Poll of the Day > Trump officials demand Mueller return thousands of emails

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Doctor Foxx
02/21/18 2:15:20 AM
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02/21/18 3:28:29 AM
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knivesX2004
02/23/18 11:54:12 AM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Looks like Gates is going for a deal

http://www.cnn.com/2018/02/15/politics/rick-gates-plea-deal-mueller-russia-investigation/index.html

Yup. Reported today he flipped and "had a change of heart" aka saw the charges and proof.
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Zareth
02/23/18 11:56:16 AM
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But his emails.
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Doctor Foxx
02/23/18 12:52:23 PM
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knivesX2004 posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
Looks like Gates is going for a deal

http://www.cnn.com/2018/02/15/politics/rick-gates-plea-deal-mueller-russia-investigation/index.html

Yup. Reported today he flipped and "had a change of heart" aka saw the charges and proof.

And there's something like 30 new charges between Manafort and Gates. Including many relating to incorrect tax information. Also includes 3 unnammed collaborators.

Seeing those charges it feels like a matter of time before Trump is charged for the same
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knivesX2004
02/23/18 7:33:32 PM
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Phantom_Nook
02/23/18 9:59:50 PM
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Apparently Manafort and Gates were caught in their little money laundering scheme because they didn't know how to convert a PDF to Word. Also they kept, wait for it...

The emails.

Where they were hatching their scheme.
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Doctor Foxx
02/23/18 10:27:36 PM
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stupid watergate, indeed
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Doctor Foxx
02/26/18 2:57:12 AM
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Doctor Foxx
02/28/18 1:46:01 AM
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http://observer.com/2018/02/kremlin-officials-began-planning-donald-trump-us-presidency-in-2014/

Ever since Donald J. Trump was inaugurated as president 13 months ago, with his White House shrouded in a fog over its murky Russia ties from day one, Fridays have been the day that big news gets dumped, per venerable Washington tradition. Last Friday did not disappoint, and a week that was supposed to be about the White Houses big infrastructure plan instead wound up focusing on Russia, yet again.

After months of investigation, Special Counsel Robert Mueller issued indictments against 13 Russians and three Russian entities on charges of conspiracy to defraud the United States. In addition, three Russians were charged with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud, while five were charged with aggravated identity theft. Boiled down, the indictments outline a complex conspiracy to clandestinely influence our 2016 election.

Beginning in 2014, the Kremlin began laying the groundwork for information warfare against the American electorate, collecting intelligence and establishing masked computer networks to employ social media in a weaponized manner against our democracy. The hub of this secret effort was the Internet Research Agency in St. Petersburg, which functioned as a front for Russian intelligence; at its 2016 peak, it was spending $1.25 million per month on operations to influence our election with online disinformation and propaganda. This effort aimed to sow distrust among Americans, further poisoning our already polarized election, while boosting Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders at the expense of Hillary Clinton and Trumps rivals in the Republican primaries.

These indictments fundamentally shift the debate about what happened in 2016. Despite nonstop claims for more than a year by President Trump that Russian interference in his election is a Democratic hoax, an assertion that has been parroted virulently by his backers, its now glaringly obvious that Kremlin officials indeed did clandestinely interfere to help put Donald Trump in the White House. Here, the presidents repeated assurances that Moscow did not meddle in his electionbecause Vladimir Putin told him so!appear worse than merely unbelievable.

Predictably, the White House has latched on to the fact that Muellers indictments state that no members of Team Trump wittingly parlayed with Russian spies in 2016, who masked their identities. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosensteins statement, There is no allegation in this indictment that any American was a knowing participant in this illegal activity. There is no allegation in the indictment that the charge conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election, has been judged especially significant by the president and his defenders. However, Rosensteins careful parsing of his statement about this indictment implies that more may be coming.

In truth, this is just the first wave of Muellers indictments against Team Trump. More, and worse, is headed to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. The special counsels efforts to rope White House staffers into obstruction charges now take on different coloration as what they were trying to hide is coming into focus. At a minimum, events like the Team Trump June 9, 2016 meeting in Trump Tower with the Russian attorney Natalya Veselnitskayain reality, a Russian intelligence officerostensibly to discuss adoptions, look more sinister when viewed against the backdrop of the broader Kremlin conspiracy against our election. As do pro-Kremlin changes to the Republican platform on Ukraine that were pushed by Team Trump at the partys mid-July 2016 convention in Cleveland.


Really just read the article it's long
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Doctor Foxx
02/28/18 2:14:46 AM
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As the president tweeted on Saturday: Funny how the Fake News Media doesnt want to say that the Russian group was formed in 2014, long before my run for President. Maybe they knew I was going to run even though I didnt know!

This claim is absurd on its face. That Donald Trump floated the idea of running for the White House several times before he officially threw his hat in the ring on June 16, 2015, is a matter of public record. Moreover, he applied for a trademark on his slogan Make America Great Again back in November 2012, just six days after Barack Obama was reelected. Donald Trumps Twitter feed between then and the official announcement of his candidacy included several references to his impending presidential run. The future candidate was re-tweeting others use of the #Trump2016 hashtag as far back as 2013, another indication that the White House was on Trumps mind long before June 2015.

