Board 8 > Has Superman ever escaped a Black hole?

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ChampionCloud
12/24/17 6:36:44 PM
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Topic?
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pjbasis
12/24/17 6:37:17 PM
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scarletspeed7
12/24/17 6:38:07 PM
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ChampionCloud posted...
Topic?

Yes. He trapped a Sun-Eater in one and left without any real fanfare. He also kept a baby Sun-Eater in his Fortress at one point and used an anvil he made from black holes to splinter pieces of a sun to feed to it.
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GranzonEx
12/24/17 6:46:10 PM
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yes and he would kill Goku with a fart because Goku can't even hope to put a scratch on Superman
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ChampionCloud
12/24/17 6:54:16 PM
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GranzonEx posted...
yes and he would kill Goku with a fart because Goku can't even hope to put a scratch on Superman


Super Man gets trashed by literally every character from U7 in the ToP.

His best current hope of beating anyone in DB of import is Yamcha....
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scarletspeed7
12/24/17 6:55:47 PM
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ChampionCloud posted...
Super Man

When did this become about the new Chinese character and not the original Superman who has a faster reaction time than the Flash?
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pjbasis
12/24/17 6:55:47 PM
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What if all of Superman's known abilities are a mere fraction of a percent of his potential?
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NFUN
12/24/17 7:22:12 PM
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Did he teleport out of the black hole, because if not, that's probably the most impossible thing he's ever done.
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scarletspeed7
12/24/17 7:25:15 PM
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No i think that would be when he whistled the multiverse into existence.
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GranzonEx
12/24/17 7:27:17 PM
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imagine if Superman actually trained for a day in his life
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ChampionCloud
12/24/17 7:30:06 PM
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NFUN posted...
Did he teleport out of the black hole, because if not, that's probably the most impossible thing he's ever done.


Goku tanked being in one in base and then fired a Kamehameha out of it eliminating yet another Universe from the ToP.
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BK_Sheikah00
12/24/17 7:30:32 PM
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What is MWC's stance on Link vs Cloud?
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Team Rocket Elite
12/24/17 7:31:46 PM
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GranzonEx posted...
imagine if Superman actually trained for a day in his life


So we get Golden Superman?
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ChampionCloud
12/24/17 7:32:27 PM
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BK_Sheikah00 posted...
What is MWC's stance on Link vs Cloud?


How is Link equipped?

Cause there are a few items I doubt even Cloud would be able to overcome.
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most_games_r_ok
12/24/17 7:35:12 PM
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Has Superman ever escaped a Black hole?

Yes

He even held one.
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NFUN
12/24/17 7:35:52 PM
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scarletspeed7 posted...
No i think that would be when he whistled the multiverse into existence.

Eh. You'll have to get LotM to be sure (or ask me again in a year), but I've heard that past the Schwarzchild radius, there are no paths in space-time that lead away from the black hole.

Light moves at a constant speed in all reference frames, but the escape velocity of another body refers to the speed needed to escape the body from the surface. If light always moves at the same velocity, it should move at c near the center and at the edge. This implies that space-time itself must be curved to the point of no escape. Or something.

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GranzonEx
12/24/17 7:36:44 PM
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
GranzonEx posted...
imagine if Superman actually trained for a day in his life


So we get Golden Superman?

we need this to happen
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GranzonEx
12/24/17 7:40:18 PM
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btw MWC shouldn't Goku's name be Sun Wukong

like Mirai no Torankusu
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LapisLazuli
12/24/17 7:42:12 PM
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Glad MWC is so happy about good guy Goku killing Trillions to satiate his lust for battle.
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pjbasis
12/24/17 7:45:45 PM
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GranzonEx posted...
imagine if Superman actually trained for a day in his life


Perfect.

DB Super is such a disgrace
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Airship_Canon
12/24/17 7:53:32 PM
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NFUN posted...
scarletspeed7 posted...
No i think that would be when he whistled the multiverse into existence.

Eh. You'll have to get LotM to be sure (or ask me again in a year), but I've heard that past the Schwarzchild radius, there are no paths in space-time that lead away from the black hole.

Light moves at a constant speed in all reference frames, but the escape velocity of another body refers to the speed needed to escape the body from the surface. If light always moves at the same velocity, it should move at c near the center and at the edge. This implies that space-time itself must be curved to the point of no escape. Or something.

@LordoftheMorons

But then someone completely different shows up with a In a Nutshell video anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-P5IFTqB98

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scarletspeed7
12/24/17 8:02:12 PM
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I mean, Superman by whistling the multiverse into existence is whistling into existence a reality where more versions of him escape black holes, so I would argue that's more impressive.
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ChampionCloud
12/24/17 8:05:45 PM
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GranzonEx posted...
btw MWC shouldn't Goku's name be Sun Wukong

like Mirai no Torankusu


No. his Chinese name sure. But it's a Japanese anime so Son Goku/Son Goku is correct.
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BK_Sheikah00
12/24/17 8:06:55 PM
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The Hero of Time
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ChampionCloud
12/24/17 8:07:51 PM
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LapisLazuli posted...
Glad MWC is so happy about good guy Goku killing Trillions to satiate his lust for battle.


