking about.


Darmik posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
Darmik posted...
And go ahead and tell me your argument for why again? Because it was hilarious.

Because Witch Time is a garbage half baked mechanic that holds the game back


Completely contradicts your argument last time. Which was that you got hit all of the time.

Also it's really weird that you said you beat the game on the hardest difficulty when that mechanic is disabled.


I love how he totally ignored this. I called it earlier in the topic. If you actually talk about the nitty gritty of games he doesn't know what he's talking about. He just spouts off shit he reads on /v/

I'm not even sure what you're talking about with Gatekeeping. I've always defended the lack of easy mode in Dark Souls. Developers should be able to make whatever game they want.

The only way you could think this is that I welcome all types of games including ones for casual gamers. So console gaming as a whole.
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Loghain
12/14/17 5:55:23 PM
#70:


He's a clown
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Darklit_Minuet
12/14/17 5:57:01 PM
#71:


Mega evolutions and Alolan forms are awesome. Deal with it
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ZombiePelican
12/14/17 5:57:06 PM
#72:


Tmaster148 posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
Darmik posted...
but instead he'll just act elitist because he plays a bunch of FromSoftware games.

I earned it considering I beat them unlike you


More gatekeeping.

There is no such thing as gatekeeping, it's a made up term used by people who are too shit to fully be involved in something.

Darmik posted...
I've always defended the lack of easy mode in Dark Souls.

You literally sided with Polygon when they made an article whining about how Cuphead's difficulty is bad and how exclusiveness shouldn't be apart of game design. Stop talking out of your ass
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ZombiePelican
12/14/17 5:58:32 PM
#73:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
Alolan forms are awesome.

They could be if it wasn't done for the sake of purely marketing towards nostalgia
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Tmaster148
12/14/17 6:00:24 PM
#74:


ZombiePelican posted...
There is no such thing as gatekeeping, it's a made up term used by people who are too shit to fully be involved in something.


Why did you even bring it up into this topic in the first place if it's not a real term?
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Darmik
12/14/17 6:01:37 PM
#75:


ZombiePelican posted...
There is no such thing as gatekeeping, it's a made up term used by people who are too s*** to fully be involved in something.


Says the guy who literally said 'gaming isn't for you' when he said the Switch was the perfect system for him

ZombiePelican posted...
You literally sideed with Polygon when they made an article whining about how Cuphead's difficulty is bad and how exclusiveness shouldn't be apart of game design. Stop talking out of your ass


There is no way my argument was as clear cut as that. I have spent loads of posts talking about how Dark Souls having an easy mode isn't simple. I constantly argue that Dead Rising should keep the timer.

At most I might have said that I wouldn't care if Cuphead had a God Mode or something.

There is no such thing as a game that doesn't exclude someone. So I'm not sure what you mean by 'exclusiveness by design'
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Darklit_Minuet
12/14/17 6:14:23 PM
#76:


ZombiePelican posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Alolan forms are awesome.

They could be if it wasn't done for the sake of purely marketing towards nostalgia

Why are you saying that like it's a bad thing?
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GiftedACIII
12/14/17 6:19:19 PM
#77:


Remember when he legit advocated genocide against people with royal blood?
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0AbsoluteZero0
12/14/17 6:24:32 PM
#78:


Asherlee10 posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
Making it illegal to have microtransactions in games with an upfront price

So we do this by having people contact our representatives, right? Meaning you want behavior change from the people you interact with, correct?

Thank you, that's a point I've been trying to get at for a while with ZP. I agree that many microtransactions are structured in a way to take advantage of vulnerable people like kids or people with gambling issues. And I think it'd be good to do something to curb those practices as well, like ZP.

However, no matter how noble the cause, you're gonna have a hard time winning anyone over while always being abrasive and combative...

Darmik posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
There is no such thing as gatekeeping, it's a made up term used by people who are too s*** to fully be involved in something.

Says the guy who literally said 'gaming isn't for you' when he said the Switch was the perfect system for him

Yeah, that was messed up. @pinky0926 was explaining how Switch worked well with his busy life where he can't play that much anymore, and ZP basically said "fuck you, you don't matter."