Then theres highly classified intelligence demonstrating that Donald Trump was planning on running for the presidencywith Kremlin backingyears before the 2016 election. Back in the spring of 2014, a European intelligence service, a NATO ally of the United States, received a top-secret report that the Russians would back Donald Trump for the White House in the next election. The source was a mid-level Russian intelligence official who had plausible access to secret Kremlin plans.

Moreover, this source had a track record of providing accurate information, so his Trump bombshell merited examination. However, our partners determined that the notion was so absurdafter all, Trump was a reality TV star, a mere carnival barker, not a serious personthat the report had to be Russian disinformation. The source was put on ice for several months and his information was not shared with the Americans, since our friends didnt want to appear so foolish as to suggest Donald Trump would run for president with secret Russian help.

However, American intelligence was hearing similar whispers back in early 2014. The National Security Agencys global signals intelligence apparatus picked up conversations about a coming Trump presidential run with Kremlin backing. These were what the SIGINT world calls reflectionsthat is, Russians talking to other Russians, without Americans (much less Team Trump members) involved. These intercepted conversations included discussions of Trumps coming White House run and how Moscow planned to boost him; the SIGINT involved, while not detailed, left the indelible impression that this secret effort had approval from the top in the Kremlin. Some of NSAs foreign spy partners intercepted similar conversations in 2014.

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knivesX2004
02/28/18 2:24:48 AM
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It's going to be fun matching up the timeline to Trump crying on Twitter after he gets charged.
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Phantom_Nook
02/28/18 2:28:03 AM
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Yet Trump still gets to flail around and ruin America.
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Doctor Foxx
02/28/18 2:29:00 AM
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knivesX2004 posted...
It's going to be fun matching up the timeline to Trump crying on Twitter after he gets charged.

Gates didn't get forgiven for 70 million in money laundering (among other things) just for information on the best place to get nothingburgers
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knivesX2004
02/28/18 2:37:19 AM
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Not to mention people seem to be forgetting these people are pleading GUILTY to fuckin' treason.
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Doctor Foxx
02/28/18 2:39:36 AM
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"there's no collusion"

That line is nice. Collusion isn't a thing you can be charged for. There's conspiracy against the United States of America. There's treason.

People are going down
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knivesX2004
02/28/18 11:06:39 AM
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I like how Trump is so stupid he goes on Twitter and publicly attacks sessions instead of just setting up a meeting and asking him what is going on.
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knivesX2004
02/28/18 1:04:29 PM
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AP is reporting a school shooting in Georgia.
A teacher has been taken into custody.
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Doctor Foxx
02/28/18 1:05:29 PM
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knivesX2004 posted...
AP is reporting a school shooting in Georgia.
A teacher has been taken into custody.

Oh my.

Wrong topic? Or just the fallacy of the armed teacher saving students
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knivesX2004
03/01/18 4:11:49 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Wrong topic?

Turning this into my unofficial news dump topic since all the trolls seem to have left.

Speaking of news, old Trump staffers are finding it hard to find jobs because everyone hates them lol.
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Phantom_Nook
03/01/18 4:23:53 PM
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speaking of Trump staffers
https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/969317139919392768
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knivesX2004
03/01/18 8:38:15 PM
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I completely forgot about that guy.
Also Ivanka is now under investigation lolololol.
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Entity13
03/01/18 9:04:28 PM
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I'm just waiting for Donald Sr to be like "I always knew and they do not work for me. They never worked for me. See, NO COLLUSION!"
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Doctor Foxx
03/01/18 9:25:55 PM
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knivesX2004 posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
Wrong topic?

Turning this into my unofficial news dump topic since all the trolls seem to have left.

Speaking of news, old Trump staffers are finding it hard to find jobs because everyone hates them lol.

What you wouldn't want to hire the spice weasel?
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Doctor Foxx
03/02/18 12:40:16 AM
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https://twitter.com/mic/status/758353678596268032/video/1

Two things. One, Trump seemed a lot more articulate a couple years ago. Two... Wow.
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Doctor Foxx
03/02/18 4:05:36 PM
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https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/russia-troll-farm-r-the_donald/

the donald was full of russian propaganda lol
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RCtheWSBC
03/02/18 4:07:53 PM
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This week was fucking bonkers.
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Doctor Foxx
03/02/18 4:09:56 PM
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RCtheWSBC posted...
This week was fucking bonkers.

right? My housemate has been ignoring the news so I caught her up yesterday. I told her "...and that was all this week" and she could not believe it. She's a reporter/journalist who remembers when Watergate happened (and felt compelled to go into journalism after that scandal)
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Entity13
03/02/18 4:53:40 PM
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This week was the sort of crazy that, if Nixon were still around, he'd be telling Trump to calm his manboobs a little.
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knivesX2004
03/02/18 4:54:57 PM
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He's too quiet. Something is up.
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Phantom_Nook
03/02/18 5:24:49 PM
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/mueller-team-asking-if-kushner
Looks like Kushey boy is in Mueller's sights.
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Entity13
03/02/18 5:28:35 PM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/mueller-team-asking-if-kushner
Looks like Kushey boy is in Mueller's sights.


