Current Events > people celebrating tax cuts ....realize taxes pay for stuff right?

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Right?
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Socialism pays for stuff
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Yeah stuff like abortion and obamacare, fuck datttt
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people yearning for higher taxes... realize people can make better decisions with their own money than the government right?
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Taxes are bad!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chMCU5VSuqw
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Yep. Trump was just talking the other day about fixing our infrastructure? Where will that money come from?
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You know what else pays for stuff? My money.

The fact that taxes are the price of civilization is not the point here TC. We have been told for over 30 years now that taxes are bad, government is bad, and greed is good. What do you really expect most people to think?

Some people may have laughed at Margaret Thatcher at the time when she was saying that 'there is no alternative' but 30 years later that's become true enough. How many of us could even think of an alternative to the current system we have now and a way to get to it?

Easy they are gonna fuck the poor to do it

Cutting

social security
medicare
chips
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DifferentialEquation posted...

people yearning for higher taxes... realize people can make better decisions with their own money than the government right?

Lol no they can't

You think those people are going to pay for schools, defense, infrastructure, etc on their own?
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Squall28 posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

people yearning for higher taxes... realize people can make better decisions with their own money than the government right?

Lol no they can't

You think those people are going to pay for schools, defense, infrastructure, etc on their own?

Again, with the narrative we have been fed for over a generation now what else do you expect people to think?

Squall28 posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

people yearning for higher taxes... realize people can make better decisions with their own money than the government right?

Lol no they can't

You think those people are going to pay for schools, defense, infrastructure, etc on their own?

Randists think everything should be privatized and there should be no government or taxes
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Yeah it pays for stuff like a failing SS system

I'll just keep more of my money, thanks.
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ZombiePelican posted...

Squall28 posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

people yearning for higher taxes... realize people can make better decisions with their own money than the government right?

Lol no they can't

You think those people are going to pay for schools, defense, infrastructure, etc on their own?

Randists think everything should be privatized and there should be no government or taxes

I don't want to get rid of government. And I don't want to get rid of taxes completely either. I just think there's too much government and there's too many people that want to the government to handle everything.
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DifferentialEquation posted...

people yearning for higher taxes... realize people can make better decisions with their own money than the government right?

Well, not the ones going to Rent-A-Center and spending welfare money on cigarettes...
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Having money is great and yes you should save the money you have. With luck people will save money until 2025 when suddenly they are hit with a tax increase due to this bill. Of course by then maybe a democrat will be in office so the republicans can blame him for the increase.

I hope this tax bill succeeds. I hope that it results in pay increases for everyone, more jobs, and free puppies like Trump claims.
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I'd rather my money be used to pay for my own stuff instead of somebody else's stuff.
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realistically it'll probably be fully repealed in early 2021
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Taxes pay for garbage stuff.

Abortions
Tearing down perfectly good highways to spend months repaving them
Passing legislation against majority interests

I'm legit more happy that the govenrment will have less revenue than that I will have more.
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From what I understand, taxes don't pay for government spending; the creation of money does. Taxes primarily suck money out of the economy to prevent inflation.

Can anyone more familiar with economics (e.g. Darkman) confirm?

luigi13579 posted...

From what I understand, taxes don't pay for government spending; the creation of money does. Taxes just suck money out of the economy to prevent inflation.

...no

your understanding is entirely wrong

government spending is paid for by a combination of taxes and the sale of treasury bonds
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Darkman124 posted...

realistically it'll probably be fully repealed in early 2021

Why would Trump do that early in his second term?
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i sincerely hope every one of you lot who is happy with these cuts are prepared (and happy) to support your parents in their twilight years because their SS and Medicare is going to get slashed. just be consistent in your beliefs and don't be upset when gutting these programs end up costing you money later in life.
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DevsBro posted...