His rampant anti-Nintendo crusade is one thing I definitely don't agree with. It's a bit puzzling too, considering that Nintendo seems to be one of the few remaining game devs that aren't trying to nickel-and-dime the shit out of their customers these days
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Tmaster148
12/14/17 6:27:23 PM
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0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
His rampant anti-Nintendo crusade is one thing I definitely don't agree with. It's a bit puzzling too, considering that Nintendo seems to be one of the few remaining game devs that aren't trying to nickel-and-dime the shit out of their customers these days


Well he can't hate Nintendo for it's microtransaction practices, so he has to hate them for something.
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Paper_Okami
12/14/17 6:29:02 PM
#81:


ZP of course proved all the naysayers right in this topic.
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Electrokinesis
12/14/17 6:34:45 PM
#82:


I only ever see him talk about gaming, and Im just not that interested, so I dont pay much attention. He strikes me as needlessly hostile, though.
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prettyprincess
12/14/17 6:36:12 PM
#83:


most slam is as bad as most core though
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GATTJT
12/14/17 6:46:34 PM
#84:


Electrokinesis posted...
I only ever see him talk about gaming, and Im just not that interested, so I dont pay much attention. He strikes me as needlessly hostile, though.

Needlessly hostile perfectly describes ZP.
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0AbsoluteZero0
12/14/17 7:33:01 PM
#85:


GATTJT posted...
Electrokinesis posted...
I only ever see him talk about gaming, and Im just not that interested, so I dont pay much attention. He strikes me as needlessly hostile, though.

Needlessly hostile perfectly describes ZP.

Yeah, he denied it earlier ITT, but I've seen him jump down the throat of people who respectfully disagreed with him in a nice manner. It's not a good look
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ZombiePelican
12/14/17 7:53:47 PM
#86:


Tmaster148 posted...

Why did you even bring it up into this topic in the first place if it's not a real term?

I was mocking Darmik for his unironic uses of those made up terms

Darmik posted...
Says the guy who literally said 'gaming isn't for you' when he said the Switch was the perfect system for him

So?

Darmik posted...
There is no way my argument was as clear cut as that.

Lol what backpedaling, you literally said there was nothing wrong with the article and that it brings up good points. Even though is was just whining from someone unable to git gud

Darklit_Minuet posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Alolan forms are awesome.

They could be if it wasn't done for the sake of purely marketing towards nostalgia

Why are you saying that like it's a bad thing?

Because it's pure fucking laziness, GameFreak are some of the most notoriously lazy devs in the industry up there with Bethesda and we shouldn't be patting them on the back for using nostalgia to hide the fact they're struggling to come up with new and unique Pokemon and don't want to put in the time and effort to do that.

GiftedACIII posted...
Remember when he legit advocated genocide against people with royal blood?

Nothing wrong with that.
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ZombiePelican
12/14/17 7:54:15 PM
#87:


0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
Thank you, that's a point I've been trying to get at for a while with ZP. I agree that many microtransactions are structured in a way to take advantage of vulnerable people like kids or people with gambling issues. And I think it'd be good to do something to curb those practices as well, like ZP.

Lol stop fucking lying, in every single topic I've made about microtransactions you've repeatedly made excuses to justify the avarice of publishers

0AbsoluteZero0 posted...

Yeah, that was messed up. @pinky0926 was explaining how Switch worked well with his busy life where he can't play that much anymore, and ZP basically said "fuck you, you don't matter."

He literally doesn't. If you don't have the time to put in hours on a real platform you have no business gaming. End of story.

0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
Nintendo seems to be one of the few remaining game devs that aren't trying to nickel-and-dime the shit out of their customers these days

Literally ignoring how Nintendo has on disc DLC that can only be unlocked through their glorified overpriced happy meal toys that they make so few of and how they gated off hard mode in BoTW behind a paywall

Asherlee10 posted...
The actual delivery and him trying to obtain his end goal just isn't working at all.