Waiting for Fox and/or Trump:
"Kushner doesn't have top secret clearance, and thus doesn't know anything! This investigation is a farce!"
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HelIWithoutSin
03/02/18 5:29:00 PM
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More Kushen for the pushin.
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Doctor Foxx
03/02/18 5:51:00 PM
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If you haven't read this already you really need to

https://www.npr.org/2018/03/01/590076949/depth-of-russian-politicians-cultivation-of-nra-ties-revealed
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OhhhJa
03/02/18 6:49:14 PM
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Almost a year and a half in and no charges filed. Maybe you guys will get him by 2024!
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Doctor Foxx
03/02/18 7:16:37 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Almost a year and a half in and no charges filed. Maybe you guys will get him by 2024!

over a hundred charges so far, not Trump directly yet. Investigation is ongoing
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knivesX2004
03/02/18 9:26:33 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Almost a year and a half in and no charges filed. Maybe you guys will get him by 2024!

No charges?
His entire fucking team is under investigation and some have even plead guilty to the fucking collusion or been subpoenad lol.
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papercup
03/04/18 3:29:52 PM
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I like how for years and years Republicans were all "Obama is going to take your guns and cancel the election!" and Trump said he would do both and nobody bats an eye. :P
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Doctor Foxx
03/05/18 3:32:55 PM
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http://wapo.st/2tl7t4A

Former Trump aide Sam Nunberg said Monday that he has been subpoenaed to appear in front of a federal grand jury investigating Russias interference in the 2016 presidential election but that he will refuse to go.

In an interview with The Washington Post, Nunberg said he was asked to come to Washington to appear before the grand jury on Friday. He also provided a copy of what appears to be his two-page grand jury subpoena seeking documents related to President Trump and nine other people, including emails, correspondence, invoices, telephone logs, calendars and records of any kind.

Nunberg forwarded an email listed as coming from the office of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III seeking his appearance in front of the panel on Friday.

Among those the subpoena requests information about are departing White House communications director Hope Hicks, former White House strategist Stephen K. Bannon, Trump lawyer Michael Cohen, former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski and adviser Roger Stone.

Nunberg said he does not plan to comply with the subpoena, including either providing testimony or documents.

Let him arrest me, Nunberg said. Mr. Mueller should understand I am not going in on Friday.

Nunberg said he was planning to go on Bloomberg TV and tear up the subpoena.

It is unclear what actions Mueller would take if Nunberg does not appear in front of the grand jury. Nunberg, an early campaign aide, was dismissed by Trump and no longer is in his good graces.

The Russians and Trump did not collude, Nunberg said. Putin is too smart to collude with Donald Trump.

Im not spending 80 hours going over my emails with Roger Stone and Steve Bannon and producing them, Nunberg said. Donald Trump won this election on his own. He campaigned his ass off. And there is nobody who hates him more than me.


lol
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Jen0125
03/05/18 3:37:18 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Nunberg said he was planning to go on Bloomberg TV and tear up the subpoena.


lmao okay tough guy
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knivesX2004
03/05/18 4:04:13 PM
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He's going on other shows now.
The dude is drunk and unhinged.
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RCtheWSBC
03/05/18 5:24:53 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/261-politics/76383546

Five pages tracking all the ridiculous shit Nunberg said on live TV today (so far)
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knivesX2004
03/05/18 6:04:01 PM
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It sounds like he has too much evidence to destroy and not enough time.
Poor baby. Lock him up.
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RCtheWSBC
03/05/18 6:12:49 PM
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He is on MSNBC live right now.

He's threatened both Corey Lewdanowski (sp) and Sarah Huckabee Sanders directly.
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Entity13
03/05/18 6:14:03 PM
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Dude's going out like a flaming turd on somebody else's doorstep.
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RCtheWSBC
03/05/18 6:16:04 PM
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"Trump is the most disloyal person you're ever going to meet," says Ex-Trump aide
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Doctor Foxx
03/05/18 6:25:32 PM
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knivesX2004 posted...
He's going on other shows now.
The dude is drunk and unhinged.

Is he actually drunk or what
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RCtheWSBC
03/05/18 6:28:10 PM
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No, he seems sober and has no fucking regrets. He says his attorney may have dropped him as a client by now, LOL

He says Trump and Corey treated him and Roger Stone like trash. He literally told SHS to shut up.
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Doctor Foxx
03/05/18 6:28:38 PM
#183:


He learned from the Carter Page school of how to fuck up interviews
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RCtheWSBC
03/05/18 6:30:41 PM
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This is the first time I've watched MSNBC live and goddamn, it's worth it. He's letting it all air out. He thinks he won't go to jail if he doesn't comply.
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