Clearly haven't seen my posts on this.

Goku is an evil asshole sociopath in Super....
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ChampionCloud
12/24/17 8:17:55 PM
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BK_Sheikah00 posted...
The Hero of Time


If he drinks Romani Chateau HoT wins since he has Nayrus love and Farore's wind. And he'd have infinite of both. Without it Link would have to either dodge Bahamut Zero or Ultima or Comet etc, and hit him during the cooldown wirh either Din's fire killing him, or Megaton Hammer or Master Sword critically injuring him. If Cloud would use a Limit at anytime unless HoT had Nayru up I believe he'd be 100% dead.
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scarletspeed7
12/24/17 8:21:43 PM
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Actually, Goku couldn't even beat Zatanna. All she has to do is say "Elppa na si ukog."
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ChampionCloud
12/24/17 8:31:41 PM
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scarletspeed7 posted...
Actually, Goku couldn't even beat Zatanna. All she has to do is say "Elppa na si ukog."


Changing strong fighters in DB doesn't matter.

Goku would fucking kill Superman just as easily as an apple as he would a Saiyan.
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Jeff Zero
12/24/17 8:32:19 PM
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Jeff Zero
12/24/17 8:33:10 PM
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scarletspeed7
12/24/17 8:38:36 PM
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ChampionCloud posted...
Changing strong fighters in DB doesn't matter.

Goku would fucking kill Superman just as easily as an apple as he would a Saiyan.

He's not becoming a DBZ apple. He's becoming a DC Comics apple. You don't come back from that.
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MoogleKupo141
12/24/17 8:41:02 PM
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hey as long as we're talking about DBS

why is it always Frieze they're bringing back and not Cell? Cell was stronger than Frieza and he's in hell too, right? Why not bring him back instead?

or dodoria. Just bring back Dodoria because that would be funny.
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GranzonEx
12/24/17 8:42:04 PM
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I could see the Flash just vibrate a steel pipe into Goku's brain

or Batman unleash a targeted Saiyan virus
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Jeff Zero
12/24/17 8:42:36 PM
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GranzonEx posted...
I could see the Flash just vibrate a steel pipe into Goku's brain

or Batman unleash a targeted Saiyan virus


but can you see why kids love cinnamon toast crunch
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GranzonEx
12/24/17 8:43:11 PM
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Jeff Zero posted...
GranzonEx posted...
I could see the Flash just vibrate a steel pipe into Goku's brain

or Batman unleash a targeted Saiyan virus


but can you see why kids love cinnamon toast crunch

definitely not that stuff is awful
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Jeff Zero
12/24/17 8:43:27 PM
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ChampionCloud
12/24/17 8:44:56 PM
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MoogleKupo141 posted...
hey as long as we're talking about DBS

why is it always Frieze they're bringing back and not Cell? Cell was stronger than Frieza and he's in hell too, right? Why not bring him back instead?

or dodoria. Just bring back Dodoria because that would be funny.


The REAL reason is that they are lazy and don't want to animate his spots.

The "story" reason is probbaly that Cell has already been cleansed and reincarnated by now.

Frieza was so evil he wouldn't repent at all and therefore ever be cleansed..
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LeonhartFour
12/24/17 8:45:46 PM
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GranzonEx posted...
Jeff Zero posted...
GranzonEx posted...
I could see the Flash just vibrate a steel pipe into Goku's brain

or Batman unleash a targeted Saiyan virus


but can you see why kids love cinnamon toast crunch

definitely not that stuff is awful


Jeff Zero posted...
same


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also I request Steiner to boot MWC out of this topic
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GranzonEx
12/24/17 8:46:15 PM
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Jeff Zero posted...
same

inb4 Leon stocks his shelves full of that stuff the next time you visit
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ChampionCloud
12/24/17 8:46:19 PM
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scarletspeed7 posted...
ChampionCloud posted...
Changing strong fighters in DB doesn't matter.

Goku would fucking kill Superman just as easily as an apple as he would a Saiyan.

He's not becoming a DBZ apple. He's becoming a DC Comics apple. You don't come back from that.


It doesn't matter what he becomes.

Stentgth means you retain your power mind and characteristics.
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Jeff Zero
12/24/17 8:46:54 PM
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GranzonEx posted...
Jeff Zero posted...
same

inb4 Leon stocks his shelves full of that stuff the next time you visit


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Jeff Zero
12/24/17 8:47:26 PM
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yeah I don't even care that that didn't upload properly

this is a rebellion

I rebel
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LeonhartFour
12/24/17 8:48:08 PM
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I mean there's usually Cinnamon Toast Crunch in the house even when Jeff Zero is living there

he just eats Oops! All Berries instead
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scarletspeed7
12/24/17 8:51:04 PM
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ChampionCloud posted...
scarletspeed7 posted...
ChampionCloud posted...
Changing strong fighters in DB doesn't matter.