I have said nothing wrong, I don't have to explain my methods to a sheltered and coddled child like yourself

Electrokinesis posted...
I only ever see him talk about gaming,

It's almost like we're on a forum designed for discussing gaming, funny how that works

prettyprincess posted...
most slam is as bad as most core though

Nah, Slam is many levels above anything with "core" in the title
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omega cookie
12/14/17 7:56:10 PM
#88:


ZP is one of the few people stupid enough to somehow lose an argument against himself.
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Darklit_Minuet
12/14/17 8:00:09 PM
#89:


ZombiePelican posted...
Because it's pure fucking laziness, GameFreak are some of the most notoriously lazy devs in the industry up there with Bethesda and we shouldn't be patting them on the back for using nostalgia to hide the fact they're struggling to come up with new and unique Pokemon and don't want to put in the time and effort to do that.

Why put in the time and effort to do something new when you already have a formula and tons of monsters that work?
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Link HT
12/14/17 8:09:01 PM
#90:


good guy ol' zombiebird didn't want any new users to wonder why everyone thinks he's literally cancer so he shows everyone right in this very topic.

classic
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0AbsoluteZero0
12/14/17 8:14:32 PM
#91:


ZombiePelican posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
Thank you, that's a point I've been trying to get at for a while with ZP. I agree that many microtransactions are structured in a way to take advantage of vulnerable people like kids or people with gambling issues. And I think it'd be good to do something to curb those practices as well, like ZP.

Lol stop fucking lying, in every single topic I've made about microtransactions you've repeatedly made excuses to justify the avarice of publishers

What are you even talking about? I'm staunchly against microtransactions if they're anything more than cosmetic, and agree they're becoming problematic. I don't think loot boxes should necessarily be banned, but I wouldn't mind seeing some regulations put in place, like age limits, spending caps, or mandatory odds listings like you see on lotto tickets.

ZombiePelican posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
Yeah, that was messed up. @pinky0926 was explaining how Switch worked well with his busy life where he can't play that much anymore, and ZP basically said "fuck you, you don't matter."

He literally doesn't. If you don't have the time to put in hours on a real platform you have no business gaming. End of story.

Got it. So if someone doesn't play enough to be considered a "real gamer" by you, they don't matter whatsoever. Get outta here with that elitist BS.

ZombiePelican posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
Nintendo seems to be one of the few remaining game devs that aren't trying to nickel-and-dime the shit out of their customers these days

Literally ignoring how Nintendo has on disc DLC that can only be unlocked through their glorified overpriced happy meal toys that they make so few of and how they gated off hard mode in BoTW behind a paywall

Really now, you're getting butthurt over Amiibo content? 99% of the time the unlocks are throwaway cosmetic bonuses with no appreciable effect on the game. They're certainly not very comparable to what you're calling on disc DLC.

I do agree with BotW's hard mode being gated was some bullshit. But again, Nintendo is far less guilty of these crappy practices than almost all the other major devs at this point. I'd think you could muster up a little respect for that, ZP
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Tmaster148
12/14/17 8:17:16 PM
#92:


0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
Yeah, that was messed up. @pinky0926 was explaining how Switch worked well with his busy life where he can't play that much anymore, and ZP basically said "fuck you, you don't matter."

He literally doesn't. If you don't have the time to put in hours on a real platform you have no business gaming. End of story.

Got it. So if someone doesn't play enough to be considered a "real gamer" by you, they don't matter whatsoever. Get outta here with that elitist BS.


It's funny how much of a gatekeeper ZP is. No wonder he's so sensitive about the term.
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prettyprincess
12/14/17 8:30:28 PM
#93:


the nintendo switch is a tangible console with real games that you can put into it or download onto it and then play

just speaking objectively here
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Darmik
12/14/17 8:36:20 PM
#94:


ZombiePelican posted...
I was mocking Darmik for his unironic uses of those made up terms


Have you noticed how you've spent this entire topic arguing with strawmen?
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ZombiePelican
12/14/17 8:48:10 PM
#95:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
Why put in the time and effort to do something new when you already have a formula and tons of monsters that work?

