Board 8 > Hearthstone Discussion Topic: It Likes The Smell Of Dead Things

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I just lost to a Shaman on ladder. I'm uninstalling the game.
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I'm really disappointed in myself for not going with my gut on surrender. What a champ.
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I figured it was either him or Hoej since theyre in the same team

Picked the wrong one oops
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Picked Fr0zen because he was one of the few playing a control Mage when I looked at decklists. Looks like Ill get more than one pack for once.
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I think I'd rather lose games where I get to actually play the gimmick of my deck than win games where I don't. Went 5-3 with Egg Hunter trying to finish a Win 5 Hunter/Something quest and only drew two eggs across all eight games, one of which was silenced before I drew any way to proc it. Feels kind of bad, would have rather it took another five games if I could have actually made a dino horde.
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Is shaman a secret class?

speaking of secret classes. Faced a warrior on legend ladder. One guess who was playing it.
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Does Fibonacci still play? If so, that would be my guess.
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Camden posted...

Does Fibonacci still play? If so, that would be my guess.

lol yes
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Camden posted...

I think I'd rather lose games where I get to actually play the gimmick of my deck than win games where I don't. Went 5-3 with Egg Hunter trying to finish a Win 5 Hunter/Something quest and only drew two eggs across all eight games, one of which was silenced before I drew any way to proc it. Feels kind of bad, would have rather it took another five games if I could have actually made a dino horde.

Oh I know I made an moat lurker nzoth shaman a couple of months ago wueee the only goal was to punish big Druid and big priest. It lost to everything else horribly. And even then it was only like a 60% in the good matchups. But it gave me an excuse to play like ancestral spirit in standard.

But now Im try Harding only tier 1 decks
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That said I had much more fun playing it than any other deck really. Like even with like a 35% win rate
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after not playing hearthstone for like a month, man, you see some shit at rank 23
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apparently I was running some god awful rogue deck that can only win if I draw and play rattling rascal like 6-8 times using youthful brewmaster, zola, shadowstep, etc.

I think it's because zola is the only legendary I opened. anyway needless to say, looking at my quest information, I was trying to get 6 wins and I just gave up partway there. since returning I have been facing mostly rank 23 priests who could basically not beat anything except the deck I am using. oh and one of them was actually playing dragon soul.
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The Spell Hunters must all be at rank 9 because I faced 3 of them in a row after not seeing a single one all month. A double Deadly Shot turn was the only thing keeping me from going 3-0 against them.

Then directly after those games I played against Jade Druid 3 times in a row. Weird.
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Nothing like opening a Lorewalker Cho to reset your pity timer.

I don't even want to dust it in fear of opening another one next time. This might be the third time I've opened one now, I've learned my lesson.
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World Championship Finals are up!

Frozen vs Tom60229

Who you guys got?

USA! USA! USA!
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

USA! USA! USA!

I don't know which one that is.

I'll root for Tom because the 0 in his name is an actual 0 and not the letter O. That's some top shelf decision criteria.
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Camden posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

USA! USA! USA!

I don't know which one that is.

I'll root for Tom because the 0 in his name is an actual 0 and not the letter O. That's some top shelf decision criteria.

The Asian guy
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woooooooooooow

the reverse sweep!
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Crazy.

That premature confetti drop was hilarious though.
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Those first two matches were just crap. I felt so bad.
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I mean, Surrender won like 13 matches in a row, including the Spring Championship. I think he deserves to be hyped as pretty good.
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Had a win 5 Shaman/Warlock games quest yesterday, I won two but stopped because I had a 40 gold quest that would have finished on the next Warlock win, and I wanted to reroll it into a potential higher quest today. So I did, into one to win three games as Shaman, so I guess I'm playing Shaman instead of Warlock.

