Board 8 > can we go over again why many of you like Thousand Year Door over Paper Mario?

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UInstinctGogeta
12/18/17 8:40:27 PM
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Look, I don't want to argue it again, I'll respect your opinion and individuality, and I like the game a lot, so by all means tell me what you see it has that is better, or what PM has that is worse?

Is it just you hate Bowser as the main villain again. I'll even take that.
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LeonhartFour
12/18/17 8:40:46 PM
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MysticBrohan
12/18/17 8:41:01 PM
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super paper mario > both
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UInstinctGogeta
12/18/17 8:41:42 PM
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MysticBrohan posted...
super paper mario > both


This I'm more apt to argue since it killed the series...
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ninkendo
12/18/17 8:42:39 PM
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xp1337
12/18/17 8:45:48 PM
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Glitz Pit
Rawk Hawk
Doopliss (mainly his battle theme)
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pyresword
12/18/17 8:55:37 PM
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xp1337 posted...
Glitz Pit

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Great_Paul
12/18/17 8:56:27 PM
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xp1337 posted...
Glitz Pit
Rawk Hawk
Doopliss (mainly his battle theme)


As well as Pennington
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LordoftheMorons
12/18/17 8:57:39 PM
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It feels weird agreeing with MWC
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DeepsPraw
12/18/17 8:59:37 PM
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higher-fidelity graphics
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UInstinctGogeta
12/18/17 9:00:27 PM
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DeepsPraw posted...
higher-fidelity graphics


Does not make a better game. Especially by default.
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VeryInsane
12/18/17 9:02:03 PM
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Better dialogue and setting/party members
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DeepsPraw
12/18/17 9:05:11 PM
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UInstinctGogeta posted...
DeepsPraw posted...
higher-fidelity graphics


Does not make a better game. Especially by default.


Paper Mario 1 is better, but graphics is a definitive thing that TTYD has over it
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MysticBrohan
12/18/17 9:11:29 PM
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super paper mario is criminally underrated. its a phenomenal game that never got the recognition it deserved because it strayed away from the formula. sorry you dont get another by the books turn based rpg. the 2d to 3d system is innovative, clever, and most importantly fun. basic movement and exploration become fresh and exciting. it keeps that patented paper mario charm and personality, just with different gameplay mechanics. the characters are all fun and interesting, and the storyline is the best in the series. the hate this game gets is completely unwarranted.
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Dooplissss
12/18/17 9:16:39 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
Because it's better in pretty much every way.

ninkendo posted...
Thousand Year Door is the bestest

xp1337 posted...
Glitz Pit
Rawk Hawk
Doopliss (mainly his battle theme)

Great_Paul posted...
xp1337 posted...
Glitz Pit
Rawk Hawk
Doopliss (mainly his battle theme)


As well as Pennington

VeryInsane posted...
Better dialogue and setting/party members


all of these
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UInstinctGogeta
12/18/17 9:19:31 PM
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MysticBrohan posted...
super paper mario is criminally underrated. its a phenomenal game that never got the recognition it deserved because it strayed away from the formula. sorry you dont get another by the books turn based rpg. the 2d to 3d system is innovative, clever, and most importantly fun. basic movement and exploration become fresh and exciting. it keeps that patented paper mario charm and personality, just with different gameplay mechanics. the characters are all fun and interesting, and the storyline is the best in the series. the hate this game gets is completely unwarranted.


It gets hate cause it killed the series...
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pyresword
12/18/17 9:19:53 PM
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I don't think Super Paper Mario is as good as the first two, but it's still a great game in it's own right imo.
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LeonhartFour
12/18/17 9:20:06 PM
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The series isn't dead though. It just sucks now. Super Paper Mario didn't suck.
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VeryInsane
12/18/17 9:22:51 PM
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SPM is still better than 3 of the 5 M+L games (I assume SS Remake is the same)
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MysticBrohan
12/18/17 9:24:18 PM
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UInstinctGogeta posted...
MysticBrohan posted...
super paper mario is criminally underrated. its a phenomenal game that never got the recognition it deserved because it strayed away from the formula. sorry you dont get another by the books turn based rpg. the 2d to 3d system is innovative, clever, and most importantly fun. basic movement and exploration become fresh and exciting. it keeps that patented paper mario charm and personality, just with different gameplay mechanics. the characters are all fun and interesting, and the storyline is the best in the series. the hate this game gets is completely unwarranted.