Tearing down perfectly good highways to spend months repaving them

roads experience wear and tear and need repaved every so often. i dont know what else you'd expect to happen ....
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

i sincerely hope every one of you lot who is happy with these cuts are prepared (and happy) to support your parents in their twilight years because their SS and Medicare is going to get slashed. just be consistent in your beliefs and don't be upset when gutting these programs end up costing you money later in life.

unlikely. lame duck congress rarely gets to do much.
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

i sincerely hope every one of you lot who is happy with these cuts are prepared (and happy) to support your parents in their twilight years because their SS and Medicare is going to get slashed. just be consistent in your beliefs and don't be upset when gutting these programs end up costing you money later in life.

My parents made good choices and are well invested. Dad has a pension and a 401K that will net him 100k per year after retirement without drawing on principal. People in his industry are often paid a premium above market rate in addition to the pension to come out of retirement.

C7D posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

i sincerely hope every one of you lot who is happy with these cuts are prepared (and happy) to support your parents in their twilight years because their SS and Medicare is going to get slashed. just be consistent in your beliefs and don't be upset when gutting these programs end up costing you money later in life.

My parents made good choices and are well invested. Dad has a pension and a 401K that will net him 100k per year after retirement without drawing on principal. People in his industry are often paid a premium above market rate in addition to the pension to come out of retirement.

that's awesome and i hope it works out for them and you.

just consider that one significant health care issue, like cancer, can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, or more. their entire retirement, and your inheritance, can vanish in a short time if something goes wrong. health care costs is the #1 factor leading to bankruptcies in this country and i only expect it to worsen if these social safety nets are stripped away.

i fully admit that i am speculating here and there's no actual evidence that this will happen. but either the GOP leaves a 1.5 trillion dollar hole in the deficit, or they cut these programs. either way, i fear the long term effect of these tax cuts.
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

DevsBro posted...

Tearing down perfectly good highways to spend months repaving them

roads experience wear and tear and need repaved every so often. i dont know what else you'd expect to happen ....

If they repaved the worn and torn ones, I'd be ok with it. They don't. They repave the ones that are still perfectly good, which is what I said.
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

i fully admit that i am speculating here and there's no actual evidence that this will happen. but either the GOP leaves a 1.5 trillion dollar hole in the deficit, or they cut these programs. either way, i fear the long term effect of these tax cuts.

they will leave the hole, and use the hole as an argument against any future programs until dems remove the tax cuts.
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

i sincerely hope every one of you lot who is happy with these cuts are prepared (and happy) to support your parents in their twilight years because their SS and Medicare is going to get slashed. just be consistent in your beliefs and don't be upset when gutting these programs end up costing you money later in life.

*shrugs*
If your parents lived life as if they were never going to get old, that's their choice.

I only have one of the four on SS.
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

C7D posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

i sincerely hope every one of you lot who is happy with these cuts are prepared (and happy) to support your parents in their twilight years because their SS and Medicare is going to get slashed. just be consistent in your beliefs and don't be upset when gutting these programs end up costing you money later in life.

My parents made good choices and are well invested. Dad has a pension and a 401K that will net him 100k per year after retirement without drawing on principal. People in his industry are often paid a premium above market rate in addition to the pension to come out of retirement.

that's awesome and i hope it works out for them and you.

just consider that one significant health care issue, like cancer, can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, or more. their entire retirement, and your inheritance, can vanish in a short time if something goes wrong. health care costs is the #1 factor leading to bankruptcies in this country and i only expect it to worsen if these social safety nets are stripped away.

i fully admit that i am speculating here and there's no actual evidence that this will happen. but either the GOP leaves a 1.5 trillion dollar hole in the deficit, or they cut these programs. either way, i fear the long term effect of these tax cuts.

He wouldn't accept an inheritance anyway. I mean, it isn't like HE worked for any of that income. That is just an evil redistribution of wealth. And not like he needs the money anyway. If he is poor, well then, that is due to his own poor life choices and he should have bootstrapped himself up instead of hoping for handouts.
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