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spanky1
12/15/17 5:38:06 PM
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Spoilers for The Last Jedi, don't look if you don't wanna know.

I've looked at basically no reviews and no fan feedback, so I'm not tainted by preconceived notions. I mean I heard it got good reviews, but I don't know what fans think about it.

As a whole, it's hard to rate the movie right after seeing it one time. I feel like I need to sit on it for a while. I need to see it again or something.

The best parts of the movie were Rey and Luke on the island. Basically every moment of that was amazing.

And overrall, it was a very good movie.

But, I feel like there were no revelations. There was nothing big and shocking. There was no twist. There was no big reveal. There were a lot of things I feel cockblocked on, things that the fan base has been guessing at and theorizing, but the movie was like, "nah, who gives a fuck about that stuff."

Snoke's identity. It's like the movie doesn't even care about him. He's basically nothing. It's all Kylo Ren, baby. We don't learn anything new about Snoke at all. No he's not a failed resurrection attempt of Palpatine. No he's not a grand old Sith lord risen from the shadows. He's just some guy. And if there actually is more to him, the movie doesn't care about letting us know.

Rey's parents. They're not important. Okay. I guess that's fine. Just a little disappointing, you know? There was so much focus on them in The Force Awakens.

The main characters, Rey and Ren. There was a lot of guessing as to how they'd shift on the good/evil line. Will Ren become good? Will Rey become a surprise bad guy? What crazy, wacky shifts will happen? Will they team up? Will something mind blowing happen?

Nah.

Rey's the good guy, Ren's the bad guy.

The explanation of Ren destroying Luke's Jedi school was underwhelming. I was expecting something more shocking.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, while the movie was very good, had great action, the characters are great, it was very entertaining, all of that being true...it also wasn't mind-blowing. No revelations. No "Luke, I am your father."

Maybe it was my own mistake for thinking there'd be mind-blowing twists in it or something.

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MrToothHasYou
12/16/17 2:23:42 AM
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Just got back from seeing it and I pretty much agree with most of your points.

I think there was a lot of interesting stuff going on, but a lot of it was stuff that I wasnt particularly interested in as a fan. I wanted answers, and the filmmakers ignored a lot of the questions brought about by the first movie. It felt at times that they were deliberately thumbing their nose at fans by purposefully subverting expectations.

Im still processing how I feel, but I think overall I did enjoy it, even if it failed to live up to all of the hype the fan base created for it.
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TheDarkCircle
12/16/17 2:32:19 AM
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spanky1 posted...
Spoilers for The Last Jedi, don't look if you don't wanna know.



But, I feel like there were no revelations. There was nothing big and shocking. There was no twist. There was no big reveal. There were a lot of things I feel cockblocked on, things that the fan base has been guessing at and theorizing, but the movie was like, "nah, who gives a fuck about that stuff."

Snoke's identity. It's like the movie doesn't even care about him. He's basically nothing. It's all Kylo Ren, baby. We don't learn anything new about Snoke at all. No he's not a failed resurrection attempt of Palpatine. No he's not a grand old Sith lord risen from the shadows. He's just some guy. And if there actually is more to him, the movie doesn't care about letting us know.


You kinda missed the point of the movie. The whole message was that you don't NEED to be a Skywalker or a Solo etc in order to be a hero. You can still be a "nobody" and have a story worth telling.

Or in Snoke's case, be "important" but ultimately a nobody. He's some asshole whole seized power somehow after the fall of the empire. He was simply a different regime, he came and went. Nothing more to it.

When Kylo says to Rey "you thought you had a place in this story?" He's hitting on the fact that she kept hoping she'd be someone "important" and she isn't. But just because you're not important doesn't mean you're not special. Within the force she has just as much meaning as a Skywalker or anyone else.

It's why the little boy uses the forces and looks up at the sky in the end. He's no different than Luke in ANH. The Skywalker story will come to an end sometime, but that doesn't mean there aren't other stories of value. Each one of us has a story worth telling. The Skywalkers, the Jedi temple, the Jedi texts etc. none of it matters any more than anyone else in the galaxy.

That's what the movie was about. Take it or leave it
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