Three games later, I've come to the conclusion that Runespear is sneaky strong. It's too bad Shaman isn't any good right now because that thing pretty much won two of those three games by itself in situations where I was quite a bit behind.
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I got aluneth in a card pack from the event. Now I have 4 decks (Control Warlock, Secret Mage, Highlander Priest, and Tempo Rogue) that I can run. I can also run weapon rogue, hunter (kinda) and bad cubelock (I still dont have giants). But I think i'm at a spot now where it's time to horde gold for the next set.
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I didn't watch the video yet, but my choices would be Block, Auctioneer, Northshire and Doomguard. Auctioneer is the only card I personally don't like from those four, I play two of the other three frequently myself, but I'm a bit tired of all four of them.
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I can't even imagine the outrage there would be from Cubelock players who spent thousands of dust on epics and legendaries if they rotated Doomguard.
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I'm fine with all of the cards Kripp mentioned getting rotated out. Ice Block has always been my #1 pick so hopefully we at least get that.

I think Doomguard is fine.
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what cards did he pick?
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Wild Growth
Sorceror's Apprentice
Ice Block
Divine Favor
Gadgetzan Auctioneer
Sea Giant

Honorable Mention for Alexstrasza and Mind Control Tech
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Sea Giant does seem a little out of place.
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MCT is the most 'feels bad man' card on there imo
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My guess is Ice Block Inner Fire Auctioneer Knife Juggler and Coldlight Oracle
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I don't think any of non Auctioneer cards I listed are problems, don't think Doomguard needs a nerf at all, but I'd still like to see them go to wild. Even Auctioneer isn't a problem at the moment but it's only a matter of time before it becomes one again, and I'd rather not wait around for it to happen.
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I don't think of hall of fame as a 'ban' for problematic cards, it's more just a way to rotate things out so that we don't see the same strategies we've been seeing for the last 2+ years
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Just give Doomguard battlecry: charge instead of flat charge.
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I have quests to Win 5 as Druid and play Druid cards, so I built an aggro Druid to finish them as quick as possible. Playing this kind of deck actually makes me feel bad.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Just change the keyword itself so charge cant attack heroes that turn like Charged Devilsaur.

This cripples aggro so hard it's hilarious.
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In fairness the penalty for playing Doomguard rarely matters as you either cheat it out or generally play it when you have the game in hand by playing Doomguard. So it's kinda overpowered in that regard

Think the answers to cube are there (Silence and Weapon Removal), they just need to actually make the weapon classes viable so that tech can exist again

also maybe more silence/minion changing can be ok, they just don't have to be as cheap as owl was or as flexible as Keeper was
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I really don't think anything from Cubelock needs to be nerfed, but Lackey would be my choice if I had to choose something. My nerf wish list doesn't contain any cards from my HoF wish list.

Raza
Patches

That's it. Don't want to hear about April.

I would get personal enjoyment out of a Patches nerf, but they'll never do it. That cancer will continue to infest wild for the entire duration of the game.
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Wild is basically a dumping ground at this point

Call to Arms generating minibots, Reno Priest has far more tools and burst (thank spawn of shadows for that), Cubelock in Wild also has MalGanis and Voidcaller to bring even more craziness
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Is Raza the problem or is it DK Anduin?

Iv wanted shadow priest to work forever but the DK makes me NotLikeThis

I think trying to capitalize on Raza with stuff like Beardo or Garrison Commander is awesome and interesting, but the DK makes it just... too easy. They could have made interesting effects to do this without making it so absurd.
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ClyTheCool posted...

Is Raza the problem or is it DK Anduin?

I think they're both equally the problem in that deck, but Raza has the potential to be a problem in the future far more than Anduin does.
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Please don't take

my Doomguard

away
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Eh theyre a problem because of the combo with each other

Its like how Force of Nature and Savage Roar werent broken when separate, but they were broken when together
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So I'm playing control warlock versus quest rogue. This is a matchup I think I'm favored in due to like they have to get through like all my taunts.

Anyways he's like completing the quest really quickly and it's like "oh". So I'm on turn 6. I have dirty rat in my hand. He has 5 cards one of them is the boar he's been bouncing. I play rat and BOOM BOAR. I'm like "OMFG I WIN". I hellfire too and completely clear is board leaving me with like the rat and a voidlord. from a lackey i played the previous turn.

So next turn he's like sitting there and I'm like "just concede".

Nope he instead plays the boar he just top decks to finish the quest and then plays it. (He would proceed to play until like the 12th turn or so where eventually he just ran out of resources).
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