It gets hate cause it killed the series...

what does that even mean? sticker star being garbage has nothing to do with super paper mario
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UInstinctGogeta
12/18/17 9:26:04 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
The series isn't dead though. It just sucks now. Super Paper Mario didn't suck.


It's dead now. I can't see them coming with another after Colour Splash was a commercial failure.
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LeonhartFour
12/18/17 9:27:09 PM
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UInstinctGogeta
12/18/17 9:31:58 PM
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VeryInsane posted...
SPM is still better than 3 of the 5 M+L games (I assume SS Remake is the same)


I don't know. I'd say PiT is pretty even with SPM at worst.
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UInstinctGogeta
12/18/17 9:34:53 PM
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MysticBrohan posted...
UInstinctGogeta posted...
MysticBrohan posted...
super paper mario is criminally underrated. its a phenomenal game that never got the recognition it deserved because it strayed away from the formula. sorry you dont get another by the books turn based rpg. the 2d to 3d system is innovative, clever, and most importantly fun. basic movement and exploration become fresh and exciting. it keeps that patented paper mario charm and personality, just with different gameplay mechanics. the characters are all fun and interesting, and the storyline is the best in the series. the hate this game gets is completely unwarranted.


It gets hate cause it killed the series...

what does that even mean? sticker star being garbage has nothing to do with super paper mario


If they didn't go away from RPG to dumb gimmicks (which started with Super) every game the series wouldn't be trash. Yes Super itself was ok, but it started the gimmick trash with its 2d to 3D switch.
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Zigzagoon
12/18/17 9:36:55 PM
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MysticBrohan
12/18/17 9:43:05 PM
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why cant every game just be final fantasy 7 smh
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UInstinctGogeta
12/18/17 9:51:18 PM
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MysticBrohan posted...
why cant every game just be final fantasy 7 smh


I have like 20 RPGs in my top 50 games....

I think FF VII and FF IX are the ONLY games that have the same battle system.

CT is different
SMRPG is different
Paper Mario is different
X is different
Tactics is different
Mana is different....

You get the point.
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Mewtwo59
12/18/17 9:55:25 PM
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Super Paper Mario was a perfectly fine game that gets way too much hate because it's not a turn based RPG like the first two. Now, it wasn't as good as the first two games, but it was much better than Sticker Star.
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DeepsPraw
12/18/17 9:57:55 PM
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It's not the gameplay that turns me off SPM, it's the gross angular character and world designs. It looks like trash
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MysticBrohan
12/18/17 9:59:26 PM
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turn-based rpgs are stale
long live innovation
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MysticBrohan
12/18/17 10:00:24 PM
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DeepsPraw posted...
It's not the gameplay that turns me off SPM, it's the gross angular character and world designs. It looks like trash

i guess thats fair, but i actually really like the art style
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UInstinctGogeta
12/18/17 10:01:41 PM
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DeepsPraw posted...
It's not the gameplay that turns me off SPM, it's the gross angular character and world designs. It looks like trash


Yes
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Kamekguy
12/18/17 10:17:56 PM
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TTYD is a better role-playing game
Paper Mario is a better Mario game
SMRPG is great at both but does not have the given highs of either in a given direction
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-hotdogturtle--
12/18/17 11:33:18 PM
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I have nothing against TTYD, it's still a great game and a perfectly fine sequel, but I still prefer the contents of 64. Like the locations, the game progression, the partners, all that stuff, in a direct comparison between the two I like most of the individual elements in 64 better than TTYD.
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MrSmartGuy
12/18/17 11:39:03 PM
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TTYD is a better game until about chapter 5, when for some reason, it turns into Backtracking: The Game. I replayed it recently, fully expecting it to surprise me and remind me why it was better than the original, but by the end, I was just really sick of it, which was kinda jarring.
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LeonhartFour
12/18/17 11:41:28 PM
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MrSmartGuy posted...
TTYD is a better game until about chapter 5, when for some reason, it turns into Backtracking: The Game.


No, that definitely happened in Chapter 4 more than anywhere else.
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UInstinctVegeta
12/18/17 11:42:19 PM
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MrSmartGuy posted...
TTYD is a better game until about chapter 5, when for some reason, it turns into Backtracking: The Game. I replayed it recently, fully expecting it to surprise me and remind me why it was better than the original, but by the end, I was just really sick of it, which was kinda jarring.


This is me too. There is so much backtracking and chapter 7 is literal trash.... it's a god damn amazing game. It really is, I just like PM more
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