Goku would fucking kill Superman just as easily as an apple as he would a Saiyan.

He's not becoming a DBZ apple. He's becoming a DC Comics apple. You don't come back from that.


It doesn't matter what he becomes.

Stentgth means you retain your power mind and characteristics.

No, not in DC Comics. Magic always operates out of the laws of magic in its universe, and you are subject to those laws when that magic operates on you. In fact, DC Comics has confirmed that all magic (including Marvel's) takes a backseat to its own and is subject to the inherent laws of magic in DC.
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Jeff Zero
12/24/17 8:51:24 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
I mean there's usually Cinnamon Toast Crunch in the house even when Jeff Zero is living there

he just eats Oops! All Berries instead


I still don't buy that being a mistake
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LeonhartFour
12/24/17 8:54:54 PM
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Jeff Zero posted...
I still don't buy that being a mistake


YsZF1IK

do you buy this being a mistake
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ChampionCloud
12/24/17 8:55:33 PM
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scarletspeed7 posted...
ChampionCloud posted...
scarletspeed7 posted...
ChampionCloud posted...
Changing strong fighters in DB doesn't matter.

Goku would fucking kill Superman just as easily as an apple as he would a Saiyan.

He's not becoming a DBZ apple. He's becoming a DC Comics apple. You don't come back from that.


It doesn't matter what he becomes.

Stentgth means you retain your power mind and characteristics.

No, not in DC Comics. Magic always operates out of the laws of magic in its universe, and you are subject to those laws when that magic operates on you. In fact, DC Comics has confirmed that all magic (including Marvel's) takes a backseat to its own and is subject to the inherent laws of magic in DC.


The laws of the universe don't matter when strength makes it so you don't care about the laws of the universe. Being strong enough means you can just not care about space time, or what state you are in, or that you currently reside in a black hole, or magic or psychic powers, or someone taking over your mind and body.... NONE OF THAT MATTERS depending on your strength. So being a DC Apple means the same as any other Apple. And Goku as any Apple is still one hit killing Superman of anyone in DC or Marvel who isn't a literal level of the God of Christianity.
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GranzonEx
12/24/17 8:58:30 PM
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how is Goku going to punch someone that can move as fast as the Flash?
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ChampionCloud
12/24/17 9:06:37 PM
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GranzonEx posted...
how is Goku going to punch someone that can move as fast as the Flash?


Goku (and friends) are so much faster than the Flash.... lol
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scarletspeed7
12/24/17 9:30:05 PM
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ChampionCloud posted...
The laws of the universe don't matter when strength makes it so you don't care about the laws of the universe. Being strong enough means you can just not care about space time, or what state you are in, or that you currently reside in a black hole, or magic or psychic powers, or someone taking over your mind and body.... NONE OF THAT MATTERS depending on your strength. So being a DC Apple means the same as any other Apple. And Goku as any Apple is still one hit killing Superman of anyone in DC or Marvel who isn't a literal level of the God of Christianity.

Incorrect. The laws of the universe still dictact reality. Goku has no strength unless it's dictated so by the universe. The universe has to allow Goku to exist as a function of said universe. Goku's strength is beholden to the reality that spawned him. Goku exists in said reality because Cogito Ergo Sum applies in any and all situations. Goku exists, therefore he is part and parcel a piece of the universe. Strength doesn't matter in this situation. His body is comprised of the properties of the universe in which he exists. Magic is not a strength or reality-based function. Magic is the functional equivalent to the anti-matter of reality. It is the anti-reality, that is, the underside of reality. The dark matter of existence. It is the glue that binds reality. There are no semantics that you can present here that dismiss that functionality. Goku can't "power out" of his own existence. It would require his body to no longer be made of matter that was created in his universe. And since that will never be the case unless he is completely eradicated from existence, Goku is subject to magic as the DC Universe defines it - it is clear from the fact that Dragon Ball has crossed over with universes that have Kevin Bacon'd their way into the DC Universe. Once you've done that, you've admitted that you are a part of Hypertime and therefore subject to magic. There's no "Miyamoto or whoever the fuck created Dragon Ball never said that's canon" involved. Crossovers exist and therefore, canon or not, they are part of Hypertime. That is the definition of Hypertime. Any and all possibilities become part and parcel the subject of Hypertime in its exponential multiplicity of infinite reality. Magic binds all realities in Hypertime and Goku is therefore an apple if Zatanna says he's an apple.

Boom. Nailed it. Mic drop. Goku is an apple.
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