Because we shouldn't be rewarding laziness. It's not hard concept to grasp, if I get lazy at my job I get fired and replaced, GF get lazy at their jobs and they get applause and praise for it? Fuck off with that apologist garbage

0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
if they're anything more than cosmetic

There's the problem and why I call you a corporate apologist and shill. Even "Just cosmetic" they're unacceptable in any game you paid even a penny up front for and will fight til fucking death to get this point across

Activision has shown just how insidious and slimy "Just cosmetic" microtransactions can be, yet you'll still defend them for being "just cosmetic"

0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
Got it. So if someone doesn't play enough to be considered a "real gamer" by you, they don't matter whatsoever.

Yeah, you're irrelevant at that point, not a hard concept to grasp

0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
Really now, you're getting butthurt over Amiibo content? 99% of the time the unlocks are throwaway cosmetic bonuses with no appreciable effect on the game. They're certainly not very comparable to what you're calling on disc DLC.

ITP: Gating off content behind paywalls is ok if you're Nintendo

Tmaster148 posted...

It's funny how much of a gatekeeper ZP is. No wonder he's so sensitive about the term.

Only you could intentionally misinterpret mocking someone for their unironic usage of those garbage terms as being sensitive
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Darklit_Minuet
12/14/17 9:01:20 PM
#96:


ZombiePelican posted...
Because we shouldn't be rewarding laziness. It's not hard concept to grasp, if I get lazy at my job I get fired and replaced, GF get lazy at their jobs and they get applause and praise for it? Fuck off with that apologist garbage

My job involves getting shit done in a way that customers like. If I find a way to simplify the process, I can be as lazy as I damn well please, all that matters is what the customers think.

Pokemon games are still printing money, clearly they're doing it right
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ZombiePelican
12/14/17 9:21:57 PM
#97:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
Pokemon games are still printing money, clearly they're doing it right

Because they're tapping into the ever diminishing returns market of nostalgia pandering. It's laziness plain and simple no matter how you try to spin it, we absolutely should not be applauding them for being too lazy to come up with new quality Pokemon designs and reskinning old ones because muh nostalgia.

As a Pokemon fan of damn near 20 years it's beyond insulting to know GF and Nintendo think their fans are just dumb cattle who will gobble up anything just shit out with a Pokemon logo on it and even more insulting is that people are falling for this contrived marketing scheme and actually unironically DEFENDING this lazy pile of shit
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0AbsoluteZero0
12/14/17 9:33:54 PM
#98:


ZombiePelican posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
if they're anything more than cosmetic

There's the problem and why I call you a corporate apologist and shill. Even "Just cosmetic" they're unacceptable in any game you paid even a penny up front for and will fight til fucking death to get this point across

Activision has shown just how insidious and slimy "Just cosmetic" microtransactions can be, yet you'll still defend them for being "just cosmetic"

Please explain to me how cosmetic-only microtransactions are in any way detrimental to you. You don't have to pay for that content, and you don't face a competitive disadvantage as a result either.

I personally don't give a fuck about microtransactions unless they're giving my opponent an unfair edge in games, but that's just me.

ZombiePelican posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
Really now, you're getting butthurt over Amiibo content? 99% of the time the unlocks are throwaway cosmetic bonuses with no appreciable effect on the game. They're certainly not very comparable to what you're calling on disc DLC.

ITP: Gating off content behind paywalls is ok if you're Nintendo

Yet another strawman argument like @Darmik pointed out earlier. I didn't say Amiibo content was 100% fine, but that it's so inconsequential that there's no reason to be salty about it. So you can get a few new outfits in BotW or Mario Odyssey with Amiibo, so what?

I'll repeat, it's not in any way comparable to devs that take huge sections of an already complete game and lock them behind paygates. It's dishonest of you to act as if that's equivalent to the little Amiibo bonuses.
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GiftedACIII
12/14/17 10:33:10 PM
#99:


ZombiePelican posted...
Nothing wrong with that.

So you're saying we should kill children?
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pinky0926
12/15/17 2:48:24 AM
#100:


ZombiePelican posted...

0AbsoluteZero0 posted...

Yeah, that was messed up. @pinky0926 was explaining how Switch worked well with his busy life where he can't play that much anymore, and ZP basically said "fuck you, you don't matter."

He literally doesn't. If you don't have the time to put in hours on a real platform you have no business gaming. End of story.


Lmao is this guy for real

What do you do for fun zombiepelican, since video games are obviously more something you consider a serious life responsibility
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