Current Events > C/D Jobs are still a form of slavery

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no, you get paid for them
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No?
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Turbam posted...

no, you get paid for them

Not really. All the money goes to rent, food and utilities. If you don't work you end up in the streets. It sounds like slavery to me because you are forced to work. Specially since 90% are living on minimum wage or close to it.

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nuclearratchet posted...

Turbam posted...

no, you get paid for them

Not really. All the money goes to rent, food and utilities. If you don't work you end up in the streets. It sounds like slavery to me because you are forced to work. Specially since 90% are living on minimum wage or close to it.

"Why, I can't just sit at home and play video games all day and have nice things handed to me on a silver platter! This is an outrage!"
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nuclearratchet posted...

Turbam posted...

no, you get paid for them

Not really. All the money goes to rent, food and utilities. If you don't work you end up in the streets. It sounds like slavery to me because you are forced to work. Specially since 90% are living on minimum wage or close to it.

Sounds like you should have done better in school. Maybe then you wouldn't have to work shit jobs for shit money.
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Turbam posted...

no, you get paid for them

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I love listening to tinfoils talk about "wage slavery"

They just want money handed to them for nothing
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No but automation is IMO.
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I remember thinking shit like this when I was 17
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nuclearratchet posted...

It sounds like slavery to me because you are forced to work.

No you aren't.

You have a choice in the matter.
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D, they're voluntary agreements.
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And lrn2polltopic
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nuclearratchet posted...

Not really. All the money goes to rent, food and utilities

Not true. Depends on how much you make and how much you spend on those particular things, which are wildly varying factors. I know some people who buy a LOT of entertainment shit while making like 70k a year and make it out just fine.
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omega cookie posted...

nuclearratchet posted...

Turbam posted...

no, you get paid for them

Not really. All the money goes to rent, food and utilities. If you don't work you end up in the streets. It sounds like slavery to me because you are forced to work. Specially since 90% are living on minimum wage or close to it.

Sounds like you should have done better in school. Maybe then you wouldn't have to work shit jobs for shit money.

Lol. I'm still in high school.

"High school kiddy thinks working is for suckers, more at 11"
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nuclearratchet posted...

omega cookie posted...

nuclearratchet posted...

Turbam posted...

no, you get paid for them

Not really. All the money goes to rent, food and utilities. If you don't work you end up in the streets. It sounds like slavery to me because you are forced to work. Specially since 90% are living on minimum wage or close to it.

Sounds like you should have done better in school. Maybe then you wouldn't have to work shit jobs for shit money.

Lol. I'm still in high school.

So how the f you're gonna say all the money goes to

Nvm
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nuclearratchet posted...

Not really. All the money goes to rent, food and utilities

Not true. Depends on how much you make and how much you spend on those particular things, which are wildly varying factors. I know some people who buy a LOT of entertainment shit while making like 70k a year and make it out just fine.

I make 55k a year living alone in a cheap area outside Minneapolis and I have never been hampered by money. I buy what I want, when I want. I'm taking a trip to Vegas next month.

Anyone who truly believes jobs are slavery is just using that as a defense to delude themselves into thinking that's why they're unemployed, when the reality is, they have no skills or knowledge worth paying for.
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As a multimillionaire, I can confirm. Jobs are a form of slavery.

And we're so good at brainwashing that the fools go home with their 60k/year salary an feel proud and accomplished.

Meanwhile I blow through that much every day for no damn reason.
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No. You get paid and you can leave any time you want.

Those are the two things that define slavery. Any other argument is pure, unadulterated fallacy.

Not slavery but the system in place kinda sucks. Work 50 hours a week for decent money, but no time to spend it, or work a job doing less hours but I'd basically be gutting my bank account at that point. Or don't work at all and just die I guess
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What is up with all of the fucking Communists that have been invading this place recently?
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I bet you're going to be one of those people who keeps a job they hate for 10 years, bitching to everyone within earshot about how horrible the job is and how horrible it makes life but for whatever reason never quitting said job and/or bettering yourself.

not inherently

wage slavery is very much a real thing though
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Yes.

There is something wrong with life when you need to go to college , trade skill, or be naturally gifted or else you live in a crappy house and live a poor lifestyle. There is something wrong with life when you need to work 40 hours a work or multiple jobs just to make end's meet.

PesticideDream posted...

I bet you're going to be one of those people who keeps a job they hate for 10 years, bitching to everyone within earshot about how horrible the job is and how horrible it makes life but for whatever reason never quitting said job and/or bettering yourself.

If someone has a crappy job they don't have the time or resources to better themselves. School costs time and money. If they are in a situation where they try to save money, but random inconveniences like car breaking down, family getting sick, or home repairs keeps them from having a lot of money.

Anisoptera posted...

Yes.

There is something wrong with life when you need to go to college , trade skill, or be naturally gifted or else you live in a crappy house and live a poor lifestyle. There is something wrong with life when you need to work 40 hours a work or multiple jobs just to make end's meet.

There's somethign wrong with life when you aren't just handed a great life on a silver platter and instead must contribute to society in order to succeed?

Fucking communist.
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Deny. I'm sick and tired of hearing Americans complain like this when making like $30k a year puts you in the top 1% globally.

Go see how people live in Indonesia and check your privilege.
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nuclearratchet posted...

Not really. All the money goes to rent, food and utilities.

Even if this were true, usually the people who you pay rent, food, and utilities to aren't the same as the people who pay you.
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Anisoptera posted...

Yes.

There is something wrong with life when you need to go to college , trade skill, or be naturally gifted or else you live in a crappy house and live a poor lifestyle. There is something wrong with life when you need to work 40 hours a work or multiple jobs just to make end's meet.

though it's true that the vast majority of jobs in the current system are shitty and exploitative, your qualms do not apply across the board
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Anisoptera posted...

There is something wrong with life when you need to work 40 hours a work .

Dude gtfo. The majority of the population worked in agriculture two centuries ago and worked from sun up to sun down with just enough down time to cook, eat, pray, and go to church.
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PolishCockatiel posted...

Anisoptera posted...

There is something wrong with life when you need to work 40 hours a work .

Dude gtfo. The majority of the population worked in agriculture two centuries ago and worked from sun up to sun down with just enough down time to cook, eat, pray, and go to church.

the existence of greater problems does not negate the validity of lesser problems
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You work 40+ hours a week and you only allowed a day off on Thanksgiving weekend and Christmas weekend and you are punished for wanting to take a day off on those holidays by having your hours cut.

If you wanna look into something that is actually like slavery, look into sharecropping in the Jim Crow era. Or going to a prison where it's mandated that you work...for a couple cents an hour. I do feel for the people out there who feel like they have to put in 12+ hour days 6-7 days a week just to make ends meet for the sake of their dependents (kids, spouse, etc.) and they don't have any means to get more education and be able to get a nicer job for comparable pay with less hours. If you're only putting in 40-50 hours of work a week though, you can have a very nice personal life still, but sometimes you might have to treat your personal life with the same hustle you do your work life. You gotta get it while you can - you'll be old before you know it.
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Anisoptera posted...

You work 40+ hours a week and you only allowed a day off on Thanksgiving weekend and Christmas weekend and you are punished for wanting to take a day off on those holidays by having your hours cut.

What kind of a job cuts your hours for that? Department stores?

If I use a sick day or request vacation I'm never penalized.
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You can't really have a personal life when you're working 40 hours a week. You're either too exhausted or need to catch up doing errands/chores you can't do on your work days.

Hoo boy CE took this bait Hella hard
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Anisoptera posted...

You can't really have a personal life when you're working 40 hours a week. You're either too exhausted or need to catch up doing errands/chores you can't do on your work days.

Yeah the social life aspect can be hard. I work second shift so running chores/errands is no issue, I just do them in the morning/afternoon. But it can be tough arranging hangouts and dates.
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Anisoptera posted...

You can't really have a personal life when you're working 40 hours a week.

Completely inaccurate lol

How many hours do you think there are in a week? 80?
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Anisoptera posted...

You can't really have a personal life when you're working 40 hours a week.

Completely inaccurate lol

How many hours do you think there are in a week? 80?

Then you get home, need to make dinner, wash dishes, shower, do laundry, and prepare your lunch for work. You also need an adequate amount of sleep.

Anisoptera posted...

You can't really have a personal life when you're working 40 hours a week. You're either too exhausted or need to catch up doing errands/chores you can't do on your work days.

If you're only working forty hours a week and you sleep eight hours per day you have eight spare hours per day Monday to Friday and you have sixteen spare hours on Saturday and Sunday. That's 72 hours per week you're awake and not working. WTF is it you can't accomplish in that much time?
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masticatingman posted...

If you wanna look into something that is actually like slavery, look into sharecropping in the Jim Crow era. Or going to a prison where it's mandated that you work...for a couple cents an hour. I do feel for the people out there who feel like they have to put in 12+ hour days 6-7 days a week just to make ends meet for the sake of their dependents (kids, spouse, etc.) and they don't have any means to get more education and be able to get a nicer job for comparable pay with less hours. If you're only putting in 40-50 hours of work a week though, you can have a very nice personal life still, but sometimes you might have to treat your personal life with the same hustle you do your work life. You gotta get it while you can - you'll be old before you know it.

averagejoel posted...

the existence of greater problems does not negate the validity of lesser problems

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Earning a living does not constitute a "problem."
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Get a load of this guy..
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Anisoptera posted...

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Anisoptera posted...

You can't really have a personal life when you're working 40 hours a week.

Completely inaccurate lol

How many hours do you think there are in a week? 80?

Then you get home, need to make dinner, wash dishes, shower, do laundry, and prepare your lunch for work. You also need an adequate amount of sleep.

Making dinner, washing dishes, showering, doing laundry and preparing for work are not particularly time-consuming tasks (such as grocery shopping and cleaning the house, things done on a weekly/bi-weekly basis rather than daily). You also don't do laundry every single day.

Nothing you're saying makes any sense. I don't even think you've ever lived on your own before let alone worked a full-time job.
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*coughing fit of laughter*
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